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The Gaslamp Ball Rationale for our vote in the SB Nation Baseball Awards

There are some who are critical of the way that Gaslamp Ball handles the SB Nation Awards voting. Some people think we're idiots. Some thing that we don't care because we let a non-site manager vote for us. Others think that our methods reveals a lack of talent as baseball writers, which of course is ridiculous, because we've never claimed to be "baseball writers".

I'll explain our thinking, but first... Why even have a SB Nation Awards separate from the traditional awards?

The fact that the BBWAA are allowed to vote subjectively for things like the Cy Young award, the MVP, etc is a beautiful ridiculous part of baseball. Arguments always abound about who's "truly" deserving or not deserving of the awards. There are almost as many arguments about who's "truly" deserving or not deserving of even having a vote in the awards. There are many talented baseball writers who don't get a vote because they write primarily on the internet. There are many more untalented baseball writers who DO get a vote because they happen to write for some dinosaur newspaper that can barely afford to send them to the baseball games of the teams that they do cover, much less encourage them to put out any effort in covering teams that fall outside of their media market.

It's a messed up system that, more often than not, still manages to get it "right".

So, how would you "fix" such a thing?

In our humble opinion, any subjectivity that you wish to eliminate from voting professional baseball writers is not accomplished by leaving votes up to baseball bloggers. With baseball bloggers, you potentially introduce more subjectivity in four ways:

1. Baseball bloggers who want to credit players, not for their accomplishments on the field, but for other irrelevant accomplishments, such as really really liking a guy. Keep in mind that this is some of the same subjectivity that appears with traditional baseball writers. I would admit to this.

2. Baseball bloggers who want to be "smart" baseball writers and therefore vote, not according to ridiculous metrics such as Wins or ERA, but according to "smart" metrics like WAR or whatever other smart metrics get used by Bill James or Baseball Prospectus. In other words, baseball bloggers who want to completely remove subjectivity by being totally "objective" according to a subjective judgment of what metrics are most objective.

My opinion on that? If four different sites calculate WAR four different ways: F_ck WAR. In many ways that makes it worse than ERA or Wins. Have an opinion, robots! (Note: I'm not calling out any of our fellow SB Nation writers as robots. Love my peeps.) 

3. Baseball bloggers who are fans of a single team and therefore pay minimal attention to the other teams in the league. This is the East Coast Bias in effect at a granular level. I'm not paid to watch baseball. I have a day job. I watch MY team and rarely watch anybody else. I fully admit to this. Does it make you a better fan because you watched every single baseball game this season, regardless of who played? I guess so. Also makes you a damn liar.

But you know what? Even if you are a "better", more knowledgeable fan, we have a vote and you don't. Am I less qualified to vote than somebody who doesn't have an SB Nation blog? No. I'm exactly qualified to vote in the SB Nation Awards because the qualification is HAVING an SB Nation blog. Sorry.

4. Baseball bloggers who are such big fans of a single team and who own their team rivalries SO much that they are completely willing to vote from the heart and say, "I have no other reason to not give this guy credit for his accomplishments other than I actively do not like the team he plays for."

This fourth thing is what happened with Clayton Kershaw. Managers and coaches can lie all they want about the truly stupid ways that they give out Gold Gloves. Writers can pretend like they know soooooo much more about baseball and therefore don't really need to look at stats to determine who wins Rookie of the Year. These guys are forced to lie and pretend that what they do is rational. That's what happens because they're being held to standards that you hold managers and coaches and writers to.

You know what standard I'm held to? I have an SB Nation blog and I am a fan of the Padres. You know what that means? I f_cking hate the Dodgers. You know what that means don't you? Oops. 5th place vote Clayton Kershaw?

BUT WHHHHYYYYYYYYYY???? HE WAS SOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOD.

Yep. Probably the best pitcher in the NL. And OOPS. He's a Dodger.

I f_cking hate the Dodgers.

Done and done. Requirement for casting an SB Nation vote: Rationality? Sure. My rationality for that is that we root for the Padres and we hate the Dodgers.

That said, I actually didn't cast that ballot. We let one of our favorite contributors cast our vote, but you know what?

She f_cking hates the Dodgers too. So there's that.

What... You don't really think that stuff like that doesn't happen to the BBWAA do you? How else do you explain some of the crazy choices they've made? I'm pretty sure there are dudes who let their kids vote or who vote because they happened to meet one of the players who made a good impression or bad impression or whatever.

All that said, if it were up to us, and it really isn't up to us, a more interesting argument could be made that we're voting on the wrong things entirely. If we really wanted this award to be given to the player who (objectively) is the best pitcher of the season, then what we should be arguing about is which metrics are most correlated with greatness. Is it WAR? If so, who's calculation? Is it some combination of metrics?  Which ones and how do we combine them?

Until we get to that point, then we will happily admit that we're not baseball writers. We are not robots. We are not wannabe baseball writing robots. We are completely biased, consciously lackadaisical, admittedly incompetent, irrational judges of baseball talent.

If you don't like it, argue about it same as you would the real Cy Young Award and everybody's happy.

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The funny thing is

I didn’t even realize you guys voted in the SBNation Awards. Of course, it would make no sense if you didn’t.

Where in the world is Khalil?

by TheVinylCrocodile on Nov 10, 2011 9:20 PM PST reply actions  

Visitor from Halos Heaven

And I’m in full agreement.

P.S. Go Bud Black!

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Nov 11, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Purple Rowbot...

And SDSU Aztec.

Well played, sirs and madam!

There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.

by Since1993 on Nov 15, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys

make the BBWAA look like adults. Kudos, I didn’t know that was possible.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Nov 11, 2011 12:06 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

Thanks, we do our best.

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Nov 11, 2011 2:14 AM PST up reply actions  

We only need to count to five

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Big black woman's archery association?

The hell are you talking about?

"When you find your way. Then you see it disappear."

by padmadfan on Nov 11, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Are you f-ing serious with that post?

What are you guys, 12 years old? No wonder no one posts here.

by Jack Huber on Nov 11, 2011 4:41 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

HAHA

Big Sexy

Follow KBR and Dewey on Twitter! @KBRandDewey

by King Billy Royal on Nov 13, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Where did I not sound serious?

Even though I criticize it, by Wins Above Replacement, Roy Halliday should have won the award outright. If anything, Phillies fans should be upset that some also-ran split the award with the best pitcher in the National League.

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 6:49 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

+1

why vote if you aren’t going to vote based on how a pitcher or hitter, both Dodgers, performed on the field?

