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7-22-10 NL West Watch


Evening folks. After watching our poor Padres get picked on by the Atlanta Morosis, we can revel in the struggles of our NL West rivals. Colorado has already lost in gut-wrenching fashion to Florida, continuing what has been an ugly 2-5 road trip for them that doesn't look to get much better.

 

Star-divide

Currently the Giants are in the desert, facing off against a Diamondback team fresh off a home sweep of the New York Mets. As we speak, Rodrigo Lopez has 2 outs in the top of the first. Opposing him is everyone's favorite Matt Cain.

At 7:10 pm, the hated LA Dodgers face the Mets, with Hiroki Kuroda going against Hisanori Takahashi.

Go DBacks! Go Mets!

This FanPost was written by a member of the Gaslamp Ball community and does not necessarily reflect the views of the Gaslamp Ball managers or SB Nation.

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Aubrey Huff works a 2-out walk against Lopez.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

and steals second

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Aubrey Huff and stolen base in the same sentence makes me laugh.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still in disbelief that I was able to pick up Huff on waivers in my main fantasy league,

and slot him in as a starting OF (my outfield also has Hamilton, Quentin, Pence, Dunn, LaPorta, and Cuddyer (soon enough).

He could have been useful for us, eh?

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff was one of those high risk/reward acquisitions.

You look at his history, and he’ll either give you 4+ wins or below replacement level production. Sabean just got lucky with that signing. It’s not like he was doing anything differently than he always does, he was just fortunate it didn’t turn out like Aaron Roward/Mark DeRosa.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

*Aaron Rowand

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

For $3M, I'd take him no matter what though.

And I think Huff is on a short-term deal with the Giants? I don’t see that much risk if that is indeed the case?

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, one year deal.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The risk is that even if he turned out to be a replacement level or worse player

Bochy and Sabean would stubbornly send him out there.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah okay I understand.

But we’re not the Giants, so yeah… haha

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and the Giants can afford a $3m mistake way more than we can.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Padres couldn't afford to spend $3 million on a corner OF that didn't produce

That basically would have cost us signing Torrealba and Jerry Hairston.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although

I guess we did do that on Scott Hairston

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't really see Scotty as that much of a risk though.

I think they knew what they were paying for there, and has pretty much produced as expected.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he could play CF (if #BudBot let him)

Which Huff can’t do.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Huff can play 1B! (haha)

Seriously speaking though, I’ve always had a good impression of Huff b/c of his service to the Devil Rays, and he’s only had one truly bad season (albeit it was last season, and his rookie and soph years don’t count for me here).

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was pretty underwhelming from 2005-07.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but that was the Orioles.

And I don’t know if that counts, haha. But he did rebound in 2008 though, so he deserves some credit there.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

You don’t give guys in their declines bonus points for 1 stand out year and you certainly don’t hold emotional attachment for what they did for some fledgling also ran florida team.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough, understood

Although considering the fact that he’s impressed this year, maybe that changes. But this is all hindsight of course.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

Doesn’t change a thing. I still wouldn’t want him next year. Too risky.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff is a BABIP superstar.

He’s got a respectable walk rate, but in all the years he was good, his BABIP is always crazy high.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The probably isn't specifically relate to Huff even

The Padres have options at the corners, so why gamble in the millions on guys when you can gamble in the 400,000s?

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd never advocate signing Huff.

Just observing his qualities.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm also watching the Weaver-Lee matchup in Texas.

Pitching duel so far—1-1 in the top of the 6th.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Angels really need a sweep to get back in the race.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know this is two or three years down the line

but the Padres should consider making a play for Jared Weaver when he becomes a free agent. His flyball tendencies would fit Petco Park perfectly.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jered is a Boras client though, I think. And he's command a boatload?

Although I wouldn’t mind seeing a bazillion strikeouts a game as well.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The new ownership doesn't seem to shy away from Boras nearly as much.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

If our payroll eventually rises, I guess it could happen

I just see Jered as a pitcher who could command teen figures per annum in any contract.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I mean, it depends on what happens in the next couple years.

Weaver isn’t a free agent until 2013, so the price could go up or down. If we’re lucky and the payroll does increase to the $70m range, we may be able to afford it. I get all happy thinking about how he’d do in the NL and in Petco Park.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think

The Padres will ever be to a point where they can sign a free agent pitcher to a multiyear deal while he is in his prime.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really

They never should sign any free agent in or near his prime to a multiyear deal ever.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess the risk is too high?

