Around the Mission: 5/13 Padres Links
by jbox on May 13, 2011 1:34 PM PDT
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What was 1090 saying about us??less than a minute ago via Twitter for iPhone 
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@SPFsocial @Marty1090 thanks to SPFsocial for sticking up for us....hard to believe our own radio show doesn't like us.less than a minute ago via Twitter for iPhone Favorite Retweet ReplyHeath Bell
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Petco's run-supressing talents still on my mind, I'm thinking Jake Peavy should commission an oil painting of Petco and display it in one of his posh homes. -
Gregerson's ride is as retro as he is - SignOnSanDiego.com
"Luke’s the T-Bird-type guy," said Adams. (True enough, Gregerson once drove an ’87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe.) "What was that (movie)? ‘Grease?’ It fits his personality perfectly. He’s that retro-type guy." - XX Sports Radio: Corey Brock Interview with Darren Smith (MP3)
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"Obviously, the 2007 World Series, making it there and the stretch run we had there that September," Hawpe said. "I will always remember making my debut against the Braves [in 2004] -- going 4-for-5 in a doubleheader -- thinking, 'Man, I'm going to be good in this game.' A few weeks later, I'm back in [Triple-A Colorado Springs] trying to figure it out.
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I've determined
that Marty has too much free time during off days.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
this x 100
"I suggest more bike" ~KSK
"The Red Sox and Yankees are playing as I type but I don't know who's winning because I don't watch Arena League baseball." - the genius TTG
Destroying your facts with opinions
I tried to follow what they were talking about
The best info I can gather is that if you boo the Padres, they’ll eventually win a championship.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Padres fans are idiots because they don't hate on their team enough.
I need new pants.
I believe that we will win.
But for the most part it seemed like gibberish
I think it all boils down to no one likes losing. But, Marty Caswell thinks that we are bad fans because we have a team that is losing.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
We are the worse fans in all of America after all.
"Rob Johnson sucks" --me
"Norf just does it because he straight up suckles on b-holes out there."--TheThinGwynn
Not that I am sticking up for Marty, but I think a lot of her tweets were taken out of context. Obviously it is difficult to accurately describe your feelings (or tone) in 140 characters or less.
I can understand (to a certain extent) what she was trying to say. Fans in other cities throw tantrums, boo and DEMAND that their organizations are dedicated to winning and show that they will not tolerate simply “rebuilding” every other year. That just doesn’t happen in San Diego.
But the throwing tantrums, boo and "demanding" things
Isn’t going to improve an organization that is already doing everything it can to win. Especially with a front office that is just starting to undo the mistakes of the former front offices.
I doubt any amount of those sort of antics has every given an owner any reason to take money from his own pockets to add to the coffers.
It took the Phillies fans over a decade for their team to come back from the depths. And they didn’t do it anything any differently from what the Padres are doing. They just happened to have a few of their prospects pan out (Rollins, Utley, Hamels, Howard, Myers) at the same time as when they acquired 3 retreads that also panned out (Victorino, Lidge and Werth).
The fact that she doesn’t understand that and goes on to call the fans idiots reflects poorly upon her understanding of sports and the San Diego fan base.
Fans can get mad all they want, but it doesn’t result in anything except probably health problems from all the stress.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
by Wonko on May 13, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Again, I agree
And I support the Padres 100%. I don’t always agree with the choices made as an organization, I do wish that at least once we would be that team to go out and sign big name (not over the hill) free agents and not let our big name talent go, rather than always being that team that is “rebuilding” or taking chances on young guys…But I do also understand what the new owners are trying to do. It will get better. I know that fans could complain all they want, but it is ultimately up to the organization to make decisions. I was just saying that I understand where Marty is coming from, to a point.
Calling Padre fans "Idiots" is unacceptable.
She can call out the organization to her heart’s content, but Padre fans listen to that station and you don’t insult your own listeners.
Hear hear
I’m pretty sure she won’t be fired, but she should be. That was extremely stupid of her to do.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Agreed
Nobody ever said she is intelligent.
I am greatly entertained by the “evilmarty1090” twitter page
by T_Dub on May 13, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
up there with favorite new twitter account of the year
along with humbelbrag
"I suggest more bike" ~KSK
"The Red Sox and Yankees are playing as I type but I don't know who's winning because I don't watch Arena League baseball." - the genius TTG
Destroying your facts with opinions
The only real point Marty made
was that she’s upset about the Padres current state. Everything else was misguided and needless. I, for one, expect more from someone with the kind of access she has.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Yes, this. All of this.
She tweeted, “‘Believing’ doesn’t win games.” Being negative towards the team doesn’t win games either. It’s not going to magically increase payroll. It’s not going to make the players pitch/hit/field better.
But we’re idiots if we would rather try to stay positive about the team.
I need new pants.
I believe that we will win.
I gotta say
If I have a choice between doing two things that have no effect on the outcome of anything (believing vs. bemoaning), then I’m going to do the one that’s least stressful and brings me the least mental anguish. From my perspective, that’s believing. Getting worked up over things I can’t change is just going to give me ulcers and heart problems.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
by Wonko on May 13, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
you just summed up my entire outlook on fandom
one of my favorite comments you’ve ever made my wonky friend. hear hear.