Ray Guilfoyle
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 7:28 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

They are Dodgers,

The only way they perform on the field is douchey. This is science Ray, simple, science.

Padres Fan.

by MrDanielX on Nov 11, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

makes sense

not

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

this

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Nov 11, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

But if Kershaw didn't get that 5th place vote

Wouldn’t he have just lost outright? What you should be saying is “Thank you for making Kershaw somewhat relevant in the land of the world wide web by making your vote.”

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 11, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

no

if he was given at vote higher than 5th, he would have WON.

This “rationale” article still doesn;t explain how the 5th place vote was arrived at, or how 4 other pitchers had a better year than Kershaw.

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

But, the person who I posted the reply to asked why we even voted in the first place.

Had there been no vote at all or not even a Kershaw vote, wouldn’t he LOSE?

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 11, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope

Not voting at all = Kershaw wins. Take away both Kershaw and Halladay votes from the one SD ballot. #Math

by Xeifrank on Nov 11, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He's saying that we could have excluded Kershaw from the vote

and he would have lost instead of tied. Plug that scenario into a Sim and see how it unfolds.

by jbox on Nov 11, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Had there been no vote at all or not even a Kershaw vote,

Looks like he was asking about both to me
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No vote at all = not casting a ballot. esp when he added the or not even a Kershaw vote to the sentence.

by Xeifrank on Nov 11, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

If I was asking about both, why'd you just comment about one option?

Am I not right that by voting for anyone other than Kershaw for that vote that he would in fact lose or is my math still bad?

If so, I guess we missed our opportunity to give Josh Spence a taste of internet glory with a 5th place vote.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 11, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Math

1. Vote, but no vote for Kershaw equals Kershaw comes in 2nd.
2. Don’t vote at all means Kershaw wins.

Pretty obvious, no?

by Xeifrank on Nov 11, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It is obvious.

I was right to begin with. You should be thanking us.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

For me

a Dbacks fan, the Giants uniform beats out the Dodgers uniform slightly, but why split hairs?

Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!

by imstillhungry95 on Nov 11, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that

the aricle did explain how the 5th place vote was arrived at and addressed that Kershaw may have had a better year than everyone else in baseball.

Answer #1:
They hate the Dodgers

Answer #2:
They haven’t stopped hating the Dodgers

Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!

by imstillhungry95 on Nov 11, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

What's your definition of "Best"?

The vote was based on performance on the field. The definition of “best” is “Of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality.” On the field, Clayton Kershaw is a Dodger and AS A PADRES FAN, simply being a Dodger is an undesirable QUALITY.

Qualities are SUBJECTIVE. Quantities are OBJECTIVE.

If somebody wanted us to vote based on the quantities, then we certainly didn’t get that email.

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

then

don’t vote…..really ridiculous reasoning in my opinion. You’re too biased to even know who had a good year and who didn’t.
Either that or you are making a mockery of the SB Nation awards, which is ashame, since they are the network you write for. Sorry, I just think the awards should be taken seriously. I did.
You are belittling the bloggers on the network by your disregard for a network award.

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.minorleagueball.com
www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

need a recount

how did a Dodger get typed in.
Every time I start to write a Dodger’s name in something other than an insult or ransom note, I start to get the shakes and have a seizure.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Nov 13, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Long but eventual lame and juvenile rationalization.

At some point there is a delimiting line between being a homer and objective writing. If this was a blog on blogger world then I could get behind your reasoning but you are part of the SB Nation community of major league baseball bloggers. I don’t really care that Kershaw did not win this award, three pitchers could make a claim to it.

As a SBNation blogger I was initially disappointed you didn’t take the voting seriously enough to do it yourself. Yet now that I know that even some of the SB Nation baseball editors didn’t even bother to vote, my only disappointment is that I wasted my own time trying to fill out the ballots.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 11, 2011 8:39 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

If they were really as curious as they claim to be

they always could have emailed and asked for some rationale before flaming us.

by jbox on Nov 11, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Dodger fan here

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

sorta

like the Padres chances when Kershaw is on the mound, I get it.

Ray Guilfoyle
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

This doesn't make sense.

The Padres chances go over your head when Kershaw is on the mound?

by jodes0405 on Nov 11, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Obviously, you have never visited Lone Star Ball...

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Nov 17, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

juvenile? Probbably.

But by definition…a fanatic is “a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, esp. for an extreme religious or political cause”. Gaslampball is a fan blog. To be a fan, one must be juvenile. Being juvenile is fun. I can get boring stick-in-the-mud factual commentary and news elsewhere.

The gaslampball mission statement begins with the following: “Make Gaslamp Ball the online equivalent of hanging out with two hot chicks at a baseball game who actually know more about baseball than you’d expect two hot chicks to know.” I think they are adhering to that mission statement.

by kevintheoman on Nov 11, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

You seem pretty invested in a fake award.

Did your mommy never put one of those “My child is an honor student at Crybaby Elementary” bumper stickers on her car?

by Darklighter on Nov 11, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Yes, I did, though I wish I could get those 30 seconds back.

And what I’m saying is that you’re all getting pretty goddamn bent out of shape over the Fake Cy Young Award. Have you been taking lessons on whining from Cubs fans?

by Darklighter on Nov 11, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Have The Padres Been Taking Lessons

From the Cubs on how to field a winning team?

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

When was the last time the doggers had an NL championship?

A dogger fan using the “SCOREBOARD!” argument is pretty damn comical.

by kevintheoman on Nov 11, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

amazing commentary

Ray Guilfoyle
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Have you ever read this blog before?

Don’t take this stuff so seriously. Work on that world peace thing or something.

What I need is an electric monk

by Boilermaker19 on Nov 11, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

thanks…..I, for one, took the awards seriously. Go work on taking the network award seriously

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Why?

No, seriously, why? It’s not the actual Cy Young Award. There’s no trophy. Nobody’s going to be looking at this when Kershaw’s name comes up on the Hall of Fame ballot. Some writers didn’t even care enough about it to bother voting. It’s totally meaningless. You’re getting your panties in a bunch over what fans of other teams think about your team.

by Darklighter on Nov 11, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Asking a Doyer fan not to bash someone?

Good luck with that. (too soon?)
BTW if SBNation set up the rules to make it so you had to vote by some stat or metric why even hold a vote? Just give it to the guy with the best stats. Doyer fans are acting like children that didn’t get their way. Their guy lost (well…tied) and now they’re crying about it.

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Nov 11, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I've been holding back comments about Bryan Stow all day.

Thanks for keeping me from being the first one to break.

by Darklighter on Nov 11, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Clearly

You meant to write " I AM NOT A GOOD OR INTELLIGENT WRITER". Common mistake for someone of your quality, it would seem.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Haven't you ever met a doyer fan?

