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  • Friars From Afar :: Friar Forecast
    I’ve heard the rumblings of dissatisfaction coming from Blogistan concerning this year’s San Diego Padres broadcast team; some would say it’s the inevitable product of a youth movement, that when 85-year old Jerry Coleman moves out for a brash upstart like 75-year old Dick Enberg, there are going to be some hiccups.

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    Anyone have any news on Venable?

    "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

    I'm guessing we don't hear anything until tomorrow.

    Just going to get the “day to day” routine for now. With Moyer pitching tonight, Venable was not likely to start anyhow. Maybe Buddy will use him as a decoy to pinch hit though when he really just wants Manuel to counter with a right-handed reliever?

    by elw89 on Jun 5, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Bud Bot has subversion subroutines?

    "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

    If you believe a U-T Staff Writer
    Stairs was sent up in the eighth with runners again on second and first, but mostly because Black wanted right-handed reliever Jose Contreras out of the game and lefty J.C. Romero on the hill, a move that indeed was made and sent Stairs back to the dugout without facing a pitch.

    by elw89 on Jun 5, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

    Bud on the radio

    Just said Will is doubtful for today and they would see in the next few days. Not likely DL though.

    by elw89 on Jun 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

    Why do I feel like the "Hex" story further the curse more than broke it?

    "This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

    by MrDanielX on Jun 5, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

    Because you're a baseball fan

    Doesn’t that by extension make us suspicious and superstitious?

    by scout1222 on Jun 5, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

    This is true.

    "This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

    by MrDanielX on Jun 5, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I also think the Friar Forecast story was good...

    Makes me want to listen to the away broadcasts more, so I can listen to douchebags have to eat their words as the Padres beat their teams sorry overpaid asses.

    "This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

    by MrDanielX on Jun 5, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

    I've been watching the oppositions broadcast ever since

    I went on my Enberg strike. It is fun to hear the cheer and enthusiasm leave the voices of these guys once they find out they’re not playing the Padres from the previous year.

    "There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

    "I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

    by podpeople on Jun 5, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

    just an observation.

    Anybody else think that Enberg has altered his delivery a little bit since our collective groan?

    Last night, while watching the game, I decided to switch game broadcasts, from the Philz to the Padres, and it didn’t seem as infuriating, listening to Enberg, as it usually has. This may be due to the Absolute Homerism of the Philz announcers.

    "There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

    "I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

    by podpeople on Jun 5, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

    Thats the thing isn't it?

    This are HOME media market broadcasts. We don’t need announcers wetting their pants in excitement for the opposition. Complete homerism is acceptable. Is it desired? Probably not to a huge degree. I mean its cool for an announcer to get excited for a genuinely awesome play or pitch for the opposition. I hate to keep going back to the Mud and Matty broadcasts, but I remember when opposition home runs would happen there would be excitement, but soon followed by a some sort of comment that would show their collective displeasure.

    I am all for professionalism, I want my announcers to know about the opponents pitchers and know about baseball, and I don’t need sophomoric jokes all the time… but when it comes to a 3 hour game, I need announcers to error on the side of entertainment vs professionalism, and homerism vs. objectivity.

    "This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

    by MrDanielX on Jun 5, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

    One would get the feeling that Enberg has no alliances,

    and is nothing but a fan of the game. We have grown accustomed to a bit of the Homer mentality with Mud, Matty; sometimes things would get truly weird with those two in the booth, and in may ways that weirdness translated in a groundbreaking way, which allowed me to appreciate the game in a completely different fashion than I ever had. I understand that some folk need a sense of neutrality, especially if you’re a purist, but Enberg comes off like some strange alien vessel that is making observations, gathering data, to take back with him to his home world. The phrase “touch ’em all” alone sounds a bit alien to me.

    Having had been able to listen to the oppositions announcers the past month or so, I have gained further insight into why it is that Enberg’s depiction of the game has bothered me the way as much as it has. its that he has no ties to this team. He doesn’t understand what it means to be a “padres fan.” He cannot relate to our experience as Padres Fans. I dont expect him to BE a Padres fan, of course not, but I want him to be more than just a paid voice in the booth. And thats all I see him as: a paid voice in the booth. For all I care he can announce the fame to himself down in the parking lot.

    though, I’ve been around long enough to know that things change, opinions, people, interests… currency.

