Padres add Miguel Tejada in exchange for Wynn Pelzer
by Dex on Jul 29, 2010 5:05 PM PDT
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PrintThis is the move! This is the big bat! Miguel Tejada is now a Padre and we gave up Wynn Pelzer to get him.
If Tejada's a starter for us, this likely means that Chase Headley will move back into the outfield so that Tejada can take third base. I am fine with this. Tejada's a free swinger who has seen better days, but he may be just that extra upgrade that we get over Oscar Salazar or even a Hairston brother on a non-clutch day.
If I told you at the start of the season that July 29th would arrive and Adrian Gonzalez, Heath Bell and Miguel Tejada were all Padres, you would've had me committed. ADMIT IT.
GO PADRES!!!
Look at him. He looks like a proud Padre.
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Agreed
Cabrera’s headed to Portland, I’d almost guarantee it.
by PhantomPretender on Jul 29, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather keep everth on the big league club
over salazar, but this way i guess we don’t have to lose salazar if that means anything…
Everth needs more playing time
won’t get it here
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by TheAxManCometh on Jul 29, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Salad Czar just won the game for us soooo, I say Efren goes.
And Chase should never go back to the outfield EVAR!!!!
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Tejada won't be playing SS everyday
So how does that work?
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He won’t be?
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not the plan.
According to Hoyer.
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Not so sure they send down E-Cab
That would leave them with just two middle infielders in Tejada (who they aren’t sure can play SS still or 2b at all) and Jairston. I imagine they send Salazar to AAA. Then maybe when Eck returns they swap Salazar and Everth. I wish they would release Stairs, but they probably want to keep him around to have bad at bats against RHP’s off the bench.
I am assuming Salazar still has options? He’s only got just over 1 year service time and is not on the out of options list at MLBTR…
Of course they will probably end up doing something stupid like send Cunningham down. By the way, why have they stopped starting him? I like him the best out of our corner OF’s.
by Antonio Olivares on Jul 29, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
Salazar is out of options.
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Jed's on the record saying so
He’s here to spell Headley at 3B and play SS
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by matthewverygood on Jul 29, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I approve
no mentions of him playing 2B yet, but I would hope he could play there some days to give eck a rest if needed.
Solid move, doesn’t seem like it can hurt us, like his veteran presence.
Also Mark Loretta approves, so seems aiight
What is his D like... we are a pitching and D team.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Not so great D
that’s sort of why I was hoping he’d play second. But to be completely honest, Everth has incredible range but also has gobs of errors.
by PhantomPretender on Jul 29, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
His D sucks and his fielding percentage is worse than Cabreras.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
i heard
he was a pretty good guy
(mark loretta)
Headley will definitely not play LF again
We didn’t trade Kevin Kouzmanoff because we still wanted Chase to play left field.. Tejada brings a right-handed bat to the table that can spell Headley against LHP.. If you watched Headley in LF in 2nd half ’08 and the majority of ’09 you would see that he is not cut out to be an outfielder.. Not to mention that his defense at third base has been well above average once he got back into his comfort zone. My hope is that Tejada will be replacing a roster spot occupied by either Matt Stairs or Oscar Salazar.. Please let this be the case!!!
by Must Not Sleep, Must Warn Others on Jul 29, 2010 5:57 PM PDT reply actions
I think it makes more sense for him to take Cabrera’s spot since Everth could really benefit from spending some time in AAA.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Bye Bye Chase Headley!!!!.....
…this move IN NO WAY , means that Headley is playing the OF. If anything, it means that he’ll be benched more for the stretch run. Miggie may not have quite the range that Chase has but his glove is comparable…and of course, he has a track record of HITTING!!…something that Headley knows very little about, apparently. I see Miggie getting more time than Chase @ 3rd…I see him playing some SS. Im not so sure that Cabrera is going to Portland, tho. They may need him to pinch run. The more speed we have, the better.
I totally agree
Let’s bench the second most valuable player on the team.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 7:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What?
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 29, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You do realize that Headley is having a better season offensively than Tejada, right?
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you realize that
this is the worst year Tejada has ever had and the best Headley has ever had? Chase is hitting under the mendoza line .195 vs. left handed pitching.
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Jul 29, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you realize
that batting average is a poor measure of hitting ability?
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but .195 is a whole lot of suck from that side of the plate.
