Around the Mission: 7/9 Padres Links
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Padres fall short, Cliff Lee trade, other second-half predictions - Joe Sheehan - SI.com
"Despite its current lofty standing, San Diego will not win the NL West or the NL wild card, as its worst-case scenario comes to pass." (Hat Tip: Ducksnorts) -
PADRES: He's in the zone
"I told him, 'You have the potential to be a No. 1. You have the potential, when we lose a few games, to be that stopper, that ace that we know we can ride.' ... With Mat, we have a chance to win every single outing." -
Latos goes deep, shuts down Nationals | padres.com: News
Mat Latos threw seven scoreless innings of five-hit ball as the Padres defeated the Nationals, 7-1, at Nationals Park on Thursday night. He also contributed with his bat, going 2-for-3, including his first career homer.
Gwynn sits out with bruised left heel | padres.com: News
Tony Gwynn was not in the starting lineup for the Padres on Thursday because of a bruised left heel suffered Wednesday against the Nationals.
Adrian clicking again at the dish | padres.com: News
After a short period of struggling at the plate, Padres slugger Adrian Gonzalez has again found his rhythm.
Black confident about second half | padres.com: News
Padres manager Bud Black was asked about why his team would succeed in the second half of the season. His response? Consistency.
Latos climbing into upper class - SignOnSanDiego.com
"When the chance is there, I want to go out there every time and stop the losing streak," said Latos. "I don’t care if it is one loss or two or three. That we had lost two straight going into this game, that stuck in the back of my mind."
Top four pitching picks still unsigned - SignOnSanDiego.com
"We’re progressing with (Karsten) Whitson and (Zach) Cates," McLeod said this week.
The Official Blog of Matt Antonelli: SPRING TRAINING TRIP
"It feels like an eternity ago, but more than five months back my girlfriend and I made a 45 hour drive across the country from Boston, Massachusetts to Peoria, Arizona for Spring Training."
Latos Stops Nats With Arm And Bat
"I’ve really tried to pound the strike zone and get (batters) to swing early in the count," said Latos, "That has been the biggest change since the beginning of the year."
Meg Whitman Fails To Vote on All-Star Game, Reserves Comments on Padres Snubs
"We all want recognition, whether it’s for ourselves or for the players we spend an inordinate amount of time supporting."
Unfinished Business: Solid Baseball
"In my mind, I have no doubt that we will sustain our first-place lead. I don't see any reason at all for us to suddenly go bad in the second half. "
Dodging Ubaldo :: Friar Forecast
"Thus, what we have here, in my estimation, is an occurrence where the Rockies’ Manager let an impending exhibition game affect his on-field decision-making. Was it a harmless decision? Only time will tell. "
The Friarhood - Friarhood Radio 7.8.10
"This week on Friarhood Radio Steve was joined by Dan Hayes (@NCTPadres) Padres writer for the North County Times. Dan gave his thoughts on the Padres first half, injuries and trades."
Avenging Jack Murphy: Jake Peavy Detached His What?
"I hope the best for Jake but as a Padres fan I always hope for what's best for me, first and foremost. So thanks to Kevin Towers for dumping Jake's salary and penchant for injuries......detached Lat? Ouch!"
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Why do I get the feeling
When a politician says something like “the players we spend an inordinate amount of time supporting”, that they are talking down to me?
She does know that “inordinate” is the same as “excessive” and refers to an amount that is too great to be reasonable.
Basically, we’re being called unreasonable. Thems fighting words.
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Exactly
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wait where does that quote appear in that article, cause that article is all fake.
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Damn
Not clicking on links bites me again. She didn’t say anything. The quote is from the writer.
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mm hmm
this is why i work in this business. and why the internet is such a dangerous den of festering rumor vipers.
FORSHAME!!!
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by justdave on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever
I’m not going to feel bad for trying to take an ill-informed pot shot at some over-entitled rich lady. She can take it.
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She still bought Skype
without buying the software patent. lol.
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must add "festering"
as in “festering rumor vipers”
Saying it makes me giggle.
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
Sheehan doesn't even know who our shortstop is
I’m not worried about anything he is predicting in that article.
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by icaughthundleys#4 on Jul 9, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions
What, were you expecting a well researched article?
Internet research would of added an entire hour to to his effort, effectively quadrupling the time he spent on the article.
