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Fact of life: Owners of sports teams would like to make money and be popular


So I'm reading Nick Canepa's article about John Moores and I hesitate to even say anything because what I say on this subject is such an unpopular opinion, but personally, I'm not surprised that Moores would backhandedly badmouth owning the Padres.

In particular, people seem surprised about this:

"To be fair, I don’t know if I’d do it again. It’s like buying an E-ticket at Disneyland and a little ways into the ride saying, ‘Oh, oh, this was a mistake.’ But there are no do-overs, no mulligans. On balance, it was OK, but I probably would have been better off with my money invested in bonds.

And people are like "ROWR! ROWR! YOU'RE A MILLIONAIRE! YOU MADE MONEY AND CRUSHED MY DREAMS! ROWR!"

But read the quote again... "On balance, it was OK". By "balance" he's saying, "Yeah. I made money."

The last part then, if he made money and still feels he would've been better off with his money invested in bonds. What does that mean?

What it means is despite the money, he apparently feels that he had to put up with too much BS to have made it worth his while... or at least make him question if it was worth his while. He's basically saying, "I was told that I could make money eating a hamburger, but it turns out the hamburger was made of shit."

He's not saying that he lost money overall. He's saying that the profit wasn't worth it because owning a team wasn't quite as fun as he thought it would've been or it didn't make him as famous or as loved as he would've liked.

Owners of businesses want to make money.

Owners of sports teams want the fame associated with being the owner of a sports team (and to make money).

Imagine what he went through since he bought the team. After years of being a successful businessman, he operates the team at a loss, every year sinking his own money into this thing after diligently building up his other businesses through thoughtful investment and planning. Others disagree, but it's not like he was guaranteed any particular return in owning the team.

To mitigate that loss, he convinces the city to help fund a ballpark, but finds himself in court for a couple of years. I'm not sure how many of you people who aren't actually lawyers like being in court, but it is what it is.

And then the ballpark gets made and people start knocking on him for daring to make any money off of it. I find it a little ironic that people complain about the fact that he invested in hotels that are doing well, when building hotels was part of the requirement to actually get that land. The city said that he could have that land as part of the investment long as he could guarantee a certain number of hotels also get built, and then later people fault him for having hotels that (may or may not) make money.

So he's spending all this money. He does something that the popular vote says that they wanted. After he does it, everybody yells at him.

And then, after all of that, he ends his ownership with a divorce, which from what I've read, he's to blame for, but still probably isn't the happiest of situations.

All that time and effort and people think of him as the dick that cheated on his wife, bait and switched sports fans in San Diego and made billions of money off of taxpayer dollars, when in his head, he was buying a team because he thought it would be a good diversion considering he was already pretty wealthy.

So if it you wanted a hobbyist owner, it was probably John Moores. If you want a baseball minded owner, it's probably the Moorad group. If you want Mark Cuban or the Steinbrenners or Arte Moreno, you're gonna have to become a fan of a different team because despite what you think or how you believe an owner should operate, those guys aren't just in it for sh_ts and giggles and neither was Moores.

Of course, there's the possibility that by "bonds" he literally meant Barry Bonds and performance enhancement drugs, which would've been a decent financial proposition for a while, but that's probably another blog post.

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It means his return on capital sucked

It was a headache — you have to deal with pissy fans, being a public institution and all that. It was meretriciously fun.

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by scareduck on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

I had to look that up, then add an 'r'

And then my day was doubly made.

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by Aussie fan on Jan 11, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

This deserves to be green

simply for the use of “meretriciously”.

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by Aussie fan on Jan 11, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Very well said.

Unless you’re willing to piss millions of your money away happily and without complaint the fans will always find a reason to hate you. And even then they’ll still find a reason in many cases. Owning a top level sports team really can suck. If you want to be loved, stick to the minors.

by athletics68 on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

raises the question

if you had a burger made my Hubert Keller (burger bar in Vegas….best burgers I ever had), had great prices and profit margin, but the place had to be called “Shit Burger”, would you make money?

I think if you put it in El Cajon you would.

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by Ron Mexico on Jan 11, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey! I grew up in El Cajon...

and concur with your conclusion.

"The Internet?! Is that thing still around?"

by Jsn L on Jan 11, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Padres baseball owners

should have to take a vow of poverty like their team’s namesake.

by jbox on Jan 11, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Moores was a pretty good owner

He hired good baseball people to run the team – and they did a pretty good job.
The divorce and economic downturn forced him to slash payroll and sell the team. If that had not happened, Moores would still own the team and the payroll would be $70 – 80 mil…and we would have to bitch about something else.