Name calling is their “thing.”

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Nov 11, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

We have very clear rules against name calling on Gaslamp Ball. As an SB Nation writer I expect you to respect those rules.

by jbox on Nov 11, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Do you also have rules

On mandating intelligent discourse and the ability to write an article with facts? That might be of a higher priority, just by the by.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

why does that have to be higher priority? why cant we just have fun on here?

Jbox and Dex didnt set out to become “writers”. They are two fans, who made a blog to share their fandom with other Padres fans. Sports Nation invited them to there network , either because of or inspite of, that fact. I respect that other blogs on the network take everything very seriously. We don’t. And we like it that way. We enjoy the company of each other, and being..fans, with aplace to express our views. Don’t like it? You don’t have to come here.

Scowling at Padres Losses since 1981

by Nater Tater on Nov 12, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That's not even a sentence.

www.FriarsOnCardboard.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

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by sdchicken on Nov 11, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Ok, this one was good

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Kershaw's beard would point towards a Farmville bonus

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 11, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

In Actuality....

Your inability to coherently and intelligently defend your vote draws more ire than the vote itself. Bloggers criticize baseball writers who vote all the time for unintelligent decisions which don’t make use of the mounds of available and excellent statistics that they have at their disposal. This vote should serve as a further example that bloggers are a step ahead of the stuck-in-the-past writers, but it simply falls in lock-step with them.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

several of these words have too many syllables.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Nov 11, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

IJALA

So hard.

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by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

No....

You defended your right to make a mockery of the voting process. Defending your vote would involve analysis of why you believe Kershaw was the fifth best pitcher. And if you do believe he pitched like the fifth best in the NL, that’s fine. I disagree, but I always support intelligent debate. You, on the other hand, copped out and played the “I hate his team so he’s automatically terrible because a Dodger can’t possibly be good” card.

And for the record, I had a vote in the IBWAA, and Kershaw got my second-place vote, which was defended using analysis and reason. So I’m not some irrational Dodgers fan who can’t stomach my guy not winning any award, even an “imaginary one”, as you see it.

In the end though, all of us Dodgers fans still get to say we have Kemp and Kershaw on our team, so if it makes you feel better to act like a twelve-year-old who didn’t get candy or the latest toy, feel free to do so. We have something called the core of a team which gives us a fighting chance each and every game. I’m guessing all you have is this outlet to demean true writing and analysis. So enjoy it my friend. Enjoy it.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

A mockery of the voting process?

It was a mockery the moment they called it the SBNation Cy Young Award.

by Darklighter on Nov 11, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

Bleacher Report awaits you

have at it

Ray Guilfoyle
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What's with all the "12 year old" stuf?

It’s a common thread that people who didn’t like this refer to us as 12 year olds. Why not 11 or 13?

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Because

I would imagine those that are 11 and 13 can defend their arguments with facts….

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

By why not 12?

Isn’t that subjective? Is its a fact that 11 and 13 year olds can defend arguments with facts, but 12 year olds are mentally incapable?

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

it's a fact....

you are incapable of defending an argument with facts. this article proved that quite conclusively.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

everything he stated was a fact

I don’t think there was a single thing in Dex’s post that wasn’t a fact:

Fact:
He hates dodgers
Fact:
he gave his vote to some one who hates dodgers…

Fact;
Feelings towards the dodger affected his vote.

Fact:
KempKershaw is using “fact” wrong.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Nov 13, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Factual.

www.FriarsOnCardboard.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Nov 11, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Funny you should ask

The IBWAA includes intelligent writers. That’s the number one criteria, hence why you guys are absent.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I bet I'm smarter than you

Pick an objective measurement.

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Baseball Analysis

Oh look, you already failed with your 5th place vote for Kershaw and 5th place vote for Kemp for MVP. Better luck next time kiddo.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Utilizing the best statistics....

Baseball analysis is fairly objective. Again, you used no facts in voting. Simple as that. Oh, and considering this is a baseball site (it at least claims to be), I think baseball analysis is a fine measurement.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm only 11

But isn’t this the place where someone should say ‘pawned’? Cause one person (going by the name of Dex) is reading and making rational points based on that, and the other person is showing an inability to process information that goes against their beliefs.

queen of the rec fairies
although it broke our hearts it did not break our will the herd

by Aussie fan on Nov 12, 2011 3:34 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

intelligent writing is the number one criteria for IBWAA?
All Internet baseball writers are welcome. Those with his or her own baseball website of any kind or scope are invited to join, as are those who contribute the written word anywhere within the baseball blogosphere.

I never heard of this “organization” until today. It’s ridiculous. “We don’t have any power or actually do anything….but give us $10 and you can vote on our worthless awards”. I can’t believe someone actually paid $10 to this very poorly executed scam.

I also like the part where they say they are going to register a domain in the future….and haven’t. I kinda want to pay the $15 (or whatever ridiculously cheap fee it is these days) and register that domain name just to spite this guy.

by kevintheoman on Nov 11, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Also, ctrl+f on this page:
http://baseballsavvy.com/internetbaseballwriters.html
0 matches for “intelligent”
Mysterious number one requirement…

Someone should notify the FTC, this site is scamming the elderly.

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by Axion on Nov 11, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Look... I'll put it simply

Somebody pointed out that Tony Gwynn did not get into Cooperstown on a unanimous vote because some writers didn’t want to vote in any “Steroid Era” players and because they believe that nobody should be unanimous.

If that’s a good reason to slight a player who gets compared to Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner and Ted Williams, then simply being a Padres Fan should be a valid reason for a vote from a Padres Fan.

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

That's a plenty valid reason for you to have a vote

But it’s not at all a valid reason for you to vote against a player.

by KempKershaw on Nov 11, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

but thats not a good reason

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Nov 11, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you don't think it's a good reason

But it’s as valid a reason as “steroid era” or “nobody was as good as babe ruth”.

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

You are right.

Its a GREAT reason.

Padres Fan.

by MrDanielX on Nov 11, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

So you're the reason he tied.

You’ve got no one to blame but yourself.

TBD

by IputtheYinTony on Nov 11, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

why don't you take your toys and go home.

we never ask you to be here.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Nov 13, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Some Bloggers are ahead of some writers that are stuck in the past

Some bloggers are simply fans that don’t care about awards. Honestly, why does the award, or how another teams bloggers treatment of such award, that very few of us have heard of, matter this much to you?

