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Constructing a team of players who have been both Padres and Phillies

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Does new guy Freddy Galvis make the cut?

John Kruk prepares to bat Photo by Rick Stewart/Getty Images

The Padres’ trade with the Phillies for shortstop Freddy Galvis has been widely questioned, but I’m for it just because it gave me an excuse to drop the twenty-second edition of my 29-part series in which I construct full 25-man rosters consisting of guys who played for both the Padres and another given team. I start by using Baseball Reference's Multi-team Finder, then carve the pool down to a starting lineup, bench, rotation, and bullpen. For my criteria I look at how each player performed over his full career or at his peak, not necessarily how he did with either team in question. This time I got carried away and did something I hadn’t done before, which is put together a full coaching staff; I can only imagine this is one of very few team combinations where that is possible.

More Combined Teams: Padres/Red Sox Padres/Rays Padres/Mariners Padres/Dodgers Padres/Rangers Padres/Braves Padres/A's Padres/Mets Padres/Rockies Padres/White Sox Padres/Twins Padres/Royals Padres/Giants Padres/Indians Padres/Diamondbacks Padres/ Marlins Padres/ Brewers Padres/ Reds Padres/ Cubs Padres/ Tigers Padres/ Yankees

Starting lineup:

Benito Santiago Phillies

C — Benito Santiago - Bats R, 93 OPS+, 27.2 bWAR/ 20 seasons

Santiago had an early peak but stuck around forever, bouncing his way onto eight of these combined teams. I haven’t done the ones for the Padres/ Pirates or Padres/ Blue Jays yet, but he’s sure to be there just as he was Marlins, Cubs, Royals, Giants, and Reds ones. Best remembered wearing 09 with San Diego and Florida, Santiago also wore 10 (briefly during his September call-up in 1986), 9 (first few years in San Diego, Cubs), 18 (first stint with Reds, Phillies, Blue Jays), 6 (second stint with Reds), 33 (Giants), 30 (Royals), and 34 (Pirates).

John Kruk

1B — John Kruk - L, 134, 25.0/ 10

Kruk is basically a household name, yet still underrated. All the attention on his personality and appearance both during and after his playing days has obscured how ridiculously good he was between the lines.

Washington Nationals v Philadelphia Phillies Photo by Al Messerschmidt/Getty Images

2B — Dave Cash - R, 93, 25.4/ 12

Cash was overshadowed by a number of superstars during his career, spent mostly with both Pennsylvania teams, but did make three All-Star teams.

Dickie Thon poses for a portrait Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images

SS — Dickie Thon - R, 95, 23.9/ 15

Thon is one of baseball’s biggest what-ifs, along with Tony Conigliaro. While a brutal beaning to the face derailed his superstar trajectory, Thon was still a solid big leaguer for years thereafter.

NLDS Game 3: San Diego Padres v St. Louis Cardinals Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images

3B — Russell Branyan - L, 113, 11.4/ 14

Not particularly adroit at any defensive position, prime Branyan could still slug enough to make you look the other way at his subpar defense regardless which corner of the infield or outfield he was stationed.

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LF — Ron Gant - R, 112, 34.0/ 16

Gant mashed just about everywhere he went, and became a solid defender once the Braves moved him out of the infield. I almost penciled him in at second base so I could wedge another slugger in the lineup, but his defense there would have completely negated that. On a side note, I might be the only person who still has a Ron Gant Padres jersey.

CF — Tony Gonzalez - L, 114, 27.1/ 12

It’s borderline tragic that Gonzalez’s stellar career is all but forgotten. Not particularly outstanding in any one aspect of the game, he just quietly did everything well. His sustained peak coincided with his eight and a half years in Philadelphia, during which he put up OPS+ tallies of 124, 113, 134, 133, 108, 128, 105, 147, and 103.

RF — Sixto Lezcano - R, 124, 28.1/ 12

More than just a great name, Lezcano was like Gonzalez in that he never got his due acclaim because he never stood out in one particular area. He was at his best with Milwaukee where he put together several impressive seasons, peaking in 1979 when he hit .321/ .414/ .573, all of which were career highs, as were his 29 doubles, 28 home runs, 101 runs batted in, 84 runs, 77 walks, and cartoonish OPS+ of 164. It was one of his five full seasons with an OPS+ exceeding 130; he did it two other times with the Brewers (133 in 1977, and 135 in 1978), and once each with the Padres (145 in 1982) and Phillies (136 in 1984).

