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Who are you not allowed to hate in baseball?

Being a baseball fan, I always figured I would be allowed to not only root for my team, but also root against anybody I want. To say that there's somebody in baseball that I'm not allowed to dislike seems a little bit fascist to me, but what do I know? Derek Jeter seems to be the name that people bring up as being immune to hatred, but heck... jbox and I hate him. Does that make us bad baseball fans?

Today's question and answer day apparently... Who would you say is un-hate-able? I'm interested to hear.

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Maddux
My first guy would've been Jeter because I think he's exactly what a baseball player should be, but I guess anyone in a Yankee uni is fair game.  I'm always surprised when people call him arrogant.  I've never seen it and the guy shows up every day with nothing on his mind other than winning.

So next I'd say Maddux.  Total professional, no attitude, tutors the young guys, picks up the tabs and wins games, so he's a great teammate.  Never throws at a guy for his own mistakes or shows up hitters, so I think other teams respect him.  Just does his job and is a good guy.  And I would've said that before he signed with the Pads.  

Of course, he's never peed on my leg, so...

 

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 11:29 AM PDT   0 recs

When he was with the Braves
I didn't like him much.  I didn't like how he and other Braves pitchers got the outside corners from umps.  Remember when they used to float something up there a foot off the plate?  

by jbox on Jul 3, 2007 11:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well yeah
But I didn't exactly get the impression he was paying the umps for that call.  And it's not like he bitches on the rare occasions he doesn't get it.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Can't believe you hate Maddux!
Hey Everyone!  jbox hates Mad Dog!!!  That's worse than Drama loving Penny.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 11:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I hated him
in the past tense.  I mean he was a Brave, a Cub and a Dodger.  What was there to like?

Once he became a Padre he became one of my favorites.

by jbox on Jul 3, 2007 12:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Whatever.
Maddux-hater.

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 12:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We'll see
how you react tonight when he gets that off the plate call.  

Can't believe you hate Maddux...

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And
I think you've officially jinxed his start this evening.  You and Jonny Dub are like two peas in a pod.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No-No
Remember when he had a no-hitter going into the ninth against the Pads.  Gwynn was at bat and hit a ball down the left field line towards the fence.  The left fielder had a glove on the ball and hit the fence at the same time.  The ball fell to the ground and Tony got a hit.  The ball should have been caught, but nonetheless Tony was awarded a hit.  Maddux was pissed!  Saying the Tony was given a hit because he was Tony.  He was a real baby about it all.  But I still like him.

by Jonny Dub on Jul 3, 2007 4:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Another Maddux Hater
Great to see you guys blasting Greg Maddux...especially on a day when he's starting. Nice.

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 4:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Doug Flutie, Jr.
And to a lesser extent, his Dad.

Are we limiting our responses to baseball players?  How about Jim Abbott?  How about any player with a physical disability? Sorry, David, diabetes doesn't count.

Wasn't Rick Ankiel retarded?

"At the end, excitement maintained its hysteria." - Jerry Coleman

by TheGrandHatching on Jul 3, 2007 11:31 AM PDT   0 recs

I think stick to baseball
And also to players in the game today.

by Dex on Jul 3, 2007 11:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i know a ton a people who dislike jeter
maddux is a good answer for this

by pads44 on Jul 3, 2007 11:33 AM PDT   0 recs

Derek Jeter
looks like a cross between The Rock and a muppet. I don't really have a problem with him.

Maddux is a good one, and I think Trevor would have to be on there. While the closers value is always up for debate, I can't see any reason to dislike him as an individual.

by osbug on Jul 3, 2007 11:34 AM PDT   0 recs

Hoffman
Great call - many of the same attributes as Maddux.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 11:39 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Funny story
Phil Nevin told a funny story about a rookie that mouthed off to Trevor (something about sandwiches?) a few years ago.

Within an hour, the kid's clothes were on fire.

by astralcube on Jul 3, 2007 2:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Milton, take note!
"You are an Idiot! I-D-O-U-T! Idiot!!"

by The Pickmaster on Jul 3, 2007 2:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Because we should name some non-Pads
Biggio would be a guy I'd find hard to hate.  Glavine maybe.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 11:43 AM PDT   0 recs

I hate Biggio
Move out the way of the ball. Get some clothes that fit, cheater.

by Dex on Jul 3, 2007 11:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

There is alot of them.
A lot of pitchers I think I can say that of. Hoffman, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltzy, Schilling.
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 11:45 AM PDT   0 recs

Schilling?
Schilling??
I am part of a team within a team. And the MVP of my team is named Kory.

by Dalton on Jul 3, 2007 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   2 recs

I thought it
but I wasn't gonna say anything.

by Demoira on Jul 3, 2007 11:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm on the fence about him
I HATE the Red Sox, but the whole bloody sock pitching with an injury fiasco, I'm not sure if its was made up or not, but if it was true, thats some real shit.
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 11:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't like Schilling
Talk about somebody high on a horse.

by Dex on Jul 3, 2007 11:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Woah!
It's easy to hate Schilling.  