Scowling at Padres Losses since 1981

by Nater Tater on Nov 12, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

last time i checked
Honestly, why does the award, or how another teams bloggers treatment of such award, that very few of us have heard of, matter this much to you?

I know right? I mean who in their right mind would would comment on a FANBLOG for an opposing team about a fake award? What kind of soul-less nincompoop would waste time on such an endeavour?

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Nov 12, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Why are we all so angry?

We are all writing about baseball on the internet. Should this not be fun and friendly?

by goldman.casey on Nov 11, 2011 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

and where do best pitchers in he NL get voted on in the NL cy young Ballot?

first…

the funniest is Hamels getting voted first tho…

alright if kershaws not first, its obviously halladay, and you guys F’ed up Twice by not even putting halladay first…. Or second.. LOL failure by you guys.. even an average fan would know this…

by matthewmafa on Nov 11, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

objective analysis is missing

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

frontal lobe is missing

if you are expecting objective analysis from this blog.

#thatshowiroll

by iheartyourfart on Nov 11, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You're right.

Tell SBN to include “objective analysis” in their voting requirements next time.

by jodes0405 on Nov 11, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Indeed

So very, very funny. I want moar SB baseball awards!

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by Aussie fan on Nov 12, 2011 3:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I teared up.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

this blog as a whole is just a fail

im sorry for any real padres fans here… you guys deserve a better blog..

by matthewmafa on Nov 11, 2011 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

The exit ain't locked

What I need is an electric monk

by Boilermaker19 on Nov 11, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Somebody call sdchicken!

He’s missing the perfect opportunity to riff on The Dark Knight!

by Darklighter on Nov 11, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

This blog is:

Biased, irreverent, inappropriate, hilarious and fun. I find this to be a good thing.

by field39 on Nov 11, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I can't believe I just found out about this blog

You guys are fantastic. Finally some guys who don’t take things too serious!!! Well done guys!!!!!

Big Sexy

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by King Billy Royal on Nov 13, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL, thanks :-)

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Nov 13, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome Bruddah!

"When you find your way. Then you see it disappear."

by padmadfan on Nov 14, 2011 1:07 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

What I need is an electric monk

by Boilermaker19 on Nov 11, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

ALL OF THEM!

Give’um up people. Jodes hit it on the proverbial head.

Take that Dodger fans! Padres have more fun!

Padres Fan.

by MrDanielX on Nov 11, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rec this post so hard...

"When you find your way. Then you see it disappear."

by padmadfan on Nov 11, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Damnit.
… there are plenty of "real" Padres here…

I obviously meant Padres FANS.

by jodes0405 on Nov 11, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

there needs to be a different color for this post

because this is simply better than green!

Scowling at Padres Losses since 1981

by Nater Tater on Nov 12, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a real Padres fan.

I like this blog.

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Nov 11, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Fail is a verb.

www.FriarsOnCardboard.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

because were not nerds

Yes we are. But, like, cool nerds.

by jodes0405 on Nov 11, 2011 12:35 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Shhh

You have to pretend to be cool when you talk to people from LA or they wont invite you to their fancy parties…I just hope they haven’t dug deep enough to see the constant Harry Potter refrences littering the site.

by The AZ Lurker on Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Does having the Dodger players ranked 5th

have anything to do with your cellar dweller season and finishing 5h in the NL West? Just curious

by SeanMillerSavior on Nov 11, 2011 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

Jesus Christ.

People need to relax.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 11, 2011 2:44 PM PST reply actions  

I don't presume to know how the Dodgers "think"

Am I supposed to be insulted by this somehow? I never said that the Dodgers think of the Padres as rivals. I said that I don’t like the Dodgers.

by Dex on Nov 11, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Anybody who reads this blog regularly

wouldn’t be surprised the least at the sentiment of this blog post, nor bothered by it. Irreverence thy name is Gaslamp Ball.

by EvilSammy on Nov 11, 2011 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

still don't know how

4 pitchers were voted ahead of Kershaw…….other than “I hate the Dodgers” …….

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 11, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

almost there....

lets bring him home!

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Nov 13, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of recs

what kind of a joke of a blog greens comments at 2 recs?

TBLA’a reaction to this is so hilariously childish.

by Rich Garcia's defective eyes on Nov 11, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

How ironic that

GLB’s childish vote is the cause of all of this.

by LAD17 on Nov 12, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoops

*To expect anything else besides that coming out in the voting is the mockery, not the other way around

Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!

by imstillhungry95 on Nov 11, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Saying this will likely incite a terrible backlash against me, but as much as I hate the D-Backs

I’ve always liked their fans. I’ve yet to meet an overly obnoxious one.

PS-Post rec’d.

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Nov 12, 2011 3:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you

I’m glad that you haven’t met an overly obnoxious Dbacks fan yet, and hope it stays that way for, say, the rest of eternity

Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!

by imstillhungry95 on Nov 12, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

ive met a few

but i live in arizona. But the fact that dbacks fan helped illustrate our point give more credence to , i can’t believe i’m saying this, san diego diamondbacks?

Scowling at Padres Losses since 1981

by Nater Tater on Nov 12, 2011 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I dare you to prove

he was ever a Dbacks fan to begin with

Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!

by imstillhungry95 on Nov 12, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

On point.

As my father told my sophomore season girlfriend, “you’re one of the good ones”.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Wish I could rec from my phone.

I joined GLB in Feb. 2009. I stick around because it is not serious buisness and is full of the lolz Some people taking blogging about sports way to serious, I am glad we don’t here.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on Nov 11, 2011 11:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely.

www.FriarsOnCardboard.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Your detective work is greatly appreciated

Hulk Hogan would call you a Real American.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

And I always thought Pinky couldn't get dumber

NARF!

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

If this was an attempt to increase traffic on your blog, well done.

If you really believe it…well, there’s no point in debating with morons.

by nivarsity on Nov 12, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

What were we debating?

That you got dumber?

And why are you here? What was your emotional investment in commenting here to begin with? Did the Dodgers have some sort of deal where if Kershaw unanimously won the SB Nation Cy Young Award sponsored by Bud Light in accordance with the California State Athletic Commission that he’d be traded immediately to the Texas Rangers? Did Gaslamp Ball screw that up too?

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

THIS

is pathetic. Still don’t know why there are 4 pitchers ahead of Kershaw, other than “we hate the Dodgers”.

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.minorleagueball.com
www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 12, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

the fact

that SBN decided to have these awards is reason enough to vote seriously…..just my two cents.

start the “I’m a Padres fan and the Dodgers suck. Don’t take this so seriously” onslaught.

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 12, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you vote seriously?