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Jan 11, 2012 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

It's a catch 22 really...

fans bitch if owners don’t spend enough money and field a competative…and fans bitch when owners spend too much money on players that don’t perform (i.e. Barry Zito). It must suck to own millions and millions of dollars.

"The Internet?! Is that thing still around?"

by Jsn L on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Never really notice fans complaining about overpaying someone. Its hard for an average fan to determine what an acceptable cost for a player is. Fans usually love paying top price for players because it signals that the organization is serious about winning. People are dumb though.

by soulSD on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I noticed a lot of hate posted on Yahoo! post Zito starts last season...

or was it the season before. I can’t remember…wait. What are we talking about?

"The Internet?! Is that thing still around?"

by Jsn L on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a ridiculous contract.

by soulSD on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

everyone hates

when a player is signed up to a big contract and doesn’t perform.
A large payroll allows teams to make mistakes, whereas a $40 – 50 mil payroll does not.

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Jan 11, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So you’re saying that Yankees fans love mistakes?

by soulSD on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose the lesson to be learned here is...

we should all put some serious thought in before one of us off and decides to purchase the Padres.

"The Internet?! Is that thing still around?"

by Jsn L on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

I was about to tell Moorad & Co. that I was interested in purchasing a particular MLB team from them

I guess I should invest my money in bonds.

Ray Kroc would approve.

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Jan 11, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

moores is like the majority of sports owners

he was already rich, thought owning a team would be a fun hobby and that everyone would love him for it. he was a “happy to be here” owner. liked Fielding a competitive team but never really went for broke, you never got the feeling that winning meant everything to him.
personally I love owners like Cuban and steinbrenner, not because of their resources but because they are motivated solely and maniacally by winning.

it’s too early to tell what kind of owner moorad is going to be. I don’t futz with conspiracy theories. honestly it seems like some padre fans are more concerned with making offseason splashes and big money signings than they are with winning a world series anyway, so there’s that.

by iheartyourfart on Jan 11, 2012 1:19 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

That's why I would have loved to have Cuban as an owner...passion.

Besides, if Moores wanted a hobby he could have taken up needle point.

"The Internet?! Is that thing still around?"

by Jsn L on Jan 11, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The issue here is twofold:

Firstly: Grammatical

“On balance, it was OK”

Because we’re forced to capitalize the word “OK” it looks like Moores is yelling at us and hated his time as an owner of the Padres. This could be alleviated if we were only permitted to go with “ok”. I don’t know who we petition about this.

Secondly: Nick Canepa doesn’t write well.

by AIChief on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Maybe he was saying

on balance, it was Oklahoma.

Not sure what that implies, though.

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by Axion on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently, the balance was whatever Oklahoma is worth

Which is probably in the same neighborhood as Idaho or South Dakota…

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

He meant James Bonds.

by SanDiegoKev on Jan 11, 2012 3:15 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

If this is a White Collar reference, you're my new best friend

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

IJALA*

*Sorry FF, it was just done so very well…

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although it broke our hearts it did not break our will the herd

by Aussie fan on Jan 11, 2012 6:37 PM PST reply actions  

And now I get a reply fail

for my manifold sins.

queen of the rec fairies
although it broke our hearts it did not break our will the herd

by Aussie fan on Jan 11, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If you're getting paid to eat hamburgers, you should definitely expect to find that they are made out of shit.

That’s what happens when you step up to the “I’ll pay you a dollar if you eat this burger” challenge.

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Jan 12, 2012 1:41 AM PST reply actions  

Owning a sports team is all about ego, fame and power.

There are literally tens of thousands of businesses that are in the same value range as a pro sports franchise (somewhere around $250 mil to $1.5 bil). There are 124 pro sports teams (I’m even including the NHL in there). If a wealthy man/woman is interested in making an investment, there are always safer, more lucrative ways of doing so than buying a pro sports team.

I never feel sorry for an owner who claims to be losing money on a franchise. If you were serious about making money, you wouldn’t have bought a team… you’d have bought a financial services company. You just wanted the fame and power.

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by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jan 12, 2012 7:46 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

attention Twins owner

no one man should have all that mauer

by iheartyourfart on Jan 12, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

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