He also predicts that something that has never happened before in excruciating detail
“Captain!”
“What is it, seaman?”
“Epic fail off the port bow!”
“EPIC FAIL! BATTLE STATIONS!”
Sheehan, shmeehan.
the team’s top trade chits.
lol
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Sheehan's position is a valid one
but I think he focuses on the wrong things. For example, he thinks we want to trade for a shortstop and left-handed outfielder.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
Plus Hoyer recognizes that our biggest need is for a starting pitcher
rather than offense.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't get the left hand OF thing either
If you wanted to platoon Hairston you could platoon him with Gwynn or Venable and go out an find a bat that could play LF every day. Finding a platoon partner wouldn’t be a significant enough impact to be at the top of the shopping list.
As for SS, how many teams have found an upgrade at starting SS midseason? That pretty much sounds impossible to me.
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Ryan Theriot?
He’s available but I don’t know the price and I don’t know how much of an upgrade he’d be.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
He's not an upgrade.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Just as an FYI
Apparently I had some thoughts on this before:
Theriot would be an upgrade offensively at SS. He’d be a downgrade defensively based on what Jerry Hairston is doing, but Hairston isn’t the most fundamentally sound SS (and maybe could go downhill on his defensive production) and Theriot doesn’t hurt you out there (he just hasn’t been as good as Hairston’s been). I’m not really thinking about what it would take to get Cubs middle infielder, but the link talks about the Mets being in the running and we have better prospects than they do. Theriot will not be a free agent until 2013 so he’d around for a while and the Padres would be on the hook for some pay raises in the coming years. Just throwing all that out there.
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I think
Jerry did go downhill somewhat from that point, but I’m not sure to what degree. In the same vein, Theriot doesn’t play as much SS as he used to.
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But doesn't Theriot/Eckstein
sound like a descent middle infield with Cabrera to spell. That way he has more time to develop in the big leagues.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
My personal preference
would be to stick with Jerry. Any upgrade that Theriot could offer would be so marginal as to be almost meaningless, and we’d lose whatever it took to acquire him.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
actually, I think he could be a significant offensive upgrade
but not sure what I would give up to acquire him since he could also be a minor upgrade. I would give up very little…
Theriot has never been more than ~1.5 Wins above replacement
So even if you used him as a replacement for a replacement level hitter midseason and you got him to play at his best, you’re still only getting less than a win of production. That doesn’t seem significant.
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Not really
Playoffs are a maximum of 19 games. That .176 Wins Above Replacement over that span.
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Precisely.
The only things he’s right about are that our rotation is due to regress somewhat, and the other teams in the division are good. I don’t think that’s new to anyone, especially our FO. Again, all the public focus is on our need for offense, despite Hoyer’s public statements to the contrary.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
The worst case scenario
was 100 losses this year, period. If we fall a bit short, are we supposed to wish that we hadn’t gotten to watch that exciting baseball all year long and had instead given up on the season before it started, enjoyed watching 100 losses, and hoped that one day we would actually get to contend again?
Plus, it’s not like Adrian and Heath are free agents after the year. If we really want to trade them and rebuild, we can try again after the season or at the halfway point of next season. The return might be slightly worse, but it would not have been worth it to give up an exciting season of contention for a slightly better return.
Cliff Lee deal
With Lee apparently going to the Yankees, Javier Vasquez is expendable and could be a good acquisition. He’s had his best success in the National League in pitchers’ parks, so he could return somewhat to his form from last year, and he shouldn’t cost a top, top prospect (definitely not Simon Castro, who was #17 on BA’s midseason prospect update).
He can block trades to the NL West
and hates it here, apparently.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Some History
Vazquez was traded from the Yankees to the DBacks in the Randy Johnson deal. He played 1 year there and absolutely hated being that far from the east coast. The old CBA allowed players on multiyear contracts to demand trades in the offseason. If the team did not trade you by the start of the next season you became a free agent. Vazquez was the last player in MLB history to exercise this clause and was traded to the White Sox for Chris B. Young, Orlando Hernandez and Luis Vizcaino.
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Has anyone tossed around the idea of Wandy Rodriguez?
The guy hasn’t had the best year but he is a good pitcher.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
Houston though.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
They're delusional
and would want way, way more than he’s worth. For example, in exchange for Oswalt they’ve been asking for three MLB-ready players and for the team to take on all of his salary.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
you must be joking....