Because if you did, guess what? You win the dick measuring contest between the NL Cy Young voter of GLB and whatever blogs you’re here representing.
Enjoy your victory somewhere other than here.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s kind of an easy dick measuring contest to win . . . unless you know something about Jodes that I don’t.

by AIChief on Nov 12, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

There's a thin line

between a huge cl*t and a tiny d*ck.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm still convinced jodes has a penis

She may not have been born with it or carry it around at all times. But, she has one. And it can win some contests.

"second base is the bizness." -jbox

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by Wonko on Nov 14, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

GLB

is not the only sbnation that didn’t vote for your pitcher. are you making an ass out yourself on those blogs too?

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Nov 12, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think so

I think there were 3 sites that didn’t vote at all. I doubt anyone is over there demanding explanations.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

why

does the fact that SBN had awards have to mean it should be taken seriously? They invited GLB to their network, so should we be taken seriously? becuase, really, we don’t expect that.

How many times do we have to tell you, that , the reason there are 4 pitchers ahead of Kershaw is BECAUSE WE HATE THE DODGERS!!! you don’t understand that? there is NO other reason.

Scowling at Padres Losses since 1981

by Nater Tater on Nov 12, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

SBNation should have given the criteria. It is their fuck up, not yours.

Big Sexy

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by King Billy Royal on Nov 13, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

After looking at your SB Nation Profile

I would qualify you as an expert on things designated as pathetic. Your list of favorite teams read like a bowl of M&Ms.

by AIChief on Nov 12, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ugh

I thought he was there…..dang, we need to start over.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Nov 13, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just pissed that Jodes

Didn’t vote Latos #1 for Cy Young, and CamAzing #1 for MVP.

Padres Fan.

by MrDanielX on Nov 12, 2011 2:49 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

At least we know you wouldn't have minded Latos getting the #1 vote.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

good one Broooo

we gott a bunch of joksters up in here….

by matthewmafa on Nov 12, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that pronounced "Brew"?

And what’s a jokster? Did you misspell ‘jockster’? No, I guess you didn’t since that isn’t a word either. I suppose I’ll never know.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Nov 13, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 13, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

She should be tarred and feathered

Only because she could probably pull of the look.

I BELIEVE[d].

by LetBurroughsPitch on Nov 13, 2011 6:56 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Where did you read that?

I want statistics along with facts and an objective analysis.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

LOL

too easy bro … too easy…

by matthewmafa on Nov 12, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

What's too easy?

You should explain it to us because we’re all just a bunch of 12-year-olds on a joke of a site.

by jodes0405 on Nov 12, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What's too easy?

Reading? Because I’d probably try it again.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 12, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

lol
I’m saying Clayton Kershaw doesn’t deserve the Cy Young
You’re saying you have zero reading comprehension.

lol whutbro?

yes i got clowned… Lol… Real mature… real mature…

by matthewmafa on Nov 12, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

i remember my first beer

I thank the god I don’t believe in every day that I was not born a Dodger fan.

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Nov 12, 2011 6:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Wow, I was late to the party good stuff going on.

Seems like some visitors are lacking some common sense.

Can’t wait for opening day 2012. Mat Latos is going to take it Kershaw and the Doyers. Just do us a favor and stay up north for the occasion, he don’t want to pollution down here.

Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts

by mrbarneydangles on Nov 12, 2011 11:45 PM PST reply actions  

*Looks in*

Dodgers fans can type AND read??

by Dubsco on Nov 12, 2011 11:47 PM PST reply actions  

Type

The evidence for reading (at least with any sense of comprehension) is paltry at best.

queen of the rec fairies
although it broke our hearts it did not break our will the herd

by Aussie fan on Nov 13, 2011 12:36 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

been on vacation for the last two weeks

But finally had the chance to read through this post and all the comments. Good times. I guess the first and quickest thing to come to mind is that if dodger fans don’t learn how to take themselves less seriously here the way we have then next year is only going to feel even longer. And the pretend awards which none of their players will be elligible for because all of their good players will have been traded by trade deadline might only seem all the more irritating. Get over yourselves dodgers fans, you’re at the bottom with us so you might as well have fun while you’re at it.

"Well, he ought to go home and find somebody else to bang." Jerry Coleman

by cubbuster on Nov 13, 2011 7:13 AM PST via mobile reply actions   4 recs

And if you go to the True Blue site

their rationale for LA being a better city and San Diego is that it’s the food capitol of the world or some jibberish like that.

Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts

by mrbarneydangles on Nov 13, 2011 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

having lived in all three places

1. new york
2. san diego
3. los angeles

the drop off between 1 and 2 is huge, but i still cry every time i eat a dull, flavorless avocado or when i’m completely unable to get a fish taco in this city. the point is LA doesn’t hold a candle to nyc in terms of food. among other things…

by iheartyourfart on Nov 13, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

If you go to LA

And ask for a Beef Taco, you get a Carne Asada Taco. If you as for a “Shredded Beef” taco, they tell you they only do “Shredded Turkey” (wtf?).

San Diego Mexican Food is, was, and always will be superior to LA.

Padres Fan.

by MrDanielX on Nov 14, 2011 7:21 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

truer words have never been typed

Forget the brown...Bring back Hudson & Bauer!

by turbopan on Nov 14, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

There is SO MUCH GREEN in these comments.

And none of that lame 2 rec green like they have on True Blue LA. I like it.

by Darklighter on Nov 13, 2011 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

Let's be reasonable about #4...

Diamondbacks fans might be okay on the internets, but when those Zonies are driving around San Diego like the clueless tourists they are…

by Darklighter on Nov 14, 2011 8:33 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice !!!!

Judge a whole fanbase based on comments from a few posters…… Nice man .. you guys are truly pathetic…

by matthewmafa on Nov 14, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

You're not representative of Dodger Fan?

Oh…. Wait… I get it now.

You think you’re better than other people.

by Dex on Nov 14, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

There you go proving his first point again. Next time, READ. Or have an 11 or 13 year old read and explain it to you.
Proves several things I always suspected.

He’s not judging you BASED ON these comments. He listed opinions that he had already had prior to this thread. Opinions that were validated BECAUSE OF the comments on this thread.

by jodes0405 on Nov 14, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

His Opinions PRIOR to this thread were probably based off of A few Fans anyways too…..

BURN BRO, OR SIS…

READ….

by matthewmafa on Nov 14, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Just get out

The fact that you failed to read any comments anywhere in this thread where jodes says she’s a girl only shows us that we’re right. You can’t read. At all. Go find Waldo. Connect the dots to form a happy face. Do whatever. It’s evident that internet comment sections are not for you.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

i wrote sis cause i knew she was a girl… dude ur failing all over the place Bro..

by matthewmafa on Nov 14, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm no longer "Broooo"?

