Mat Latos traded to the Reds

But… but… I love him!

Still don’t see the value in this. We traded our ACE for a historically inconsistent pitcher, another catcher we don’t need, a reliever we don’t need, and a first baseman who’s crap that we don’t need.

I don’t know what to think about this. Time will tell, I guess.

According to some MLB execs Rosenthal has interviewed. Explains getting the youngish 1B in this trade. Rizzo’s days as a Padres, Tucson or San Diego, appear numbered.

Hmmm…. too bad you can’t use proper names in Scrabble, these guys would KILL with a triple word score.

And I think the Padres were worried about Latos long-term outlook with his maturity issues. I think they might have thought that he will be his own worst enemy in the future. But you can also look at that as passion, so we’ll see how he does with the Reds.

I mean… when do they want this team to build for a run????

Byrnes reign = Rebuild 2.0

He better have a VERY VERY good explanation for this. We traded a cheap ACE PITCHER… for… a bat? I don’t even know….
I mean, just what the fuck?
I just don’t see the logic behind this, and I hope I am missing something. Because it seems we just traded away our best pitcher for another young bat that may or may not pan out in PETCO…

As I said in the other one, I expect one of our 1b prospects to be flipped now…otherwise this move makes little sense.

But with all deals, we have to see how these four guys pan out. We got one MLB starting pitcher and three of the Reds’ top ten prospects. So, cross your fingers that Byrnes has the magic. I am not ready to say this was a mistake.

But true we still don’t have a classic ace-pitcher or ace prospect. Hopefully if our rotation develops 2-through-5 guys that stack up well against everyone else’s 2-5 we can still do well. Again, not ready to hate this deal. I remember the initial response to the trade for Hoffman.

Mat has to pitch in the Great American Smallpark and the Missus has to deal with hillbillies anytime she steps out the front door. I’m not sure how this affects Balls but I’m sure he’ll be wagging his tail a lot less.

that’s all there’s left to do (wish Mat well, not drink all day…well, okay, I guess I could do that too).

This sucks. Latos is my favorite player on the Padres. We did get a really good haul though. Volquez should do great in Petco and the youngsters all have great potential.

Still a head scratcher though. At some point we have to keep our young stars. Looks like my theory of buying a Latos jersey two years ago because he would be on the team for 5+ years didn’t work out too well.

I’m bummed.

I am a Reds fan who follows the farm system closely. I just wanted to drop by and say that I understand how you feel right now. But I promise you, Grandel, Boxy, and Yonder is a very big haul. They could all make the team out of spring training. I think you will like this trade sooner than you think.

Boxberger is the only one I hate to see go, because he has nasty stuff and will be an all-star type closer. I do not think that Yonder is an all-star caliber player unless he gets an easy-in on a bad team. I don’t think he will ever hit more than 20-25 HRs in SD. I am not a fan of Grandal as I would rather have Mesoraco, but he is also a nice prospect at catcher that can hit. If Volquez Arm holds up then I would say you got a good deal but I am not sure that his arm will, he is still all over the place and its been some time. He has control issues before he had TJS.

If nothing else at least there will be entertainment in hearing you guys continually defend management on this one. Go Josh Byrnes! !!

It could turn out to be a great deal, but we’re looking at 3 solid prospects that would need to mature into solid contributors to balance out Latos (assuming solid 1/2-type pitcher, which he clearly is). I don’t know that we have anyone in our system who projects to be a #1/2—type pitcher. We have a bunch of 2/3/4-type pitchers… but to win in the postseason, you need those #1 and #2 pitchers.

I also don’t like this move b/c it says 2012 is a “forfeit” year. “Ownership” thinks nothing good is going to happen this year. Otherwise you don’t move your best pitcher for a #4 starter and 3 prospects, one of whom is ready to compete with TWO of our prospects for a single position….
So, what about 2013? Well, given where all of the players involved in this trade are… We will be down an ace starter and probably have the same quality young 1B that we do now, maybe a bit better. So, 2013 seems like it was just shot in the leg. I don’t see the catching prospect out competing Hundley in 2013 (unless the prospect does really well and Hundley falters).

So, I guess we might be good in 2014 if all of our prospects everywhere pan out…? But by then most of our current young core will by in year 3 of arbitration or a free agent….

So, great…. we get to wait a few more years. We get to rebuild the rebuilding process.

They did not come in last due to bad luck or the maturation process. They came in last due to a lack of talent. I don’t have any issue with blowing it up.

This was a good deal for the Padres.

Do the Padres have any pitching left now? Ugh, I am very displeased. If Alonso was such a big deal for the Reds why has he been constantly discussed in trade rumors since the middle of this past season? Meh.

Because that’s what it comes down to if we don’t want to repeat last year’s bed-crapping.

Personally I’d be happy to trade Rizzo/Blanks/some sort of pitching for Howie Kendrick or perhaps Ben Zobrist. Angels and Rays need a DH, right?