Padres letting season slip away, lose 3 of 4 to Giants
by jbox on Sep 12, 2010 4:25 PM PDT
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PrintThe much hyped match up between Lincecum and Mat Latos didn't live up to the billing. Latos had his second worst start of the season and as a result the Padres were never in the game.
The Padres offense can share in the blame as they continue to swing ice cold bats. This team over the past few weeks remind me of the Padres of the last two seasons, they make it look impossible to score. I don't think they even believe they can score at this point. In the last 4 games they were only able to score 5 runs total.
The Padres better start winning tomorrow or their chances of making the playoffs could be next to nothing by the end of the week. The Giants and Rockies are playing their best baseball of the year and the Padres look awful. It's frustrating for all of those involved.
Well maybe not Bud Black. I'm listening to him right now on the Post Game Show talk about how excited they are to be in first place in this great NL West race. The problem is that this is a marathon and our rivals have already started their kick going into the last two miles and we hit the wall at mile 20. Better suck down some Gu and pick up the pace.
Snap out of this funk Padres! 20 games left, it's now or never.
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The padres just look lifeless
I hope Jerry can get back to playing in the field soon and maybe provide some energy. I would also like to see Bud give Cunningham and Baxter a shot. Maybe they would actually play with an ounce of enthusiasm. Cunningham if I remember correctly had a great series in Colorado the last time we were there.
by Antonio Olivares on Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM PDT reply actions
Jerry
Actually works the count and makes the pitcher work. These 8 pitch innings by the opposing starter are getting old.
The team has lost 14 of 17
The manager can’t get his players to run out ground balls, and all the front office cares about is a f_____g exhibition soccer game. Are you kidding? Unf_____greal.
Ask any baseball player, any real baseball player. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 12, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions
Not in first place anymore there bud.
That’s what happens when you lose 13 of 17.
Blake Griffin.
by losbolts on Sep 12, 2010 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Look again, bud.
Ask any baseball player, any real baseball player. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 12, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Padres have the highest winning percentage in the division
Even if it is less than .1 % higher.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
There's nothing meaningless about being tied for first place.
If you really think it is, I’m not sure you belong here.
Do I?
Because I’m pretty sure I don’t.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
The worst part
Is that people at the games seem to be like “schucks, same old Padres” and dont really seem to care. Why isnt this team getting booed off the field. The last two weeks have been nothing but awful baseball.
If the manager and the players don't care, why should the fans?
Ask any baseball player, any real baseball player. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The real answer could involve turning this question around
The Pads have been one of the pleasant surprises in MLB this season, leading their division for, what, the last 3.5 months? And yet, they average only 25k a game, 19th of 30 teams.
The fans really haven’t supported this team at all, at least not in terms of attendance. I find this sad and troubling, but to imply that the managers and players don’t care is pretty dumb, when it seems, by all accounts, they’ve pretty much played over their heads all year, until the last couple of weeks.
ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus
There are a lot of people that don't believe in booing their own team
They want to believe that they’ll turn it around and not turn on their guys. Other people like to kick their team while they are down. Its just a difference in philosophy.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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I think we all are
it’s just really tough to exude confidence in this ballclub right now. They’re playing like crap and have completely choked away a 6.5 game lead in two weeks. I’m sure if we sweep the Rockies all the fans will be brimming with confidence again.
The Padres better pick it up, otherwise they may go from first place to third place in three days.
Here is the question:
Is this a very talented young team that is feeling the pressure (the choke) ?
or
Is this a team that needs to play Just exactly perfect, in order to win and is misfiring right now?
The atmospehere was very different when we beat the Dodgers...
Yesterday was really flat. Metric ton of Giants fans, though, but when we get down 2 runs, no-one believes we can come back.
by EnglishChris on Sep 13, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I was there at the game and it was brutal.
Some chick, who’s a Dodgers fan, was sitting next to my sis and I and she was rooting for the Padres until she realized it was hopeless and left. Sad
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
"Even Jedis don't stand a chance against our bullpen."
Of course she left.
She’s a Dodgers fan.
I need new pants.
by jodes0405 on Sep 12, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Funny thing is, her boy friend is a Giants fan.
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
"Even Jedis don't stand a chance against our bullpen."
And those combinations are why we have special needs schools for kids
ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus
by Mondogarage on Sep 12, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
Ask any baseball player, any real baseball player. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 12, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Serious question. Do you Padres fans like Petco Park
as far as a baseball going experience? I’ve been to a few games there now and it just doesn’t seem to have that “old-school baseball” feel to it.
2010 Colorado Zombies--It ain't over til it's over.
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act. I'm going to miss you most of all! Good luck with the Rays!
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by SDcat09 on Sep 12, 2010 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Coming from a guy whose team plays on the moon.
Ask any baseball player, any real baseball player. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 12, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, you are wrong on two points
1) My team doesn’t play on the moon
2) I’m not a guy.
And I didn’t mean it as a slam. I’ve gone to games with Padres fans, and they were saying that the feel wasn’t the same.
2010 Colorado Zombies--It ain't over til it's over.
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act. I'm going to miss you most of all! Good luck with the Rays!
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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What stadium built within the past 20 years
has the “old-school baseball” feel?
But I guess other people’s definition of what the old school baseball feel is can vary widely.
"You're like the nicest internet person I know." - theodore donald kerabatsos
I dunno. I guess I'm trying to figure out why your attendance is low with a team that's been winning
pretty easily.
I really didn’t mean it as a slam.
My issue with Petco is that it’s kind of a pain to get around and feel super modern…you know.
2010 Colorado Zombies--It ain't over til it's over.
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act. I'm going to miss you most of all! Good luck with the Rays!
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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*doesn't
2010 Colorado Zombies--It ain't over til it's over.
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act. I'm going to miss you most of all! Good luck with the Rays!
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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Oh no, I'm not really on the defensive
I’ve never been to Petco myself, so I don’t really know what you are talking about, haha
But the old school baseball feel can mean a lot of different things for a lot of different people. I mean, for me old school baseball is wooden bleachers, manual scoreboard, no video board, etc. But for someone else it can be something totally different.
"You're like the nicest internet person I know." - theodore donald kerabatsos
I like petco park
I think it’s a great stadium in a good location. Most people I talk to like petco park as well. I think the attendance problem has a lot to do with the two seasons prior to this one. The team cut payroll a ton and the padres stunk. Our attendance is up from last year. If they put a good team on the field again next year I’m sure attendance will continue to rise.
by Antonio Olivares on Sep 12, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It has nothing to do with the stadium
which is as nice or nicer than Coors. After 2 down years, ownership change (and salary dump) and in the midst of a recession – season ticket sales are way down, thus small crowds. Small crowds = shitty experience. I went to some games at Coors in 06 and it was sad. Hopefully the new ownership and better results will increase attendance and make the experience better.
"I post like canned meat."
I went to 3 games at Coors in early September 2007
And it was sad. I’m pretty sure that me and my bro were the only ones do any cheering for either team and the Padres lost 2 out of 3 that series.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I take that back
A bunch of Denver fans cheered a bunch when the Broncos kicked a game winning field goal to beat the Bills.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Well, Camden Yards, ATT Park (except the huge Coca Cola bottle)
Coors Field, even PNC Park…
You can leave out Citizens Band Box….
2010 Colorado Zombies--It ain't over til it's over.
Brad Hawpe - Thanks Brad, you were a class act. I'm going to miss you most of all! Good luck with the Rays!
"You can learn a lot just by watching"-Yogi Berra
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by SDcat09 on Sep 12, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
AT&T has an old school feel?
Does old school feel mean cramped, cold, smells like weed and has one of biggest scoreboards in all the major leagues? Also, it doesn’t feel too old school when you see the $50 charge for parking next to the stadium.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Yes
I’ve been to every stadium in CA plus ATL, DC, NYY (Original YS), NYM (Shea), and Arizona and I’d put Petco at #2 of all I’ve been too, behind only SF.
What exactly is the old school feel? No lights and black fans sitting in their own section?
by DiabloRojas on Sep 12, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I was THIS CLOSE to kicking random Giants fans in the balls.
What the hell is wrong with these assholes that makes them think they can come to our stadium and be total pricks? Do you walk into random strangers’ houses and take a dump in their living room? Just because we have made it easy and affordable to see your team play on the road without fear of bodily harm doesn’t mean you get to act like you were raised in a barn. Show some f__king respect.
P.S. Hey, Giants fans who weren’t even clapping during the military tribute, let alone standing? You’re gigantic tools.
Wow.
Assholes.
"Since we only live once (that we know of) we should focus on enjoying our lives, not stressing to follow every single thing and trend that society impose upon us." - Thom Yorke of Radiohead
by Jonathan Holmes on Sep 12, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
We've all come to agreement that Giants fans are WORSE than Dodgers fans.
The ushers agree as well. Big time.
It seems they don’t know how to act when they are winning.
So, they act like total shitheads.
They cuss out loud in front of kids. Harry told the guy to chill and he said he didn’t care.
They start fights.
They are loud and obnoxious.
I’m sure are some that know how to act. As a whole, they are crappy fans.
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
Agreed
If the Padres dont make the playoffs, I hope the Rockies are the team to go over the Giants.
by DiabloRojas on Sep 12, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I honestly don't know what to think.
Up until this series, I’d never had a problem with Giants fans at Petco, or in general, even. I went up to San Francisco for the series in May, and I didn’t get anything more than a friendly ribbing. And in the past when they’ve come here, it’s only been small pockets of jackasses, with most of them being pretty good. I think it’s partly the heat of the playoff race, and partly the anonymity of giant crowds making people feel like it’s okay to be a total f__kwit.
I mean, if you look at Dodgers/Cubs/Red Sox/Yankees fans, the common thread is that they show up in large groups and act like total shitheads.
In short: Go to hell, Giants fans.
by Darklighter on Sep 12, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I can pretty much say the same about the Giants fans
In the past I’ve just collected a few anecdotes about potsmoking Giants fans at Petco. The games were not highly attended (although I’ve always noticed more of a boost from Giants fans coming that say Rockies or Diamondbacks fans) or they were back when the Padres had a higher season ticket base and could outnumber opposing fans. I would say that at least half I encountered were with a significant other that was a Padres fan.
There seemed to be some differences with this crowd. The general asshattery has been discussed, but I also wonder if there is a different breed of Giants fan. Some of these fans are in their early 20s. That means that when the Giants went to the World Series they were in their early teens. They were barely born when the Giants made the series before that or when they had the great pennant race of 1993. They don’t remember the 49ers as anything other than cellar dwellers or possibly as the Mariucci plaoff one-and-dones. They aren’t used to winning or winning with dignity. I would imagine they’ve also grown up with everybody hating on Bonds, their best player and only hope for years. That might create a me against the world mentality that makes them feel entitled to rub whatever success they’ve had in others’ faces.
Pop Psychology Wonko out.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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giants fan here
i think the problem is, is there are a bunch of band wagon giants fans this year, and don’t know how to act properly
That's basically what I was getting at.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Who's pitchin' tomorrah?
"Get your hopes up. That's what hopes are for by the way, to get up. You don't get your hopes down, you get your hopes up." -Jeffrey Tambor
Luebke
Against Francis for Colorado, who is making his first start in like a month or something. He didn’t get to pitch a rehab game either since they needed him to replace the injured Cook. I read that he will likely be limited to 60-70 pitches which is good for us, get to their bullpen early in this series.
I like Luebke hopefully he gets another good start and Black keeps him in the rotation through September.
by Antonio Olivares on Sep 12, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
The way the Padres have been making pitchers work over the last 2 games, 60-70 pitches might be a complete game…
by DiabloRojas on Sep 12, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Do or Die in Coors
If the Padres can’t man up and win at Coors, then they’re screwed.
"Since we only live once (that we know of) we should focus on enjoying our lives, not stressing to follow every single thing and trend that society impose upon us." - Thom Yorke of Radiohead
by Jonathan Holmes on Sep 12, 2010 9:57 PM PDT reply actions
Rockies series can either get us rolling in the right direction again
Or send us to third place.
I really hope the Padres play with some passion and put some runs on the board. We need to win this series badly.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Sep 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions
Agree
That’s been my attitude during this rough stretch, Padres have been playing with house money all season long. I’m just bummed because only two weeks ago I thought we were a lock for the playoffs, now, we need to get our crap together fast.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Sep 12, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What the heck happened to Mat?
Did he have a bad day?
Is his arm done for the season?
He’d been lights out up to today since sometime in May.
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
We'll know the next start, but my guess is a bad day
All pitchers have them, we just forgot because it seemed Mat was incapable of pitching poorly Heck, look at Lincecum—he’s had a lot more bad starts than Mat this season. Just not today.
I think it was just a bad day.
When he got squeezed on what should have been strike 3 to Huff and then walked him, it probably threw him off, and then Posey homered and he couldn’t get back into the groove. I think he’ll be back to form for his next start.
by Darklighter on Sep 12, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
WHS
That was the killer, the innings should have been over.
HArd to beat the umpires & the other team, too.
by EnglishChris on Sep 13, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
He looked to me like he didn't have command of his breaking stuff
You can also combine that frustration with the umpire’s shitty day. Even the best pitchers have to pitch on days where they don’t have their best stuff. I get the feeling that maybe he hasn’t had a day like that in a long time. Poor timing for such a breakdown, but it happens. Garland sees it happen all the time. Hopefully Latos will learn to deal with it better or maybe we can just bank on it not happen that often to him.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I think it was just a bad day
He kept missing up in the zone, and couldn’t throw his breaking stuff for strikes. The giants were just sitting on the fastball and spitting on the breaking ball.
Hopefully he bounces back. I think he has a good idea of what went wrong and with Balsley’s help should get back on track.
Looks like he’ll match up with Lohse in STL. Hopefully the Pads can score some runs for him early and he’ll be able to relax.
by Antonio Olivares on Sep 13, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
After some thought
I hope this turns out like 2006 when the Dodgers won that miracle monday game with the 4 straight home runs to take over first, then the Padres went on and won the division anyway. I have about the same feeling of being kicked in the nuts now that I did in 2006, so maybe its a sign.
That team had fight in it
the Dodgers went out, hit 4 solo homers in a row. The Padres scored in the top of the 10th, and then Nomar ended it. The Padres showed some testicular fortitude not only by scoring in the very next inning, but winning the very next day when all you heard was ‘Padres are going to choke! They’re finished!’
What does this team do now? Lose more games.
Sack up, boys.
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