Bench:

Mark Parent

C — Mark Parent - Bats R, 71 OPS+, 1.8 bWAR/ 13 seasons

Clearly not much of a hitter, Parent was good enough behind the plate to stick around for parts of over a dozen seasons. However, he did manage to pop 53 homers in his 1,303 career at-bats — surpassing his 50 doubles and zero triples — with a high of 18 in 265 at-bats across 81 games in 1995.

Randy Ready swings at the pitch Photo by: Rick Stewart/Getty Images

2B/3B/LF — Randy Ready - R, 108, 10.9/ 13

It just wouldn’t be right to put John Kruk on a team without his best friend in the game; they played together with the Padres from 1986 until midway through ‘89, were traded together, then were teammates in Philadelphia through the 1991 season and again in 1994. Make no mistake, Ready wasn’t there just because of that in the way Jack Haley got to sit courtside for the Spurs and Bulls because it made Dennis Rodman happy; dude had game and could fill in at any of any of several positions without the team suffering much drop-off for it.

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SS/2B — Freddy Galvis - S, 78, 3.0/ 6

The newest Friar makes this combo squad less on his merits than on his competition’s lack thereof. That sounds a bit harsh, and I should emphasize that his glovework makes his career .245/ .287/ .372 line acceptable, but let me put it this way: Was he your first choice to be the Padres’ starting shortstop next season?

Shane Victorino portrait

OF — Shane Victorino - S, 102, 31.2/ 12

Here’s a fun fact for you: Did you know that Victorino quit switch-hitting during the 2013 season? He batted strictly right-handed his last two and a half seasons. I love stuff like that; I’m sure at least a few other players have done the same, but J.T. Snow is the only one who immediately pops in my mind. Of course I’m sure that there are people out there who already knew that about Victorino but weren’t aware that he played for the Padres. It was brief; 36 games in 2003 between being selected from the Dodgers in the Rule 5 draft and being returned in May. Two years later he was picked in the Rule 5 draft yet again, and that time he stuck around all season and seven more for the Phillies, during which time he made two All-Star teams, and won three of his four (actually deserved, unlike most) Gold Glove awards along with the first of his two World Series rings.

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OF — Oscar Gamble - L, 127, 23.0/ 17

More than just the farmer of the greatest ‘fro in baseball history, Gamble was outright scary for the bulk of the ‘70s - scary to the opposition when he had a bat in his hand, and just as terrifying for his own club when they put him in the outfield. He managed to compile negative defensive bWAR in every single season of his career (for a total of — brace yourself — -12.6), which is even more amazing when you consider he played nearly half of his games as DH. With that in mind, it’s safe to say that his role here would be primarily restricted to pinch-hitting.

Starting rotation:

Fernando Valenzuela...

Fernando Valenzuela - Throws L, 104 ERA+, 42.1 bWAR/ 17 seasons

Fernando was god-level for the bulk of his decade in Los Angeles, but much more mortal during his second act as a journeyman in the ‘90s. From 1990 through ‘97, he bounced from the Dodgers to the Angels to the Diablos Rojos del Mexico to the Orioles to the Phillies to the Padres to the Cardinals, spending longer than just one season only in San Diego.

Rick Wise - R, 101, 36.7/ 18

I feel like Rick Wise’s actual body of work gets overlooked because people remember him for one of two things. It’s either as the guy who hit two home runs and threw a no-hitter in the same game, or as the guy who got traded for Steve Carlton. One’s a cool bit of trivia, and the other is a bit unfair because just about anyone who has ever picked up a baseball is going to look bad in comparison to Steve Carlton. He put up a nice 3.69 ERA in a career that saw him make over 30 starts in 10 seasons, and his two-homer game was no fluke; he hit .195/ .228/ .308 with 21 doubles, five triples, and 15 homers in 668 at-bats.

Danny Jackson pitches

Danny Jackson - L, 100, 17.3/ 15

Jackson had a very inconsistent career, but when he was on, he was on. He finished second to Orel Hershiser in the 1988 Cy Young Award race, and came in sixth in 1994. As is so often the case, he was pitching on fumes by the time he got to San Diego. Part of the return from the trade that sent Fernando to St. Louis, Jackson wore Valenzuela’s number 34 for 13 games, during which time he went 1-7 with a 7.53 ERA, and that was all she wrote.

ROCKIES V PADRES

Andy Ashby - R, 99, 21.0/ 14

Ashby was a two-time Phillie as well as a two-time Padre. He started his career with a couple seasons on the shuttle between Philadelphia and Scranton, then returned for the first half of the 2000 season following his eight-year first run in San Diego. He called it a day after making two relief appearances for the 2004 Padres.

San Francisco Giants v San Diego Padres Photo by Denis Poroy/Getty Images

Aaron Harang - R, 97, 19.7/ 14

Hey, finally a guy who wasn’t completely washed by the time he came to the Padres. In this case it was Philadelphia who got his - uh, “swan song” doesn’t seem fitting here; it was more of a seagull song. To his credit, until the very end he was doing what he always did, which was going out there and soaking up innings; it’s just that by that point a lot more runs were being scored during those innings than his brief heyday with the Reds, or even his lone year with his hometown Friars.

Bullpen:

San Diego Padres v Colorado Rockies Photo by Doug Pensinger/Getty Images

Mike Adams - Throws R, 165 ERA+, 10.3 bWAR/ 10 seasons

Every other time I’ve built one of these combined teams, when it got to the bullpen, I’ve always listed the closer first, but in this case there’s no denying that setup man extraordinaire Mike Adams deserves top billing. He was outstanding elsewhere, but otherworldly with the Padres. Just obscene, video game on beginner mode, absurd numbers. Seriously, go stare at those numbers for a minute or two. Good grief.

Houston Astros v San Diego Padres Photo by Denis Poroy/Getty Images

Pat Neshek - R, 149, 10.3/ 11

I’d always been a fan of Pat Neshek during his days with the Twins, so I was pretty excited when he came to the Padres in 2011. It didn’t work out that well, but he turned a corner after that and has been one of baseball’s best relievers since then. One of my favorite moments of the last handful of seasons was when Minnesota-born former Twins pitcher Neshek was selected to the All-Star Game which was held at Target Field in Minneapolis. The reception he received was so great that how he did in the actual game itself is irrelevant. Next season Neshek will join Randy Ready and Andy Ashby as a two-time Phillie. You know how every July, fans of every team will say of a pending free agent on their team, “Trade him, get some prospects, then re-sign him in the offseason,” and it nearly never happens? Well, this time it did.

Larry Andersen

Larry Andersen - R, 121, 14.2/ 17

I just noticed that these little blurbs on each player have been getting progressively longer as I’ve been going on. So on that note, Larry Andersen was a really good reliever for a really long time, and was well-liked by his teammates from what I recall from reading a book about the ‘93 Phillies approximately 20 years ago.

Paul Quantrill

Paul Quantrill - R, 118, 18.1/ 14

You know what, now that I think about it, it’s been 18 years since I read that book. I remember that I read it when I had a broken kneecap, and that happened in late 1999. At that time, Paul Quantrill was between seasons with the Blue Jays amidst his long, high peak. His son Cal was four years old; now he’s one of the Padres’ top prospects after being taken with the eighth overall pick of the 2016 draft.

San Diego Padres Photo Day Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images

Joaquin Benoit - R, 116, 18.0/ 16

Benoit’s career has been as odd as it has been long. He started off with eight subpar seasons with the Rangers, missed all of 2009, then rolled off a run of seven teams in the last eight seasons, with impressive results in most stops, especiallyspecially San Diego. Last season was his worst since his days in Texas, but he was still better than the average reliever. Between that and the fact that he’s 40 years old, it’s not unlikely that he’ll have to sign a minor league deal with an invitation to Spring Training, but I’d be surprised if I didn’t see Joaquin Benoit pitching for some major league team next year.

Ed Vosberg #52

Ed Vosberg - L, 108, 2.0/ 10

Vosberg had a really long and interesting professional career, spanning from 1983 through 2002 and revived for one season in 2007. He spent parts of ten seasons -- 1986, 1990, 1994 through ‘97, and 1999 through 2002 — in the majors, but 1996 and ‘97 were his two lone years with no time in the minor leagues. He did quite well those two seasons and slivers of others, and at his best was a legitimate lefty-killer.

Mark Davis

Mark Davis - L, 89, 8.3/ 15

In the introduction to this post I noted, as I always do, that I choose players based on their full career or peak. Usually it’s the full body of work that wins me over, but for* every nine of those guys there’s one Mark Davis. Outside of his two all-star seasons, 1988 and ‘89, in the latter of which he won the Cy Young Award, Davis was largely useless. That’s over a decade of sheer mediocrity, but those two years don’t care about all that. If you think I’m attaching too much importance to those two seasons, consider this: At least I’m not the person who gave him a Hall of Fame vote.

*”What’s a ‘but for’?”
“For pooping, silly.”

Coaching staff:

Larry Bowa #10

Manager — Larry Bowa

I’ve always greatly disliked Bowa ever since I found out that, during his mercifully brief stretch as Padres manager, he was a ruthless bully to young players, especially rookie infielder Joey Cora. When Jack McKeon gave him the boot partway through the 1988 season, Bowa’s second at the Padres’ helm, he headed back to Philadelphia, where he spent his glory days. He coached there through 1996, returned after a few years away to manage from 2001 through 2004, and most recently completed his fourth stint with the Phillies, serving as bench coach from 2014 through last season.

Bench Coach — Bob Skinner

Skinner was never the Padres’ bench coach since that wasn’t a thing yet back in his day, but he was their hitting coach for two stretches, and managed the team for one game in 1977, between John McNamara getting fired and Alvin Dark getting the job. Prior to that he managed the Padres in 1967 and ‘68, when they were the Phillies’ AAA affiliate, and then skippered the big league Phillies for a little over a year, from June, 1968, until August, 1969.

Padres Media Day Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images

First Base Coach — Davey Lopes

Lopes was first base coach for the Padres for two separate stretches, first from 1995 — Bruce Bochy’s first season as manager — through 1999, at which time Lopes was hired to manage the Brewers. After he was fired by Milwaukee, he came back for the 2003 through 2005 seasons. Starting in 2007 he coached in Philadelphia for a few years before getting hired by the team with which he spent most of his playing career, the Dodgers.

Third Base Coach — Jim Davenport

Best known for his many years with the Giants as both a player and coach, Davenport coached third for the Padres in 1974 and ‘75, and for the Phillies in 1986 and ‘87.

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Hitting Coach — Matt Stairs

Stairs is the latest in a long line of former Padres players walking through the hitting coach revolving door. Last year was his first as a major league hitting coach, and he drew acclaim for the work he did with the young Phillies.

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Assistant Hitting Coach — Wally Joyner

Joyner was part of that line back in 2007 and 2008, and eventually wound up doing the same thing for the Phillies in 2013.

Johnny Podres...

Pitching Coach — Johnny Podres

One of my favorite things ever is that Johnny Podres pitched for the Padres. That was in 1969, their first season and his last. The team also gave him his first gig as a pitching coach in 1973; he served in the same capacity for the Phillies from 1991 through 1996.

Galen Cisco #43

Bullpen Coach — Galen Cisco

Nobody has been the bullpen coach for both teams, so I went with Cisco, who was the pitching coach for San Diego from 1985 through 1987, and for Philadelphia from 1997 through 2000. I almost went with late Padres bullpen coach Darrel Akerfelds who, although he never coached for the Phillies, did pitch for them during his playing days.

Organizational depth:

C — Humberto Quintero, Wil Nieves, Ronn Reynolds, Gary Bennett, Pat Corrales, Pete LaForest

IF — Tadahito Iguchi, Alex Arias, Alex Gonzalez, Desi Relaford, Bill Almon, Ronny Cedeno, Chase d’Arnaud, Cody Ransom, Wilson Valdez, Roberto Pena, Gary Sutherland

3B/C — Keith Moreland, Dave Roberts

OF — Ollie Brown, Jeff Francoeur, Ron Roenicke, Jay Johnstone, Jim Vatcher, Cedric Hunter

OF/1B — Matt Stairs, Bobby Tolan, Carmelo Martinez, Willie Montanez, John Mabry, Dane Iorg

OF/IF — Chris James, David Newhan, Derrel Thomas

SP — Chan Ho Park, Dick Selma, Randy Wolf, Jim Deshaies, Adam Eaton, Dave LaPoint, Kevin Correia, Rodrigo Lopez, Carlton Loewer, Sean O’Sullivan

RP — Chad Qualls, Heathcliff Slocumb, Chuck McElroy, Tim Worrell, Greg A. Harris, Sid Monge, Mike Maddux, Rudy Seanez, Clay Condrey, Gene Harris, Roger Mason, Jack Baldschun, Dave Leiper, Carlos Reyes, Tim Mauser, Dave Wehrmeister, Doug Nickle, Matt Whiteside, Joe Roa, Freddie Toliver, Lowell Palmer, Eddie Oropesa, Steve Montgomery, Ken Reynolds, Bill Laxton, Jerry Johnson, Drew Carpenter, Steve Fireovid, Jason Boyd, Tom Gorman