Aww….what happened between us? Have I broken thy heart?

But, if you knew she was a girl, why write bro? And add a comma? Just to match your other comments? Come on, man. Fess up. You didn’t know jodes was a she. It happens to the best of playas every once in awhile. You should try telling the truth more often.

ya know, cuz Lyin aint goo 4 ur look bro

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 14, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

lol i cant believe ur arguing about this Bro...

on every comment i have written bro, but in response to Jodes, i wrote Bro or Sis, implying I know she is a Girl….

But i wouldnt expect anything different from this joke of a blog for someone to insult me about not knowing whether she is a boy or girl… even though i obviously knew…

but it looks like this Joke you guys call a Blog likes to insult others so Keep Singing Broo…………..

by matthewmafa on Nov 14, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Every comment?

No. Not every comment you’ve made had “bro” in it. So, kind of a lie. Oh wait….

Was “bro” implied in every comment you’ve made? Gotta make sure since you’ve been such a faithful contributor to our blog. Don’t wanna insult you if there was an implied bro-ing and I was unaware.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 15, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

whats the Burn?

no really whats the Burn? you backpedalling to say well his opinion was probably based of a few fans? thats a burn? how do you know what his opinion was based off of. Mr. Daniel has traveled alot of places, and has seen more than a “few” fans. So…I don’t think anyones burning.

Scowling at Padres Losses since 1981

by Nater Tater on Nov 14, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

hold up

You’re a baseball blogger that doesn’t love WAR? I think that’s bigger than Kershaw-gate.

Was in SD a few weeks ago. Love the city (who wouldn’t love perpetual summer)… but aren’t all San Diegans just transplants from somewhere else?

Signed,
One of those “clueless tourists” pumping $$ into your city.
You’re welcome :P

by msgg139 on Nov 14, 2011 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

War, huh, yeah

What is it good for?

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 14, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

You wiped away any sort of diss when you ended the comment with the tongue out face. If you gave us money, shouldn’t we be the ones with our tongue out at you? You wined and dined and we made out like bandits with your hard earned cash. Thanks :P

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 14, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It's true, it's true

I was pleased with my experience. You gotta spend some loot to have a good time, unless you’re a transient who enjoys hostels and the extra value meal.

Plus, the Mrs. travels for a living, so the airfare and accomodations were paid for by points… so it’s a win-win. We save a couple thousand which we used to pump into the SD economy… hahaha

by msgg139 on Nov 14, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

For the record...

I’m pretty sure you’re right about San Diegans being transplants from somewhere else.

I tell people here I’m born and raised and I get a look of pity like I should’ve somehow escaped the place that they’ve decided to spend their life.

by Dex on Nov 14, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

you poor man

you’ve never experienced the joy of shoveling a foot of snow out of your driveway in sub-zero temperatures!

I think the transplant rep has a lot to do with (in no particular order): the naval base, weather/beaches for the younger crowd, weather for the older crowd, and when the Steelers or Raiders play SD at Qualcomm Stadium, you hear a lot of support for the visiting teams. Granted, they both have good travelling support anyways.

You got a ways to go to reach Atlanta, Raleigh-Durham or Nasville levels though

by msgg139 on Nov 14, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what you're talking about

I spent two years in Charlotte. I’m pretty good at making new friends and just about everyone I met there was from someplace else. Didn’t keep just about everybody from adopting some genuine unironic Southern hospitality though, so that made it nice.

by Dex on Nov 14, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

this needs to be green

only because the reference proves everything about this blog.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Nov 15, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

So true.

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by Wonko on Nov 14, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

WAR is fine

Though, by just about every WAR calculation, Clayton Kershaw should’ve come in second. If jodes had voted differently, he would’ve won first outright. This actually fixed a mistake that was about to be made.

by Dex on Nov 14, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

And you know what I find interesting about the "if only she had voted differently" scenario

Not one Phillie fan has come here and asked why she put Halladay 3rd. If she would have put him even second, he’d have won. Yet, no one has complained about that. The only thing anyone has complained about is that Kershaw tied for the “award”, but jodes kept Halladay from winning outright also.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 14, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Phillies fans don't argue with words.

They prefer to use vomit. Jodes should wear a poncho to all future Phillies games.

by Darklighter on Nov 14, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I like WAR.

But I don’t think anywhere in any award voting, SB Nation or BBWAA does it state: “Please be sure to consider the Pitcher WAR before determining your vote”. Its like “Who do you think deserves a Cy Young or MVP”. Personally all I think Dodgers or Giants deserve are a gigantic poop on their doorstep.

Padres Fan.

by MrDanielX on Nov 14, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

duly noted (on all counts)

It’s your vote, so it’s your call. I quite frankly don’t understand the furore surrounding this. Well, I “understand” it, but it doesn’t make any sense to me. Your ballot didn’t impact the MVP voting and really, it just illustrates how the Cy Young vote will be (should be) neck and neck (flaming bags on doorsteps notwithstanding)

Hope you’re enjoying the extra site traffic though!

by msgg139 on Nov 14, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I was born and raised in SD too

I live in Las Vegas now, but I hope to return someday. Paradise is expensive, I just can’t afford to move back.

I hear complaints about SD being a transplant city and I’ve never really seen it. It probabbly has more transplants than a city on the east coast. I’m trying to think of anyone I know that wasn’t born and raised in San Diego and can’t think of anyone. Maybe I don’t see it because I live in Las Vegas which is a REAL transplant city.

San Diego really hasn’t had any population booms the past 30 years. The people that live there…grew up there. Compare that data against Phoenix or Las Vegas.

google population graph thingie

by kevintheoman on Nov 14, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there might be something class-based to the transplant thing

I work in technology and if I took a straw poll of the people I worked with in my field it’d be something like 80% transplants. If I started to include people that work within my company, but aren’t in the same field, I think that number would go down.

It might also be age-based. Would you see a higher transplant rate if you took a census of only people over the age of 40?

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by Wonko on Nov 14, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

perhaps

I’m 29, so thats my frame of reference. I moved out of state when I was 21.

by kevintheoman on Nov 14, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd be pissed off too if I had to live in LA.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 14, 2011 5:17 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

it's in right field

I haven’t tried it out. I’m not a fan of outfield seats.

by kevintheoman on Nov 15, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

you can come to our fat party in right field

But only you. Don’t bring your mean friends.

I BELIEVE[d].

by LetBurroughsPitch on Nov 15, 2011 10:25 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

To sit next to him....

