A billion runs stand between the Padres and a win
by jbox on Aug 30, 2010 10:26 PM PDT
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PrintSo I was listening to Coach John Kentera on his post game show on XX 1090. This guy Jay from Escondido is the first caller. Get this, he says the Padres are done. It's all over according to Jay, he says the pitchers have tired out, the team has overachieved and the Padres will not win the NL West. This is coming from a "Padres fan" mind you.
Foul Weather Fandom is alive and well in San Diego and Escondido for that matter. It's a disease and it is spreading. What kind of cheap thrill do these fans get from taking 5 losses in a row and turning it into a doomsday scenario. The Padres haven't lost 5 games in a row since July 2009. They ignore everything good that has happened this year and just focus on the being miserable people and trying to make everybody else miserable. If you don't believe in the Padres at least have the decency to shut up and whatever you do don't call into talk radio shows.
About a week ago Bob Scanlan had something to say during Channel 4's Postgame that I thought was great. I wish I would have written it down, because he's so eloquent and I don't want to misquote him. Keep in mind this was a week ago when the Padres were in first place and had the best record in the National League, not like today -- actually we're still in first place with the best record in the NL. Fans were feeling confident and asking Scanlan why ESPN and all the East Coast Media wasn't giving the Padres their proper respect. Scanlan told them not to worry about the people on the East Coast who don't believe in the Padres, there are fans right here in San Diego that still don't believe in the Padres. He's right as usual.
Anyway if you missed it Miguel Tejada put the Padres in the lead early with a 2 run shot. The Padres scoring stopped there, though they sure as hell were able to leave plenty base runners stranded. Wade LeBlanc left everything over the plate and didn't pitch inside once. He got hammered. He was pulled. The game was pretty much over at that point, but not the season necessarily.
Go Padres!
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Silver lining
LOLGiants blew another one, so all is well
"Winfield goes back to the wall, he hits his head on the wall and... it rolls off! It's rolling all the way back to second base! This is a terrible thing for the Padres." - Jerry Coleman
by FriarFaithful4Life on Aug 30, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions
Cody Ross blew it
The rest of the Giants must be pissed.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
The Rockies need to do a little more tomorrow to try and help us out
Routine flyballs don’t turn into 2 runs every day.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
um...
if the rockies sweep this series then we don’t have to worry about the giants… but
THEN WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ROCKIES!!! That would suck.
We just need to win.
I'd rather worry about the Rockies at 5 back
Than the Giants at 3 back. But, yeah, I’d rather win and make those numbers different.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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Great stuff
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Aug 30, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
What have you become?
Relying on your widgets and doodads. The old jbox would construct the box score from discarded corn dog sticks and condiments.
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by Axion on Aug 30, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
FOULWEATHERS MAKE ME RAGE.
I feel like I may have cussed a lot in the OT tonight. I apologize. Padres “fans” just frustrate the hell out of me sometimes.
I need new pants.
Padres fans bandwagoners frustrate the hell out of me sometimes.
fix’d
"Winfield goes back to the wall, he hits his head on the wall and... it rolls off! It's rolling all the way back to second base! This is a terrible thing for the Padres." - Jerry Coleman
by FriarFaithful4Life on Aug 31, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Padres need to figure out a way to break outta this slump
They need a super special “slumpbuster”.
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
That slumpbuster probably isn't named Ian Kennedy
And that sucks. And blows.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
It would be cool
if the Padres did that thing where the matchup didn’t look good and they persevered anyway.
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I'm just saying
Of all the slumpbusters we could try to come up with. Ian Kennedy would probably be in my bottom 10 right now.,
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Are you saying he's attractive?
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No.
He’s plays for a division rival. These things are mutually exclusive. I’ve been over this.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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o rite
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How could I forget the Conor Jackson Chronicles?
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Tomorrow is going to be tough
But I think this team understands that a win is badly needed and gets the job done.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Aug 30, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the team has understood this for a while
It just hasn’t happened yet.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Can't believe this hasn't been TWSS'd yet...
TWSS
"Winfield goes back to the wall, he hits his head on the wall and... it rolls off! It's rolling all the way back to second base! This is a terrible thing for the Padres." - Jerry Coleman
by FriarFaithful4Life on Aug 31, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
The Coach now has a twitter account, btw
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I hope he's got email notifications turned off
Actually, I don’t. :D
Everyone give him a Gaslamp Ball hello by following him.
