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Midseason Top 10 Padres Prospects

It has been quite some time since I had last posted anything here at Gaslamp Ball and I needed to get back to my roots.  It has been a disappointing season to say the least but we should look ever onward towards the future.  I think that the organization is finally in good, capable hands and a new era is dawning on the beautiful city of San Diego.  Here is a glance at the foundation that is being laid for the Padres.

The grading methodology used here will be the same one that John Sickels uses over at minorleaugeball.  If you haven't been over there yet check it out.  It's fantastic!

I should note that I am neither a scout nor evaluator.  I just love baseball and the Padres.  I read and study a lot about their minor league system and watch a lot of the games but that's about it.

Preseason and midseason Top 10 Padres Prospect list after the jump.

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Preseason Top 10 Padres Prospects (posted Jan. 24th, 2011)

1.) Casey Kelly, RHP, Grade B+
2.) Simon Castro, RHP, Grade B+
**I think both Kelly and Castro are fairly interchangeable in the top spot. 
3.) Jaff Decker, OF, Grade B+
4.) Anthony Rizzo, 1B, Grade B
5.) Donovan Tate, OF, Grade B-
6.) Cory Luebke, LHP, Grade B-
7.) *Drew Cumberland, SS/2B, Grade B-
8.) James Darnell, 3B, Grade B-
9.) Jedd Gyorko, 3B, Grade B-
10.) Keyvius Sampson, RHP, Grade B-

Just missed: Reymond Fuentes, OF, Grade C+

Sleepers: Adys Portillo, Edison Rincon, Rymer Liriano

As far as the sleepers go Edison Rincon is currently having the best season out of the bunch.  .336/.391/.509,  56/26 K/BB,  .388 wOBA.  A butcher a 3B, though.  Likely a future DH.  Rymer Liriano struggled badly in his first and second trips to Lake Elsinore both this year and last.  Demoted to Ft. Wayne where his line currently sits at .309/.383/.467,  61/30 K/BB, .371 wOBA w/ 43 SB(!) in 322 PA.

Adys Portillo's second run at Ft. Wayne thus far has resulted in this:  7.02 ERA,  4.55 FIP,  50 IP,  61 K,  36 BB,  .381 BABIP.  Portillo probably has one of the highest ceilings of any pitcher in this system and at 19yo is still very young.  The spike in Ks this year is very encouraging to me.  If he gains more confidence in his stuff and learns to limit the walks he could definitely be considered a top pitching prospect.

*Note: Drew Cumberland is out for the season, as he deals with vertigo issues, and may very well retire altogether.  Best of luck to him.

 

Here are my Midseason Top 10 Padres Prospects for 2011.  All of these grades and rankings are subject to, and more than likely will, change by season's end.  Graduated from the farm system and thus ineligible from these rankings are both Anthony Rizzo, 1B and Cory Luebke, LHP

 

1.) James Darnell, 3B/OF, Grade B+: His 2nd stop in AA resulted in .333/.434/.604,  432 wOBA,  17 HR,  .271 ISOP, w/ a fantastic 48/52 K/BB in 346 PA and is currently hitting .353/.389/.941 w/ 3 HR, and a 4/1 K/BB in 18 AAA PA.  Has been splitting time between LF/3B this season and has supposedly improved on defense in the hot corner (although is still considered sub par at the position).  Defense and repeating this level are the only things keeping me from giving him an A-

2.) Keyvius Sampson, RHP, Grade B+:  3.27 ERA,  3.00 FIP,  74.1 IP,  51 H,  87 K,  27 BB,  .266 BABIP,  39%GB,  4% HR/Air at Ft. Wayne.  Highest ceiling arm in this system next to Adys Portillo.  A bona fide #2 starter, IMO.  If he continues this kind of production through season's end I would consider giving him an A- and the No. 1 spot.  Possible Top 20 pitching prospect. 

 3.) Casey Kelly, RHP, Grade B: 4.21 ERA,  4.00 FIP,  98.1 IP,  108 H,  75 K,  32 BB,  .334 BABIP,  56%GB, 5% HR/Air.  Heard a scout say Kelly currently possess three + MLB ready pitches (two of which are his fastball and curve).  He went on to say that Kelly's biggest issue right now is he misses his points and catches too much of the plate.  Seems to think that once Kelly learns how to be a pitcher (remember, this is only his second full season) then everything else should fall into place, as his pitches are actually good.  I see Kelly as a solid No. 2/3 blend eventually.