"I suggest more bike" ~KSK
"The Red Sox and Yankees are playing as I type but I don't know who's winning because I don't watch Arena League baseball." - the genius TTG
Destroying your facts with opinions
by justdave on May 13, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with both of you – great comment, Wonko! I am not someone who has EVER booed my team(s). As much as I want them to win and am disappointed when they don’t, I still try to remain positive.
by T_Dub on May 13, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
my fingers are getting tired
from giving out all these recs
by iheartyourfart on May 14, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
However
I’m still going to boo O-Dog. Because its funny. On the same level as calling Headley the Savior.
And I might boo the whole team now. But, it’ll be because I’m mocking Marty Caswell. Booing = Rings. Where’s my ring?
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Are you serious?
The Phillies “didn’t do it anything any differently from what the Padres are doing”? The Padres signed two Cy Young caliber pitchers for $33 million? The Padres kept their All Star first baseman for $20 million per year? I agree with your “idiot” statement, but the Phillies organization is unlike the Padres. And you’re making it out as if good scouting and a good farm system that developed their prospects is mere luck. When five prospects “pan out” while retreads (you forgot Ibanez) also pan out, I think you have to start giving the organization some credit.
by EvilSammy on May 13, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They did those things AFTER they won the world series.
From 2002-2007 They had winning records. Then in 2008 they won a world series. There were no Cy Young Award winners on those teams. They were able to do that because a consistent winner brought in the fans. They didn’t start winning because they spent first. The spent because they had money in the coffers after years of success.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I wasn't aware of your timeline
in the analysis. So I see what you’re getting at. But the Phillies were not faced with constantly having to retool as players became too expensive. Their ’08 team payroll was over $100 million. No, not Yankee/Red Sox big, but still triple that of the Padres. Of course, if this team can bump payroll – or could have last year even 15% – we might be the ones celebrating instead of SF. And THAT would probably prove your point. :)
They were paying Thome and Abreu top dollar
in the early part of the decade.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/philadelphia-phillies_18.html
I’m having a hard time drawing comparisons between the Phillies and Padres.
http://chargerdynasty.blogspot.com/ " If you have some spare money hanging around, it would be worth your time to place some bets based on my Chargers 38 Bengals 7 prediction"
Ibanez was also not on those teams.
He was another guy they spent money on AFTER they became a winner.
And no, scouting and developing are not luck. But you actually have to do those things, something the Padres haven’t done under past ownership and management. They are basically starting from scratch. Much like the Phillies had to do when they were doing things like trading away Schilling and failing to sign J.D Drew.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
However, it there is some luck involved with prospects
There were plenty of other teams working just as hard to draft and develop talent as the Phillies were when they found and developed all those gems. Something gave them an edge, I’m sure, be it luck or otherwise. But, I don’t think they got those guys because the fan base was upset at losing.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I think media
and fans get too much credit from talkers and fans with respect to what teams do.
By the way, Wonko, I am finding your analysis pretty refreshing. You take the “atic” out of ’fan".
just wanna say the sox aren't hurting that much with peavy's contract
they were smart enough to get insurance on it and ended up paying very little for the last two seasons IIRC
Most likely if they got insurance on it
It wouldn’t cover any injuries to his arm since he had previous injuries there. Getting insurance on baseball players contracts is near impossible.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
quoted from mlbtr:
Also from Kaplan, up to 65% (roughly $24MM) of Jake Peavy’s remaining salary could be covered by an insurance policy. This could give the White Sox some financial room to acquire another pitcher. Barry Axelrod, Peavy’s agent, tells Kaplan that it is much more difficult for teams to get insurance on multiyear pitching contracts today than it was for San Diego in 2009. Peavy has yet to pitch in 2011 due to his recovery from offseason shoulder surgery, and is tentatively scheduled to return to the Sox rotation by mid-May.
and more recently:
The White Sox have insurance on Jake Peavy, according to Heyman. This means that the team may already have started receiving payments to help cover the injured right-hander’s $16MM salary.
by iheartyourfart on May 13, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
Maybe because it was technically his back and not his arm.
I’m guessing those premiums must have been pretty high. Surprised they bothered.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Yeah, I doubt the Padres would even get insurance
Couldn’t afford the premiums.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
i think i read KT actually got the policy
but i’m not 100% so don’t quote me on that
by iheartyourfart on May 14, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking back at a baseball prospectus article on these policies
Coverage paying 50 or 75 percent of the salary is more common. And a stint on the 15-day disabled list won’t result in any financial help for a club because policies generally require a player to spend 45-90 days on the DL for coverage to apply. So the team is left to cover the cost of an injured player’s salary for the first several weeks of down time.
The cost of premiums paid by the clubs can vary, depending on the team’s deductible and how comprehensive the coverage is. A premium can be as expensive as 10 percent of a contract’s average annual value, with policies usually covering three-year intervals and renewable beyond that. Pitchers and their fragile arms are more expensive to insure than position players, and an insurance company might choose to exclude from coverage a specific body part (say, a closer’s elbow) depending on his injury history.
So, they would probably be on the hook for about ~$1.6M premium plus the cost of his first 15-45 days on the DL. Then they would only recoup 50-75% of the salary for the days after that.
Assuming this is a typical structure.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
And, like I said above, they probably got lucky that it wasn't his elbow.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
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