Dodger Fan doesn't care if you're pregnant. Dodger Fan just wants to throw.

by Dex on Apr 18, 2007 8:10 AM PDT in News Comment 25 comments

After our post earlier this week, I've been reading comments and even though I know that you shouldn't paint groups of people with a wide brush, it's becoming a feeling to me that going to Dodger Stadium and finding jerks is equivalent to going to the grocery store and finding food.

Even though we have stories of Dodger Fan threatening to pee on Padres Fan, I think this story by PadFanInLA takes the cake. A key snippet:

Before I could blink, four of these numbskulls were in our faces, yelling and threatening us. One of them was a woman, who approached and began attacking (punching) my wife. Did I mention that (1) my wife was 7 months pregnant (quite obviously!) and (2) my wife is a DODGER fan?!?!

Dodger Fan is like some kind of rabid animal. Just keep in mind that if you're in Chavez Ravine, Dodger Fan is willing to pee (and probably poop) on you, and, if given the opportunity, will attempt to attack the weaker members of your group and eat their young.

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I have a deep dislike for Dodger fans

I totally believe this story. of the 5-6 times I've been to Dodger stadium, the crazy fans always make it a lousy experience. I now know never to sit in the bleachers there.

by RBS on Apr 18, 2007 8:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Security at Dodger Stadium

seems to have no control and some of the fans are out of their minds.

by jbox on Apr 18, 2007 8:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Lack of security is huge

One thing about that infamous night at Petco last season when an entire section erupted into a Bar Brawl which never really stopped - security was everywhere. It took them a few innings since it was the entire freaking section that was dusting it up, but they did eventually restore order and escort a lot of people out. Also that night as I walked back to my car (with 2 fights breaking out around me as I did), there were cops all along the way and patrolling the parking areas. San Diego knows that when Raider...err..Dodger fans come to town, they better be ready with empty jail cells ;->

Christina

by Christina on Apr 18, 2007 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another story

Reading all these postings I thought I would share my first and only experience at the Ravine. A friend of mine (Dodger Fan) who I always enjoy taunting during the season in good spirit and vice versa attended a Dodger/Padre game in '04. My friend, being an experienced fan at Dodger Stadium suggested we steer clear of the pavilion for my health and well being and look for tickets in another section. We were fortunate to score some nice seats behind the plate in what I call upper field level.

All in all the experience during the game went well and for the most part Dodger fans around me were courtesy. The fact that the Padres lost that evening and never really threatened to take the lead might have helped. On the way back to the car that's when I encountered the other half. While no one "attacked" me a lot gum bumping was to be had. I thought the best tactic was to not acknowledge the comments and for the most part that worked. What I did find disturbing was a Dodger family piling into their car in preparation of leaving. After Dodger Dad gets the kids in the back seat he makes his way to the front door and proceeds to relieve himself behind the cover of the open driver side door. After a lengthy evacuation of the bladder he then enters the car and then begins discarding trash for the interior like he was a garbage truck at a local land fill. Finally he drives off making a wide u-turn and slows to toss several more items out the door. My friend and I found the whole episode to be quite disturbing especially given the presence of these young kids. We talked at length about Dodger fans and what he would call the recent decline of respectful fans and his being ashamed to call himself a Dodger fan. It is clear Dodger Dad is breeding disrespectful Dodger fans and the situation will probably only worsen for years to come. My advice is steer clear of the pavilion when attending Dodger games and don't lower yourself to their level when confronted by obnoxious Dodger fan. Go Padres!

by Peanuts and Beer on Apr 18, 2007 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Dodger Fan urinary habits

At least he didn't pee on your dad's toilet seat.

by RBS on Apr 18, 2007 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Padre security

is handled very, very well by Elite security. They also do the Charger games and just about every event at the Convention Center. I've met John and Gus Kontopuls (the brothers who run it) a few times and they're both quite classy and know how to manange a successful, professional business. It really shows in their employees and I've never once felt threatened at Petco/Qualcomm, even when the Raiders or Dodgers are in town.

by matto619 on Apr 18, 2007 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

A few words of advice...

Your Dodger fan has no regard for human life, not even his own. And for this reason, Padres fans, I want to impress upon you the need for extreme watchfulness. Dodger fan may come individually, or he may come in strength. He may even come in the uniform of our Padres, although not likely. But however he comes, we must stop him.

by TheGrandHatching on Apr 18, 2007 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

All these stories have made me never ever want to go to a game at Chavez Ravine.

I married Dodger Fan under condition of him becoming Padre Fan. It works, most of the time.

by Deb on Apr 18, 2007 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Crap. Remind me not to wear Padres gear...

when I finally make it to a Dodger game in Chavez Ravine.