THREE?
wow….
they are just SOOOOOOO STOOOOOOPID
Maybe One MLB + two prospects…. maybe….
Seller usually means
You trade of your more expensive players or your players close to free agency. Wandy is neither of those things.
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Sure, we've talked about it before
I don’t really see Houston’s motivation to trade him. And, if they did his value would be great enough that the Padres probably wouldn’t give up all the prospects it would take.
Plus, its Houston and their GM is a wild card.
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They won't return my calls.
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I don't think Houston has anybody's number.
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by Boilermaker19 on Jul 9, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
That's Brian Sabean.
No one can get ahold of him, apparently.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Sabean takes my calls all the time
He likes to laugh at me for liking players that get on base and don’t get out.
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We should totally trade for Greinke.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions
Royals say
They want Castro, Cumberland, Hundley, Gregerson and Richard.
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Or
Cumberland, Latos, Gregerson and Luebke.
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Zach says
/joke
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
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Hooray!
Back to mediocrity in a couple of years.
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2 years of Grienke for Castro Cumberland Hundley Gregerson and Richard
How would we be going back to mediocrity. Castro and Cumberland are far away from sure things, Hundley is a platoon catcher, Gregerson is a reliever who is having a good season and will probably regress and Richard is a good number 4 starter. I wouldn’t even take that if i was the Royals, but if they did I would do it in a second.
All of those players
Are pretty key pieces to our team going forward past 2010 and 2011. Right now we are reliant on guys like Adrian, the Hairstons, Torrealba, Garland, Bell, Adams, Gwynn and Eckstein. Most of those guys won’t be here past 2011 (or even 2010). So, you’d be charged with not only replacing those players but replacing the ones you traded for Greinke. You’d be left with a lot of holes to fill. Depth is an important part of building a franchise.
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I wish Mike had a longer contract than one year
I know even if the Padres sign him again after this season, it
may only be for one year again. :(
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That's not quite how it is
Mike Adams in essence has a contract with the Padres through 2013. The one year contract he has just determines what his salary is for that year.
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This is what they mean
When they talk about the “Arbitration Years”
The player can’t become a free agent without team consent, however his salary will increase every year (and possibly become prohibitive enough for the team to trade or release him).
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Correct. Through 2013
He cannot become a free agent until after 2013 or the Padres decide to let him become a free agent by releasing him (or in baseball transaction parlance: “non-tender him”).
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I get what you are saying and took that into consideration
I just don’t think that replacing a back end starter, a bullpen arm and a platoon catcher are positions that can’t be filled by league average replacement players. It would be hard to give up on Castro and Cumberland but you have to give something to get something
You are underestimating the difficulty in replacing a "a back end starter, a bullpen arm and a platoon catcher"
Your use of the oxymoronic “league average replacement players” seems to be the root of the problem.
Replacement players are easy to find. League average players are expensive.
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And to further clarify
Richard, Hundley and Gregerson are all above league average at this point.
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With Petco in play
Pitching really won’t be that hard to find. There is a reason pitchers such as Adam Eaton had a career years when they pitched in Petco park
This is also an oversimplification.
Adam Eaton’s career year was not because of Petco Park.
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You could be right
but Petco does help pitchers and there have been a lot of pitchers that just happened to have career years or better than average years while pitching half their games at Petco.
That is true
But it also does the same to the opposing pitchers. So it balances out. You still need better pitching than the opposition.
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Yes Petco does the same to opposing pitchers
But to find league average pitching for the padres, it doesn’t really matter what opposing pitchers do here does it?
Why not?
If I have a league average pitcher and the opposing team counters with a league average pitcher in the same game, then they will both pitch in the same park.
The only way that case makes sense is if you’re saying a league average pitcher will play for the Padres for less, therefore they are easier to acquire for us than for others. So far, that hasn’t really been the case though.
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Fair point
I was speaking more in terms or pitching in Petco for 13-17 starts per season with the added park effects make pitchers more likely to become league average then pitchers who have to play at Chase Field.
You don't become league average
Just because your numbers get better from your home ballpark. You will still perform worse that a league average pitcher would in the same situation.
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Are we saying that numbers don't make a player league average?