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For those people hating
We still have the best record in the NL, shouldn’t matter how we got there, just that we are there.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Aug 30, 2010 10:42 PM PDT reply actions
I have to admit that its hard to watch.
We were due for a bad spell. I “Believe” but that doesn’t mean I have to be in a good mood with unicorns, puppy dogs and ice cream when we are losing, NOR does it mean that I am a fairweather fan or foulweather fan.
I am a fan, pure and simple. I don’t like seeing us suck, and I like to criticize when we lose… it makes me feel better. I would go to games no matter what. I have been to 15 this year.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
I don't even know who this "Jay from Escondido" is, but he sounds like a douche
Padres will win again. Dink by motherf___ing dink!
Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...
Jay......buddy
you’ve got to be one crazy fool to be hating on these Pads. I’m with Ted Leitner- this is the most exciting Padres season that has ever happened, period. If you don’t believe in this team right now, you must be one jaded S.O.B. who hasn’t been following this team for the past few years. So now might be a good time to skip town, lock yourself in a closet, or just shut up for the next two months.
The Pads will pick themselves up. If any team can persevere, it’s these Pads.
by recorddigger on Aug 31, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The fact that we haven't experienced a slump like this since the bginning of the year
is a testament to the way the Padres have been playing up to this point.
We’ll find our way out.
"Since we only live once (that we know of) we should focus on enjoying our lives, not stressing to follow every single thing and trend that society impose upon us." - Thom Yorke of Radiohead
by Jonathan Holmes on Aug 31, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Padres just need to get hot again
See, we’re stuck at ~24C. That is not going to cut it.
Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...
by sdchicken on Aug 30, 2010 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Very frustrating last 5 days
But were not going to fold. We’re too good. Tomorrow we will prevail cuz its the f_____g friar b___h
by thepadfather on Aug 31, 2010 12:19 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
so the draw looks tough
trying to end this slump against kennedy. But we started it with him. lets end it with him. Anything can happen and I’m sure not writing this season off. To those that are…I hope the fall off the bandwagon isn’t too hard…wait..I hope your fall is VERY hard!
Arg.
"Get your hopes up. That's what hopes are for by the way, to get up. You don't get your hopes down, you get your hopes up." -Jeffrey Tambor
We'll be fine...
mainly because the Giants aren’t capitalizing.
Winning tonight would be good, though.
Chris
SportsCenter was talking about how the Cardinals
can’t rely on Pujols and Holliday to manufacture all their runs. “They really need another guy in that lineup that can drive them in, the need Ryan Ludwick.” I LOL’d. You see, this move to aquire Ludvig was more about disabling the Cardinals, who have pwned us in the playoffs, and less about protection for Adrian.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
A nice move by Hoyer to weaken the Redbirds.
Now if only Ludwick would produce….
"Since we only live once (that we know of) we should focus on enjoying our lives, not stressing to follow every single thing and trend that society impose upon us." - Thom Yorke of Radiohead
by Jonathan Holmes on Aug 31, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Glad my post got deleted
and that troll post along with it. Nothing makes me madder than trolls. Except Dodgers.
Dodgers then trolls.
And Andy Matchum, you know what you did.
Andy Matchum, Dodgers, then trolls.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
What did
Andy Matchum do to get on your s#%t list?
"Since we only live once (that we know of) we should focus on enjoying our lives, not stressing to follow every single thing and trend that society impose upon us." - Thom Yorke of Radiohead
by Jonathan Holmes on Aug 31, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
HE KNOWS WHAT HE DID
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
will someone define "fair weather" fan
This is one of my main annoyances with this site. Apparently voicing concerns about the Padres is a “fair weather” type of thing? Everyone here, trolls excluded, want the Padres to win. But, unless you say, “We are going to kick ass no matter what”, you are fair-weather. Saying “Crap, we’re screwed for sure”, may be someone voicing their fears, not actually hoping for the Padres to fold. Not particularly insightful or useful, but still a view.
And, whichever position you take, it would be nice to drop in some data/analysis behind your opinion when appropriate, rather than a virtual back and forth without any insight.