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 15, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

There were only 51 other voters for the Cy Young awards. Some people didn't vote.

Why aren’t you razzing them about not taking it seriously? And how exactly is “Ripping off the BBWAA” a “carefully conceived process by Eric Simon, implemented with much thought by dozens of great writers” that will give SBNation “more validity in the market”? To me, it looks like a bunch of nerds talking about their favorite X-Men stories (Joss Whedon’s Astonishing X-Men, for those of you wondering). It’s fun to do, but it doesn’t mean anything, and nobody else really cares.

by Darklighter on Nov 15, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm confused why your first question needs answering

Why should I be more upset with an absent ballot than one advanced that isn’t taken seriously? I know of A few voters who didn’t have time to put forth a well thought out ballot, so they abstained. As for your last point, your view is very inaccurate, as this entire post is evidence to the contrary.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 3:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I count a handful of random commenters plus a couple SB Nation writers caring about this.

In the grand scale of baseball writing, that’s effectively nobody. And what about the middle point? The whole bit about how this ripoff award is somehow supposed to magically make SB Nation more valid? Are you going to defend your own claims?

by Darklighter on Nov 15, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

the "ripoff" awards are practiced by all major sports outlets

As a way to instantly cover not only the awards but to provide analysis on the votes and players. It brings new traffic from existing outlets when the results and presentation are credible, just like any other area of journalism.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 4:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

[Citation needed]

I see plenty of writers discussing picks and the merits of various pitchers, but who is actually running their own award votes?

by Darklighter on Nov 15, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

we ran our own awards, and always do

Amusingly enough, Halladay was almost a unanimous winner

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 4:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I find it interesting that the lone Kershaw lover from Purple Row is the one here implying GLB is bad for SBN's credibility.

Also, I don’t find Purple Row any more credible just because you had your own little mini Cy Young vote.

by Darklighter on Nov 15, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose that would amuse you, but

1) voting for him does not make me a “Kershaw lover”
2) whether you believe it or not, my issue with how the vote was handled is in no way tied to the end result.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 5:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

also, espn has a panel vote

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 4:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Their panel vote is in predicting who the actual Cy Young winners will be

If that were the goal of the SB Nation vote, then I could understand your annoyance, because there would have been an actual “right” or “wrong” answer and our vote would have been wrong.

by Dex on Nov 15, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

the right or wrong, to me, is tied to the process, Not the result

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 5:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Then change the process

Don’t bitch about how we treated the process. Granted I’m not privy to communications between site administrators and SBN, but if SBN is trying to be taken more seriously and wants only serious analysis to go into the votes, then State that goal to the site administrators. If that goal is not stated, don’t whine when a site that started as a community of friends that were fans of a baseball club treated what they viewed as something not very serious as such.

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by Nater Tater on Nov 15, 2011 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Lincecum at 68?

Please….

You know he only gets as high as #420.

Why ask a failed romance to come watch your successful one? You know, that's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone.

by Friar Fever on Nov 15, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions   4 recs

this whole post is well argued, but does not address my issue at all.

Your opinion that these awards were utterly meaningless and worthy of zero intelligent thought is well documented. I disagree, but I never had issues understanding your point. Nor did I ever question your method of running GLB, which is a straw man you enjoyed beating in your response.

My issue is you claim to be too cool for school, yet you show up and mess up what others take seriously. And yes, I know it was not literally you in this case. Why bother? If other people care, let them have their opinion and just stay out of it. You doubt these votes give SBNation any credibility, yet they (and their cousin the power rankings) generate a LOT of traffic, and I know of several anecdotal incidents of members switching to baseball nation in part due to how those aspects are run.

You don’t like how the awards are run, how they are named, how they exist at all? Fine. Don’t be involved with it then. But you state BBWAA’s voting is a “ridiculous part of baseball” and that they make “crazy choices.” A statement against the admitted poor votes they produce absolutely should not be to emulate the obvious biases utilized. That’s my opinion, and you can disagree. You can’t disagree that people do care about this. The reactions bear witness to that truth. So why mess up what people care about when you clearly dont?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 3:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This is where we disagree

We have not “messed” anything up. There was no right answer. If there was a right answer, there would not have been a need for a vote.

And for the record, I never cast the ballot. JBox and I conferred and we agreed to let one of our contributors cast our ballot for us. When she asked if it had to have a statistical bent we (apparently incorrectly) told her that it did not need to be stats based.

Again, how has this messed anything up? Roy Halladay by most “advanced” metrics had a better season than Clayton Kershaw, who will win the real Cy Young Award on the basis of the Triple Crown, which, despite how rarely it happens, is one of the more statistically irrelevant awards in baseball. If Halladay had won outright, would that have been a better result? If Clayton Kershaw had won outright, would that have been better?

Again, how have we messed anything up?

by Dex on Nov 15, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   4 recs

I didn't take issue with the vote being a "non-stats" vote

Any rationale is welcome, but I take issue with intentionally voting down a player solely due to the front of his jersey. And moreso, I took issue with partaking in a vote in which the voter did not care or approve of the vote taking place in the first place. That may not represent her views, but you presented it as such. That is, and has been, my issue all along. Despite the length of this banter, it isn’t something that kept me awake, and I haven’t sent any gift baskets to Eric Stephen. I’ve merely presented my differing viewpoint.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 5:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You know

The office of the President of the United States is pretty important and serious too, yet I know people who vote that couldn’t tell you the difference between Herman Cain and John McCain, or Hillary Clinton or George Clinton. Voters are free to vote with whatever rationale they choose to for even this important decision, and often choose sillier reasons to vote or not vote for a candidate than Jodes may or may not have used to decide her vote.

So are you telling people who don’t have “serious” reasons to vote for a candidate in a serious election they shouldn’t exercise their right to vote?

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by Nater Tater on Nov 15, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I know this to be true, and this exact conversation happened

I asked a good friend of mine, back in 2000, who he voted for:

“Ralph Nader.”

“Why?”

“My favorite color is green, and he’s in the Green Party”

Did I mock him for that? Well, yes a little, but I didn’t yell at him for “not taking it seriously enough”

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by creanium on Nov 17, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I offer you your own advice

If you don’t like the way Gaslamp Ball is run, “Don’t be involved with it then”. This vote did not affect you in anyway.

by jbox on Nov 15, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I certainly don't hang out here much, as you notice

I just stopped by to provide an outside perspective, since this whole episode is riddled with allegiances to GLB and TBLA. I suppose my objective opinion isn’t valued though, as it doesn’t align with yours. Enjoy your evening and offseason.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 5:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

"I suppose my objective opinion isn’t valued though, as it doesn’t align with yours."