Or the numbers/statistics that we should pay attention to take park effects into account?
by thepadfather on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If you take into account park effects
Then you’re fine. But, if you take into account park effects then your theoretical below league average guy will still have below league average numbers.
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Perhaps I shouldn't have said a lot of pitchers happened to have career years
at petco I didn’t do any research. It does seem that way though, I suppose that my perception and the stats do not match up
I wish we had some idea how much salary they were willing to take on.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT reply actions
whatever gets us to start with the number 4 for payroll
One less thing for people to complain about.
Padres payroll - 37.8 mil
minus 6.375 for CY – a good chunk is covered by insurance
fielding a 31.4 team
we need about 9 mil to get us to 40 – so we have about 9 mil to spend
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I'm skeptical
That CY’s contract was insured. It’s tough to get insurance on players these days.
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I think in a recent interview with Hoyer, he said it was insured.
But, he wouldn’t disclose the amount that the team would receive.
that is what I am basing this off of...
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/120793
figure the Padres will get 3 to 5 mil for CY – includes cost of premium
That leaves the Padres 5.2 to 7.2 mil to spend
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That's kind of my thought
I just don’t see how they could get insurance on a player that has been injured in one way or another for every season of his major league career (even going back to the Rangers).
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they would have taken it out on the first year of his contract
which would run thru this year – see the inside the padres article link above
The article says insurance usually covers 50% to 80% of the contract and costs around 10% of their salary. Do the math.
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this is figuring the Padres are not stupid
and did insure their highest paid player
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I don't think its a matter of stupid
I just don’t think its a common practice to be able to get that kind of insurance.
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you are right, however
“Most insurance policies “cover three-year intervals and are renewable”
I just can’t see them not insuring CY – no matter what the premium costs – and Hoyer said they do insure their players…
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Fake Money is Not Really Money
Monopoly guy.
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it is all fake money to me
we are talking contracts worth millions while I figure out which 2 for 1 coupon I want to use for lunch
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Fake Fake Money is Not Really Fake Money
Monopoly guy.
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by Wonko on Jul 9, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's kind of why I've been attendance watching all year
If they were convinced they would see a lot of people coming to games the rest of the season then they could take on quite a bit. Or, if people start buying 2011 season tickets by the bushel.
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Hmm.
If that’s the case, then we may be in trouble. Unless this past weekend is some kind of indication of a trend of attendance rising.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I think its hard to assess last weekend
There was a lot of July 4 traffic going on there. I know I was sitting next to a few Zonies at the game and they were just there for the weekend. The weekday games against Colorado had a slight uptick, which is encouraging.
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I agree.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems to me
that if they aren’t willing to take on $4m or more, then they may as well not bother because there isn’t much worth having that costs less. I could be wrong because I don’t have everyone’s salaries memorized.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I do not believe salary is going to hold them back.
Wtih only two months left, they can take on a hefty salary, without feeling it that much.
Easy to say when talking about other peopel’s money.
I think Sheehan has a point
I could totally see it playing out that way. Even still, I want to kick him in the balls. And by “balls” I mean “testicles”.
by Dex on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Sometimes it seems as if writers at Sports Illustrated
Want an apology from Padres and their fans for the team’s performance so far this year. I’m sorry we are playing so well; I don’t understand it either, but geez guys, why don’t you just let us be happy about it instead of constantly trying to predict new reasons as to why it won’t stick.
It also seems as if their writers forget what division we are in. The Rockies have some talent, and one of the best pitchers in the league, but it’s not as if they are without holes either.
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Anyone else concerned about the rotation?
Garland suffers his worst game, Richard had a hard time locating on Tuesday’s outing, and in the bullpen, Gregerson has been struggling of late. Or is this just me?
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 AM PDT reply actions
I chalk it up to the heat, plus it's always tough adjusting on the east coast
If it happens 1 or 2 more time, then I’ll get all kinds of nervous
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by matthewverygood on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
this
Although I’m a little less accepting of the “its the heat excuse”. Plus Garland wasn’t sharp in his previous outing either.
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I do think the heat had something to do
with 14 home runs being hit in that series.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
plus we have the all star break
Hopefully that will give a bit of a break to our pitchers and clear their heads.
I think we're all concerned.