4.) Jedd Gyorko, 3B, Grade B: .365/.430/.635,  54 XBH,  64/38 K/BB,  .445 wOBA,  .270 ISOP,  .411 BABIP in 381 PA at High A Lake Elsinore.  Is currently hitting .321/.387/.607 w/ 2 HR and a 8/2 K/BB in 31 AA PA.  Strong campaign thus far.  Has shown better defense at 3B than fellow prospect James Darnell but should be called marginally average.  I think that he'll be capable in the hot corner. 

5.) Jaff Decker, OF, Grade B: .234/.395/.439,  14 HR,  97/78 K/BB,  .205 ISOP,  .363 wOBA in 395 PA at AA San Antonio.  The BB% is fantastic but that K% is awful.  Extremely streaky season thus far.  

6.) Donavon Tate, OF, Grade B-: .294/.368/.471,  9 XBH,  18/8 BB/K,  7 SB in 76 PA between Eugene and Ft. Wayne.  Hard to grade.  Has made progress but missed a month due to a knee injury and was slapped with a 50 game suspension for drug abuse (though he'll serve only about 25 of those games).  Tate has the highest ceiling of any player in this system but his development has been hindered the past two years.  He simply must stay on the field moving forward. 

7.) Simon Castro, RHP, Grade B-:   10.17 ERA,  6.18 FIP,  25.2 IP,  18 BB,  21 K,  .376 BABIP,  40%GB,  9% HR/Air at AAA Tuson and 4.91 ERA,  3.34 FIP,  36.2 IP,  44 H,  10 BB,  33 K,  .365 BABIP,  43%GB,  3% HR/Air at AA San Antonio.  Questions about his stuff being too hittable (with his delivery not being all that deceptive) last year seems to have had validity.  I still have hope for him but he has sure taken a tumble. 

8.) Corey Spangenberg, 2B, Grade B-: .384/.545/.535,  15/31 K/BB,  .473 wOBA,  10 SB in 121 PA at Eugene.  I know he entered as an advanced hitter for this level but that K/BB ratio is just silly.  Has reached base safely in all 25 of his games played. 

9.) Juan Oramas, LHP, Grade B-:  2.22 ERA,  3.18 FIP,  48.2 IP,  41 K,  15 BB,  .301 BABIP,  34%GB at AA San Antonio.  Future No. 4 starter, could help the Padres sooner rather than later.  

10.) Zach Cates, RHP, Grade B-:  4.44 ERA,  3.05 FIP,  79 IP,  74 K,  33 BB,  .329 BABIP,  50%GB at Low A Eugene.  2010 draftee having a good pro ball season debut.  I like him and think that he'll rise fast. 

 

5 more players of note:

 

Blake Tekotte, OF, Grade B-:  .291/.407/.538,  71/52 K/BB,  .406 wOBA,  26 SB in 339 PA at AA San Antonito. + defender in OF although his bat wont play as well in either corner position.  Should be a productive 4th outfield type for years to come. 

Edison RIncon, 3B/OF, Grade B-:  336/.391/.509,  56/26 K/BB,  33 XBH,  .388 wOBA.  Production is limited to just his bat but it should be a good one.  Likely OF/DH.

John Barbato, RHP, Grade C+:  4.70 ERA,  4.84 FIP,  23 IP,  31 K,  13 BB,  44%GB at Low A Eugene.  Another 2010 draftee of the pitching variety.  Has nice upside.  One to watch going forward. 

Reymond Fuentes, OF, Grade C+:  .273/.342/.344,  77/33 K/BB,  .305 wOBA,  .350 BABIP,  66%GB,  9%LD,  34 SB in 386 PA at High A Lake Elsinore.  I'm not as high on him as most people are but he has great tools, physical abilities.  Possible ++ defender in OF.  Bat needs work, hollow OBP.  

Jason Hagerty, C, Grade C+:  .311/.386/.518,  62/26 K/BB,  33 XBH,  .387 wOBA in 293 PA at High A Lake Elsinore.  Offense first, switch hitting catcher.  BB% fell by half this season but maintained most of his other rates.  There are still questions about his D behind the plate. 

 

Though this system is missing potential bona fide star prospects(!!) it is rich in potential good to great players and useful MLB talent.  Even with the loss of three former Top 10 members in the past year (Anthony Rizzo, Corey Luebke, Drew Cumberland) it should still be considered a deep system, with its only real thin spots being MI and C.  