I know that there is a fuzzy middle ground to statistical interpretation. But the extremes do say something.
Either way, the biggest offensive hole would have to be cabrera (as much as it pains me and my ecab t-shirt), but does anybody really believe that Tejada can play SS on a defense-first team. My prediction if he does the astronomical LOB% of some of our pitchers is going to come down to earth really fast.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 29, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
do you mean that metaphorically? Or literally?
just trying to figure out which picture I should have in my mind.
methaphorically
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 29, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
So… um… what?
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
Pretty much what Jed said.
Spell Chase at third and play a bit at SS. And we didn’t give up much for him. I am fine with this.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 7:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess that’s okay.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Offensively he’s a pretty decent upgrade at shortstop, but I was under the impression he can’t really play the position that well any more.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Buddy on the radio
Just said the Padres scouts think he can still play SS. So we’ll see. My guess is when Eck comes back the three middle infielders will be Tejada, Eck, and Jerry.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 7:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow
We need new scouts.
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Did we ever find out his real age?
First thing I thought of when I heard this today was that video of him trying to rip that microphone off when ESPN called him out on his age.
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 29, 2010 7:24 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, it was "adjusted" by two years after that interview.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 29, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish someone would adjust my age
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 29, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Really, WG.
Drama had to tell the police officer she adjusted her age.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 29, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So true...
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 29, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I can hear Drama's new defense already...
“But she said she was Dominican!”
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Hey
If Mark Reynolds is English….and Efren is Spanish…that girl was Dominican, dammit.
P.S. – I have an EXCELLENT team of attorneys.
I guess so, right?
Hey – I have the firefly vodka sweet tea tonight – OUTSTANDING.
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 29, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I've heard a lot about that lately.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 29, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Really good
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 29, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's how I make mine...
Pint glass. Crushed ice. Two shots of Firelfy. Wedge of lemon. Couple squirts of that bottled lemon juice. Fill the rest of the glass with Santa Cruz Organic Lemonade.
You can buy that lemonade at Whole Foods and most good grocery stores and it’s actually pretty cheap.
They are so f*cking good.
That's a John Daly, right?
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by matthewverygood on Jul 30, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to BevMo this weekend to score some Firefly
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by matthewverygood on Jul 30, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Mitch Williams
You wonder.. you don’t have to have a lot of range to play 2B… Eckstein getting hurt… You wonder if Tejada has ever played second? Could Headley play second? They didn’t just make this deal to make the deal. They made it to fill a void. You’re not going to bring a guy that’s gonna mess with the chemistry of the team. Not at this point. Not after what they’ve gotten accomplished so far this year. They’re not going to mess with that chemistry. He was brought in to fill a void.
Riveting Mitch. Nice research. Nice finish.
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Must be refreshing for them
Sports writers get to be chemists again, only not about PEDs.
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Going to comment on the game (and Tejada) since I'm just getting the chance
Got home just from work in time to see the bottom of the 9th. The one thing I love about this team is it seems like it’s always a different guy to step up. I swear, everyone on this team has had at least one clutch hit, everyone from Adrian to Chase to Deno and Salad.
As for Mat, he looked absolutely dominant through four, Dodgers didn’t have an answer except for the one mistake to Loney. Mat’s stuff was good and sharp, he hit 98 more than a few times on the gun too. Looks like he just lost a little focus in the 5th, started picking at the corners and missed. I’m interested to see how he does against the Dodgers in LA next week, if he’s the one to make the adjustments or the Dodger hitters.
I really don’t understand the Tejada deal. We don’t even have a place for him. Sure he can play SS but I would rather have Everth’s speed and defense, that is what this teams built on. He’s not even a “big” bat, just a mediocre one that’s an upgrade over are inconstant hitters. I wouldn’t mind seeing Tejada as our first guy off the bench but I’m not really down for him to start. I guess the price wasn’t too high to pay.
Think this is the only deal we are making or possibly another bat or even a pitcher?
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by mrbarneydangles on Jul 29, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions
I think we'll get another pitcher
by deadline or through waivers.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 29, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
We have the 3rd or 4th best record in baseball
Waivers will be increasingly difficult. Other clubs may claim guys just to block us.
Teams seem to be reluctant to do this
For fear that someone might do it to them. Plus guys that they try to make it through waivers typically have high salaries that you don’t want to risk taking on.
