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Padres Attendance isn't helped by criticism of fans

It seems that just this week that Padres fans are being picked on for weak attendance numbers.  The Union-Tribune seems to be leading the charge and other sites and fans of other teams have picked up the ball and are running with it.

The Union Tribune may not be directly criticizing the fans but they seem to take their shots when they can.  Their own paper isn't helping or fostering fans by employing perpetual Foul Weather Fans like Nick Canepa, who never misses a chance to criticize the Padres.

Sez Me: Today could be the key to the entire Padres season. If Latos can't beat Arizona, the free fall may have begun.

Sez Me: Hooray for Jon Garland. Finally, a Padre with a spine.

Canepa didn't think Heath Bell showed some spine when predicting the Padres would be in first place and on their way to a World Series before the season started when everyone thought they'd be in dead last?  Of course not because that was a positive message.

I'm convinced that Canepa hates the team and would like nothing more than to see them fail so that he can be there waiting to say "I told you so."

Even Heath Bell is calling us out on his new twitter account:

I wanted to know where are the padre fans????????? Not at the park

I like Heath Bell and I'm thrilled that he can talk directly to fans through his twitter.  I think it's a great idea, I just think in this case he's not helping attendance with this particular message.

As a fan, does a player trying to shame you into attending increase your likelihood of buying a ticket? To me it's a total turn off. It's tacky and it sounds desperate. 

If you're a San Diegan that doesn't attend games why would you go and be lumped into a negative stereotype of uninterested fans?  You'd be mocked for jumping onto the bandwagon late instead of welcomed on board. It'd be easier just to distance yourself from the team and consider it someone else's problem.  Guilt trips don't sell tickets.

I'd be all for a message from a player saying they need our support through this tough stretch, but only if it was a more welcoming message with less question marks.

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It's probably the treehugger in me,

but I agree. If you’d like to encourage people to attend games, making them feel bad about NOT attending previously probably isn’t the most cunning of plans.

by scout1222 on Sep 10, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously

If I could, I’d be down there going to every single home game for the rest of the season. But I can’t. Way to make me feel even worse about it, Heater.

"You're like the nicest internet person I know." - theodore donald kerabatsos

by Jordan_Ming on Sep 10, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Season tickets are driving force behind attendance

Otherwise, they are depending on the undependable walk up crowd.

Padres are averaging 1395 more fans per game than last year, which is 6th best in MLB.

Coming off a horrible year and I seem to remember reading season ticket sales were down 20% from 09 – having an attendance increase at all is pretty good. Padres need to quit complaining and sell more season tickets…do you hear me Garfinkel? Come up with some creative promotions.

"I post like canned meat."

by Hormel on Sep 10, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

That's because

the attendance was dreadful last year too. But they were a 4th place team last year coming off a 99 loss season.
A team going from 4th place to first place should see a MUCH BIGGER increase than 1395. That type of scenario should spike the attendance 6-8,000.

by strummer on Sep 10, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, BUTT

BUTT. How many times do we have to hear fans bitch about the same ol’ penny-pinching Padres? Finally we have a winning team, and people don’t put their own money where their mouths are.

by Dalton on Sep 10, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Who ya talking to, Heath?

Are the twitter followers of Hearh Bell apathetic Padres fans?

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by Axion on Sep 10, 2010 5:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

There might be one or two

Heath is now up to 750 followers in 2 days.

I bet not one of them ran out and got a ticket because he gave them crap.

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by eastbaysd on Sep 10, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a player....

….to be a member of a team like this…a team that SHOULD be the biggest story in baseball and honestly one of the best stories in all of sports…to look up in the stands and see a crowd that small for a game that important…it has to be frustrating. I get it. And it’s Heath. He can’t help himself. As long as he keeps getting three outs in the ninth, he can call my mom a drunk and my wife a whore. Whatever….just bring me W’s.