That if they got hurt or played poorly we couldn’t afford it?

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something like that

Just off the top of my head no free agent deal like that I can think of ever worked out for a team that didn’t have a top 10 payroll.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey singles home Huff.

1-0 Giants, top of the first.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

And after an 11 pitch at bat

Lopez finally strikes out Sandoval to end the inning. Lopez threw 32 pitches in the inning, despite only facing 5 batters.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Wonko we were talking about DeJesus on twitter

Looks like he sprained his thumb. It’s hard for me to see him getting traded in that condition now. I wonder if him being off the market will cause the price for other outfielders to rise.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The price is pretty much dependent on desperation

As the deadline gets closer, the price goes down for guys teams can’t afford to hold on to. The rest will sit back and wait for a deal they like. We are not in a position to offer a deal that the other team likes (i.e. like the Cliff Lee deal).

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Further increasing my skepticism

that they’ll actually make a significant move for anyone more than a complimentary piece or role-player.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose Lilly would qualify

as a guy the Cubs can’t, or at least shouldn’t, hold onto. So we could still get him.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Dierkes was on with Hacksaw

He seemed to lean towards Lilly being our guy.

He was high on Sheets, but didn’t connect him to us specifically.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with Lilly, though I still pine for Nolasco.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolasco owns the Rockies.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 39.2 IP against Colorado

Nolasco has 43 strikeouts, 4 walks, and a 2.27 ERA.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not on the block

The Marlins aren’t the firesale team they once were I guess.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only because the MLB is making them not be one.

Perhaps their philosophy will change when they move to their new stadium, but I really doubt it.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think their philosphy is changing because they are moving to a new stadium.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

But will Miami ever be a baseball town?

Will they actually draw crowds?

One thing I’m curious about is the Marlins TV ratings in Miami. I know that the Rays have really high TV ratings even though they don’t fill out the Trop (understandably), and I’m wondering if the Marlins are experiencing a similar phenomenon. If so, then I could see the new Marlins park filling up and the team responding with higher payrolls. If not, then we could expect more of the same (minus a blip or two in payroll in the first few seasons after the ballpark opening).

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don't need a much higher payroll

I think they are doing fine as is (from a business side) and new stadium will only improve that.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet if we made the right offer he'd be on the block.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don't have the right offer

Especially without Cumberland.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it Drew.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another problem

Is that 3 of our fastest risers from last year (Darnell, Carroll and Forsythe) all lost a lot of their value. And its too bad because I don’t really see a clear path for any of them to the majors. On top of that, one of our better prospects is Jaff Decker and he’s a “show me” guy because most scouts won’t like him.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they'll rebound next year

so if we’re good again, we’ll be able to move them for a good piece.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they all play AAA

Then a really good piece indeed.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still not convinced this is a lost season for Forsythe.

He’s an on-base machine, and he’s been hitting a bit more lately.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't know if he's going to be a major leaguer

Its not a lost season, but there’s something missing from his game to really make him a worthwhile piece (for us or someone else). Being at 2B helps a little.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that he has limitations.

But a guy who can get on base like crazy and play multiple positions has to have a place on a major league roster, doesn’t he?

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

But does his OBP translate to the majors without other skills to back it up

Usually, the answer is no.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn't he be Mark Loretta?

Mark never showed much more than an ability to get on base and play decent defense.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loretta was pretty good at hitting for average though

And he had some pop in his bat, especially in his San Diego days.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true.

Though his two years with us seems a lot like an anomaly, given the rest of his career.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was healthier with us.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hurt, I think.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully so.

The guy’s been in a funk, but hopefully he’ll pull out of it. I see some similarities to his short career at Arkansas (his sophomore season was spectacular), and coach Van Horn has praised his character numerous times. Hopefully he can pull through like he did in college.

  • You obviously develop in college from one season to the next, but I’m pulling the example from a purely mental standpoint.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right now

That AA line looks like it would translate to .220/.320/.280 in the majors. Which isn’t abysmal for a 2B, but its not good either. And I’m being generous. Using MLE (major league equivalencies) from minorleaguesplits.com it translate to .204/.309/.260.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's he lacking then?

An ability to make contact consistently? To hit for power?

