Huston Street inches closer to being closer for Padres
by jbox on Dec 7, 2011 9:40 AM PST
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PrintI don't really get this move. Why spend so much on a closer while clearly in a rebuilding phase? If it's true that the Padres will pick up most of Street's $7.5M salary next season then it just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. Maybe I'm missing something.
Wouldn't it be more fiscally responsible to let one of our young and cheap pitchers grow into the role? Just let Petco Park do the heavy lifting for a few years while Luke Gregerson closes. Relief pitchers grow like weeds in Petco Park. You could even let Brad Brach cut his teeth until the team has a chance of being competitive again.
I liked the deal a lot more when it was rumored to involve the Rockies taking Orlando Hudson and his contract in return for Street. Oh well, Street will likely just be a one year rental because of his $500K buy out anyway.
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but he is so handsome
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
What's so hard to understand?
The sense of this deal is that Street makes the bullpen stronger for 2012, the Padres can afford it, and the Padres apparently are giving up little in return with the PTBNL.
If you want the team to do exactly what you want, instead of what it’s doing now, all you have to do is buy it. Doesn’t that make sense?
by playingwithinmyself on Dec 7, 2011 9:49 AM PST reply actions
If you love Huston Street so much
YOU should have outbid the Padres.
Your argument makes about as much sense as that.
by jbox on Dec 7, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
So, bloggers aren't supposed to express an negative opinion?
Or question the team? Who are you, Harry Caray?
I don’t mind the Street deal….IF(IF IF IF) he is used as trade bait, and to give our younger relievers some experience and time to develop a bit more.
Current value, perhaps
But a few months in Petco, not to mention has decent numbers outside of coors anyway, and some desperation from a contender in July is likely to drive up that value.
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It was a salary dump move by the Rockies who want to sign a starting pitcher.
Would you have preferred to see the Padres trade a valuable prospect AND assume most of money of the contract?
Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...
No, I like the trade the way It went down.
I just happen to believe that his best value will be as The Padres closer.
I'm OK with this move
Not convinced after last year that Gregerson is ready for the closer role, but he can try it out a handful of times during the season.
The really important question is: what is Street’s intro song? If he doesn’t have one, there are lots of punny possibilities. “Street Fightin’ Man,” “Taking It to the Streets,” “Where the Streets Have No Name.”
25 years as a baseball fan and I'm still confused by the infield fly rule
Too obvious
“Highway to Hell”
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by Boilermaker19 on Dec 7, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I only like this move if it is a direct swap
of Hudson for Street. I’d rather have an overpaid pitcher for one year than an overpaid infielder for a year.
by Shaqapopolis on Dec 7, 2011 10:00 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Lots of good discussion points on MLBTR:
1) 6 years younger than Bell
2) Signed for $7.5M this year, with a $9M mutual option for next year with a $500K buy-out
3) Could be flipped mid-season for players
4) If not, could leave and provide pick(s) as Type A or B
5) Gives younger guys (Brach, Mikolas, Quackenbush, Frieri, Gregerson) time to advance through the system and gain confidence.
TBD
by IputtheYinTony on Dec 7, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions 8 recs
Good points
Didn’t even think about flipping him for more prospects at the trade deadline.
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by mrbarneydangles on Dec 7, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
We are paying a little under half the money we had to play with
for a closer the Rockies were desperate to get rid of (which speaks of just how good he is). That should tell you all you need to know
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by TheAxManCometh on Dec 7, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
There are no more Type A or Type B free agents next offseason
There will be no comp picks unless the Padres offer him a guaranteed 1 year contract equal to the average of the top 125 baseball salaries within a week or so after the season ends. Using last year’s numbers I was told that’s around $11M or more.
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I guess this was discussed below
Don’t mind me.
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Our bullpen is VERY thin right now
And unless we are going to be acquiring a GOOD 2B/corner outfielder/SP, I don’t see where else to spend the money.
