Mat Latos to the DL: Fact or Fiction?
by jbox on Jul 12, 2010 9:47 AM PDT
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PrintAbout a month and a half ago we heard a rumor from one of our scruffy looking sources that GM Jed Hoyer planned to have Mat Latos fake an injury sometime around the All Star Break and be put on the Disabled List. It was thought to be a good way to give him rest and limit his innings while not wasting his roster spot.
I trusted the source but wondered if the Padres' plans had changed with Mat Latos becoming a possible All Star candidate. I switched into wait and see mode last week.
Last night Friarhood tweeted:
Breaking News: Mat Latos to be placed on the DL #Padres
Friarhood has displayed a friendly relationship with Latos, so my guess would be that his information came straight from the horse's mouth or was at least confirmed by him. I really don't know though. I do know that you should never look a gift horse in the mouth, but at this time that advice doesn't have any bearing on this supposed incident. Or does it?!
Strange that at virtually the same time as the tweet a Union Tribune article was posted quoting Manager Buddy Black about Latos' condition:
"Mat’s doing great," Black said. "He feels fine; he’s making his sides (throwing sessions), holding his stuff. Mentally, he’s up for the challenge.
It just seems weird that if you are planning on faking a player injury that the Manager would talk about how great the player is feeling just prior to the "injury". When I call in "sick" to work I start sniffling and coughing a few days before hand, why can't the Padres and Latos do the same thing? It's certainly possible that Latos was hurt between the time Black talked to the UT and yesterday night, but it is more likely this is part of the Padres plan to rest Latos..
Aren't there rules against putting a player on the Disabled List when the player isn't really hurt? Wouldn't this be openly mocking those rules? I'm interested to see how this will play out.
Craig Elsten of 619Sports asks the question:
Of course, the man’s not injured so the Padres would be cheating. Why not, if you really wanted to get another player up and make use of the Latos roster spot, option him out? Latos has plenty of options remaining.
There have been no confirmations from any news sources this morning.
[Note by jbox, 07/13/10 8:50 AM PDT ]
Latos does appear to be headed to the DL, but not due to forearm tightness as formerly rumored. Still find it strange that Bud Black didn't mention this "tug" when commenting on Latos' status and now it might be serious enough put him on the DL. The conspiracy continues...
Latos might be placed on disabled list - SignOnSanDiego.com
Although he has pitched 18 scoreless innings since, that "tug" could lead Latos into going on the disabled list this week as part of the Padres’ desire to limit his innings and appearances over the second half of the season.
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You guys are awesome
I think it’s amazing, you never miss a thing. Per the commish’s office they do not like any news announced prior to the All Star Game by teams or players not involved in the game.
With that said, I will hold my position until Wednesday, at which point I will either be a public punching bag or just a guy who reported some news.
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by Steve Adler on Jul 12, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
this just in
something will happen to Mat Latos at some point.
/joking around
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by John Gennaro on Jul 12, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is all your fault, Steve.
I hope you’re happy.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
by Mad_Villain on Jul 12, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
My question then is
why not wait until Tuesday to tweet it? So, like, it doesn’t draw the kind of attention its now getting…
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any publicity is good publicity, or something like that.
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Great point
Honestly, the other times we got news first either Corey Brock or Dan Hayes tweeted the same thing within ten minutes. I did not feel this would be any different.
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Olly Perez?
MLB doesn’t like the whole fake DL thing. They can/will investigate and demand medical records to back up the claim.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5263657
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by John Gennaro on Jul 12, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
But just what is the correct medical terminology for "the suck"?
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by Boilermaker19 on Jul 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Le Suckage
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by Jordan_Ming on Jul 12, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
"Sean Gallagher"
Or in more recent cases, “Luke Gregerson Syndrome”
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Luke Gregorsyndrome
Also known as: Luke Mujica
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by Mad_Villain on Jul 12, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
True
As you know at this point in the season a lot of the players are dinged up. Given the fact that Latos is the “golden arm” on the franchise at this point, I don’t think MLB could argue with sitting him down with some tightness.
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If I understand correctly.
They are placing Latos at the back of the rotation and he may skip another start due to the team having days off. Since he won’t actually miss a start. The DL move would allow them to bring up an extra bullpen arm for at that time period. The down side would be that in the event of an injury to one of the other starters Latos would not be available to pitch.
For my money, the risk reward does not add up.
by field39 on Jul 12, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Fiction
There is no need to put him on the DL, all star break gives them the chance to rest him without needing another arm. Stauffer can spot start or pitch in the 7th to spell Luke once in a while. Besides, if they put him on the DL with no apparent injury the league will be on them like they were on the Mets about Oli Perez.
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by Axion on Jul 12, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
a few weeks ago?
I thought it was a few months ago when I unsubscribed to all the geeks.com emails I kept getting. meh
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lol
I wouldn’t know if you were subscribed or not, that’s not my job, never was, and I’m not so petty as to think the two things were related.
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by Axion on Jul 12, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would someone please explain what the heck is going on?
I am confused….
Is there actually any evidence that he is on the DL?
If not, then I want to claim that we actually ALSO put both Hairstons AND both catchers on the DL.
keep that on the DL, though.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing like a little All Star break drama
I think putting him on the DL is a little over the top. Just have him skip a star here and a start there. I still believe giving him extended time off might really hurt his momentum.
Either way, if and when the Padres get into a really big game this year, I really hope Latos doesn’t suck like our old buddy Peavy, I don’t think he will. Mat seems to be a real winner.
Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Jul 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
I heard
that he’s on the DL hoping the missing “t” in Mat heals enough
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by thenerdhater on Jul 12, 2010 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
This cracked me up
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by Winfield's Ghost on Jul 12, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
This should be green’d
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Heh
Friarhood did tweet, “I think Mat’s injury is going to be his foot, cause he’s been kicking so much ass”
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Conspiracy Theories...
OMFG DL YOUR BEST PITCHER….THAT’S THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT r0cki3s AND THE MAGIC HUMIDOR!
All kidding aside, as a Rockies fan, anything they do to keep him out of the lineup is okay by me…
Oh, now be honest, NL West rivals, warriors to warriors. You do prefer it this way, don't you, as it was meant to be? No peace in our time. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends."
by jasontheuncatchable on Jul 12, 2010 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
Rockies are cheaters
FIRE BUD BLACK
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 12, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Innings Limit
I’m liking this creative way to get a little extra rest for Latos. Why do we really need an extra player though? Stauffer should be able to fill in just fine, and I’m sure none of our batters we would call up could do much.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 12, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If Stauffer fills in as the starter, then we're down a bullpen arm
The point is to create an opening to bring in an extra BP arm
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Did somebody say BP arm?
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Bullpen
not Batting Practice
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Wait
We aren’t supposed to be looking for socks stuffed in his pants, are we?
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Congratulations!
You’ve been jodes’d
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by Jordan_Ming on Jul 13, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
They're close but still wrong.
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by TheThinGwynn on Jul 13, 2010 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
But which bullpen arm would we bring up?
I guess my point was, is there really any advantage to bringing another person up? It is good to have another bullpen arm to eat up innings, but in crucial games we should stick with what’s working. For a team that doesn’t put up many runs, we need an elite bullpen, not just innings eaters. It seems to me that we have much more flexibility keeping Latos active than placing him on the DL to get rest.
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or as Zach pointed out: Frieri
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Ernesto Frieri
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Aaron Poreda
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Luis Perdomo
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has Perdomo finally locked it down?
At least for now?
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Better than Russell has
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the name Perdomo still scares me
So I’m always leery of bringing him back, heh.
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He hasn't been perfect
But, like I said, there a case to be made that he could succeed short term as a major league reliever.
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Good point.
Echoing what you said below, they all could be used to fill a gap for now.
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And some, like Frieri and Poreda
Could use an 15 or so day run in MLBs to help them get closer to establishing themselves as future back-end-of-the-bullpen guys that they are projected to be.
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Poreda
yuck
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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 12, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That seems entirely too dismissive
Of a 23 year old with electric stuff.