In A.J. We Trust
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by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2007 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

my uncle

my uncle has been a dodgers season ticket holder for about 20 years. half of the time he goes and bring radio headphones so that he can listen to vin scully announcing the game, but a lot of a time he strikes up conversation with fans of the opposing team that are sitting around him so that he can get a feel for how they think their team will do and who they like. i've been to 3 games with him and this has worked out splendidly (his tickets are right by first base, about 5 rows from the field). cardinals fans are particularly fun to have a conversation with.

anyways, this year he passed on getting season tickets because as much fun as he has with the fans around his seats, there are still the assholes that crowd the rest of the stadium and often times wind up near his seat as well. he wrote a letter to the dodgers telling them that he would've been buying 2 tickets to every home game for the next 30 years if they made any effort to get rid of the thugs and assholes in the stadium.

now whenever i'm in san diego we catch a game down at Petco. much better environment. maybe i can change a lifetime dodger fan into a padres fan.

by John (obviousman) on Apr 18, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

a shame....

that baseball is not the class sport it use to be. Even Padre fans have their fair share of A-holes at time but Dodgers just seem to have more than others. Which seems to bring the worse out fans of other teams when you get the two together.

by Peanuts and Beer on Apr 18, 2007 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ditto

Maybe if all the major sports went back to making people wear suits and ties (men) and dresses with hats and gloves (ladies), maybe this crap wouldn't happen. It just seems like things were better back in the day when going to a sporting event was the wardrobe equivalent of going to church. They don't throw beers at worshippers in most of the churches I've been to.

by teemcee on Apr 18, 2007 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just an honest question. . .

Is it the same at other stadiums? I'm just wondering if any of you guys have had any other bad experiences at other stadiums. I've seen the Padres in at least half of the National League stadiums. Denver was the best by far, nice field as well. I had a really bad experience here in AZ at Bank One Ballpark one time and almost got arrested for it.

I think it was early in the season in 2001. I think we finished the season 32 games out of first place, but still enough ahead of the CLOROX to not be the cellar dwellers. Anyway, my company had season tickets above the bullpen in left field. I went alone as it was a weeknight and nobody else could go. I sat on the aisle wearing a Tony Gwynn jersey and was heckled the ENTIRE time by the guy across the aisle on my left. I was pretty quiet and intent on watching the game. I think Rickey Henderson was still playing left for us then and I couldn't keep my eyes off the girl who threw the warm up tosses with him between innings. Anyways, AZFan kept drinking beer after beer and was intent on us losing and them winning. I can't remember who it was that smacked one out, but he drove in three runs to win the game for us.

The guy was pissed but still managed to drunkenly shake my hand and say "good game." I was surprised by this but still managed to shake his hand with a smile and a nod. I turned to walk up the stairs and the same guy who cordially congratulated me, sucker punched me in the back of my head. Instincts kicked in and I turned around and nailed the guy in the face. The guy fell backwards and security was on me instantly. Unfortunately they didn't ask any questions from me or any witnesses. I was hauled off to the holding tank. The security guard was pretty pissed and told me to "sit tight until we find out if this guy wants to press charges or not." I couldn't get a word in that the guy hit me first and I acted in self defense.

After two hours of waiting in the holding tank by myself, they managed to sort out the truth from the intoxicated AZFan and the sober SDFan. The head of security came back and apologized and asked if I'd like to press charges against AZFan. I declined and just wanted to get out of there. The guy let me leave but got his final shot in by telling me, "You'd be better off next time if you didn't wear the uniform of opposing teams." I was appalled and couldn't believe that they obviously couldn't provide enough protection for fans and that they over-served this guy on the beer!

I know it's bad in LA, but I was just wondering if anyone's had any other bad experiences elsewhere. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

REMMIE

by Remmie on Apr 18, 2007 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Well.....

I haven't been to Chase field but I've been to several games at AT&T in SF. Never had any bad experiences, just a little friendly tauting but I've never seen a display of such vulgarity that you see at Dodger Stadium. Angels usually have well behaved fans but I've never worn the opposing teams colors in attendance.

by Peanuts and Beer on Apr 18, 2007 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmmm....BOB / Chase Field = Chavez Ravine East?

I had a not-so-pleasant experience at Chase Field LAST season. I took my sons to a Dbacks / Astros series (none of the AZ / SD games worked with my schedule...bummer) so we really weren't there to root for either team.

There was a drunken fool sitting right in front of us and he kept standing up during the game and booing the Dbacks players. Screaming at the top of his beer-soaked lungs and using all sorts of profanities, etc.