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Power

He needs more singles and doubles, less strikeouts.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I guess there's nothing to do then

but hope he learns.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's certainly nothing wrong with his plate discipline.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He walks like a bazillion katrillion times.

I’m pretty sure he had one season in the minor where he had both 100+ BBs and Ks (and the numbers were really close).

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean last season?

His only full season in the minors.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read an article on Darnell

that he’s basically still hurt and not fully back from the hand injury, which is what’s limiting him. Scouts seem to still like him a lot, though.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I know

But he still needs a position.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, given that we could lose as many as two starter from our rotation this year

think Luebke has a good chance to win a spot out of spring training? Assuming he’s not traded, of course.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Portland doesn't seem like a problem for him.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know he's not on the 40-man

but I still wonder if he wouldn’t be a September call-up, especially if we need pitching. It wouldn’t be that hard to get him on, as I doubt they’re desperate to protect Cesar Ramos.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

Jed will bring in vets to compete. Obviously, you’ll need to limit innings and keep him from super two status, so its not in the best interest of the club to have him start the year in the rotation.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand it

but I think it kinda sucks. There’s something about having rookies start out the year with the big club. You get moments like Jason Heyward had on opening day. It just seems kind of sad to see MLB ready prospects held back for financial reasons.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many days of service does he need to accumulate to get Super Two status?

That means he would qualify for arbitration after two and a half seasons or service, as long as he ranks in like the top 20% of the year’s crop? I never quite understood that— I’d love to read literature on that if you know a reference.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Players who have at least three years, but fewer than six, of Major League service time, are eligible to file for arbitration. In addition, there there are the so-called “Super Two” players. These are the top 17 percent of players, based on service time, with at least two but fewer than three years of service. The rule states that a player must have at least 86 days of service in the immediately preceding season to qualify for this status. Typically, the cut-off for the top 17 percent has been around two years, 130 days of total service, though the days fluctuate from year to year.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bedankt! Where is that from?

Also, just out of curiosity, would that top 17% be provided by Elias?

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Service time can be calculated without Elias, but I suppose its as good of place as any.

I got this from an article on mlb.com I found when search for “super two status” on google. It’s like the second thing that comes up.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Found it

Players union site. Thanks a bunch!

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of the trade would involve Simmons

So we could get him for cheap! (not really) Woo!!

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's that tangent

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But they need a coach!

And they want our coach… (I was just kidding though, so does that count as a tangent?)

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give it up.

You are and always shall be TangentGuy to Wonko.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smile

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Feel free to edit as you see fit.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha you pretty much hit it on the head already.

I appreciate the add, I might just link that on my web portfolio haha!

jtb yl1

by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're kidding isn't funny

Then yes, its a tangent.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

*your

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going to the bottom of the first in LA.

Mets had a guy get CS for the final out.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Andrew Torres homers. 2-0 SF.

I think we can probably forget about help from the DBacks.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

1-0 Dodgers.

After a walk, Takahashi gave up a long fly ball to right field that Francouer misplayed into a double.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

At least the Cockys lost

but I feel like we are going to lose a game to LA and SF tonight.

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by All Things SD on Jul 22, 2010 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Good chance of it.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else worried

about the Kevin Correia-Vincente Padilla matchup? I am.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't like to spend a lot of time worrying

Unless we are actually playing a game where first place will be on the line.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always worry.

Over everything.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember

Back in 2004 worrying constantly over everything and we didn’t make the playoff. Then in 2005 I worried less, the team was worse and got in the postseason. I try not to worry as much now. I worry more when we suck. I also worry more when our farm system sucks. Having people who can care and build a farm system makes me worry less about the baseball team.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll worry a ton

if Jed trades someone good for Miguel Tejada.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really don't think its going to happen

The rumor mill basically said that Jed inquired and the price was too high. Then the San Diego media got a whiff of that, ignored the details and just ran with it. I understand the need to fill time in talk radio, but at least just keep the debate around, “Do we want Tejada? What would we give up for Tejeda?” and less “We are going after Tejada hard. Losing Eckstein means we have to go get Tejada. This season is a failure if we don’t get Tejada. The only way to get Tejada, who we need and will die without, is to give up Luebke or Castro.”

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still can't get over

the fact that Torre starts Belliard over DeWitt against LHP, despite the fact that DeWitt has a better split against them.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Torre and Belliard need to get a room

He started him over Hudson last year, remember?