Sure, we could have bid on that Japanese shortstop 2million+1 dollars would have landed the bid and signed him to a multi-year deal, and that might have been a better move…
However, our bullpen does not look very good right now. Gregerson and Frieri are the only solid relievers we have now, and neither looks as solid as Bell/Adams. Gregerson might be able to regain some of what he lost last year, and Frieri might grow into a more dominating presence, but that’s no sure thing.
After those two, the next most-used reliever was Spence and/or Bass (depending on how you look at the GP vs IP)… and after that… there’s no one really.
So, call me crazy, but with the loss of both Adams and Bell, our once great strength is now a potential weakness.
Besides, we’re SD… any pitcher can come here and look awesome.
I am fine with it too
I don’t mind them spending money on one year of a closer. It’s better than signing one to a multi-year contract or giving up prospects for him. With the contracts relievers are signing this year Street probably would fetch about $7.5M/year but for 2 or 3 years. If his health wasn’t a concern he’d get 3 for sure. He has very good rate stats, but gives up a lot of fly balls. Should be fine in Petco.
Like you say it will be hard to find somewhere to spend the money if not on the pitching. The market for decent outfielders is Willingham, Cuddyer, Beltran, and maybe Quentin and Upton. Willingham would have a hard time covering RF in Petco, and is looking for a 3+ year contract. Cuddyer and Beltran are going to get more than the Padres can afford and more years than they would like to commit to. Quentin and Upton would cost prospects the Padres should not be giving up for one year of a guy.
With Byrnes saying they are not looking to add any starting pitchers I kind of expected them to spend 10M or so on a couple relievers. I am okay with Street. Hopefully they can pick up one more reliever for 3-4M, like Dotel, Saito, or Wheeler.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
we are apparently checking in on joel zumaya
chula vista kid, 100mph gas. could be interesting.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Wonder if he can still hit 100 after elbow surgery
I remember when that elbow injury happened, it looked horrible. I don’t know anything about his secondary pitches, just remember that he was huge and threw stupid hard. Wonder if he has it in him to succeed as more of a pitcher than a thrower. Could be worth a minor league contract to find out.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
So?
January we can collect relievers who want to rebuild their damn value pitching in our grand canyon, and can get them very cheap. It’s not hard to woo pitchers to come to San Diego nor is it very expensive.
Now hitters………
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by TheAxManCometh on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
This is a fine deal.
Street is actually a very good pitcher. They money isn’t exorbitant, especially given that it’s only for one year, and the Padres had money to spend. It fills a need and provides a veteran presence in the bullpen. Don’t understand why people are hating on it.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 7, 2011 10:20 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
you can also cut off at least $2m
since he’s got trade-deadline trade written all over him once petco inflates his stats. unless we’re still in the race, in which case you still collect pick(s) for him.
and from what i hear the rockies are also picking up at least some of the tab.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
just found out
the rockies are picking up $1m of his contract. $500k now and the $500k buyout if we decline his option
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
It should be noted
The Padres wouldn’t get that second $500K if they traded him. Not sure anyone cares…
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because
They think we can sign some sort of offensive stud player for 7-8 million per year, but only for 1-2 years…
I think the O-dawg and Bartlett are proof that such ideas tend to not work out well. ALTHOUGH, I would take a rider on Milton Bradley for one year. He raked in PETCO.
Let’s just be really good at the things we should be good at… pitching, pitching, speed, and defense, and more pitching.
Yeah actually hitting is pointless
We don’t need that, let’s just get pitchers
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by TheAxManCometh on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
I think the money could have been spent better getting a few AA and AAA guys
a few guys that would be ready in a year or two. 2012 is a throwaway year.
by kevintheoman on Dec 7, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
how would you go about getting AA or AAA guys?
if they are top prospects, then they wouldnt be free agents and we’d have to trade something. What left do we have to trade for prospects? IF they are free agents, and still in AA or AAA- DO NOT WANT.
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Yeah the only way to acquire good AA/AAA guys is trades
So the money wouldn’t help there.
Though like others have said, by picking up Street they have a chance to acquire AA/AAA guys at next year’s deadline by moving him.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it comes down to that
he covers a “need” at closer, while hopefully rebuilding his value to garner a top prospect.