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Didn't we do that to the Braves in 98?
Still, a halfway competitive team (Florida, for example … or Los Angeles if they wanted to be bitches about it) could put a claim on a pitcher we had an eye on, to a) block us and b) make themselves better.
Colorado is still pissed about Everth, they’d get us in a heartbeat.
/paranoia
So long ago
Teams operate differently now.
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Rumor has it
that we’re vying with the Dodgers for Pittsburgh’s Paul Maholm. Innings-eater with decent stuff… methinks LA is just trying to obstruct us.
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 30, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Its going to be Westbrook
I’m convinced.
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I think I agree with you.
Still disappointed we aren’t trying harder for Lilly.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Won't Lilly cost too much money?
I’d like to have Ted Lilly on the team, but it would probably cost either Castro or Lubke.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 30, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
He shouldn't cost anywhere near that.
The Cubs are desperate for salary relief. Middling prospect + cash should get the job done.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
So would the Cubs agree to eat a good portion of Lilly's salary?
That’s one way I could see him coming here.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 30, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
No, the point for them is to shed salary.
Lilly isn’t due THAT much for the rest of the year, and we should be able to handle the hit, even counting Tejada.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Fun game!
Just got back from Gaslamp – congrats to the Pads for the clutch win. It was fun to see the entire team celebrate after Oscar’s pinch hit. They’re not my favorite team, but you can’t help but admire how the scrappy Pads get it done game after game.
My Dodgers may have lost the game, but that usher handed me a coupon for 2 free tacos on my way out of The Litter Box today so, dammit, I’m a winner too today!
Enjoy the rest of the season GLB’ers – I wish you all the best of luck for the rest of 2010.
The Spirit of MeatTrain'10!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 29, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
We'll see you for a long set in the Latrine soon.
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a polite dodgers fan?
wtf just happened?
Did we just become the bad guys?
Or, is this reverse psychology?
because no matter how nice he is
he’s still a filthy Dodger fan
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TEJADA IS NOT REPLACING CHASE.
He will be playing most of his games at SS. When Chase needs a day, Jerry to SS. If Tejada needs a day Jerry to SS. If Chase and Eck need a day. Tejada to 3B, Jerry at SS, Salad Bar at 2B
Tejada is replacing Eevee, not Savior.
I still feel more confident in Burroughs pitching than Mujica
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 9:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Migada hits a homer in his first at bat
I’m calling it
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Are you against this, Cha Cha?
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My Friend the internets
Has this site called baseball reference.
In that site is the Padres franchise encyclopedia
If you know what hear Piazza was here (2006) you can go to the listing for that year.
Then you go to schedule and results
Its safe to assume that he played on opening day, so you click on that box score
You scroll down to the 2nd inning and you see Piazza’s at bat Play Description: “Home Run (Fly Ball)”
Alternatively, you could search on the site for Piazza and get his stat page.
You can see that he played for San Diego in 2006 and you could click on the SDG link and go see that year and follow some of the steps from above or you could hover over the part that says “Game Logs” click the link for 2006 to see his game by game results for 2006.
Here you can see that he did hit a HR in his first game, but you can’t tell that its his first at bat. So, you click where it say “Apr 3” and you get to that box score again with the play description in the second inning.
This is what I do anytime I want to see basic stats for a player or team. They also have stats for minor leaguers. The keep track of records for different stats. They have the franchise records for stats, which is something I love to peak at for the Padres (hitters and pitchers). They also track all the draft picks made by teams. Want to look up all the first round picks by the Padres? No problem (Careful there’s a Matt F_____g Bush in there). Plus tons of other stuff.
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by Wonko on Jul 30, 2010 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Head exploded
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
MLB Network: "Keep believing!"
Heat: "Uhh, no. We know."
I didn't even mention FanGraphs
Baseball-reference is like when a young boy gets to see a girl naked. FanGraphs is when he finds out there are lesbians.
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by Wonko on Jul 30, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
Done.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You should have just said
“I believe lipstick could fit in here somewhere.”
TWSS.
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Amazing, huh?
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Oooh. Aaah
I still feel more confident in Burroughs pitching than Mujica
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 9:32 PM PDT reply actions
That's a winner
"Get your hopes up. That's what hopes are for by the way, to get up. You don't get your hopes down, you get your hopes up." -Jeffrey Tambor
We've lost Sean Gallagher, Mark Worrell and Wynn Pelzer this season.