    "There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

    "I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

    by podpeople on Jun 5, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

    replace "fame" in second to last sentence with "game"

    thanks.

    "There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

    "I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

    by podpeople on Jun 5, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Today's lineup

    S. Hairston 8
    Eckstein 4
    Gonzalez 3
    Headley 5
    Torrealba 2
    J. Hairston 6
    Salazar 7
    Denorfia 9
    Garland 1.

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    by matthewverygood on Jun 5, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

    whoo...wow.....

    what a lineup !….I look to the ’88 Dodgers for inspiration…joke of a lineup but amazing pitching.

    Padres 2010 Ole'

    by texpadre on Jun 5, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

    dodger lover

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    by TheThinGwynn on Jun 5, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Venable isn't great, but for some reason I feel better with him in there.

    "This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

    by MrDanielX on Jun 5, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I doubt he was going to face the lefthanded Moyer

    Even without the injury. This would the lineup I expected for a lefty pitcher given Buddy’s tendencies.

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Eww

    Why Salad Czar? Why not Anthony in center, and then Shrek and DNorf at the corners?

    by Jordan_Ming on Jun 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Lefty.

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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Yup.

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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Can we just

    get rid of the Czar? I can’t stand him right now. Even his gross batting gloves anger me.

    by Jordan_Ming on Jun 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

    We don't really have any better bench options.

    Besides, he’s been a bit better lately. His OBP is actually a robust .338, and he’s got an 11.3% walk rate.

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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Sorry

    He’s cheap, he’s got the most right handed pop off the bench and he’s not a developing player so you don’t have to worry if he rots on the bench for stretches. He fills a niche.

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Yeah, I'm aware

    and I guess I’d just rather pout about it instead

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    by matthewverygood on Jun 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Same here

    Sorry for being a grumpy mcgrumperson about it

    by Jordan_Ming on Jun 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

    It would be nice though

    if he actually showed some of that pop.

    "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Yeah, I was looking at his numbers

    And while his career numbers still show a guy that has pop, he has only 1 extra base hit this year and its a 2B.

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I totally agree.

    Assuming the talent is actually there, it’s gotta come sooner or later.

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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Hopefully

    That is sometime this season. It’s not unheard of for guys with good skills to just have a miserable season as a bench player. Jerry Hairston basically took two years off at the plate in 2006 and 2007.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

    As opposed to the rest of his career

    Where basically 1 out of every 3 of his hits went for extra bases.

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

    I think his problem is that he's striking out way too much.

    Prior to this year, his K rate in the minors and majors was between 10-16%. This year he’s striking out at a 22.5% clip. He’s just not putting the ball into play enough.

    "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

    And the reason for that is this season

    he’s swinging at 26.6% of pitches outside the zone, whereas last year he only swung at 19.5% of those pitches. Ready needs to tell him to swing less.

    "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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    by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 5, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Seeing Salazar and Denorfia out there semi-regularly

    I do have to point out what a tremendous opportunity that Aaron Cunningham could have had this season. He basically could have Pipped the the LF job if wasn’t do so poorly down in AAA. That is really one of the more regrettable things this season. I’m sure he’s trying and it’s frustrating for him as well, but geez that’s a big, big missed opportunity.

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Well, we brought up Ryan

    when he was hitting .108 or whatever. Is Cunningham on the 40man?

    by Jordan_Ming on Jun 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Yes he is on the 40 man

    We didn’t bring up Ryan to actually get on the field though.

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Yeah, I didn't think he'd get any playing time.

    We’ll see though, what happens with Venable. Maybe we can bring Cunningham up for a few days or so and see how he does

    by Jordan_Ming on Jun 5, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

    A few days was not really what I was talking about

    I was saying they was a window here where he could have basically made Blanks earn his way back to the majors and a starting spot and its been wasted.

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

    *I was saying there was a window

    No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Really?
    “It was a well-fought game on both ends.”

    Really, Bud? 1 for 13 w/ RISP is a well fought game? Really?

    OK, I’m headed back over to Optimist Island now…

    by The Kipper on Jun 5, 2010 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

    Where did this weather come from?

    I was thinking about getting some sun and enjoying the game at Away at the Park.

    by elw89 on Jun 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

    Better get inland

    Its freaking gorgeous in RB with the elves.

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    by Wonko on Jun 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

    Ha!

    Elves?

    by elw89 on Jun 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

    marine layer

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    by justdave on Jun 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

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