This FanPost was written by a member of the Gaslamp Ball community and does not necessarily reflect the views of the Gaslamp Ball managers or SB Nation.

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I know Baseball Prospectus' Kevin Goldstein just did his midseason top 50

Casey Kelly was on it. Sampson and Darnell were not.

Just food for thought.

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by Wonko on Jul 18, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Can you...

really fault someone for being skeptical on Kelly? After all, he really has never had dominant success in the minor leagues (unless you’re looking the other way on that ’09 BABIP), and we just got burned on Aaron Poreda under reasonably similar circumstances.

The GB% is there and the scouts still like him, but I’m tempering my expectations, and won’t hold that against polyrhythm. Afterall, it may speak more to Darnell and Sampson than Kelly, for all we know.

by Marver on Jul 18, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a major problem with the red sox system

There is so much insane hype on all their prospects your never sure what your getting. Wouldn’t be surprised if part of that was on purpose. We got three of their top players, one is struggling to get to the mendoza line, one has shown nothing in high A and the ‘cornerstone’ is at best an average pitcher so far. So far not good, we have time I know but for the talk of getting dominating players the Red Sox have one of the best 1B in the game and we have some giant ?s

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by TheAxManCometh on Jul 18, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I?

No. Why do you ask?

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by Wonko on Jul 18, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

While I think that both Kelly and Sampson will end up better players I ultimately gave Darnell the top spot for now because I think that he is the most MLB ready player in this system (That coupled w/ his track record and success so far at the top levels of the system). I may change my mind by season’s end, though.

by polyrhythm07 on Jul 18, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, forgot that Gyorko was also in that top 50.

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by Wonko on Jul 19, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Liriano?

.895 OPS and 44 SB, just turned 20.

Here’s a recent excerpt from the Baseball America hotsheet:

Christian (San Diego): Rymer Liriano has been putting up some impressive numbers in Fort Wayne. What is the report on him?

Ben Badler: The numbers are good this year, he’s making progress, it’s just most likely going to be very slow progress. Bat speed, power, run, throw—those tools are all there, he’s just raw at the plate, so he’s going to take some patience.

by Marver on Jul 18, 2011 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Liriano

Has high potential (as well as high bust). He didn’t miss by much. I’d like to see him progress at the next level before I include him though.

by polyrhythm07 on Jul 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

One other note

Spandenburg is rather high on this considering he did well in short season and hasn’t had a hit since moving to Ft Wayne

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by TheAxManCometh on Jul 18, 2011 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

He's also one of the youngest players on that team.

Only Domoromo and Liriano are younger.

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by Wonko on Jul 18, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's been there for 4 games

that’s like saying we have a problem with sample si—

by iheartyourfart on Jul 18, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thought he had been there longer

If that’s the case I am mistaken then

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by TheAxManCometh on Jul 18, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

looks like we've got some potential contributors

no huge standouts/can’t miss guys, but this list will probably look a lot more interesting after the trade deadline, especially if we move mike adams (who has the most trade value of any padre on the market).

by iheartyourfart on Jul 18, 2011 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

also consider that the indians and tigers are both hot on aaron harang

and qualls/ludwick are as good as gone. between those three we could see some fringy B guys at least adding potential to our system.

by iheartyourfart on Jul 18, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Rymer deserves a little more love

The scouting indices love Tate a little more, but Rymer has produced far more than Donovan has this year. The Midwest League isn’t known for its hitter’s parks, either, so the odds of seeing hitting inflation like in the Cal League or PCL aren’t quite so high. His combination of speed and power make him an exciting prospect to root for.

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by sdchicken on Jul 18, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Masta Rymer Omar Liriano comin' outta da shoot

Tearin’ up yo mama’s turf ‘n not givin’ a hoot

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by sdchicken on Jul 18, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who the fcuk is Matt Clark?

the guys has hit at every level, is 24 (turns 25 in December), yet I never heard anyone mention him as a prospect. He looks like he could be at least a 4th out fielder if not have a chance at an everyday position.

Why no love from the scouts?

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by Ron Mexico on Jul 18, 2011 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

he's always been old for his league

and his Ks are too high and BBs too low. his bat seems ok, but not good enough to stick at a corner position. he may grow into a decent role player, but it would probably have to take some injuries/depth chart jumping for him to even get a shot.

by iheartyourfart on Jul 18, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks

I’ve seen his number and always thought they were good enough to get some attention, but wonder why he never gets any attention even as a sleeper.