As for Canepa? He can go f*ck himself. If there was a book called “Why The Newspaper Industry Is Dying” – Chapter One would simply be titled: Nick Canepa.

by Drama on Sep 10, 2010 5:23 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

They did not lose this town all at once

and they are not going to get it back, in one fell swoop. This year is the first step towards winning the town back and they will win it back.

by field39 on Sep 10, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

When's the GLB orgy at Petco?

are you guys gonna make signs for the rest of us to see on TV???

"I'll tell you about it because I am here and you are distant."

by The Kipper on Sep 10, 2010 5:54 PM PDT reply actions  

so many other factors

as Field commented “They did not lose this town all at once” . saying fan negativity has driven down attendance seems kind of silly to me.

Sooooo Stoked

by texpadre on Sep 10, 2010 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Where does he say that fan negativity has driven down attendance?

He’s just saying that it’s not helping to increase attendance.

I need new pants.

by jodes0405 on Sep 10, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

driven down attendance v. not helping to increase attendance

what is the difference ? BTW, how on earth do you measure fan negativity and its affect on attendance ?

Sooooo Stoked

by texpadre on Sep 10, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The difference

is that driving down attendance implies that attendance is… well, going down.

What jbox is suggesting is that calling out fans for not attending games isn’t actually going to convince fans to attend games. The average fan isn’t going to read comments like Bell’s and say, “Oh, I better start going to games!”

I’m not saying that Heath is wrong for saying what he did. He can and does say whatever the hell he wants. It’s one of the things we love most about him. But I agree that it doesn’t help the attendance problem.

As for measuring fan negativity and its effect on attendance… well, this isn’t exactly the first time Padres fans have been called out for not attending games this season. Has it helped? You tell me.

I need new pants.

by jodes0405 on Sep 11, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

what will work?

dude(s), we are in first…for now. i would LOVE for the boys to keep it that way. i cannot think of a better way to encourage that than to get out and show our colors. GO TO THE GAMES!!! It’s fun, I swear.

by derntootin on Sep 10, 2010 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Nick Canepa is a chumpasaurus

That is all

Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...

by sdchicken on Sep 10, 2010 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

How much more can I do?

I own a 4 seat 20Y package out in right-center boxes. I think my $1,600.00 is plenty to contribute. With my ticket, parking and concession money, I think I’ve contributed more than Capena or anyone at UT has for sure. I assume he gets in free and enjoys the pasta bar with the rest of the media.

All the fun is in the cheap seats!

by Section 135 on Sep 10, 2010 7:10 PM PDT reply actions  

The Padres are 1-3 in games I've attended this season

They can’t afford to lose any more games, that’s why I don’t go.

by LK13 on Sep 10, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Look Around

San Diego is a blue collar city with hard working men and women in the military; lots of folks working in the trades, people out of work. Not everyone can afford a ticket, parking, and a $7 beer. Players making millions of dollars a year shouldn’t complain about people coming out to the games. The Padres have more to worry about, like stopping their free fall, then worrying about the attendance.

by AlexAB on Sep 10, 2010 11:52 PM PDT reply actions  

um, no

Sorry but San Diego is far from a “blue collar” city —it’s one of the wealthiest cities/regions in the country and not nearly any blue collar jobs compared to say a detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Buffalo…you get the drift. They’re is 10% unemployment nationally, yet Colorado outdraws us for example.

Let’s face it — we’re a laid back, blase city of people who when it rains cry like the sky is falling. LOL. I live downtown and think this is one of most accessible, affordable game-day experiences in all of baseball. It’s pretty telling that the Padres can’t come close to 35,000+ fans for a huge series for 1st place in September. People here just don’t care about sports —simple as that. Look at the Chargers, they likely will have a few blackouts this year….

by 7th av on Sep 11, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

people here care about sports A LOT

Another explanation… people here don’t care about Padres baseball in 2010.