Remember when he threw a little hissy fit when Ben Davis bunted and ruined his perfect game?  Bunting is allowed in baseball, we're trying to win a game not try and help your no hitter.  What a tool.

Plus it's annoying how he blogs.  I hate bloggers.

During 2004, such a drama queen about his stupid sock (which was faked).

by jbox on Jul 3, 2007 11:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Schilling?
That calls for an automatic five Jbux fine!

by osbug on Jul 3, 2007 11:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry guys
That was Wiggins with the Schilling thing. He said he was really into blood or something. Anway hes gone now. Sorry about that.
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 11:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Schilling!!???!!!
I just wanted to pile it on.

by jbox on Jul 3, 2007 11:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Schilling?
"At the end, excitement maintained its hysteria." - Jerry Coleman

by TheGrandHatching on Jul 3, 2007 11:50 AM PDT   0 recs

embarressing me like that
you should be ashamed. everyone is intitled to a mulligan. besides i just got done getting up at 5 am to take 2 Finals. shame on you for taking advantage of my fragile state
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 11:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

you all?
Schilling?
"At the end, excitement maintained its hysteria." - Jerry Coleman

by TheGrandHatching on Jul 3, 2007 11:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

whatever
class starting now...time to discuss the intricisies of virginia woolf's mrs dalloway. have fun making fun of me.
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 12:00 PM PDT   0 recs

I heard
Schilling loved Mrs. Dalloway.  Which is a horrible book, btw.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

woah.
watch it with mrs. dalloway.

schilling, yes, is worthless.

by goose1 on Jul 3, 2007 4:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

David Ortiz
At least for me.  You can't hate a guy who's caught in a rundown and then hugs the guy with the ball.

by Boy Howdy on Jul 3, 2007 12:04 PM PDT   0 recs

Ortiz
He's a big huggy bear. I know people who don't like him though.

by Dex on Jul 3, 2007 12:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mostly in New York.
"You are an Idiot! I-D-O-U-T! Idiot!!"

by The Pickmaster on Jul 3, 2007 1:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ortiz?
ha! that guy does the Boston Herald Crossword puzzle while the rest of the team plays in the field! much worse than schilling!
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 12:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Schilling!!??!!!
Can't believe you brought him up!

by jbox on Jul 3, 2007 12:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yah but
WG was right. mrs dalloway sucks ass.
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 12:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No one is worse than Schilling
Maybe Clemens.  Maybe Bonds.  

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ummm...?
Are you forgetting "porn-stache" that plays second for the Dodgers?

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 12:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, I totally forgot him
Thanks for the reminder.  Did you look at that picture in your wallet and it reminded you?:)

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

WG
You know it's Mia and Nomah.

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 12:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh right. Sorry.
I can never remember which Dodgers you are closest to.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brad Penny
He's just so great. He's starting in the All-Star game, you know.

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 12:12 PM PDT   0 recs

see guys
there are worse people in the world than me. because Drama is dead serious.
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 12:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You should be thanking me for saving your ass.
SCHILLING????

I will say this for Schilling: When I was still doing Scott and BR's show...Schilling was in AZ at the time and we got him as a guest. He came on and we just blew out the clock. We had him on for a little over 15 minutes (which is insane). Out of all the great interviews we had...he was one that really stood out. His answers were thoughtful, smart, funny...he says what he believes and he should really be commended for that. Sometimes, he slips up and says something stupid...I'd rather he do that than give us the list of Bull Durham answers.

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 12:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

thank you
i knew i could count on you, drama
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 12:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha!
And what about this:

see guys
there are worse people in the world than me. because Drama is dead serious.

VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Tue Jul 03, 2007 at 02:14:59 PM CDT

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

desparate times
call for desparate measures
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 12:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I am stunned
that Schilling would want to talk about himself.  Stunned.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You're gonna need a bigger boat.
http://nomaas.org/images/Maplecheddarshark3.gif
I am part of a team within a team. And the MVP of my team is named Kory.

by Dalton on Jul 3, 2007 12:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dave Roberts
Here's a guy that now plays for the Giants and I still love him. I didn't want to give him a crazy 3-year deal...but I love the guy.

by Drama on Jul 3, 2007 12:13 PM PDT   0 recs

You meant CURT Schilling, right?
The pitcher?