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I'll freely admit I don't know anything
Is it possible to “trade” with cash considerations only? Must there always be a player or a ptbnl involved? I just wanted to cut out the middle step of Street.
The more I think about it though, I guess it doesn’t matter if there is a middle step or not.
technically it is possible
but the commissioner’s office looks down on those deals.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
it does happen
but the trade usually is player z for ptbnl or cash considerations. Didn’t the Ludwick trade to Pittsburgh end up being cash considerations? i may be wrong, i just don’t remember getting anyone back.
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i think you're right
same thing happened in the bartlett deal i think. we never got a PTBNL and ended up just receiving ca$hmoney
by iheartyourfart on Dec 8, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Commissioner's office only has to approve them when the $ figure goes over a certain threshold
And they’ll only approve those if the $ are being sent to offset the salary of the acquired player.
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Just the latest Petco Park Alchemy deal
Sign to a short contract. Get some production. Offer arbitration. Watch him sign somewhere else. Get picks.
We should see about trading picks for wins straight up. We could pad our totals nicely that way.
The getting picks thing is pretty much over.
Under the new deal they would have to make a much higher offer, in order to get picks.
by field39 on Dec 7, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Was just looking that up to post here
It’s a salary equal to the average yearly salary for the top 125 highest paid players. Which I guess would be about $12M
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah I don't think they'll offer him arb.
Probably a pretty decent chance he’d accept. Could be wrong though.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 7, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Have we had any pitchers accept arbitration?
Trying to prove that you’re better than the Petco Park effect seems like a losing battle regardless. You’d be like, “Look! I posted numbers similar to a 29 year old Mariano Rivera!” And the Padres would have a piece of paper with the words “Petco Park” written on it.
the arbritrators
don’t know anything about baseball. They only hear the arguments. That is why the player usually wins.
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If he has even a decent year, I think he turns it down
If he stays healthy and puts up sub 3.00 ERA, K/inning, and 30-40 saves, he turns it down and signs a multi year deal… probably better than Heath’s deal since Street is younger and (potentially) a better K rate.
There'd be no incentive to offer him arbitration
Since you can’t get picks anyway.
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but only a 1 year deal
would you rather…
12M for 1 year or
10-20 million for 2 years or
15-30 million for 3 years…
That’s why this new system should be good. Players on a horrible downward spiral will not be offered arbitration (good!), but players who are still peaking/valuable will get offered arbitration AND turn it down, unless they REALLY want to stay put and don’t care about maximizing their value.
The 1 year offer
Is not arbitration. It is a guaranteed contract offer. Player either takes it or leaves it. And they make the decision much earlier than the deadline for arbitration cases.
Under the new system, you’d only offer a player arbitration if you want him to stay.
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Is there any way to game the system and weasel out of it?
For instance, could you have the total contract be worth 12 million only with exorbitant performance incentives?
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It specifically uses the word "guaranteed"
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It doesn't go into effect this year though
Which is why we still get picks for Bell and Harang. Starting next year the change goes into effect.
Another note about the change is that the player has to have played for the team the entire previous year to be eligible for compensation. So the Blue Jays will no longer be making deadline trades just to collect more picks.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
glad we're not seeing brach or gregerson thrust into the closer role
closing has a significant mental aspect to it. gregs was inconsistent last year and you never want a rookie closing right away without getting over big league jitters first. if a guy like brach struggles early his confidence could be hurt to the point where he never becomes a closer.
right
the other 50 will be walk-offs
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
No. At least 5 of those leads will be >3 runs.
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by Boilermaker19 on Dec 7, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Huh, he has the same bithday as my mother.
Let’s hope he doesn’t blow as many leads as she does strangers.
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In addition to a bithday, they also share a birthday.
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by TheThinGwynn on Dec 7, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'm really hoping they free up another spot so they can take someone in the Rule 5 tomorrow
a team with their level of payroll should have no reason not to try someone at league minimum +$50K transfer fee. Who else can we purge from the 40-man, Hamren or Cunningham?
