ESPN: Jed Hoyer to the Cubs is a done deal
by Dex on Oct 20, 2011 9:49 AM PDT
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I just got blown... AWAY.
According to ESPNChicago.com, not only is "Boy Wonder" Theo Epstein a done deal to join the Chicago Cubs (who the Padres eliminated from World Series contention in 1984), but also JED HOYER WILL GO.
I'm still kind of in the camp that there's a certain protocol that has to be followed with this sort of stuff and apparently at least one side is not really confirming anything:
Two other sources confirmed ESPNChicago.com's report that San Diego Padres general manager Jed Hoyer will be named Cubs GM a few days after Epstein's news conference. But Padres owner Jeff Moorad emailed ESPNBoston.com's Gordon Edes late Wednesday night that the Cubs had not asked for official permission to interview Hoyer.
So, which is it, people!? Do we have him? Do we not have him?
I've seen the rumors that the ownership group would love to bring Josh Byrnes in because he's a D-Back's guy, which I guess makes as much sense as anything now that the world has turned upside down and demon goats are adopting human babies.
Oh wait. I know. Since the ownership group is so enamored with Arizona, why don't we just hire Kevin Towers? Former San Diegan. Arizona guy. That would make sense too, right?
Me, personally? I still kinda don't think Jed Hoyer would go and I don't want him to go. DON'T GO, JED HOYER. That would be a dick move. Showing up all young faced and handsome just out of college and then cutting and running. Like San Diego's some stepping stone job.
Oh, what's that, Dave Winfield? It is a stepping stone job? Hmmmm... Adrian Gonzalez? What's that you say? You don't blame him? Well, yeah Sandy Alomar, I get it, but still... No. No... I totally understand, Padres Pitching Staff, there are good opportunities. No, Ghost of Jake Peavy's career, I don't even want to hear about Chicago from you, a-hole. Seriously, Paul DePodesta. Don't you pile on. Ah... eff it never mind.
Quick, somebody show Jed Hoyer this video. It worked on Billy Beane. I know. I read Moneyball book.:
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It took a little longer than overnight, but we’re the Dbacks now.
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So angry right now
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The only bad part of this?
We still have to wait a few more days for him to get the f*ck out of town.
If I didn’t expect compensation from the Cubs, I’d rather Moorad just fired him.
by Drama on Oct 20, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Jed was dead to me the moment he traded Mike.
Eff him.
~Chicks dig unhittable sliders and sick changeups.~
If Moorad really wanted Byrnes anyway
then I don’t blame Hoyer one bit. Might as well go where you are appreciated.
On the very next play Venable soiled the sheets again
This makes both Moorad and Jed look really really bad.
by recorddigger on Oct 20, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Because Moorad can say no to the Cubs.
Hoyer only gets to leave if Moorad lets him.
by Darklighter on Oct 20, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
What is the point in forcing him to stick around
for two more seasons, if he wants out? I don’t want a guy who is watching the clock making all of the big decisions.
Moorad didn't look good to begin with.
The organization’s reputation as whole has improved, but Moorad has always looked suspect. The guy is taking a decade to pay for the club, and the AZ love is obviously not cool. The guy just doesn’t give you any reason to be confident in the club. Now that Jed is gone are we gonna have another “re-building” period. This is just stupid. And why were the Padres not compensated in any way?! Moorad better make it rain in some way, cause this is such awful news.
by recorddigger on Oct 20, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What do you mean ANOTHER re-building period?
We haven’t left the re-building period that started in ’08.
by Darklighter on Oct 20, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
We don't know how many other people from within the organzation will leave with Jed.
I’m sure there will be many repercussions within the organization. It’s just ugly to have a new GM after only 2 years.
by recorddigger on Oct 20, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Why another rebuilding period?
Byrnes and Hoyer are from the same school of thought.
And why were the Padres not compensated in any way?!
Nothing has happened yet.
Byrnes is not an AZ guy, he is a Moorad guy. If he has been available when Moorad fired KT, the job would of been his.
Be your own man Hoyer!
Why go somewhere else and live under Epstein’s shadow.
[Comment From Jesse Jesse: ]
Do you imagine a scenario where we could, say, sell Hudson to a Japanese team?
by Natrone Means Business on Oct 20, 2011 10:27 AM PDT reply actions
I really hope this isn't true
There are good baseball stories.
There are bad baseball stories.
Then there’s 50 feet of crap.
And there’s this complete and utter bullshit the Pads have to deal with.
by psychotron on Oct 20, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions 7 recs
So new uniforms next year
Purple and Teal? With the Tuscon Padres logo, cactus and all. We became Zonies so gradually I hardly even noticed . . .