I also have a unhealthy interest in Rincon. The 10 times I have seen him play, he just “stood out” at the plate for both teams. I haven’t seen him tested in the field, but if Carlos Lee can stick in the OF, then Edison is much more athletic and should be able to play at least LF.

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by Ron Mexico on Jul 18, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sleeper usually implies that a player has some untapped potential

I don’t think there is any extra potential in a Matt Clark type guy (or a Cody Decker for that matter). They are what they are and if they hit at every level and there’s an opening at the big league level then they’ll get a shot. But, nobody is going to go out on a limb for guys like that.

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by Wonko on Jul 19, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Stairs part deux?

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by TheAxManCometh on Jul 18, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's exciting to finally have a decent farm system

I’m most high on keyvius sampson, he appears to be dominating low a. I’m curios how he’ll do in the cal league. I’m also interested to see how edinson does when he gets to San Antonio, I thought he was supposed to have more power than he does however can’t complain with the high average.

I’m a little disappointed in jaff decker. He started off on a tear and I really thought he was going to take the leap to a premier prospect. He’s had a very streaky career thus far dating back to last year with his injury. The power and potential is there, hopefully he can end the season strongly and find himself in aaa to start next year.

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by mrbarneydangles on Jul 18, 2011 11:04 PM PDT reply actions  

He's still very, very young for AA

Most AA players are 23 or 24. Decker is 21. If he had gone to college he would have been drafted this year. Now imagine a guy we just drafted hitting HRs and getting on base like he does in AA.

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by Wonko on Jul 19, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

This.

Even if he repeats AA to begin next season then moves to AAA he’ll be 22-23 in AAA with an ETA of 2013 to the bigs. I like the fact that we’re challenging our younger minor league players to play above their comfort levels.

TBD

by IputtheYinTony on Jul 19, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the same goes for Casey Kelly

He’s the 2nd youngest player on the team and the 2nd youngest pitcher on the team. If he were exactly a year older, he’d still be the 3rd youngest pitcher on the team and 5th youngest player on his AA team.

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by Wonko on Jul 19, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

and his peripherals don’t look bad other than the K rate. you’ll take a high k rate/lower average from a guy who walks a ton and has power. The fact that he’s already developed power and patience at a young age also bode well for his future development.

by iheartyourfart on Jul 19, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

Never thought of it that way.

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by mrbarneydangles on Jul 19, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Young compared to the average AA player, sure.

But not young compared to the average legitimate prospect playing in AA.

by Marver on Jul 19, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just average compared to the average legitimate prospect playing in AA. He’s not an elite prospect anyway.

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by Wonko on Jul 19, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

His comment

expressed his disappointment that he didn’t leap into the “premier prospect” category. In that context, the age comment doesn’t really do anything to modify his disappointment. Either he would make the jump to premier prospect and be at the same developmental point in his career as those types of players, or he wouldn’t make the jump; and he’s disappointed it’s the latter.

by Marver on Jul 19, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I'm just saying

He still has time to make that leap since he’s young. Younger than a college player. Jedd Gyorko is considered a top 50 prospect now and he’s a year older than Decker.

All your comment pointed out is that he won’t be one of the youngest legitimate prospects. I figured that pointing out that he won’t even be close to being one of the oldest. He’s average by age and yet still on a better pace than a prospect that went to college.

mrbarneydangles even said I made a good point. So, I don’t get why you’re trying to make it seem like I took him out of context.

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by Wonko on Jul 19, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post and rec'd

I dont pay for Keith Law’s so this is just fine. But is Tate a legit prospect still? He seems he should have advance further by now.

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by L Magico on Jul 22, 2011 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

He basically becomes the equivalent

Of a guy we got out of college instead of a guy we got out of high school. 3 years wasted, but still time to get on track.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Tate

if my counting skills are still in tact then he should be back sunday

don't panic. stay cool. dream big.

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by thepadfather on Jul 22, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good list Poly

My list has the same top 5, just different order.

What do you think of Lollis? I would have him over Cates and in my top 10. He’s still just 20 and his K/9 took a big step forward. Playing in the Cal League with that god awful defense behind him has to be a nightmare. I expect him to put up fantastic numbers in AA. He seems like the type of pitcher that would excel at Petco. Big guy with a good downward plane on his pitches.

It’s nice to have 13-15 guys that are legitimately in the conversation for top 10. I think when Sickels makes his list for next year we will have 14+ guys that are graded B- or better.

by Antonio Olivares on Jul 22, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

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