Frustrated Incorporated
by jbox on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 AM PDT
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PrintI went to the game last night. I'm going to vent a little bit.
I can't figure out why fans and players are so upset that there aren't enough fans in the ballpark. There were 27K in attendance which is a good crowd for a Tuesday night. I was actually a little disturbed that there were 27K of us in San Diego that have the same fetish of watching a team sh_t the bed.
It seems like ages since the Padres have played baseball worthy of the playoffs. Some players on the team think that they've already succeeded this season because they proved the critics wrong, that they've done enough to deserve sell out crowds, comfortable with the success of the first 3/4's of the season. Don't they realize that by choking at the end of the season that all they've done is proven the critics right? You know John Morosi is proudly thinking, "I knew the Padres would stumble and the Giants would over take them, I was just a month too early with my prediction."
Sitting in the seats last night it felt like I had traveled back in time to those teams from 2004-2009. They are incapable of scoring and they play lethargic uninspired baseball. Adrian Gonzalez played like Ryan Klesko, flying out or hitting soft grounders directly at a defensive player, while barely breaking out into a slow jog to first. Where is the hustle? I was disgusted when he dove for Miguel Tejada's wild throw and laid on the ground for a good 15 seconds. "GET UP YOU QUITTER!" Then when he misplayed a soft grounder at first I got up and left my seat, too frustrated to sit there any longer.
I don't question the team's desire to win but it really seems like they've let that hunger affect their play. Have you ever been so hungry that you've just become delirious? Making rash, poor decisions because you're distracted by your intense hunger? It's the only way I can explain Nick Hundley swinging wildly at balls out of the strike zone instead of working the count or Miguel Tejada forcing a throw when it would have been better just to eat it or Mat Latos trying to bare hand a bunt when he had plenty of time to field the ball with his glove. They really seem to be pressing, the pressure is too much for them.
I wandered to the other side of the park to a standing room area, hoping to get a different perspective. It was in the 7th the Padres put on two base runners and left them out there to die. The fans were not to blame, they were as loud as I've heard them all year and it wasn't because the scoreboard told them to cheer, they were into this game. This fan base is passionate. The passion last night was lacking on the field.
With the acquisition of Ryan Ludwick and Miguel Tejada; the injuries to Jerry Hairston Jr., Anthony Gwynn and Will Venable and the slumps of Everth Cabrera, Gwynn and Venable this team no longer seems "built for Petco Park". This might be why it feels like I'm watching a team from a few seasons ago. 619Sports.net was the first to question whether the Padres were slowing down due to acquisitions and injuries, thereby taking away what made them so successful in the first half. Bob Scanlan echoed these thoughts last night on the PostGame show saying that the Padres have become a team that depends on a big hit to score, instead of manufacturing runs. We've seen over the last 30 innings or so that sometimes you have to wait a long time for a big hit.
The entire game I kept one eye on the out of town scoreboard. The Diamondbacks were winning - the score is tied - the Giants are winning. As the Padres played worse and worse the Giants kept scoring. It is going to be ridiculously difficult for the Padres to win these last 5 games in a row, but that's exactly what they're going to have to do if they want to prove the critics wrong and prove that they deserve the rewards of playoff baseball.
Go Padres!
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Vaguely remember hearing
that the walkup numbers were something like 16k. That’s pretty good.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Agree with everything
And, since I was part of the “bitching” about attendance, I should note that last night’s crowd was a lot better (5k more, but a lot louder and more involved) than Monday night’s.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
It would help if Bud Black knew how to manage a game
i.e. when to take out his pitchers, or when to bunt, or when to pinch-run, or when to use defensive replacements…
Fire Bud Black
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more
I was there last night too, and the fans were definitely not the problem. That was just not a game played by a team in a playoff run.
And I’m glad someone is finally calling out Adrian for his lack of hustle. He never runs out ground balls, and last night he needed to stop pouting and play his heart out.
Jeez … this is so frickin’ frustrating!
by Michelle Frost on Sep 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
WELCOME!!
I need new pants.
So wrong, but so right.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I can't argue with this logic.
"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG
by TheGrandHatching on Sep 29, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Its only fair
Since jodes0405 is always on the lookout for boy-on-boy action.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Is it so bad
that I just want Johnko to work out and for the two of you to be happy?
I need new pants.
You're heterophobic
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You're false.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
The team just looks beat to me.
And it is frustrating.
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
I will be there tonight
Anyone going to the Season Ticket Holder event before the game?
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
I am going
But I was not aware of the event.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Going to the game that is
Obviously I wasn’t planning on attending something I wasn’t aware of.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
This is the basic gist of it:
I wanted to take the opportunity to invite you to a Town Hall meeting with Tom Garfinkel and Jed Hoyer this Wednesday. This small, intimate event is exclusive to Season Ticket Holders, and will be an exciting opportunity to have your feedback heard by our upper level management as well as hear first hand about plans for the direction of the team.
I will be in attendance. I think it is only 50 people.
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
by Padres_Hobo on Sep 29, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh okay. Small sample size group.
Give them heck.
Anyways, I heard there is also what sounds like a larger event this Sunday.
A field event or something? Has any STH heard of this?
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
I got an email about this too
But I deleted it. I believe it was to watch the game in the park on the screen.
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
by Padres_Hobo on Sep 29, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I e-mailed our Account Specialist
He did verify there were only 50 people invited to today’s meeting.
He just sent me the e-mail that went out to ALL the STH for the Field Day on Sunday. It does appear to be an event while watching the game.
Gates open 12pm. Gametime 1:05pm.
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
Ha ha
Deleted comments.
"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG
by TheGrandHatching on Sep 29, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Last night was the closest I've ever come to leaving a game early of my own volition.
After the bottom of the 7th, I was too angry to think straight. I’ve shown up to a lot of games this season; I’d expect the team to do the same.
by Darklighter on Sep 29, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't think the acquisitions have anything to do with it
other than Ludwick not hitting. I suppose Cunningham and/or Denorfia could have given us marginally better production and better defense, but there was no way to know that at the time. Tejada has been far better than Everth.
The team was actually hurting itself back when they were stealing bases. Only marginally, but still.
Why they are losing is they aren’t scoring runs. Simple as that. And Latos has stopped being incredible. That’s about it.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 29, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
I don't think the idea is that you could have predicted this happening based on our acquisitions
Simply that in hindsight the acquisitions plus injuries have resulted in the current situation.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
i disagree
Yes, this is hard to watch, but honestly are the players not trying?
On the Gonzalez play, I think he saw that the ball was going to the dug out and there was nothing he could do to about it.
The team is in a collective funk, again, which is not that surprising when our offense does not have that much buffer between passable and not enough.
I question having Tejada in there with his groin and having Stairs in left. I get the need for offense, but still.
Yes it would really suck if they did not make it, but this team has played incredibly well. I remain proud of them.
The Stairs gambit has paid off so far
There hasn’t been one defensive play, with the possible exception of pulling back a home run (although even that would have just made us lose 4-2 instead of 5-2), where I’ve seen us give up value defensively. However, his offense alone hasn’t been enough to push us towards victory, but I guarantee you its helped us get a little closer than going with someone else who was a better defender.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Is that a Derek Bell referance?
Awesome.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
And regarding the hunger
maybe they should eat more breakfast*
*never gets old
Don't hate the game, hate the nerds!
Right there with you
Literally.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Or right there for her?
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
"Even Jedis don't stand a chance against our bullpen."
No
No one will be there for us. We sink into an emotional downhill spiral with nothing to break our fall.
But, its not gonna happen. We’re gonna win.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Man I hope you're right
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
"Even Jedis don't stand a chance against our bullpen."
Yeah, except we literally used literally correctly.
Twice. Literally.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I agree with everything you said
The more I think and read about these last couple of games the more I believe…. that they’re done. Now that’s not to say I hate this team and am not going to root for them to win, I always will no matter what, it’s just that they seem to have checked out themselves and have been playing like crap. Now I’d be more then happy to be proven wrong about all this and see the Padres go on to the playoffs and have success. So there you go Padres, please please please prove me wrong.
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
"Even Jedis don't stand a chance against our bullpen."
Should be interesting
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
"Even Jedis don't stand a chance against our bullpen."
I liked what he had to say
I’m just praying that if we come up short this year, that doesn’t equate to Adrian being shipped out.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Sep 29, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
From Marty1090
Adrian “The way the interview started, it wasn’t about free agency. It was about what do you think about the Cubs young players.”
" It’s people wanting to make a story out of nothing. My mind is all about the last week of the season. It’s (free agency) never been"
on my mind & it’s not going to be for the next year & a half. Right now I’m extremely happy to be a Padres & I’ve said it all along."
Adrian on if next 2 days could be his last in SD “I fully expect to be here next yr. I’m not in control of that, the team controls my…”
…my rights for next year. I would love to be here in the years to come. There is zero mindset of me not being in San Diego."
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
Annoying out-of-context quotes are annoying
Low blow to Adrian by whoever set him up. BS.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I forgive you, Adrian
but you should have apologized.
It’s hard for me to imagine this happening to any other MLB player in Adrian’s position. With 5 games left in the stretch run, it’s just very very bad timing, that’s all.
by recorddigger on Sep 29, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He kep clearing his throat
I dont think he liked it when Darren equated what is happening to Adrian
as similar as what happened to Jake Peavy…
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
It is difficult to read that article and
not come away with the conclusion that Adrian has started his countdown clock. Either that reporter was a total dickhead or Adrian is back peddling. I have no idea which, but Jed best figure it out before spring.
Think about Chris Gwynn
We all desperately need to cheer up. On this day 14 years ago, Chris Gwynn hit his legendary pitch-hit double to set-up a sweep of the Dodgers and the first Padres division win since ’84.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Gwynn
I think it’s the greatest Padres moment ever, largely because it symbolically sums up the history of this franchise. If you remember as I do, Chris Gwynn was more than horrible that year, batting .178. But on the last at bat of his career, all sins were forgiven.
I’d also like to make a request to the Padres organization to show that clip on the big screen tonight.
by recorddigger on Sep 29, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
100% agree
I remember that hit/game. We can do this!
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
They were in the playoffs regardless of that hit.
That hit gave them the division rather than the wild card and changed their playoff opponent from Atlanta to St. Louis.
right on...
great thoughts and i agree with pretty much everything. the focus on the small details that was there for most of the season is gone. all the little things that they were doing correctly are now being done incorrectly. hustle, fielding your position, moving runners along, etc.
after hundley’s HR and denorfia’s single, i thought the momentum had shifted but no luck. latos had no business batting there. not because he can’t lay down a bunt (he can, 2nd on the team with 9 SH) but because #1 he looked like he just didn’t want to. his lack of effort and reaction to hoffy’s signs with 2 strikes made that apparent. #2 it was time for the leagues best bullpen to take over. the 5th had taken too much out of latos. i hate second guessing managers’ calls but i was screaming at the tv last night long before soriano’s HR
I couldn't agree more. I held off posting at the time because we had just tied it and didn't want
to piss off people by questing buddy. latos had given us 5 good innings. our team is hard pressed for runs and are playing tight, so you have to take your chance there to grab the lead something we haven’t had in a game since saturday, plus dempster may be flustered having just given up a HR and single, so you don’t want to give him a free out there, and we supposedly have the best bullpen in baseball, well use it then, as you’re only going to get another inning out of latos anyway at that point.
living in the bay area i’ve been so impressed with how bochy is going for the win every night for the past three weeks. pulling lincecum vs brewers in the 5th inning down 2-1, pulling cain in a 0-0 game after 7 innings when he’s only thrown 79 pitches, etc. etc. he has full faith in his bullpen and is using every opportunity to get his team the lead. hell, he had chris ray warming up in the second inning yesterday when the score was still 0-0 and sanchez was having control issues and had loaded the bases. i’ve just been tired of night in and night out buddy not pulling his starter until the damage has been done.
my only defense of buddy is that the giants have had a much more favorable schedule getting monday off three weeks in a row where we’ve had to finish with 30 games in 31 days.
I to was there...
We kept the faith out in right the whole night.
I did note that when things don’t go Latos’ way he tends to get frazzled, almost to point of acting like a sullen teenager. He needs to snap out of that mentality and just move on to the next thing. The 2-run lead effected him the rest of the game, in particular withe bunt fail.
All the fun is in the cheap seats!
They look lifeless again
I thought they had broken out of it with Tejada’s hit and the win it led to on Friday night, but Sunday seemed to break their spirit again.
I wish they would show some life. I’m sitting there in my room or at the bar screaming at the TV, jumping up and down, pounding on the table. Too many of the players on the other hand just seem like zombies. They just seem lethargic and content to have given it a good run.
I wish we could make this into a powder and pour it in the team’s gatorade. Tejada is so freaking pumped there. I’ve probably watched that highlight like 20 times the last few days.
I sure hope they can turn it around tonight and keep it that way these last 5 days.
by Antonio Olivares on Sep 29, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
I've noticed that recently the team sucked really bad...
whereas earlier in the season, they sucked almost not at all. It’s my theory that if they were to stop sucking so bad for the final five games, we just might make the playoffs.
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by theodore donald kerabatsos on Sep 29, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I never thought Jerry Hairston
was going to be this important, but that guy did have some confidence that hellped the younger players. I agree with jbox that this team lately is more Todd Walker and Mark Belhourn than what we saw the first 5 months.
Going to the game tonight. C’mon Pads!
Do or do not, there is no try. -Yoda
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
Exactly
It will be Jerry Hairston’s 41.67 Sureness Index (49.2 Equivalent Average Faith in Oneself) that will keep the younger players from reaching their potential and keep the Padres out of the playoffs.
"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG
by TheGrandHatching on Sep 29, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
When you talk like that
I can’t decide if you sound like a sabermetrician or a D&Der. Could go either way.
fearless prediction
we don’t lose another game in 2010
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by justdave on Sep 29, 2010 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Gritty
Make this happen!
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by polyrhythm07 on Sep 29, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
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