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Haha
I’ve been influenced for too much from a minor leaguer with an opinion— a negative one— on Poreda. I have hope
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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 12, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully he can figure out where the strike zone is.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 12, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Or not
And just continue to get people out.
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But I feel like if he can't find the strike zone
he’ll have trouble continuing to get people out.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 12, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously
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Haha my qualms encapsulated
And the qualms of a particular minor league pitcher from my university
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by Allen J. Kha on Jul 12, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The strikezone is totally overrated
It is much more fun to see a baseball go flying to the backstop… I think Major League taught us that if nothing else.
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We are not short on bullpen candidates.
And these guys are all on the 40 man roster and have cases to be made that they could succeed short term in the majors.
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We also have an open 40 man roster spot
Where we could give a guy like Scott Munter another shot at the big leagues if we were so inclined.
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what's the deal with "Options"
for most of these players… how many does a player start with, and do they lose 1 each time they go to the majors and then get sent back down…
or do they have to be there for so many days or anything?
I'm not sure how many a player starts with, I want to say 3.
But they’re “option years”. If a club uses an option, they can move the player up and down between the major and minor leagues as many times as they want that year. Once the player runs out of option years, if they want to move him down to the minors, he has to pass through waivers first, where any other club can claim him.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 12, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know why it gets pluralized
You can be optioned any time within 3 years of your first year on the 40 man roster. After that you can no longer be optioned and it is referred to as “out of options.” Again, I don’t know why they pluralize it. Here is a a quote from Rob Neyer’s transactions primer:
After three years as a pro, a player must be protected on a team’s 40-man roster, or he is eligible for the Rule 5 draft (more on that later). Once he’s served those three years, and assuming he is added to the 40-man roster, his club then has what are called “options” on him.
When a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the 25-man Major League roster, he is on “optional assignment.” One common misconception about the rules is that a player may only be “optioned out” three times. Actually, each player has three option years, and he can be sent up and down as many times as the club chooses within those three seasons.
When you hear that a player is “out of options,” that means he’s been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, beginning with his fourth as a pro, and to be sent down again he’ll have to clear waivers (more on those below).
For example, Edward Mujica spent his first year on a 40 man roster made his major league debut with the Indians in 2006. He split the year between the big leagues and minor leagues. In 2007, he also split the year between the big leagues and minor leagues. In 2008, he spent most of his year with the Indians, but also spent time in AAA. In 2009, he came to camp with the Indians, but they had no room for him on their roster and couldn’t send he to AAA without letting him go through waivers. The Padres picked him up off waivers and have been forced to keep him on the big league (25 man) roster ever since.
Sean Gallagher was similar. He made his debut in 2007 when he was added to the 40 man roster. He spent some time in the big leagues in 2008 and 2009 and then this year was out of options.
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Maybe a trade.....
Placing Latos on the DL allows them to trade for a starter, without immediately removing someone from the 25 man roster.
I just FanShat
The UT has an article up on this very subject now
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I was just about to leave a comment here with its link
Touche, good sir. Until, next time.
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Black prefers Latos to be around
rather than having him go down to Triple AAA; but putting him on the DL is b.s. That “tug” he felt in Florida is ancient history: everyone knows he’s fine.
With the All-Star break, 3 home games followed by another off-day before they hit the road for Atlanta and Pittsburgh, they shouldn’t need to put him on the DL OR send him down.
I know that’s wasting a roster spot, so maybe they’ll feel compelled to put him on the DL or send him to Portland, but, hell, use him as pinch-hitter (at least in Atlanta)! — The guy’s got a better slugging percentage than all but about 5 or 6 guys on the team…. ;)
Now if Adams doesn’t go on the DL but is questionable wit respect to his injury and how much you can use him, then you don’t want to be down TWO pitchers from what you could/should have available; but they don’t even have to decide what to do about Latos before the weekend, if they don’t have to….
Based on what develops — with Adams, Venable, possible trade(s) even, you can always DL him retroactively [if you can really get away with that (crap)…].
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