I am personally very anxious about the upcoming stretch. We had a nice lead develop very quickly (~2 to 5-6), so it seems plausible it could go away just as quickly. The Rockies are a good team and have a history of late season charges. And the Giants are a solid team. I am holding my breath. We win as a cohesive team, and it needs each of the components firing: solid starting pitching, lights out relief, smart baserunning, situational hitting and of course, great D. When some of those components struggle, we look weak. Credit the coaches and players for maintaining these all season and expect them to pull it back together, but I expect it is going to be much tighter than we would like.
I love this year’s team and franchise and have been going through their ups and downs for since the 70s, so feel like my loyality to the team runs pretty deep.
by jayman66 on Aug 31, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I’ve got no problem with Fair Weather Fans. They ignore the Padres when they’re playing badly and jump on the bandwagon when they play well. The get excited when things get exciting.
I have a problem with Foul Weather Fans. They ignore everything positive that the Padres have done and instead wait for a rough patch and then criticize and the hell out of the team and tell everyone that you knew they were going to fail all season.
but sometimes it seems like a complaint labels someone as foul weather
I often see posts where people gripe about something the Padres aren’t doing well, and, then, later, seeing people, often you, complaining about foul weather fans (thanks for the correction vs. “fair weather”).
predicting the padres demise from standpoint of “i told you so” is annoying. but fretting that suddenly some of the components that got us here are running out of a steam seems normal to me and part of healthy dialog about the team. i don’t see much distinction between the two. either you one is very positive (we’ll get them tomorrow!) or one is a foul weather fan. not seeing a ton in between. to me, and i may be in the minority, it stifles the conversation.
by jayman66 on Aug 31, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Please
This is the kind of foulweather crap we don’t need. That was in the 4th inning. That’s not healthy dialog, that’s just being negative.
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by Axion on Aug 31, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thats poop.
Yeah it was the 4th inning and we were down by four. Did you want me to be happy? I said “I cannot believe we are going to lose 5 in a row”. It certainly looked that way. I would have been more than happy to eat crow, and be wrong.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
I didn’t say you had to be happy. I’m aware of what you said because I linked it. Sure, it looked that way, but if you’re going to say ridiculous things like that before it’s even late in the game, at least be wise enough that people aren’t going to appreciate it.
What’s worse is you’re trying to act like that’s healthy dialog. Later in the thread, you said you were pissed off because Wade didn’t “learn” that he has to keep the ball down. Give me a break.
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by Axion on Aug 31, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
So critizing a pitcher isn't healthy dialogue?
Get with the program. You linked it but blew it out of proportion. I could not believe we were going to lose 5 in a row. Others agreed. (see the next comment).
What I don’t like is that: The idea that I cannot believe it looked like we were going to lose 5 in a row, and I think Wade is elevating his pitches = foul weather.
Its not, give me a break. I react the way I do because I love this team, not because I hate it. I mostly project positive vibes but we are in a slump, and it pisses me off which makes me negitive.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Hahaha, oh wow.
It’s not as blown out of proportion as it was to declare a loss in the 4th inning.
You really can’t believe the Padre could lose 5 games in a row? This makes me question how much baseball you’ve actually watched. After all, teams have losing streaks.
You were complaining that Wade doesn’t know how to pitch, which operates on the assumption that knowing equals being able to execute. This is a ridiculous misconception, and is not the same thing as saying that you think he’s elevating his pitches.
Nobody’s saying you’re not allowed to be upset, that’s the furthest thing from the truth. But you must consider your timing as well as be educated about what it is you’re actually upset about.
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by Axion on Aug 31, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Its taken till August to lose 5 in a row.
That equals disbelief.
As for Wade sucking, he has been. I was his earliest and greatest advocate. I don’t give two squirts of piss if its executing or being stupid the suck is there. I am perfectly educated as to why I am upset. I just think you like puppy dogs and rainbows too much.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
It isn't about Wade sucking
It’s about you being angry that you think Wade doesn’t know how to pitch, that he hasn’t learned something. That’s just irrational… and you can be upset about irrational things, but I reserve the right to mock you for it.
If you’re upset about Wade sucking, simply say so, and this doesn’t happen. Don’t imply that he hasn’t “learned” something simply because he isn’t executing. Frankly, it’s impossible for someone to get to the big leagues without knowing that elevated pitches are bad pitches to throw.
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by Axion on Aug 31, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't care if you mock me.
Nor do I really think I care what kind of a fan you think I am. To say I am foul weathered means to say that you think I have always thought the team sucks and that their collapse is inevidable. I don’t I think Wade hasn’t learned from Milwaukee, and isn’t aggressive. And I think you like Care Bears.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
“To say I am foul weathered means to say that you think I have always thought the team sucks and that their collapse is inevidable.”
Nice straw man, I’m going to sidestep this because it’s pointless.
I don’t I think Wade hasn’t learned from Milwaukee
I’m going to guess at what you’re trying to say, and finish by telling you that it takes more than “learning” that elevated pitches are bad to be able to pitch. You obviously know this, how come you’re not pitching?
I’ll venture to guess it’s because you don’t have the ability to execute.
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by Axion on Aug 31, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or side step because you are wrong.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Yes, that’s right, I’m wrong about the argument you said I made, but didn’t actually make. That’s what makes it a straw man and pointless.
It’s pretty clear you can’t handle this level of discussion with your level of comprehension. I’m done with you.
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by Axion on Aug 31, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
What specifically are you talking about?
You weren’t in last night’s OT.
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i can try to dig up more specific examples
It was a general observation, not specific to one night. It has been an ongoing trend. It was an honest question about what is a “foul weather fan”. If it is someone sounding negative about what is going on, well, I think commentors feel that way some of the time, and, in my opinion ought to feel free to post it without being harrassed.
jbox seemed to imply (in his response to me) that someone crosses over into FoulWF-dom when they go way over the top, only comment when the team is struggling, seem to relish the struggles and suggest that the struggles are a manifestation of something they had figured out before others, so a kind of “told you so” vibe.
I read the comments pretty regularly but am an intermittent poster (usually watch games online after the fact because of my schedule), but I have not seen too many or any posters that seem like they should be censured, which the FoulWF monicker seems to do.
Well you're saying you don't see the difference
and I’d like to know what you were looking at, because it seems pretty clear cut to me. It’s not as simple as “anyone fretting is foulweather” and that seemed to be your complaint. I think, generally of course, we’re very fair to anyone voicing legitimate concerns. It’s the negative rhetoric that we don’t enjoy, and that’s a detriment to conversation about the team, as opposed to an insightful contribution.
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My two cents...
I can see where you’re coming from jayman. I understand your concerns. But I’ve also been in certain OT’s (especially from past seasons) where the negativity spirals out of control and it becomes depressing. We’re not baseball scouts, we fans. We’re posting in these OT’s to have fun. If it’s not fun, what’s the point? And believe me, there have been plenty of OT’s that I’ve just put my laptop away and watched the game without it because the OT had become not fun.
There are times when I’m watching the games (particularly during the latest streak) where I’m ready to pull my freaking hair out because of how much we suck and how stupid we’re playing. But I refrain from posting that stuff because it leads to a downward spiral of negativity.
We’re here because we’re fans. And in past seasons where we really did suck, it was perfectly acceptable to say that we suck. But this is as good as it gets around here, and the people who have been in OT’s that turn into a black hole of suck know how quickly the negativity can pile up. Trust me, we are all frustrated when LeBlanc is tossing meatballs over the plate. But if all decide to start posting crappy comments about how much he sucks, and the team sucks, and Bud sucks… etc. etc… it’ll get real depressing in hurry.
Everyone feels the frustration, but let’s all remember why we’re here: To be fans and to have fun.
(also, to flirt inappropriately with girls who may or may not be of age)
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
well said
I usually avoid GLB and OT’s when the Padres are sucking, which sounds like fair-weatherism, I guess, but it’s really so I don’t get crap for any contribution that isn’t positively delusional. (How many games in a row now have people incorrectly claimed ‘we will win tomrrow!’?) Also, I get insanely frustrated when the Padres fail, so not only do I not want to bring people down around here – like the ones who can’t deal with a negative comment in an OT – I don’t want to have my spirits artificially lifted by all the “ra-ra, everything is fine, anyone who doesn’t think so can SUCK IT” nonsense.
Every time “foul-weatherism” gets mentioned on GLB it depresses me to think that I’M LIKE THAT. I can’t help it if I think the Padres suck/are doomed after tough losses or a losing streak or yet another series loss to a competitive team not from the Bay Area. I think it’s bullsh*t that anyone who isn’t completely enamored with the Padres, 100% of the time, to an intoxicated extent, is considered less than a fan. As a fan, that hurts.
by LJbumfool on Aug 31, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
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