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by jbox on Jun 23, 2011 9:55 AM PDT

Phillies, Mariners, Reds interested in Padres’ Ludwick - Yardbarker
One of the likeliest scenarios would involve the Padres trading two relievers – closer Heath Bell and veteran setup man Chad Qualls – while keeping the more affordable Mike Adams and Luke Gregerson.
San Diego Padres at Boston Red Sox - June 22, 2011 | MLB.com SD Recap
"It's good for our psyche," manager Bud Black said of the victory, which leads into an off-day on Thursday as the team returns home. "We came into a tough ballpark, against a team that's been playing well. Our guys should feel good about it."
Richard defeats Red Sox, rain delays - SignOnSanDiego.com
"The double play in the first was huge," Richard said. "Picking off Cameron was huge. The defense was great in terrible conditions. It’s always good to win."

PADRES: Richard gets support in rainy win over Red Sox
"If there's one guy in the rotation we feel good about having out there in these conditions, it's Clayton," Black said. "With all the work he puts in on the side, and his resiliency, he has an arm that can withstand delays." "I'm glad Clayton picked up the W. He deserved this one."

PADRES NOTES: Luebke will get start against Braves
"We talked about this now for a couple of weeks, even before Aaron's foot injury," said Padres manager Bud Black, referring to injured starter Aaron Harang. "We looked at the depth of our starters, and we wanted (Luebke) to be in the mix.

Padres dunk Boston in rain-shortened game - SignOnSanDiego.com
"If this day wasn’t so horrible, I’d probably be celebrating more," said Padres third baseman Chase Headley. "I’m glad we won. That feels great. But we shouldn’t have played that game today. "At some point, baseball has to take into consideration the health of the players. At some point today, I felt that was sacrificed. That’s the worst conditions I’ve seen since I’ve been in the big leagues."

The Padres, Chargers, Illini Blog: With The Padres At Fenway: Vol. 1
He gave them all hugs and shrugged as if to say, "Yeah, I did hit that laser off the 420 sign, but we really got pounded. I'd rather get a W."

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If Ludwick goes anywhere, I think we might get the best deal from Cincinnati

And Qualls…Qualls can go wherever.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Jun 23, 2011 10:10 AM PDT reply actions

I agree, but who would we give up Ludwick for?

We all know that Cinci has become a power hitting team. We need someone who can bloop all the time.

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by greekpadre on Jun 23, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions

I follow the Reds since I live in their backyard

and live with two Reds fans, not to mention my best friend who lives two doors down…
I think we could pair him up with an iffy minor leaguer and get a starting arm since they have more than they know what to do with.

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by TheThinGwynn on Jun 23, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Before considering trades, think of the complication of this year's schedule.

The Padres are down now, but the best way to move up in the division is head to head. The Padres play each divisional rival 18 times, for a total of 72 games. So far, they’ve played only 22 of them. They’ve only played the Giants twice, and D’backs five of the 18.

The complication is that of the 50 intra-divisional games remaining, 30 are AFTER the trade deadline, including 27 straight from August 23 to September 25. Jed runs the risk of making a trade in late July that he may wish he hadn’t made by August/September.

That backloaded divisional schedule may not figure in your speculation, but there’s no doubt in my mind it’s part of Jed’s calculations. The Padres didn’t make the move they should have in June, but there are 20 divisional games from the 4th of July to the trading deadline, 8 before the All-Star break and 12 after, so I expect Jed to wait until the last minute to pull the trigger on trades.

by wegotballsley on Jun 23, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions

A healthy Blanks replaces a Ludwick

and the bullpen is all capable or shifting back an inning. I agree that trades will happen closer to the deadline but I don’t feel like these two guys will have an impact on whatever chances we end up having.

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Jun 23, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions

Sure

They have 6 divisional games to finish July, but unless there is a significant improvement in the divisional games stretching from July 4 through July 17 then it will be really, really obvious by then that the Padres are sellers. If the Padres lose ground during that stretch, there’s nothing those final 6 games in July will be able to do to change things.

The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!

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by Wonko on Jun 23, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions

Agree, plus it's difficult to move up in a division from last place

because the teams above you are playing each other, splitting series, etc, meaning a 5-game winning streak can mean only gaining a game on the leader, especially if that leader is replaced by another team. It’s the hopping over other teams that slows the process. Hoping for the first place team to collapse is a lot easier than hoping for all three teams above you to collapse.

by EvilSammy on Jun 23, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions

I really don't think we can afford to plan ahead

under the assumption that the Padres will be able to suddenly become competitive. If there was some sign that we’ve just had some bad luck, maybe, but every peripheral number seems to indicate we are pretty much just as bad as we look.

I think it is important to start the shopping process now, since that way we will be able to maximize the best possible deal as we approach the trade deadline.

by isaic16 on Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions

It would definitely be foolish

To not start listening to offers now and if a good deal comes up they should take it. I’m almost positive the FO believes the same. It’s just there are still games to play (including this divisional ones) and the right offer may not be on the table yet. So, you might as well give it a go and see what happens.

The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Jun 23, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree completely

Maybe I understood wrong, but he sounded to me like he didn’t want us to consider being sellers until we had more division games under our belts. I was pointing out that the probability we would turn it around was not high enough to warrant us not seriously entertaining offers.

by isaic16 on Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, it's not black or white

It’s shades of grey. I assume there is some level of “working a trade” vs “listening to offers” vs “shopping players” or whatever. For all his reasons I don’t think they are burning up the phone lines, but they’d be fools not to listen.

I still think those division games around the All Star break in July have been circled for a while now. However, this recent 6 game losing streak and tough homestand is probably making the FO wonder if there is any meaning left to those games.

The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Jun 23, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions