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Padres acquire Carlos Quentin from White Sox

It's the morning of New Years Eve and my balls just dropped prematurely.


Carlos Quentin

#20 / Right Field / Chicago White Sox

6-2

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R

Eyes look: L

Aug 28, 1982



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Nice!

A good bat with SD roots and on the right side of 30.

by Smoove V on Dec 31, 2011 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

Plus, the Padres didnt lose anyone of significant value to them

It should put a little fear in the opposing pitchers.

~Chicks dig the BOOMSTICK~

by eastbaysd on Dec 31, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Whaaaaaaaaa!

A RH corner outfielder that’s hit 20+ HR over the last 4 years….I smell a rat!

"The Internet?! Is that thing still around?"

by Jsn L on Dec 31, 2011 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

If

he can stay healthy this is a huge pick up

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 11:26 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Is this some alternate reality?

The Padres just got a power hitting outfielder whose not over 30 and not a history of being injured?

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

Only injuries I'm seeing

Was a bout of plantar facitis in May 09

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Nevermind

Just found the shoulder injury. Nothing major though and he still hit over 20 HR despite it.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Hometown boy

Player with pop potential.

Marquee name.

This will get butts in seats for sure.

~Chicks dig the BOOMSTICK~

by eastbaysd on Dec 31, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't know if I'd say marquee name just yet

Based on responses at the Pads FB page. But they’ll get to know him…

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i tend to stay away from comments on the FB page

but it probably is agood indicator of the common fairweather fan reax

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by Nater Tater on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently, jbox needs a sling

for his little issue.

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by eastbaysd on Dec 31, 2011 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

There's a blue pill he take for his "little issue"

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Dec 31, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure that would fix his problem

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Dec 31, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

i like it a lot!

but what now about blanks? venable?

"...and never forget that until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,-Wait and hope."

by derntootin on Dec 31, 2011 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

Blansk is probably done

Venable, I think we keep around a while longer.

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Dec 31, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Blanks just came off of TJ surgery

last year

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably another good reason to dump him

If he’s only 25 and already having needed TJ surgery (and he’s not a pitcher)…

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

TJ surgery is a one time fix

and players often get better after coming back
I don’t care who gets the boot – but let them fight it out in ST

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

yes

"...and never forget that until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,-Wait and hope."

by derntootin on Dec 31, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If TJ surgery

also taught blanks how to hit a curveball I’d say lets go with him Quentin and Maybin if not lets keep looking

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Dec 31, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

ha....this

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

totally forgot about guzman

despite defensive questions, he proved he deserves a place in the SD lineup

"...and never forget that until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,-Wait and hope."

by derntootin on Dec 31, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Guzman in LF

Maybin in CF, Quentin in RF.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Budbot

has already said Quentin will be in LF.

Blanks, Venable, Guzman, Rizzo all seem to be potential pieces to trade for Middle Infield help..hopefully…

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by Nater Tater on Dec 31, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Rizzo

Starts in Aaa this year

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 1:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hope we keep Guzman. He's a solid hitter that we need.

But if any of the other 3 left I wouldn’t have a problem.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This was a "lower the payroll now" move

We gave them…. uhh… duds… for a starter.

Decent trade. Not complaining, but it reinforces the “rebuilding in 2012”.

by Zen Blade on Dec 31, 2011 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

How so?

So far every move we’ve made has not only made us better for the future, it’s made us better than 2011. Seems to me we’re rebuilding for 2012, not in 2012.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

nah, we traded Latos for youth

We grabbed a couple of 1 year players whose contracts will be off the books in 2013.
This is “we have to spend 50 million on payroll… how do we get there?”—-spending.

Castro was looking to be a busted prospect. And we sent nothing (much) to the Rockies for Street, who we may trade during the summer. And we may trade Quentin as well, if he is in demand. Sox and Rockies are dumping salary, we were in position to take on salary.

We may look decent in 2012, but this is a rebuilding move.

by Zen Blade on Dec 31, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What wouldn't qualify as a rebuilding move then?

Is Carlos Quentin projected to be AMAZING in 2015?

by Dex on Dec 31, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So wait, we're buying a bunch of quality players

Who in all likelihood won’t be on the roster in 2013 and this is a rebuilding move? Seems to me we’re building for 2012 and if they don’t work out we’ll dump them at the trade deadline and build for 2013. Not sure how you see that as not building for this year at this time though.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

My point

If the payroll is only 30-40 million, people will complain and it will be a PR nightmare.
So, they go out and get a couple of ~$7million for 1 year contracts. Boosts the payroll, hopefully improves us for this year, but provides cover for rebuilding.
For example: Adams and Latos trades; Letting Bell walk.

I don’t see these moves as “we are going to win in 2012”. I see these moves as “let’s throw our fans a couple of bones and focus on the future”. I would love to see us kick ass this year, but it’s hard for me to believe that is going to happen when we lose our best two relievers and our #1 starter (from last year).

by Zen Blade on Dec 31, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

yes, shame to trade away all those players

because the Padres were scary good last year and just needed a few upgrades to win the division

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't tell if this is sarcasm...

or if you’re busting on the NL West, or if you’re actually serious.

In any case… I’m glad Bell walked rather than picking up his salary, he nearly gave me a heart attack everytime he came in to save a game. With Street we are almost certainly guaranteed to get an upgrade over Bell’s closer song.

As for the Latos trade. meh. We got a coupla major league ready upgrades at positions that we need i.e. first base and Boxberger might be able to step into the bullpen

by ZaTrain on Jan 1, 2012 6:50 AM PST up reply actions  

you might need one of these

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Jan 1, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how the BS can range from REALLY negative to a little bit positive.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Jan 1, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's what worries me

He’s a streaky hitter, and he’s playing in a place where guys who it for power go to die. This could either work well for us, or this could be Ryan Ludwick part Deux.

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Dec 31, 2011 11:41 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

non-streaky hitters with 30+ hrs

are $20 mil a year
There is no downside to this move

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well the downside is we give up 6 years of 2 decent pitching prospects

While Castro and Hernandez were not top prospects it is likely their combined value over the next 7 years is more than Quentin’s value next year.

I do think it makes us better in 2012, hopefully that matters. Hopefully with it being a contract year Quentin plays well enough the first half that we could trade him at the deadline if we are out of it.

by Antonio Olivares on Dec 31, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's what I'm worried about

This is a guy with proven success, under 30 years old, that’s now on the Padres, with nothing to indicate that he’s not a great player.

I’m really worried about ummmm….. Injury risk? No that was Bartlett. Past his prime? No that was every signing whose names I recognize. Too young? No that’s every signing who’s names I DON’T recognize.

This is a great move.

by Dex on Dec 31, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Worried

about your dry cleaning bill?

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Dec 31, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

What's his contact look like?

Does this move make the payroll begin with a five?

by EC_padsfan on Dec 31, 2011 12:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I beleive he's making 5.0

Slated to get 7.5 in arb.

~Chicks dig the BOOMSTICK~

by eastbaysd on Dec 31, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

At least people (Hacksaw) won't be able to use the "Oaklandization" line anymore

The A’s payroll is currently down to 23 million. We’re at least double that now if not more.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Oakland's payroll is projected to be around $36 million, barring more trades

Rookies and other non-arby guys get paid too. Cots doesn’t factor in those salaries until the start of the season.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Dec 31, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Point still stands

If we’re up in the 50 mil+ range.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Not arguing the point

Just offering a more accurate number.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Dec 31, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

a quote from bleacher report

“But Quentin’s not the kind of hitter that’s going to have a lot of success hitting in San Diego. He’s a career .252 hitter, and even those numbers are skewed by one .288 season. He’s also never played more than 131 games in a season. Lastly, Quentin’s home stadiums have always been hitter-friendly parks. That’s no longer the case.”

i usually take their writing with a grain of salt, but this makes me think…

"...and never forget that until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,-Wait and hope."

by derntootin on Dec 31, 2011 12:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Meh

It’s bleacher report.

by athletics68 on Dec 31, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

How many slides did you have to go through to get that analysis?

I usually give up after 3 slides of a 56 slide article.

by Dex on Dec 31, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

ha!

no slides. it’s just a front page article, but i know what you mean

"...and never forget that until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,-Wait and hope."

by derntootin on Dec 31, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I am okay with the move

I have watched quite a few White Sox games and Quentin is a solid player when he is on the field. He always seems to miss a decent chunk of time with nagging injuries over the course of the year.

I do like Quentin’s bat. He has the type of power that will play at Petco. He doesn’t strike out a ton, but he never carries a high average because he never carries a high BABIP. Partly because he’s a slow runner. He also seems to hit a lot of fly balls.

His fielding is very bad though. I didn’t watch many White Sox games last year so I’m not sure if his fielding actually improved, but his horrible UZR’s in 09 and 2010 were legit.

All in all I imagine he’s somewhere between a 2-3 WAR player if he stays mostly healthy. Which I think Blanks could definitely do, or even Venable. The biggest thing is probably the fact that Quentin’s a relatively proven player compared to other options there. Plus it puts us in that $50M range.

by Antonio Olivares on Dec 31, 2011 1:03 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Quentin in LF, Venable in RF

We are probably okay for fielding since Maybin will be in CF.
If Quentin is RF… I think we will have troubles defensively.

by Zen Blade on Dec 31, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually the more I think about it the less I like the move

We didn’t give up a ton, but Castro and Hernandez should both make it to the big leagues. If just one of them ends up making it as a starter rather than a reliever then 6 years of them is much more valuable than Quentin.

Plus, with the Padres current pitching staff they can’t be expecting to actually compete in 2012. With that being the case, I think I would rather give Blanks/Guzman as many starts as possible to let them audition for starting gigs in 2013. I imagine if we didn’t pick up Quentin and just rolled with Blanks/Guzman in LF we would get about the same production from that spot. Though Quentin is a safer bet, I don’t know if we should be going with the safest bet in 2012.

by Antonio Olivares on Dec 31, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Love this

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Dec 31, 2011 2:11 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

He is a hot mess

OMG!

~Chicks dig the BOOMSTICK~

by eastbaysd on Jan 1, 2012 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't like it

He’s a deadpull hitter. According to his spray chart, he only managed 6 HRs at the Cell last year. If he can’t hit home runs at US Cellular Field, he’ll be Mr. Warning Path at Petco this year. It’s the second coming of Ludwick.

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by StrangeBroP25 on Dec 31, 2011 2:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

From watching him play, I think he's capable of hitting 25-30 HR's here

I bet he hits 25+ HRs if he plays 150 games. Though more likely he’ll play 120 games and hit 20 HRs. Or even more likely than that he’ll play 60 games, hit 12 HRs and be traded at the deadline.

by Antonio Olivares on Dec 31, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you think we can get for him?

Yakety Sax: Making divisional matchups hilarious since 1963.
Gaslamp Ball: SMELLS LIKE PROSPECTS IN HERE

Please, call me StrangeBro.

by StrangeBroP25 on Dec 31, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

cashews...preferably

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Dec 31, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I like the move

it gives us someone to watch hit for 2012 (and I think from a PR perspective the Padres really needed to make a move like this to quell fan unrest somewhat) and while Quentin’s production will be short-lived, the farm depth makes it unlikely that Castro or Hernandez were long-term answers for anything either.

by abara on Dec 31, 2011 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

The Division is winnable folks.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Dec 31, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Hometown guy from Chula

Getting a legitimate right hand pull power hitter on the cheap, which is the only way we’d get one other than an Alonzo, makes Headley, Hundley and every other bat better and takes away some of pressure on pitchers. he’s a character guy, Kotsay can’t do it alone. Another year of praying on blanks and venable is futile, maybe doable as platoon. Defensive liability but not negative bat speed like Ludwick, shoot in NL West he’s just below Kemp, Cargo and Upton. if Alonzo hits and head and hund stay healthy, enough to win some games. Guzman plays LF versus some lefties.

Thoughts? "I have none. If there are any other developments, we will let you know." Charger GM - AJ Smith.

by bringbackbuddytrees on Dec 31, 2011 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

oh...

i almost forgot about that Kotsay dude…

by ZaTrain on Jan 1, 2012 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

yeahhh boyyyy

stash blanks in AAA and bring him up if we get injuries or use him as trade bait. Quentin hits the ball hard. no reason to lament this move.

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