From zero to martyr in just over three hours. I’m impressed.

But you’re not objective. You’ve come in with your own preconceived notions of the importance of the vote, and you’re judging Gaslamp Ball based on the fact that the writers’ notions don’t mesh with yours.

by Darklighter on Nov 15, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Well said

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by Aussie fan on Nov 18, 2011 1:28 AM PST up reply actions  

as for the "mockery", the word choice is admittedly strong

But it sure doesn’t feel good to have your vote counted the same when hours of careful thought went into it. You can disagree all day about how important the SBNation awards are. It still doesn’t change that an intentional bad ballot was cast in a vote you allegedly don’t care about.

"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 4:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Have you ever voted in a real election?

You are not better than someone else just because you think you are, just because you put more time into a decision, just because you feel you have better criteria than somebody else.

You accuse me of being “too cool for school” and yet, if I understand you correctly… it were up to you, you’d be the one willing to turn the vote into some sort of exclusive club where only your perspective, and perhaps perspectives within 2 degrees of separation, are considered valid.

Again, it was not a quiz. There was no “right” answer. Just because you studied for it doesn’t mean you should’ve received a better grade.

by Dex on Nov 15, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I have said nothing of the sort

I never said or suggested I was better than anyone. Several times I’ve written that any rationale is welcome, that really my only issue was that there was no rationale and that it wasn’t taken seriously. And yes, I’ve voted in real elections, and yes, it bothers me that dozens of write in votes go to Mickey Mouse every presidential election

"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 5:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe you don't realize that you've suggested it, but you sure as hell have.

You started off by suggesting that the poll was designed to give SBNation validity and credibility. Even if that had been all you said, it would have carried the veiled implication that Gaslamp Ball is neither valid nor credible, which is pretty goddamn rude.

by Darklighter on Nov 15, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

There was rationale.

just not rationale you liked. i.e. Name on Front of Jersey.

Padres Fan.

by MrDanielX on Nov 15, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Again, how was this an intentional bad ballot?

Which part made it bad? She voted the same 5 that pretty much everyone else did.

by jbox on Nov 15, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

that claim is based on Dex' words in the main story

That she hates the Dodgers, thus placed him fifth. It’s dishonest to the spirit of the vote

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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 4:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The spirit of the vote? Are you kidding me?

SB has created a prize which is surely written in sarcasm font, giving it the same name as a prestigious award, just to see how incredibly seriously fans (!) could take themselves, with the faint hope that someone might realise what fandom is all about (loving and sometimes hating your own team, and despising your rivals) – apparently great writers agonised over it for hours, and then, blown up with righteous indignation and bizarre self-aggrandisement berated and mocked someone with more sense than them who voted as a true fan.

It’s really simple. There was a clear rationale. It is a more than reasonable rationale that celebrates the glorious often painful humour at the heart of being a Padres fan. Fans are biased. The best sort know this, play with it, and enjoy it. We’re only interested in how good Kershaw is when he’s had a bad year or three, and is hoping Petco can help him out. Then we’ll use some valuable stats (eg WAR) to discuss amongst ourselves whether we want him.

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by Aussie fan on Nov 18, 2011 1:56 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Our representative voted the same 5 pitchers that True Blue LA had in their top 5, just in a different order. So your examples of voting for undeserving players is completely invalid. Tell me how her vote made a mockery of the award, devalued of SB Nation, or some how warranted True Blue LA using Anchorman quotes to tell us to go fuck ourselves.

by jbox on Nov 15, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I did not come here to defend TrueBlueLA in any way

And if you read closely, I never said your rep didn’t vote for undeserving candidates. They were all deserving, naturally. I just provided an example of how far you could go within GLB without me caring. If there was some method of analysis other than “eff the Dodgers,” I could have cared less. Any one is welcome to their own methods. This was apparently a nonserious agenda used.

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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 4:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You came here to try and pile on with the rest of the bloggers and readers

that think they are smarter, better writers or care more about their teams and SB Nation then we do based on a vote that in the scheme of things is entirely inconsequential..

by jbox on Nov 15, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I didn't come to pile on

I came to provide a perspective of fellow writer, and non dodger/padre fan. There is nothing wrong with added perspective.

"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 15, 2011 4:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Now, this is great writing

If you don’t get it after reading this there is distressingly little hope for you.

queen of the rec fairies
although it broke our hearts it did not break our will the herd

by Aussie fan on Nov 18, 2011 1:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Part of what you've done

Is clearly not read the thread properly. Other fans have come and given their perspective, and it differs significantly from yours, which clearly shows that your view is not the only possible ‘objective’ one (contra to your strong implication).

queen of the rec fairies
although it broke our hearts it did not break our will the herd

by Aussie fan on Nov 18, 2011 2:00 AM PST up reply actions  

People fail to realize

That there are always outliers in awards voting. Is GLB the outlier? Honestly I don’t even know. I’ve ignored the votes (with the exception of Kershaw 5th) and laughed at the compelling aftermath.

But considering Trevor Hoffman was left off a couple ballots entirely in 1998, costing him the NL CY Young, I think Clayton Kershaw should be sending a fruit basket to San DIego for the holidays this year. . . because these awards matter. A lot.

by AIChief on Nov 15, 2011 9:21 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Who would of thought that that a fan wearing bias on her sleeve would be an issue.

That is what fans are, they are fucking biased. I would suggest that wearing bias on your not a joke, but fans pretending that they are not biased is.

by field39 on Nov 15, 2011 10:40 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Whenever I see stuff like this, it makes me think that they want to consider themselves "sophisticated" and "better than you."

I have a bunch of friends who allege that they like beer. They go to different places and then bitch about what they are drinking, claim that beer is just as sophisticated a drink as wine, and then bicker about who has better taste in beer. Listening to them whine is only bearable because I’m usually buzzed on a liquor, but every time I watch these episodes unfold it just reeks of a desperate attempt to say, “I’m better than you because when I drink this beer I consider a wide spectrum of stimuli and variables,” instead of just shutting the fuck up and drinking.

When they do this with pizza, I ridicule them mercilessly. Also, fuck them for trying to ruin pizza for me.

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Nov 16, 2011 2:55 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

amen

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by Ron Mexico on Nov 16, 2011 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn

“We take our fun very seriously” is a great slogan.

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by Wonko on Nov 16, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

How long is it going to take for divisional rivals to learn the basics?

We ruin everything.

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by Aussie fan on Nov 18, 2011 2:08 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

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