(and not German synthpop musician Peter Schilling)

I am part of a team within a team. And the MVP of my team is named Kory.

by Dalton on Jul 3, 2007 12:20 PM PDT   0 recs

Mike Lowell
he's the non-cheating lance armstrong of baseball!  some others:

ryan howard
jose reyes
jim thome
robinson cano

by obviousman on Jul 3, 2007 12:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Oh man...
How could I have forgotten Jim Thome?

HEY GUYS THIS IS JI

JIM THOME

by Boy Howdy on Jul 3, 2007 12:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Come on guys...
do you really think I would say Curt Schilling. I was talking about Chuck Schilling
VOTE YOUNG!

by sdsuaztec4 on Jul 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT   0 recs

Sean Casey!!
There's a reason he's called The Mayor.

I actually remember a poll of MLB players not too long ago that said he was the most well-liked player in all of baseball.

The poll wasn't even close.

by jpleeg2 on Jul 3, 2007 12:28 PM PDT   0 recs

Yeah
I think he had like 40-some percent, and then next guy on the list was Jim Thome, at about 7%.  It was a landslide

by Boy Howdy on Jul 3, 2007 12:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Julio fucking Franco
Born in 1958, Franco is 49 and will turn 50 this August.

He stole two bases this year.
He stole 6 and hit .273 with a pair of dingers last year.

He is Father Time himself. How can you hate this guy?

by Brad on Jul 3, 2007 12:34 PM PDT   0 recs

I dunno
Remember that time he signed the Declaration of Independence as "Ben Dover"?  I didn't think that was too classy.

by Boy Howdy on Jul 3, 2007 12:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh yeah
Couldn't hate him.  Would be like hating my grandpa.

by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 3, 2007 12:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

KEN GRIFFEY; el Junior

but griffey is a pretty good ambassador for the game and pretty much the greatest "almost" Padre of all time

Thanks Phil Nevin

I'd love to face this guy every time i come to the park....and go 0-3

by Dinosaur on Jul 3, 2007 12:42 PM PDT   0 recs

I'm gonna have to staunchly disagree
with this one. And I have a good story to back it up. Join me, if you will.

Back in the day, when the Padres used to play in Yuma for ST, my family and I would go every year. Several of my earliest baseball memories are frying under that heat and watching the Padres practice and play games in Yuma.

One particular day, my family and I were watching the Mariners practice. Junior, who was just starting to show flashes of his brilliance, was one of the Mariner's practicing on the field. I think I was between 6 and 8 (I'm 22 now by the way) and I was just enjoying being at the park with my parents. My dad pointed out Griffey to me and told me that his dad had played and that lots of people expected Jr. was gonna be a star. With that, my dad indicated that I should try to get his autograph.

As you all know, once the practices are over, the players typically hang out for a little bit and sign autographs. On this particular morning, there were very few spectators out for the practice, and I had practically nobody to contend with as Jr. exited the practice field. I walked towards Jr., and he bent over to tie his shoes. As he was bent over, I asked (and I will never forget this):

"Mr. Griffey Jr, can I please have your autograph."

Jr. finished tying his shoes, stood up, looked me square in the eyes, and walked away.

Since that day, Jr. has been dead to me and always will be. My entire family HATES him for this (as they all saw it happen). Incidentally, we attempted later on during our soujourn to get his autograph again, and Griffey was one of the only Mariners to scoff at the fans. There's no way Griffey is a guy that you can't hate. I'm not sure how he's matured, but when he was just getting started, the guy was one of the most arrogant and unaccessible players I've ever come across.

by Phantom on Jul 3, 2007 1:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Albert Pujols
And who the hell said Schilling???!!!
Christina

by Christina on Jul 3, 2007 1:38 PM PDT   0 recs

al pujols is easy to hate after the playoffs..
last year. Did you forget some of those comments he made about our beloved Padres not being so difficult to hit against? He is a jackass of the first degree that needs to just keep his mouth shut and let the media build his personality.

As far as Jeter, he plays like he is somebody that would "play for meal money." He truly looks like he is having a blast and would keep playing till his dad would start yelling to come inside.

"You are an Idiot! I-D-O-U-T! Idiot!!"

by The Pickmaster on Jul 3, 2007 1:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I did not hear that
about Pujols. Whatever. Scratch him then.
Christina

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