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

He essentially benched Hudson during the playoffs.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's such a bad manager.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

He’s probably a very steady presence in the clubhouse, he does a good job of deflecting media, he lets players know where they stand and he garners respect. But, I don’t think anyone ever really taught him much about the strategy of the game. I think, like most managers, he picked it up from all the wrong places and was never a student of the game.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shoudl have said

He’s such a bad in-game manager.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still 2-0 in SF

and 1-0 in LA.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm still pissed that Richard gave up a home run to Jose Reyes

which cost us a win in New York.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Angels lost, btw.

This just isn’t their year. Everything is finally coming back to bite them in the ass, after years of defying the odds.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha the crowd in LA cheers

when Ethier makes a routine catch in left. Even those are an adventure.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Rodrigo Lopez is having one of his better starts

but his team is blowing it because they suck.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey, the Mets have a baserunner!

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's see if they can avoid having this one thrown out.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

3-0 Giants

if we still care about that.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Mets have 1st and 3rd with 1 out.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

And the first guy Ks.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of a shitty call.

Very marginally in the zone.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gameday.

They finally turned off my free trial.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

But seeing as I live in Costa Mesa

I get the game on TV.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah okay

I was just wondering if you still had that trial! Le sigh

jtb yl1

by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

They wised up

and turned it off a day late. I got to watch our comeback last night though.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The dodger are winning with one hit?

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by Ketchup on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

dodgers*

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by Ketchup on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Walk followed by double.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bases loaded with the pitcher up for the Mets.

2-2 count and 2 outs.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Ground out. Inning over.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to Vin

Kershaw will still start Sunday as scheduled.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Is Jonathan Galvez a serious prospect?

Apparently he had a big night. Three home runs.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks.

His power seems to have vanished since coming to the US, which kind of sucks.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully time will do the trick.

He’s only 19 and I think he’s played American ball for only 2 seasons. Perhaps he’ll turn out to be something someday, and the fact that he’s SS/2B can only help him with future prospects.

I’m more grateful that our Dominican academy is apparently doing well.

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uhhh, yeah

He’s one of our highest upside prospects we have. He’’s been highly touted since we signed him.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling

He’s going to tear up the Cal league. He has all the tools including some plate discipline. He just needs to play better defense to solidify a middle infield spot.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent.

See you in 2015 kid.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something like that

He’ll get here when Rincon gets here.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

World Series in 2017 baby!!

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness

The guys in the lower levels are some pretty high upside guys. If they all came together we would have quite a core. Obviously its a long shot, but at least its a shot.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have to be due some successes, after so many failures right?

Seriously though, I felt like our lower levels had some really nice pieces and I thought we’d start to really win some ballgames around 2013-2014. I never imagined we’d be good so soon.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm curious to know what y'all think of Allan Dykstra?

Do you have any hope for him?

And Zach, I hope we’re good to. If the inevitable Tradrian moment has to come as well, if we can acquire the right guys, perhaps the future is even brighter (all I can hope for is that we can replicate the Marlins and find our Hanley Ramirez).

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally I think Dykstra sucks.

And yes. Though I do think it’s pretty clear we are good now; we wouldn’t be where we are if we weren’t.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though I still can't for the life of me

figure out why or how it happened. I predicted 79 wins and a 4th place finish.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay good, b/c I don't like Dykstra either.

Was great at Wake Forest but I don’t think he was special enough to be a first rounder. Hopefully he lives up to his Jim Thome comparisons, and that’s an overly optimistic hope

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one is paying any attention to the things I write at the bottom of this thread.

Awesome.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

*Stausome.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello?!?!!!

anybody home?!

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Hello dear, welcome home!

I’m making roast beef tonight. Would you like something to eat now or later?

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, later. But, I want some mashed potatoes with the roast beef.

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure thing honey.

Would you like a massage after a long day at the office?

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, just a scotch

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, so typical of you

When I want to be close to you, you run straight to your collection of booze!

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, jeez not this sh!t again!!! I work my ass off all day and I just want a effing drink is that O.K.?!!

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, well excuse me for trying to have a relationship with you!

Try thinking about what I want, every once in a while, before you plop your ass down on the couch and run to your scotch!

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, that's what Oprah is for!

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goddamnit!