And gained Miguel Tejada. I just don’t see how were managing our resources effectively. For a team with a miniscule payroll, taking chances with cheap controllable talent seems like a good idea. Hoyers got to do a better job at managing our prospects and reserves. We can’t afford to lose potentially good talent and get nothing in return.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
We got all what Gallagher was good for
a few bucks. Look how he pitched here and in Pittsburgh. He’s terrible. I’m not chalking that up in the loss column.
Um we didn't "lose" Gallagher or Worrell
We dumped both of them. Because they sucked. Worrell was picked up by the Mariners and then summarily dumped a couple weeks later.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 29, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Gallagher was terrible.
Mark Worrell wasn’t anything special, specially with his surgery.
Wynn Pelzer wasn’t a top tier prospect, and I am happy with Tejada.
We aren’t done yet either.
By the way, Gallagher is terrible.
I still feel more confident in Burroughs pitching than Mujica
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Gallagher is awful and with the 7 or so guys between Pelzer and cracking the major league roster here, we could afford to lose him.
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Hoyers got to do a better job at managing our prospects and reserves. We can’t afford to lose potentially good talent and get nothing in return.
You’re right; they should hire some guys to watch players and write reports to determine the skills and value of those players. Then we’d have some sort of system of knowing who’s going to be good or not. Brilliant!
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 29, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You forgot we also "lost" Prior
oh wait, he just proved he was crap too.
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Jul 29, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Jed is a smart man.
Jerry Hairston (I feel is the unsung hero for the Padres)
Jon Garland
Yorvit Torrealba
Miguel Tejada.
Not to mention losing Chris Young, Kyle Blanks, and having Venable and Cabrera performing less than expected.
Yet we are still 60-40 and the top team in our division. Jed knows what he is doing. Even Matt Stairs had good intentions and I was excited when I heard about the deal (even though I want him to GTFO)
I still feel more confident in Burroughs pitching than Mujica
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying they performed up to their talent level.
But he was a submariner (no pun intended) who was capable of hitting 88. Let him suck in the minors, work with him, see if something develops. What does it cost you?
Sean Gallagher is a starter. He needs to be someplace he can have consistent appearances to work out his mechanical problems before you write him off as a sucky pitcher. He’s got good stuff, he just needs to work on some things. Fine, he can’t do it here. But he could’ve been a thow-in on a bigger deal, like for Peralta or Wigginton. To get nothing for him is a waste.
Wynn Pelzer was one of our top pitching prospects who we burned for an over the hill player having the worst offensive production of his career. I just don’t see it.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
Pelzer was not one of the Padres top pitching prospects
Lubeke, Castro, Sampson, Kluber, Italiano…. are all better prospects.
Pelzer would not figure into the Padres pitching plans for a long time.
He was the Padres #5 overall prospect according to BPro's Kevin Goldstein going into the year.
He was also #5 for John Sickels at minorleagueball.com
He was also #5 for FanGraphs
He was #7 for Baseball America
He did struggle this year (although some of it was BABIP related) and that had his stock down for sure. But, he has the talent and, until recently, the production of one of our top pitching prospects. We did not give up chump change, but we didn’t exactly give up something we would miss either.
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they had give up someone halfway decent
Padres got the SS and 3B help they needed – for a guy they won’t miss and a mil cash. Sounds like a heck of a deal to me.
Also, Tejada reported has good clubhouse energy that the Padres have been thriving on all year.
"I post like canned meat."
Another take on Pelzer
This one from FanGraphs’ Bryan Smith
There is no downside to this move by the Orioles, who open up a spot for a red-hot Josh Bell by trading Miguel Tejada. The pickings were going to be slim, but Pelzer at least offers a live arm with a lot of potential. Pelzer was a ninth-round pick in 2007, but got above-slot money despite an enigmatic career at South Carolina. The Padres returned Pelzer to the rotation, a role he could never hold onto with the Gamecocks.
Entering the 2010 season, the decision couldn’t have appeared better. Pelzer was commanding the zone better than he’d ever before, and in 2009, even the Cal League’s tough environment couldn’t hold him back. Pelzer allowed just six home runs in 150 innings, posting a groundout-to-flyout ratio of 2.00. While he was pretty limited to two pitches, the movement on his 94 mph fastball was enough to handle A-ball hitters. The belief is usually that we don’t know a prospect’s true colors until he reaches Double-A, however, and it’s been a rocky season for Pelzer.