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
[Comment From Jesse Jesse: ]
Do you imagine a scenario where we could, say, sell Hudson to a Japanese team?
by Natrone Means Business on Oct 20, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
The Thought of John Lacky here
really nauseates me.
by SanDiegoKev on Oct 20, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, as an Angels fan and Padres fan I don't want him anywhere near here
I hate the thought of having to root for Lackey.
25 years as a baseball fan and I'm still confused by the infield fly rule
not cool
just not right. I don’t care if Moorad wanted Byrnes more than Hoyer or Hoyer misses working with Epstein. Hoyer should be supported to finish the job that he started here.
And the ultimate BS...
There will be no compensation for Hoyer, a source told ESPNChicago.com. Moorad and Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts have become friends since the Ricketts family bought the Cubs in October 2009.
All the fun is in the cheap seats!
I wish
Moorad would move on as well.
by SanDiegoKev on Oct 20, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
By far the worst part of this.
The guy has 3 years left on his deal. Moorad’s just gonna let him walk away from his contract?
If Jed really is a Brady Hoke style job hopper,
letting him go is not a mistake. The mistake was hiring him in the first place.
The mistake was
Bud Selig approving this ownership group.
by SanDiegoKev on Oct 20, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think both sides are to blame
It feels now like Jed was just biding his time until he had a better opportunity. The Padres deserve someone who wants to be here and help build this team.
But no compensation? Does Moorad want to screw this team over? First the Adrian trade, which at the moment is looking like we really got taken by Boston by their so-called can’t miss prospects, and now this.
25 years as a baseball fan and I'm still confused by the infield fly rule
the adrian trade still seems like a fair deal
keep in mind there weren’t that many suitors available for adrian that could put together a package of players AND sign him long-term.
we got rizzo, two former first rounders (one of which is looking quite promising) and a warm body.
by iheartyourfart on Oct 20, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how we get the left overs.
The fired left overs from a regime in AZ that ran a team into a ditch so badly that AJ Hinch and Josh Byrnes were fired.
Padres Fan.
Even though this sucks
I like your subtle arrested development quote in this story, Dex. “I just got blown… Away.”
But seriously, this blows.
by 5fingerGreenehandpunch on Oct 20, 2011 11:22 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
You know...if we're just bringing people over from Arizona, any chance we can get Justin Upton?
I mean, he’s actually good.
…
…
…
…please?
Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...
and lets flip
John Lackey and send him to Az.
by SanDiegoKev on Oct 20, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
this is indeed really upsetting
but from a career standpoint, I think it makes sense for Hoyer to jump.
- now works under Theo and around more people he’s familiar with from the old Boston organization
- has a hell of a lot more money to use
- if he gets lucky and somehow gets the Cubs into the WS, permanent glory
- if he fails, he’s no different than the previous 20 GMs there
if you were him, would you want to stick around in San Diego, being chained to a low budget organization that is going to endlessly hold you back in terms of limiting your strategies? with the Cubs he’ll have a lot more at his disposal and higher reward if he finds success. sucks, but there you have it.
by abara on Oct 20, 2011 11:56 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
IANAGM, but I'd take San Diego.
Having a lot more money to work with also means having to shoulder a lot more of the blame when that money gets you diddly squat. Winning a World Series in either city gets you put up on a pedestal, but losing 90 games is only your fault in Chicago.
by Darklighter on Oct 20, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Theo isn't going to give Jed the boot if they lose 90
and I don’t think Ricketts is a big a crank as Steinbrenner was, so I doubt he’ll be calling for his head either. Hendry managed to survive there for years, and he was terrible.
As long as the Padres don't not end up with Eric Byrnes from Arizona
I’m ok with either Jed or Josh.
I officially HATE the Cubs
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Oct 20, 2011 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Bummed about McLeod too
I think that will ultimately have a greater negative impact then Jed leaving.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Oct 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions
This pisses me off!
Jed just wasn’t 100% committed to this job. I’m worried about the clones he will take with him. A package of Hoyer, McLeod and a few scouts for no compensation seems crazy to me. Any chance Hoyer sees our farm system and our cheap ass owner as a dead end? Off to kill somone in Black Ops now!
If I pick it, I flick it
by Duke Street Kings on Oct 20, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions
Hoyer made 3 big trades as our GM
The Adrian trade doesn’t look terrific right now, but we need to give it more time.
The Maybin trade is a huge win, and that isn’t going to change.
The Adams trade has a pretty high % of working out well for us, I think.
Overall, not bad.
I am, however, really upset about him bailing out on us and leaving us with a failed Dbacks GM. This team needs a forward thinking GM. Not some guy who has already has his shot and didn’t do much with it.
by walnut falcons on Oct 20, 2011 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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