At one point, I tapped this numbskull on the shoulder and politely asked him to shut his trap when he then slurred, "What are you going to do about it?" I may be a girl but I was ready to open the can of whupa$$ on this clown.

At that point, his friend tries to calm him down and tells him to chill out. He sat back down. Then he started using his cell phone to view pornographic pictures which he was waving around so that ALL of the little kiddos in the vicinity could get a good look.

That was the last straw for me. Normally, I like to handle my own business but I went to security and explained the situation. They refused to go down and talk to the guy but stationed a couple people at the top of the stairs in our section.

About a half inning later, Drunken Yahoo stands up and starts screaming again. Some college dudes sitting one section over started throwing stuff at him. THEN security came down and removed Drunk Guy and College Frat Boys. By then it was like the 7th inning and the experience was pretty much ruined for all of us around this guy. Other people said they'd complained too.

I emailed and faxed Chase Field security but never received a response (no surprise there).

I've been to BOB / Chase many, many times since it's opened and that's the only negative experience I've had but it was enough for me to reconsider my travel plans this year.

It's gotten to the point that I would rather watch games in my own living room. That way, if someone gets out of line, I can just put 'em on restriction and send 'em to their room for the rest of the night. The only person who's gonna get drunk and sloppy is me and at least I'll just pass out on my couch without disturbing anyone else!

by teemcee on Apr 18, 2007 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again - all about security

Also, the ballpark ushers.
My 3 years in section 231, my seat neighbor and I were totally on asshole fan patrol :-) While the response was not always exactly what we wanted, at least there always WAS an usher right there and regular security patrols. A few times my complaints even got the drunken fool thrown out BEFORE any punches and/or beers were thrown.

Christina

by Christina on Apr 18, 2007 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's do the math

EQ 1. Pathetic loser + copious amounts of alcohol = malcontent ruining game for everybody else

And to go further....

EQ 2. (Pathetic loser + copious amounts of alcohol) - active security presence = brawl waiting to happen

Which leads to the corollary....

EQ 3. Concern about my safety and that of my guests = less sporting events enjoyed in person = that sucks

I'm not expecting everyone around me to clap politely at the good plays and say, "Aw shucks, that was unsatisfactory," when errors occur but could you just tone it down when in public, especially when there are kids around?

And I don't want to see alcohol banned at sporting events because it's usually just a small percentage of people who screw it up for everyone else. Can't we implement a system where you can't get a beer unless you bring a notarized affidavit from the people sitting within 50' of your seat authorizing their consent for the sale of said alcoholic beverage?

That might work. Or not.

by teemcee on Apr 18, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You got it!

Your equations are spot on.

Your solution is pretty funny :-) I think jbox was at least on to something by complaining to the team about the lack of security. Certainly the thugish, drunken ones know they can continue their behavior game after gmae if they are never reprimanded.

Christina

by Christina on Apr 18, 2007 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Other Places

I have been to other stadiums to watch the Padres and never had the experience I had at Dodger Stadium. But again, it all depends on where you sit at Dodger Stadium. The higher the price level the less trouble your gonna get, and avoid the bleachers at all cost, it is like a zoo out there. I have been to dodger stadium 5 times, including the bleachers 2 times, and never have I had it as bad as I did last Friday.

I was really getting pissed at the security, especially after that whole drink throwing incident. They really dont do much to ensure that every fan in the park is having a great time.

However, the atmosphere at Dodger Stadium was pretty amazing, the crowd was loud and very into every pitch, even out in the bleachers. The P.A. system cheers helped pump up the crowd during the perfect time, and every dodger fan (notice i only said dodger fan) was having a great time. Last year and so far the only game I went to this year I have really been upset about the crowd at petco park. Sure they aren't A-holes and jerks like in LA, but they just dont seem too into the game. I look around and everyone is just looking around the stadium and talking to each other. I feel like if you paused everything and asked everyone in one section what the count is, only about 40 percent would know it. I dont know if this is something about the city, or maybe its just that its a new stadium and there is so much to entertain, but in LA the crowd seemed a lot more into the game than anywhere i have been. The only time i saw the crowd go wild on opening day was when they had the get loud signs up on the scoreboard and even then they quited down after that sign stopped flashing, leaving it quiet for a crucial pitch or at bat. Dodger stadium was LOUD and crazy and intense, and i was actually envious of the atmosphere.

However...if getting that amazing atmoshphere means bringing in tons of assholes and jerks then I am perfectly fine with relaxed and friendly Petco Park.

threepeat?(never thought id be able to say that about the padres!)

by Peavyforprez08 on Apr 18, 2007 3:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Dodgers fans into the game?