You do this every time! I’ve worked pretty damn hard too, and It would be nice if we actually talked to each other! I’m your wife, i’m not a f**ing bartender! You know what, just get your own goddamn scotch, you ungrateful jackass!

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what?! F--k it!!! I'm going to the gym!!

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gym my ass!

You’re going to see that whore at the bar, aren’t you??? While you’re at the “gym”, i’m packing my things and the kids, and staying with mom for a couple of days! Enjoy the “gym” you bastard!!!

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do it, I dare you.

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by tonoxtono on Jul 23, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeez, the Mets can't do anything right

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

wright

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by Ketchup on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

They suck.

No wild card for them.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm also interested in Corey Kluber.

He’s always posted high strikeout numbers, and this year he seems to have gotten his walks under control. Maybe he can be something.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

With high strikeout guys

You can always make them into relievers. That’s the beauty of having them. And you have to keep those bullpen arms flowing.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

So even if he flames out as a starter he can be a reliever. That's good.

Though if he can continue to show improved control as he has so far this season, he may still have a shot at being a starter.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys like Webb, Russell and Frieri all had shots at starter too

And you can see how well it turns out even when they fail.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frieri looks pretty impressive.

His curveball was generating swings and misses, which is a good thing.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

He didn’t show it much when I saw him live on Sunday and I didn’t get to watch his last outing where he was throwing. I’d like to see it whenever I finally see him and he throws it (obviously not tomorrow).

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've got to be one of the best organizations in baseball

at finding and developing good bullpen guys.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a bit there

We were taking advantage of teams that gave up too easily on power arms (Bell and Linebrink).

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if we don't keep the bullpen arms flowing

we end up like the Angels, married to Brian Fuentes and Fernando Rodney for tens of millions.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

You can go the dumpster diving route. Far more fruitful than the Angels route.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're so DUMB I can't get over it.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha Angel Pagan just made a great catch in left center

and he just looks pissed off that he had to run over there.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

This is it for the D-Bags

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

It's been it for them for a while.

They suck.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the D-bags lost

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Surprise of the century.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed, I'm shocked

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by tonoxtono on Jul 22, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't say!

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp just ripped a solo shot to lead off the 7th.

Dodgers lead 2-0. Blast.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I swear

Angel Pagan looks mad every time he has to make a play. Like, how dare they hit it at me.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

And he just yelled at Jose Reyes

for attempting to catch a pop-up that he felt belonged to the center fielder. That dude is just mad at everything.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

For those who are football inclined

Elvis Dumervil just got an extension with the Broncos. 6 years, $61.5m.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Deserves it IMO

Just curious, he was a RFA right?

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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 22, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

more like

hint hint Charger holdouts. End your holdout and you might get an extension.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a real interesting tidbit from a Krasovic article that a lot of people missed I think.
* Hoyer tells me he’s eyeing a few right-handed relievers in the trade market, which may reflect concerns about the durability of his bullpen. All the same, the Padres’ depth there is still the envy of many clubs. Same scout told me Ryan Webb would pitch with small leads in the seventh or eight inning for a lot of teams. Ernesto Frieri impressed the scouts who watched his season debut. If the Padres want to get creative, Kevin Correia is a better bullpen option than several clubs have (if that move happens, pitching coach Darren Balsley is a tremendous resource, because I think he’d be able to get Correia in the right frame of mind to accept it).

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

It kinda sucks for Kevin, because he was a tremendous resource for this club last year

but he just hasn’t pitched well this year and is a liability in the rotation.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox bullpen is a disaster.

I wonder if they’d give us something nice for one of our relievers.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think

Beantown is that desperate.

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their fans certainly are.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers win.

We lose a game to everyone but Colorado.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I just heard that chipper jones said
We should have swept them, we know it and they know it

On ESPN, WTF?

by TJB on Jul 22, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Dick.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 22, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting ahead of ourselves, aren't we Chipper

We’ll be glad to settle this….in October.

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by Jonathan Holmes on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder

If he thinks Hairston was really out at the plate and never looked at a replay. Otherwise, I don’t understand why he thinks the Padres would know it. The Padres beat them fair and square.

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by Wonko on Jul 22, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess is

he means it was fluky that we scored off Wagner.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 23, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then he's a dick.

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by Wonko on Jul 23, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's my impression.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 23, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

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