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How much is Milton Bradley (or any baseball player) worth?

Friar Forecast has a post on how valuable Milton Bradley might be over the next few years. During grad school, we had to do player valuations in finance classes. My group presented a valuation of BJ Ryan. I learned many a lesson from that valuation.

Incidentally, the primary reason we chose to do BJ Ryan was so that I could say, in front of a group of MBA candidates, "Our analysis will in fact answer the question... What is the value of a BJ? [pause] or a Trevor Hoffman? Or a Mariano Rivera? And once you have an idea of the value of a BJ... How much should you pay for a BJ? [pause] Or a Trevor? Or a Mariano?" Crass, I know... but oh the laughs.

In any case, after we presented our valuation, I had the chance to talk with Jim Bloom, formerly Director of Marketing for the Blue Jays, and he said, "Whatever you valued for BJ Ryan, it was too low."

Oh. Well, thanks. And the reason why?

"You do these valuations with an eye towards how many wins a player will get you and you credit that towards things like post season tickets and stuff, right? Well, the thing that people forget about Toronto is it's not just the only baseball game in town... It's the only baseball game in the entire country."

I paraphrase what he said, but the gist of it is that we have to balance how much a player is going to help the Padres win, with how much a player is going to help the Padres draw fans and subsequently, how much a player is going to make those fans want to spend money. It's the same balancing act that GMs are forced to work with. Granted, it's not like the Padres are looking to satisfy an entire country of baseball fans, but the point is made. We can't just think about wins.

This is also why I strongly suspect that overweight players who are even minimally more valuable in terms of contributing to wins, are more valuable overall in that they make fans feel OK with buying an extra hot dog or bag of peanuts.

Of course, some GMs and executives feel that fans will always watch a winner. To those people, I submit the Atlanta Braves as evidence against the supposed fact. Why wouldn't people go to Braves games when they were kicking everybody's asses? It's because that was a f_cking boring ass group of dudes. Seriously. Glavine? Smoltz? Ugh? Maddux before he admitted that he likes to pee on people? Puhleeze.

Anyways, I'm not sure where I was going with this except to take my mind off of the idea that I wish Milton had stayed with us. I don't blame the guy for wanting an extra million dollars. We've all become a little bit jaded to think that we wouldn't appreciate another million dollars, and that Milton Bradley would appreciate an extra million dollars to spend 8 months in Texas is actually a testament to his intelligence. Loyalty to a club that had you on its roster for all of 3 1/2 months is measured in teaspoons.

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off topic, but it looks like the Nationals tried to nab Greene.  Link below:

http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2007/12/10/nats-tried-to-acquire-khalil-greene/

by edmcd3 on Dec 10, 2007 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

Dex is right...
You can't put a price on certain things.  For instance, I always thought there was some hidden value with Marcus Giles in that he made short people feel better about themselves, or with Clay Hensley for the people that like to rub up against other people in public places.
This is just the tip of the suck iceberg.

by TheGrandHatching on Dec 10, 2007 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

Better career move
The more I think about this, the more I come to believe that Milton made the right move. It's not just about money this year, but potential earnings into the future. If he's not healthy enough to play outfield come Opening Day but he can DH, that could mean another 100 or so PAs. Plus he'll play half his games in a hitter-friendly environment, which should increase his chances to put up big numbers, which should increase his marketability next winter. I'm still bummed, but I totally understand why he jumped.

by Geoff on Dec 10, 2007 11:12 AM PST reply actions  

Good point
The DH plus the extra million (with comparable incentives I'd imagine) make it almost a no brainer to try Texas out.

by Dex on Dec 10, 2007 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

All very valid points....
The DH, hitter-friendly ballpark, and an extra million in cash...all great reasons to go to the Rangers. It would have been nice if he had just tried the honesty route instead of going to another player and saying he didn't know if he was wanted in San Diego.
And while we know the base of the contract was a million dollar difference...we have no idea how much he could have POSSIBLY earned in incentives or how easily those incentives could have been attained.

by Drama on Dec 10, 2007 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

"MB wants to win"
This is the crap that we were hearing while he was in town.  "He is a fierce competitor", blah blah blah.  Then why did he go to the Rangers, who have one winning season in the 2000s.  He is going back to work with the third base coach from a team that he blasted (the A's) after he left.  Sure I'd love to have him on the Pads, but you are always waiting for the next explosion.  If he can't handle San Diego, with its winning record and nice people - can he handle a team sure to lose while confronting major health problems?  I doubt he will last the year in Texas and maybe we can get him back in July for next to nothing.

by planetjeffy on Dec 10, 2007 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Geoff, Dex, and Drama are full of sh*t...
A wiser man than myself once drew the comparison of Milton Bradley to Ron Artest.  Now I think we can all agree that every one of his words rang true, and, when he left, he took a little piece of all of us with him.

God Bless Spec20 and Go Pawds!!!

by TheTaintOfSpec20 on Dec 10, 2007 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

You have no idea what you're talking about.
Geoff isn't even close to being full of shit. Dex is like only half-full of shit. And I'm like 90 to 95% full of shit. Get your facts straight.

BTW - Does anyone know if Ron Artest played in baseball in high school? Can he play in the outfield?

by Drama on Dec 10, 2007 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Money
NO STATE TAXES IN TEXAS!, it is closer to 1.2 Million difference.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra

by Sammy G on Dec 12, 2007 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

Money
NO STATE TAXES IN TEXAS!, it is closer to 1.2 Million difference.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra

by Sammy G on Dec 12, 2007 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

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