Through 18 starts, Pelzer had a 4.52 ERA, 1.13 GO/AO, was getting crushed by left-handed hitters (.846 OPS allowed), and a 4.72 BB/9. After July 13, the Padres moved Pelzer to the bullpen, whether because of his lack of success, a chance to limit his innings, or a chance to showcase his raw stuff for the trade deadline. In four relief outings since, Pelzer hasn’t allowed a run in 6.2 innings, and has been a groundball machine. Still, with 10 walks allowed, control is a problem like it hasn’t been since college.
With such a drastic platoon split that’s been apparent since his professional career began, it’s hard to imagine Pelzer having a ton of success as a starting pitcher. But in the bullpen, where his fastball can go above 95 mph with movement, and where his slider is death on right-handed hitters, Pelzer could be very good. If the Orioles end up with an elite reliever for a half-season of Miguel Tejada that they really didn’t need, it will certainly be a victory for them.
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by matthewverygood on Jul 30, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, neat.
Tejada and I share the same birthday. Except he’s 8 years older.
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Are you sure about that?
Does anybody know when Tejada’s real birthday is?
He’s probably like 45.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the move!
I am behind it, it hardly cost us anything and I think that it makes our Padres a better club!
by San Diego Real Estate on Jul 29, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions
Since when did .275 with below average power and average defense
grade out as can’t possiIbly be replaced at 3rd base? Why didn’t we make a play for Cantu? Where would we be without Jerry Hairston?
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Jul 29, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions
Don't bust a guys confidence.
And not with a guy with the same numbers almost. It would leave a bad taste in Chase’s mouth.
It’s different if we got a proven 3B bat. But Tejada isn’t a third baseman, and with Cabrera’s bat being left behind in 2009, Tejada can help us out.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Try 2.5 WAR
second best on the team behind Adrian (4.0) with above average defense, plus young, cheap, and controllable for years.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Meant to be reply to bringbackbuddytrees
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
We can just pretend we are ganging up on him. You bring the stats, I bring the rambling, not so backed up stuff.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Tejada's got nada
I was at the game and when I was grabbing some food in the 2nd inning they brought in Jed Hoyer on the Padres TV Network (or whatever it is that they play inside the stadium). He said they’re still trying to make moves and have been on ttalking to teams constantly. Sounded like to me that this was definitely not the big bat they think is gonna put them over the hump. At least they didnt move any big pieces for Tejada. Down for him to spell Headley and play SS occasionally though.
by Stay Classy San Diego on Jul 29, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions
We aren't getting a big bat.
If anything, I expect another bench player, maybe a 4th outfielder that has a little pop in his bat, or what will more than likely happen, us making a move for a pitcher.
I wanted Brett Myers, but on MLBN, I believe it was the Astros beat writer, who said he wasn’t going to be traded and was to be an Astro next year. And I see Lily going to the Twins.
I say we push hard for Westbrook before other teams get into that chase.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, there's some good news
ESPN is calling the trade “Weak Sauce” and swear Tejada won’t be an upgrade.
Given their track record on predicting the Padres, prepare for Tejada to hit .375.
.425
With 15 HRs including 3 walk off hits.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN is leading the league is douche.
Did they really say the trade was “Weak Sauce”? Did they think it was hella lame, too? Or did they think the trade was totally rad……. PSYCH!
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 29, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah brah.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
Then scroll down to the Eric Karabell sidebar on the right.
by I8EtoDunbar on Jul 29, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool beans.
ESPN is so hip. I totally feel like they know how me and my frat bros want our sports.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 29, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and the Rangers asked about Josh Johnson?
Lol.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions
They're really going all in this year.
Their farm is effed in the future.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 29, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not?
This is probably it for them. Who knows what the new ownership group has in store in terms of budget? They’re playing with MLB’s money, so why not make a run this year?
And I know I'm posting 5543636 comments.
But is anyone else ROOTING for the Giants to get Jose Bautista?
They’d have to give away a lot to get him, and I don’t think he would fair too well in the NL West. I think that trade would be a bust for anyone who gets him.