TBD
I will admit my ignorance
on who is available in the Rule V tomorrow, but if we take them, we would have to have them as a ML or waive them. Is there anyone worth more then hanging on to one of those Porkers?
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depends who's available
i’m not totally well-versed, but you have to figure there is at least somebody out there worth a roster spot, even a bullpen guy where we are currently kind of thin. we don’t really have a lot to lose even if it means cunningham gets picked up by someone else. we have good priority in the draft too because of our record amirite?
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
hermida DFA'd
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/padres-designate-jeremy-hermida-for-assignment.html
i wonder if this is in response to Street or to clear rule V room
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
IIRC
we had 40 on the roster, so had to clear a spot for Street.
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So it still comes down to who is out there?
I honestly don’t know
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Hermida just got non-tendered.
I don’t know if that leaves an open spot or clears one for Street. The Padres main concern with the rule V is losing prospects, not picking them up.
It looks like they had to have an experienced closer to anchor the bullpen. That’s Bud’s philosophy, and I’d expect Gregerson, Frieri or Brach would settle into the 7th and 8th set up. The bullpen doesn’t look too bad if Bass and Moseley are in the mix. That, trading Leblanc, and letting Harang go means they’re expecting one or more of the prospects to fill out the rotation.
My guess is the two guys from the Rangers will get a shot in Spring Training. They both had no trouble transitioning to the Missions, and no sense letting them get shell-shocked in Tucson.
BTW, the PTBNL may well be Hudson. We can hope, anyway.
by wegotballsley on Dec 7, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
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i don't know why people are so down on moseley
he had injury problems last year but pitched well when health and budbot likes him. his peripherals were average but he profiles as the kind of pitcher that can consistently beat his peripherals a la matt cain.
i think you have to figure they give him another shot at the #5 spot out of spring training and it’ll be his to lose if he doesn’t pitch well or bass is beating down the door. this also lets the padres get bass some more bullpen work before easing him into the rotation a la stauffer and the lueb. and it keeps us from rushing erlin and weiland and starting their arb clocks early. as it is we have pretty good depth at the 5 spot for dealing with the inevitable injury or ineffectiveness.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 7, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
How do you profile as a pitcher who can consistently beat his peripherals?
Especially because Matt Cain is pretty much the only guy who has been able to do so.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 7, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Mark Buehrle too, and Tom Glavine
I’m sure there are others, but those were the two that came to mind. I think low strike out, low walk, high GB% guys seem to have the best chance of consistently having their ERA beat their FIP and XFIP. And Matt Cain.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
flyball guys work too
if they pitch in front of great defenses and huge parks. we basically end up with a lot of “beat the peripherals” guys not only because of petco and our defense but because budbot and ballsley coach guys into a strategy that takes advantage of those two factors. i.e. pound the zone, pitch to contact, use the cut fastball, etc.
given moseley’s cutter, lack of strikeouts/high GB%, he profiles as a budballs disciple. he could be useful out of the pen, but could potentially be another stauffer if things go right for him in the rotation.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 8, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
I'd keep him, put him in the pen as the long man.
You need 7 or 8 pitchers over the course of a season. So far we got, Latos, Stauffer, Richard, Luebke and Bass. Who’s next, Simon Castro? Naw, we need Moseley and another starting pitcher.
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Right
Especially because we don’t know how Richard will recover. Shoulder injuries are tricky things.
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by tonoxtono on Dec 8, 2011 2:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as we pay him by the inning, I'm okay with that.
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Pure salary dump by Rockies - Upside is all for the Padres
Looks more like a free agent signing than a trade – PTBNL is rumored to be a minor leager who is not Top-30 in Padres system
Padres get an established closer who will be better at PetCo than he was at Coors. Good deal for Padres as long as Street stays healthy and Hermida doesn’t end up comeback player of the year somewhere else (doubtful).
and even if Hermida does
what do you do. We picked him off the waiver wire, and he is what we have a ton of- an extra replacement level outfielder. If he somehow lights it up somewhere, no one could see it coming.
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by tonoxtono on Dec 7, 2011 2:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rockies fans are pissed
so it’s probably a good deal for SD. Sounds like they had a Street for Edison Volquez deal lined up and chose the PTBNL option. So yeah, simple salary dump.
TBD
This is a good move for the Padres.
And a better move for Byrnes. We might have in house options for closer, but this is a safer move. After what happened in Arizona, I think he wants to make damn sure a bad bullpen isn’t the reason his team sucks again.
Besides, were not getting the big bat we need if he’s going to insist on the “no 3 year deals” anyway. It’s a foolish self limitation based on the expectation of failure.
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The "No 3 Year Deals" thing is almost a smokescreen or something
None of the elite, difference making players are asking for as little as 3 years and even if they were, their yearly salary would price them out of the current payroll. The guys that are looking for that type of deal are the Cody Ross’, Raul Ibanez’, Ryan Ludwick’s, J.D. Drew’s of the free agency class. Players that you probably don’t want on your team in 2 years, let alone 3 years.
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by Wonko on Dec 7, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
how old would ibanez be at the end of 3 year deal?
55? is sabean sending his scouts over as we speak?
by iheartyourfart on Dec 8, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't hate this.
Street isn’t a bad closer, and he should be helped by being Petco’d. Don’t expect an All-Star bid from him, but he’ll do better than any of the young guys would.
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Latos, Stauffer, Maybin, Headley, possibly Street
and Maybe Jesus or Hundley are my candidates could turn in a first half worthy of consideration.
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My money is on Latos
He’s become a pretty recognizable name and definitely has the talent to put up all star numbers.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yea
It’s got to be Latos, hopefully he starts 2012 right were he left off with that dominating performance against the Cubs.
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by mrbarneydangles on Dec 7, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
We were talking about the MLB all star game
You’re right though, Rizzo is almost a lock to make the PCL all star team.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
i could see hundley in as a reserve
yadi is always a lock and has great name recognition. i don’t think he hits .288/.347/.477 again unless he happens to get really hot around the ASB, but .260/.330/.450 definitely seems possible.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 8, 2011 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
If Yadi is a lock
Then McCann must be a super lock.
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Street or another free agent
Honestly who is out there that the Padres could realistically sign. Their main needs are 2B, SS and an outfielder. The only good 2B left is Kelly Johnson. Rafael Furcal is the only good SS. Unless the Padres can unload Hudson or Bartlett I don’t see either of those two being signed. In the outfield I’d like to see them take a run at Carlos Beltran but he’s likely to be too expensive and probably wouldn’t play here anyway. That’s probably about it the would be a sensible upgrade on what they have.
So why not pick up Street? He makes the team better and I doubt that the $7m that they would save would go anywhere that would improve the team.
honestly i wouldn't be disappointed if they didn't bring in anyone else significant
if that meant locking up killa camzilla and K-tos
by iheartyourfart on Dec 8, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think those two things are related
Cam and Mat are being paid near the league minimum. Typically, when you give players like that extensions, they get modest raises up front with most of the money coming in later years.
For example, Adrian Gonzalez was going to get paid about $380K in 2007. They then signed him to an extension to buy out his arb years. They gave him a $500K signing bonus and the following salary structure:
2007:$0.5M, 2008:$0.75M, 2009:$3M, 2010:$4.75M, 2011:$5.5M club option (no buyout)
Similarly, with Troy Tulowitzki’s first extension he was going to make $380K in 2008 ,but got this:
2008:$0.75M,2009:$1M, 2010:$3.5M, 2011:$5.5M, 2012:$8.25M, 2013:$10M, 2014:$15M club option ($2M buyout)
His next extension didn’t change those $ it just add more for 2015-2021.
Jay Bruce is a more recent comp and he got a little more up front, be he was Super Two:
2011:$2.75M, 2012:$5M, 2013:$7.5M, 2014:$10M, 2015:$12M, 2016:$12.5M, 2017:$13M club option ($1M buyout)
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