When you have the UT and national media CONSTANTLY talk about how little talent the team has, people put two and two together and figure, “If the baseball in 2004,2005,2006 was that boring in with talented teams, then it my suck all kinds of ass with an overachieving talentless team.”

Combine that with a lot of people who’ve moved here from out of town, who are passionate non-SD sports fans and you end up with issues.

by Dex on Sep 11, 2010 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're kind of hitting on it.

I find your team’s situation similar to the Rockies in 2007, when at the start of the season, all we heard from the media was how hopeless the team was going to be, how we should all boycott as fans because our owners were so cheap, etc… The increase in tickets that year didn’t start happening until the last couple of homestands and then it just got kind of crazy. I think all this hemming and hawing about your attendance situation is probably much ado about nothing. I’m guessing the Padres will see a bump in season tickets next year and as long as your team keeps on this winning course and your owners don’t go all Loria on your franchise, the fans will come back.

by Rox Girl on Sep 12, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cheaper Things To Do

“Colorado outdraws us for example”

Yes, but what else is there to do? San Diego (and Southern California in general) offers a lot of free or cheap things to do besides spend $40 or more per person at a Padre game.

by Slimjimmy on Sep 11, 2010 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I take it you've never been to Colorado.

I hate to break this to you, but there are probably as many free or cheap recreational opportunities around Denver as there are around San Diego.

by Rox Girl on Sep 12, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Q

Great article. Yet another reason (and there is an impressive list of explantions for) the lower-than-expected attendance figures at PETCO. Negativity from players & sports writers doesn’t help attendance; that’s for sure!

While there is no single explanation for the shortage of fans in the seats, from what I’ve read here and heard discussed, there are two Padre assumptions that are being challenged: #1 – “Build it (PETCO) and they will come,” and #2 “People only back a winner.”

#1: I’m guessing that the Padres overestimated fan response to a new stadium. Sure, we came the first year because it was a bright, shiny new “thing.” But PETCO isn’t going to draw fans consistently because of its LOCATION. It’s great for those living downtown or visiting there (staying in hotels, for instance) or who enjoy the nightlife before/after. But for those of us coming from outside the downtown area (North County, for instance) it’s a major PAIN to get to PETCO through the maze of traffic lights. There’s always the question of which parking garage will be filled first, necessitating a search for another. Then run the gauntlet of street & trolley crossings, panhandlers, and partygoers, and it is much less fan-friendly than the Q. Ah, the Q. The Q was much easier to get to, there were those tailgate parties that made it fun to BE there. 25,000 a game at the Q? the “old” Padres would have been giddy about that.

BTW, comparing the Padres to the Chargers won’t work (apples & oranges). 82 home games vs. a handful. Petco vs. the Q. Show home games live on TV vs. blackouts for home games that aren’t sold out. If the Chargers build a fancy stadium downtown, it will quickly become a “white elephant.” Location, guys.

#2: there’s money in SD, sure, but are THOSE the fans who are your bread-and-butter fan base? I don’t think so. Those higher ratings for the TV / radio broadcasts show the interest is UP. We’re watching you, Mr. Bell … it’s just from the safety/comfort/convenience of our home. Dropping the price of a ticket (as the Padres have done this year) isn’t going to reduce the “real” cost of attending a Padre game (parking/concessions).

If Mr. Bell and other Padres (including management) REALLY want to understand why the Padre faithful are NOT showing up at PETCO … ask us! You’ll definitely get an earful. These are not excuses … they’re genuine explanations. Please, don’t bite the hand that feeds you, guys.

by Roadlesstrvled on Sep 11, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree with Heath!

Have you been to any of those “Giants” games? Did the Padres fans get a strange feeling they were cheering for the away team. I bet it is pretty unsettling to be a ball player and be mainly booed as you come on the field to get your 40th save of the season.

Honestly, if there is no fan dedication to the team, why should the team be dedicated to the fans?

by Michael Choi on Sep 13, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

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