And also, he is a player that I Do.Not.Want.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 10:37 PM PDT reply actions
Deffo agree
Of all the overvalued people in the trade market, he is numero uno.
Any outfielders we could still get?
Here are some names that were available.
Jose Guillen
Coco Crisp
Rajai Davis
Austin Kearns
Brad Hawpe
Koske Fukudome
Xavier Nady
The Padres have been linked to Hawpe and Guillen, but I don’t want either.
I’d like Coco most out of everyone on that list.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Coco Crisp And Marlon Byrd would be tops on my list for position players.
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How many people fawned over Fukudome when he came over from Japan?
Didn’t the Padres have a bid on him?
Now that he sucks, does anybody care? lol.
I think he didn't come because he didn't want to play CF, which he still ended up doing last year.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 30, 2010 12:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
CF in Wrigley is a lot easier
than CF in Petco. Too bad he can’t hit … he’d fit right in with the Venables of the team.
Seeing pissed off Dodger fans is awesome
Got these quotes from True Blue LA:
I know we are only a few games back of the wild card
but when I see the lineup I don’t see a competitive playoff team. Even the Giants these days are putting eight better players then us out on the diamond. We’ll know for sure by Sunday but I think we are close to calling it, to bad Ned can’t wait until Sunday Night to decide to be a buyer or seller.
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 29, 2010 7:19 PM PDT
The Dodgers just lost two games to the Padres
Where the biggest contribution that Adrian Gonzalez made was bloop single that could have been an inning ending double play.
The Hairstons were more of a pain to the Dodgers in this series.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 29, 2010 7:30 PM PDT
Maybe the point is to try to gather a list of flame throwing relief pitchers that all have career years in the same year…like the Padres.
Somehow I dont think thats a strategy….more dumb luck.
by Joey Joe on Jul 29, 2010 7:34 PM PDT
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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 PM PDT reply actions
Awesome
Dodger fans complaining and thinking their entitled to something…typical.
How about…“The Padres beat us because they are a better TEAM.”
I’m going to one of the games in LA next week and I can’t wait to see the faces of all the Dodger fans when they are 10+ games back.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Jul 29, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Props to the second guy
Who can’t fathom the concept that Adrian Gonzalez is but one man in a sport where nine play at a time.
by I8EtoDunbar on Jul 29, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Flamethorwers?
Gregerson, Adams, Thatcher, Stauffer.
Do any of them top 95?
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Adams hits 95.
The others don’t.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...
I mean gregerson did have that flamethrower that one time… it was pretty awesome. Hundley got a bit singed, but the batter was on the DL for a couple weeks.
Ok, I would pay good money to see a baseball game where players were allowed to have flamethrowers… we can call it “weapon ball”.
The networks wouldn't go for it
and it would be condemned to the sports TV ghetto that is Vs. Network.
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 30, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
My problem with the last quote (which I saw earlier)
is that it’s not true. These are mostly young, talented arms that know what they’re doing and have a history of success.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Unlike McDonald for the Dodgers
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Jul 29, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Unlike McDonald anyone for the Dodgers
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think "pissed" is the best word
They just seem casually upset
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NO. I like Thatcher.
Theo Epstein has discussed multiple possible trades with former Red Sox assistant GM and current Padres GM Jed Hoyer, according to Peter Abraham and Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. The Globe duo believes Boston could have interest in a reliever like Joe Thatcher, and, given the team’s excess of outfielders when Jacoby Ellsbury returns, they may match up with San Diego.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 29, 2010 11:12 PM PDT reply actions
Thatcher going no where
Better not
"Get your hopes up. That's what hopes are for by the way, to get up. You don't get your hopes down, you get your hopes up." -Jeffrey Tambor
I love thatch and do not want to see him go anytime soon
But I love Jacoby just as much and want nothing more than to see him in a Padres uni . Let’s give them a bunch of sucky players and hope they don’t notice. Like Mujica, Dusty Ryan, salad bar and stairs or something crazy like that. Yeah, they’d never notice.
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Thatcher is our only lefty. He's going nowhere.
Ramos cant handle the role and Thatcher just punched out the Dodgers 1-2-3 when we needed him. He’s lights out
If I pick it, I flick it
by Duke Street Kings on Jul 30, 2010 5:49 AM PDT up reply actions
But, but Sally just won us a game! What more do you want?!
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
MLB Network: "Keep believing!"
Heat: "Uhh, no. We know."
Well, Joe Mauer would look reaaaally good in Padres uniform too.
But yes, there a lot of things I would like more than to have Jacoby Ellsbury play for the Pads. I just think he could be really good for the team, but I wouldn’t be willing to give up someone good like Thatcher, that’s all I’m saying.
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by Jordan_Ming on Jul 30, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait...
You wouldn’t trade Joe Thatcher for Jacoby Ellsbury?
I mean, I know no one likes the Red Sox… but…
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 30, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wouldn't really want to give up Thatcher period.
But I guess if it was for someone like Ellsbury then I guess I’d be fine with it
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They're saying that the guys who are CURRENTLY there
become expendable when Ellsbury is back, not that Ellsbury is on the market.
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 30, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You know that the rumor is not saying that the Padres would get Ellsbury, right?
Its that they’d get somebody once Ellsbury returns.
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Yeah, I know, re-read and saw that hours ago. Thanks.
But anyway that doesn’t chance the fact that I would like Ellsbury to play for the Padres. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
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Wow, that sounds really mean.
I didn’t mean it in such a mean way.
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Signature...
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More delusion from TBLA:
Maybe the best three at the back end of any bullpen in Jansen, Kuo, and Broxton
Gregerson, Adams, Bell?
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 29, 2010 11:55 PM PDT reply actions
Lol.
We have Thatcher, Ferrari, Gregerson, Adams, Bell.
Shoot, put Stauffer in and we can make ball games 4 innings.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 30, 2010 12:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And choking.
I still feel more confident in Burroughs pitching than Mujica
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 30, 2010 9:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Reminds me
I want a “Pen-Itentiary” shirt. Anybody know who does Adams’ ink? We should get him to start producing them.
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 30, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
This week "Fun with small sample sizes"
Ernesto Frieri: In 4.2 IP, he has 1 BB and 9 K. Good for a FIP of -0.10.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 12:20 AM PDT reply actions
Future HOFer right there
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
MLB Network: "Keep believing!"
Heat: "Uhh, no. We know."
this is what makes the LA fans fawning over Jansen funny
they bring up a guy who strikes out a bunch of hitters in his first 4-5 innings, they’re going all Joba for the kid.
we bring up a guy who strikes out a bunch of hitters in his first 4-5 innings, we’re like, “Okay…welcome to the pen. Get in line, rookie.”
Let's be real.
Frieri’s stuff is NASTY.
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by LetBurroughsPitch on Jul 30, 2010 3:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I found all the Jansen love from LA fans a bit amusing.
Ok, he throws hard and has good stuff. But he’s not going to single-handedly save your season, or you bullpen for that matter. And definitely not until he learns never to throw Will Venable a fastball in a hitter’s count.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is a guy who was a catcher this time last year
Long way to go
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by matthewverygood on Jul 30, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
A negative FIP?
Head essplode.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 30, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The best part of this?
That San Diego is closer to completing it’s All Time Steroid infield.
Caminetti approves
Don't hate the game, hate the nerds!
So part of the idea is to give Headley a day off against tough lefties?
Forgotten in this is that Tejada doesn’t hit lefties particularly well either. Better than Chase I suppose, but it is really worth it to lose Headley’s defense? By all accounts Tejada kind of sucks in the field now.
And Buddy’s talking about playing him a bunch at SS? Ruh roh.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 8:43 AM PDT reply actions
As you definitely saw...
Tejada hit .340ish in interleague. Do we know how many of those ABs were against lefties and what his average was? Or is that the dreaded small sample size?
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by matthewverygood on Jul 30, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I would say small sample size.
The best we can possibly hope for, in my opinion, is that he hits like he did for Houston last year.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 30, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw Dan Hayes post that
And I really wanted to respond with “LOL”. Silly stats are silly.
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Hopefully just an abberation
Historically he’s hit both LHP/RHP about the same, lefties slightly better. His defense does scare me though. Hopefully he hits more like the Tejada of last year to make up for it. I just hope that if he struggles Buddy doesn’t hesitate to bench him. I can take struggling E-Cab because of his range and arm, but struggling Tejada would be awful.
by Antonio Olivares on Jul 30, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I would bet that Tejada makes better contact against lefties
At least that gives him a chance to get lucky and provide us with some offense that way. Chase doesn’t even get that chance when he whiffs against them.
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