Padres Reliever Picture
The Padres have a strong and rich tradition of having dominant closers from Hall of Famer Goose Gossage through Cy Young Award Winner Mark Davis and of course most recently, second All-Time Saves Leader, Trevor Hoffman and his replacement, three-time All-Star, Heath Bell. Going from the PEN-i-tentiary to the Octopus Arms.
Brad Boxberger - A former supplemental pick out of USC. Starter turned reliever as a part of the Latos deal. Throws in the low to mid 90s but has three other quality pitches may be the longer term candidate. Projection: 8th Inning specialist in 2013?
Brad Brach- Has led three levels in saves, a little old for his league but consistently misses bats and has a 10+ strikeout ratio. Doesn't seem to be trusted to be the future closer but should figure into the equation given his stats and his closer role in A, AA, AAA. 6-7th inning speciality in 2013.
Anthony Bass - Surprisingly effective as a spot starter last year. He has a mid-90s fastball but it is very straight. Probably will get a chance to nab the 5th starter spot with Wade LeBlanc being traded but given his limited pitch repertoire seen as a reliever by some. Long reliever, spot starter by 2013?
Joe Thatcher - The oft-injured left-hander with the 3/4 motion. Came back from a major injury but strikeout ratio went way down from 12 in 2010 to 7 in 2011. Has propensity for giving up a lot of fly balls and long balls, so Petco might be his best fit. Situational lefty if can remain healthy in 2012, probably traded at some point.
Josh Spence - The fast-rising reliever out of Arizona State who was the first player to reach the majors out of the 2010 draft when he was called up straight out of Double-A. Not a thrower topping out at 87 but a pitcher who mixes speeds and knows how to keep hitters off-balance with his above average slider and changeup. Started off virtually unhittable but either the scouting reports or his own confidence seemed to catch up with him toward the end of the year. If regains his form, 7th or 8th inning specialist.
Cory Burns - Models his pitching motion after Hideo Nomo. Doesn't have the mid-90s fastball but know how to pitch with deception. Worry that deception won't translate above AA but Padres like the deception angle as evidenced by Cla Meredith and Pat Neshek. Hopefully he will be more successful. 7th inning specialist.
Miles Mikolas - the potential closer of the future is still probably at least two years away. He has the high 90s fastball along with a big curve and an intimidating 6'5'' frame. Not to mention, he has been known to eat live lizards which satisfies the closer zaniness requirement. Closer 2013?
Ernesto Frieri- Still has an above 10 strikeout rate but does give up a lot of flyballs. Has a closer swagger and throws in low to mid 90s. Will be 7th or 8th inning guy in 2012?
Luke Gregorsen - didn't really seem the same last year before or after the injury. Went from close to a 11 K/9 strikeout rate to 6 and seemed to struggle with his money pitch, the devastating slider. Wasn't the kind of progression you want to elevate him to closer unlike the buzz two years ago when his slider was unhittable. Hopefully it is the injury and he regains his form although he relies so much on his slider. I have feeling we may sell high with him either way. Traded in 2012?
Huston Street (assumed closer) - Doesn't really make a lot of sense to allow your lone All-Star Heath Bell walk supposedly because he was asking for too much money and then give the same amount ($7 M per) to a guy who was being shopped. Heath definitely seemed to be regressing last year in giving up long balls, and was obviously aided by Petco. Yes, the Padres didn't want to give three years and Street's is for two but really? Although I like the future trade chip theory. Traded by trade deadline in 2012.
I really have no idea. Thoughts?
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i think we are in good shape
but i won’t be surprised if we added more pieces in january. that’s typically when we take our spring training bullpen fliers.
I bet they spend a decent chunk of change on a reliever
They need to get to $50M some how, right? I don’t know where else they would spend money. Unless they trade for someone that is making a fair amount in 2012.
Maybe they sign Oviedo if he gets his visa or whatever. Maybe Wheeler or Lidge.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 25, 2011 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yes and no.
He’s still a top-shelf closer, but won’t be for much longer. His decline is likely to be exacerbated by removing the Petco Effect, and also he wasn’t in great shape (unless you define “round” as a shape).
I like Huston Street as our closer, though. He’s got good stuff, and he’ll be helped out by the big outfield. He’s still presumed a rental until something happens to cause otherwise (one of our call-ups gets hurt, or we’re in contention at the deadline and don’t want to sell).
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by StrangeBroP25 on Dec 25, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I like Street as a rental
and the Padres gain draft picks on both ends of this deal (I think)
Hoyer’s strategy of loading up on draft picks is a winner
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
Unlikely they get draft picks from Street
Under the new CBA he would have to be offered and turn down a contract worth some where around $12M for 2013. Which is very unlikely.
He should still be a valuable closer for a few months and probably pretty good trade bait at the deadline though.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 25, 2011 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
I think that'll prove to be just a technicality
and lead to a bunch of “gentleman’s agreements” to get offered that and decline.
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by TheThinGwynn on Dec 26, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Teams that sign those players will have to give up draft picks though
Which will hurt the player’s value on the free agent market. So you probably won’t see gentleman’s agreements like you do now with the type B guys.
I doubt players will turn down those contracts unless they are pretty sure they can get a multi-year deal worth $10M/yr+.
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 26, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
A guy like Street, may decline since he is young.
However, with the amount of cash being thrown around these last few weeks the 125 top player average may push it to 13-14 mil, as it was in 2011 12.5m.
I doubt a young player would decline that kind of cash. Thus would not agree to anything unless they think they can get a multi-year deal from a team willing to lose draftpicks.
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Yeah for the next CBA that's going to be a big issue
The contracts and indeed franchise cost/values have definitely moved into the realms of the absurd. Competitive balance is just going to get worse and worse.
So now you're wanting the Padres to employ gentlemen
When will your demands cease, this isn’t cricket you know ;-)
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Both points are spot on
Heath was a great guy and still a very effective pitcher, but his effectiveness was dropping and he wanted too long of a contract. Street is a tad bit cheaper and is still in a great place in terms of his play. And he didn’t want a long contract.
Can't blame either side
Heath needed to cash in now. And seeing how his career progressed, unrecruited for college, unwanted in the draft, an also-ran for the Mets, he deserved to get a big payout.
His agent realized that, probably got him his max value, and we have to move on.
Wish him the best.
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by TheAxManCometh on Dec 28, 2011 12:11 PM PST reply actions
street, gregerson, frieri, thatcher
is a pretty great back end, potentially. with bass, brach, burns, spence, and mikolas in the mix. It’s not heavy on names but those guys all have excellent track records so far in their careers and they’ve got the stuff and makeup to succeed. burns, brach, and mikolas are particularly high-upside guys as well (i think bass ends up in the rotation somewhere and spence as a LOOGY). i’m not particularly disappointed that we haven’t signed any marginal free agent relievers yet. besides those guys tend to be january signings anyway.
by iheartyourfart on Dec 28, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
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expect to see him in the Stauffer/Luebke/Bass role this year
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I expect Bass in the stauffer/lueb spot this year
unless one of them kills it in ST, i bet they let moze get the 5th spot (assuming clay is ready) for a while. he pitched really well at times last year and his overall line is pretty good. If he isn’t pitching great as the season progresses i bet him and bass switch roles. injuries notwithstanding.
by iheartyourfart on Jan 1, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions

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