Hoyer included. Gregerson will be fine—relievers have such small sample sizes that bad outings get magnified.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Richard looked totally overheated in his last outing
He looked flushed and was constantly wiping his hands on his pants.
Several guys had problems controlling the ball.
I think he will be fine. Judy? Not so sure.
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Should we also add Correia to our concerned list as well?
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
He probably gets a 1 start pass
After his last outing.
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Yes you should.
Plus, when you factor in Latos’s impending “rest”, it’s pretty clear we need another above average starter.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, I doubt CY makes a return this season
Which above average lefty do we go after that likes pitching in pitcher-friendly ballparks and can get on the cheap?
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 9, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
No one.
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Then the question becomes:
Who are willing to give up? In paticular, the bullpen?
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly though...
We need a pitcher to pitch against some pretty crappy teams in August.
If we wanted, we might be able to get by with a 4.50 ERA pitcher….
Some ideas:
Dave Bush http://espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6020
Only under contract for 2010.
Or an Arizona pitcher (but I really don’t know any of them… other than Haren).
Ok, there really aren’t that many good options. But Bush might be someone worth looking at. He’s having a down year, relatively low salary, might be helped by Petco and our defense…
Bush might actually be worse than Correia.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He has a lot more QS than Correia
and his other numbers look at least as good if not better than Correia’s.
Besides, I think we can get him dirt cheap.
Bush's SIERA is 5.21
Which has a high predictive value of future ERA. Bush’s other numbers are deceiving. Chances are he’ll pitch to that SIERA value for the rest of the year. Correia has pitched poorly, but not that poorly.
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I think this team does the unthinkable
Like we’ve been doing all year, and we sweep the Rockies this series.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Jul 9, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
That'd be pretty freakin sweet.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Everybody's pants will be thoroughly ruined
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by matthewverygood on Jul 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully the Padres Store has a pants sale
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by mrbarneydangles on Jul 9, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Not me
It will excite me into constipation.
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No
Nothing like that.
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talk about ultimate release
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by icaughthundleys#4 on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Seattle-New York talks apparently breaking down
because some other team is making a big pitch to the Mariners.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions
Have you met the Astros?
Because it sounds like you haven’t.
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They said they wanted a pitcher who was a FA after this year...
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If Lee goes to the Yanks
He’ll be doing a nice job of trying to bag all the divisions. He’s AL Central, NL East and AL West bagged already.
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That would not help his bagging.
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More of that East Coast Bias
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The headline "How will Padres react when adversity strikes?"
Is kind of like the whole “Is Your Mother a Whore?” headline. Sure, they aren’t saying your mother is a whore. But, the fact that they have to ask the question implies that they think she might be.
They might as well replace “How will Padres react when adversity strikes?” with “When Adversity Strikes The Padres Will Suck Ass”
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I love the " wait til they have a long losing streak"
but they don’t seem to have any…but if they did
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Hasn't adversity already stricken this club?
- starter goes down (again), this time for the entire season (probably)
Opening day LF goes down and SS goes down twice
Stauffer’s appendix blows up after (if memory holds) 22IP of 1ER ball?
Eckstein hasn’t played in a week
Correia stinks
That’s pretty adverse, isn’t it?
Eff you, ESPN. Go back to bed with LeBastard.
Not to mention
Offensive players (Headley, Gwynn, Venable, both Hairstons, Cabrera, Blanks and to a lesser extent Stairs and Salazar) not living up to expectations.
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Are they waiting for one of our players to die?
How much adversity do they want? Sheez.
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I was going to include
can’t hit their way out of a wet paper bag … but that’d be an insult to wet paper bags
He seems pretty consistent to me.
It’s not like he’s really done anything wildly different throughout the year. At one point he was getting some extra singles here and there, but for the most part he’s been the same sort of light hitting guy in 2010.
(Sorry, pet peeve. A lot of people say inconsistent when what its not really what they mean.)
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It'd sure be nice
if some of those guys could start hitting more, to make up for the dropoff in pitching we’ll be experiencing.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
CUNNINGHAM!
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Batting average?
What are we playing cricket here?
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.248 For April
.248 for May
.245 for June
.267 for July
For all the cricket lovers.
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BUT BATTING AVERAGE EQUALS OFFENSE
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
wOBA
.320 for April
.302 for May
.295 for June
.307 for July
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I miss those big hitting April days.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are the worst cricket batting averages I've ever seen.
If you can’t hit over 20.0, you’ve got no business on a top-level team. 0.267? That’s abysmal!
Given that the Angels looks to be sellers now
do they have anything we’d want? Looking over their roster I’d say no, plus I hate trying to trade with them.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions
If they wanna sell Jered Weaver
I’d be all ears. Otherwise, no.
If Morales didn’t break his leg on home plate I’d see what we can do about him converting either to the corner outfield, preferred in LF.
The only thing they have that I would want
is Joe Peneiro, but I don’t think they’ll move him. They’re so desperate for pitching that they’d never move him.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
the Angles are still in the race
I doubt they are “sellers”
but they do like to make trades
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A lot of their players are either really expensive (compared to the value they provide) or are young players that wouldn’t be on the block. The players close to free agency are Matsui and Shields. Others who are under contract only through 2011 are: Piniero, Kazmir, Rodney, Fuentes, Rivera and Abreu. Every only one of those players has a salary > $5M.
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That's pretty much my feeling.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
If I’m Angels brass and I’m “selling”, I’m basically going to get value for players that won’t be here in 2011 or that I’ve decided won’t be that useful in 2011. I hold onto the rest because I have a good enough core to make a run next year. It’s not like the Astros where they are doomed in 2011-2013 if they don’t start getting value for the players they have.
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Too much racket in here today
So much racket it’s like that one place… can’t think of the name… what is it?
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Denorfia in center field
makes me a sad panda.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM PDT reply actions
Barely
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we have linwup
#Padres lineup 7/9: J. Hairston 4, Headley 5, Gonzalez 3, S. Hairston 7, Hundley 2, Cunningham 9, Denorfia 8, Cabrera 6, Correia 1.
"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"
Look at what he's done recently
You’d have to be insane to keep him out.
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Plus Anthony Jr. is hurt
so BudBot probably didn’t have much choice.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Durango is not on the waiver wire
He is in Portland.
No room on the 40 man for a waiver wire pickup.
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My hope
is that Scotty would be the every day CF, with the corners manned by Cunningham and Venable. Barring any sort of trade, of course.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't know when Venable is coming back, yet
Backs can be tricky. Denorfia would probably still get the starts and Durango could fill in as needed. Once Venable returning then Durango could go back down.
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Or possibly 3?
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The Padres need only go 40-37 the rest of the way
to get to 90 wins. That, to me, is the biggest reason why this team has a good shot at the playoffs. They’ve given themselves a big cushion.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:50 PM PDT reply actions
It's rare for divisions not in the AL East
to have three 90-win teams.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope the media keeps this up
We have thrived off the “underdog” thing all year. Even the players said after seeing the pre-season power rankings they got fired up.
Some guy on the radio
wants Bobby Abreu.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT reply actions
I laugh.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
cliff notes plz
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by All Things SD on Jul 9, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Some food for thought.
The Padres are #2 behind the Braves on Baseball Prospectus’s Hit List (basically objective power rankings). The Rockies, however, are a close third.
Once park-adjusted offense and defense are factored in, the Padres have the 9th best group of position players in baseball and the best in the division. Defense is important.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions
So what I'm getting from it
1. We can’t hit in our own park but can tear up somebody else’s.
2. Our defense is spectacular.
3. We should win the division.
We can't really 'tear up' anyone's park if we aren't having a good day.
We’re just less bad on the road.
Also, Colorado has the best pitching staff in baseball after park adjustments are made. They are by far the biggest threat. Nothing is “should” or “for sure”.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Clarification
Is that for the roster as it stands right now? i.e. adjustments made for Tulo being disabled
The numbers I gave
measure all the WAR accumulated so far this season. Obviously Tulowitzki hasn’t been accumulating WAR since going on the DL.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
We have very few position players
who project to be much worse than league average. Yorvit and the Hairstons each look to be at or slightly below 2 WAR. Everyone else looks to be better than average. Adrian is on pace to be a 6+ WAR player again, Chase and Anthony Jr. look to be about 4 WAR, and Eck, Venable, and Hundley look to be 2-3 WAR players.
Assuming their first half performances continue into the second half.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, wow...
I didn’t realize Giants had live births…
I always assumed they laid eggs or something.
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