I've been going to games at Dodger Stadium for years, and while it does get loud (something I miss about Qualcomm), I would have to disagree that it's because Dodgers fans are into the game. Usually the fans are at their loudest when the scoreboard is telling them to cheer. Plus they've always seemed to me to be more concerned with batting around beach balls, getting "the wave" going and leaving early enough to avoid too much traffic. Oh, and what's with chanting "Padres Suck" when the Padres are winning? If they suck and they're winning, what does that say about your Dodgers?

As far as unruly fans go, it's definitely getting worse. Whereas a decade ago I would get some occasional ribbing, now it's nonstop cursing, booing and threats when I wear my gear to Chavez Latrine. I've never been attacked, but I'm starting to feel like it's only a matter of time ...

by poisoneye on Apr 19, 2007 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anaheim Games

Disclaimer: I'm originally from Cleveland, and as such, live and die with the Indians. I root (experience?) for the Padres every game, unless the interleague brings these two teams together, then it's back to sporting my offensive Chief Wahoo hat.

I go to Angels Stadium usually once a year when the Tribe's in town. My best friend is from Orange County and, as such, is a die-hard Angels fan. Usually, there's many other Indians fans around us because they're in the same predicament as I am: Live in San Diego, almost never get to see the Tribe play live, so travel north to Anaheim and catch a game. As a result, there is plenty of jovial trash-talking taking place and overall a pleasant experience. The only time the trash-talking started raising my internal red flag was when copious amounts of alcohol were being imbued by Angels Fan and the Tribe was spanking their ass. Security there was prompt and removed him quickly and efficiently.

How does a 70% failure rate at the plate make for a superstar?

by Hershey on Apr 19, 2007 7:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Chicago vs. Cincinnati

I live in Indiana, so my only close by parks are Chicago and Cincinnati. I go to games in Cinci every year, because it's closer, and the fans are much more pleasant to be around. I last attended a Cubs/Padres game in 1996. I took my infant (3 months old) son to the game, and I proudly wore my Padres jersey. I was heckled quite a bit, bumped in the aisles, and had beer and popcorn thrown at me, all while holding an infant. Chicago people are jerks in general, and Cubs fans are worse. In Cincinnati, I usually end up in conversations about the relative merits of Padres players, and enjoy a little good-natured back and forth. I'll never go to a game in Chi-town again, unless it's the post-season, and then I won't be bringing the kids.

by Judge19 on Apr 19, 2007 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I've always worn my Padres gear at Wrigley and not once have I had a problem. In fact, it's usually quite the opposite. Most Cubs fans I've encountered seem to respect the fact that I would wear a Padres jersey in the "friendly confines". Of course, the lack of any substantial rivalry helps.

by TheGrandHatching on Apr 19, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A follow up story...

My story about us getting attacked at Dodger Stadium is without question the worst incident I've experienced there (although I agree with everyone else that it is getting worse and worse).

But I thought I'd share one more story with you guys. It didn't turn out bad, and it's kind of amusing.

This was several years ago (I can't remember exactly when, 2003?)...

I went to this game at Dodger Stadium with my buddy Todd, whom I grew up with in Chula Vista. He now lives in Temecula. He brought his son, Trevor (yes, you can guess how he got that name) with him. Trevor must have been about 6 or 7 then. All three of us were in Padre gear head to toe. (Jerseys, hats...)

So the three of us were sitting there taking in our Padres playing the Dodgers, and about 3 rows in front of us and one section over to the right are an obnoxious group of gang-banger-type Dodger fans. WAY more obnoxious than the rest of the standard-issue obnoxious Dodger fans. These guys are leading the "Padres suck" chants, and they really look like they are out to start some fights and kill some people.

So my buddy whispers something into his young son's ear. Little Trevor immediately goes down--by himself--to these cholos (my heart skips a beat and I'm holding my breath...) and goes up to the biggest shaved head dude and starts tugging at this guy's Dodger jersey sleeve. This huge dude turns and glares at little Trevor...

Trevor looks right up into this guy's eyes and screams "DODGERS SUCK!!!!!". The dude was totally speechless! A few seconds pass, and they all just completely crack up. Within a few moments, Todd is down there taking pictures of his kid with these gangster dudes, who are eating it up. They are posing with him, flashing gang signs, flipping off the camera (while good natured-ly laughing).

It was surreal. I didn't know whether to laugh or piss my pants. I have the pictures somewhere (you HAVE TO see them)--I'll post them when I find them.

My buddy Todd has big, brass balls, that's for sure. Or he's a terrible father... your call I guess!

by PadFanInLA on Apr 21, 2007 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs