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Slow Padres news day

Avenging Jack Murphy

"Shut the fuck up Donnie, you're out of your element!" ~Walter Sobchak from The Big Lebowski

by AIChief on Jun 4, 2010 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Latos makes news tonight

Avenging Jack Murphy

"Shut the fuck up Donnie, you're out of your element!" ~Walter Sobchak from The Big Lebowski

by AIChief on Jun 4, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

She's begging for it

She’s just going to keep comparing things to rape until she knows the difference. The old Drama would’ve done something about that. This one buys roses.

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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Jun 4, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

nothing left but the husk...

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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Jun 4, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get what was so wrong with comparing it to being raped

I can understand somebody listening to that and saying, “that’s a little overboard”, but that’s what exaggerations are. No public apology necessary. But, it does make her like more entertaining and helps the media turn her into the next Britney Spears/Lindsay Lohan incarnation. And we all know well that went before.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

She is a public figure.

Having managed public figures you have to watch your ass all the time. I am sure she got hate mail and phone calls from women who are rape survivors who were offended that she could compare such a violent and dehumanizing physical act to the invasion of privacy that is celebrity.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said, it could be interpreted as an exaggeration meant to create visceral reaction to how violated she feels by the situation. That does not require anyone to send hate mail or phone calls. It’s an artistic license to free speech. People that don’t get that should be the ones apologizing.

Now, she did apologize, but apologizing because people send you hate mail and phone calls to me is worse than not apologizing at all. However, maybe she means it. Maybe she’s just vapid enough not to understand the statement she made in those remarks. I could buy that as well and in which case my opinions on the matter would seem a little off base.

It still doesn’t mean ABCNews.com should be covering it (eyes roll).

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

And you sir, have obviously never worked as an on-the-record

Media consultant, communications director, or press secretary. Everything you said here is correct and valid, but wonderland. Unfortunately public figures have to realize and deal with the media as it is, not as it should be.

She could very well mean what she said with every ounce of her body, but if it has any perceived effect on her future box office viability, she is going to apologize. I, on a personal level, don’t give a shit what celebrities say or think but other people do. She wants to make sure as wide an audience as possible want to see her movies… millions are at stake.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a certain amount of integrity

To not capitulating to the people that send vitriol at you (and probably don’t even seen your movies). However, it’s not the safe approach and most people that advise people to speak on-the-record want to react like cowards because its safer. Obviously her advisors don’t want her to appear headstrong and independent. But, I definitely don’t want to debate the merits of how best forward her career.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true

Most advisors are cowards. I have often advised clients to have balls, but only in the most passive sense because it is not my reputation on the line, it is theirs, and ultimately when I 20 year old new celebrity is the client… its probably better to error on the side of conservative or prudent. Shiit when I was 20 I had no idea who the hell I was or what I wanted to do, I sure this poor girl has no idea either.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That "I" between when & 20 should be an "a".

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The last thing I'm going to say is

That even a public figure should be themselves. Is anyone really going to be that happy if they do a ton of things to keep up appearances instead of expressing themselves?

Maybe that’s the “wonderland” that MrDanielX spoke of earlier, but it seems to me that life’s pursuits would be more fruitful on that path than the one where you apologize for things you are not sorry for (disclaimer: I realize some people will apologize things that they actually are sorry for and that’s fine).

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by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally agree.

This is why celebrities are crazy for the most part… and why I would never want to be one.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same rules apply for athletes.

That’s why it seems that there’s an apology from some athlete for something stupid every week.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jun 4, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good debate. Next can we break down Hannah Montanas public persona?

Show stats, prove your work.

"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me

by padmadfan on Jun 4, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, Jodan fail.

Anyway, it wouldn’t be a fair fight. We’d all get Wonk’d to death ;)

by Jordan_Ming on Jun 4, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jodan wat

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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Jun 4, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Late night, early morning

plus 2 hour drive, and job training. I can has a sleep?

by Jordan_Ming on Jun 4, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a good way to go

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the reasons

I didn’t just table this debate for another forum was that the things I was saying did seem to apply to athletes as well. Can someone go back and edit out the Kristin Stewart stuff and stick in some athlete’s name. Thanks.

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Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Naw, it was interesting. I'm just kidding.

I think the real issue is how we’re conditioned to react with histrionics over every perceived misstatement from public figures.

"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me

by padmadfan on Jun 4, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't really care, either

I’m not interested in the opinions of actors professional pretenders whose most valuable asset is the way they look, ignorant or not.

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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Jun 4, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do like the way she looks

Especially when she’s trying to do her pretending. Its both aesthetically pleasing and humorously amusing.

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by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Is there a more annoying celebrity out there than K-Stew? Don’t get me wrong, she has acting chops (see Adventureland, Panic Room, Into The Wild, The Runaways), but the BS about how much her life sucks now that she’s famous line? Please. Millions of teenage girls would die to take your place to play your whiny, pale-faced brat you’re getting paid millions of dollars for, so just shut up and look emo for the camera.

by Jonathan Holmes on Jun 4, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Being a celebrity sucks

I have managed several politicians… and you are basically writing off normalcy… which is underrated in todays culture. The grass is always greener but its hard to judge a 20 y/o who is realizing how much it sucks.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it sucked so much, she'd find something else to do.

How many accountants are there who realize they hate it and change careers? Plenty. How many lawyers, policemen, salespeople, and secretaries bitch about their jobs and just go out and find another career? Millions.

Yet, you NEVER hear of a famous actor changing his/her profession. I can’t name one. Because it’s an insanely awesome job. I’m sure there are drawbacks to being famous… but I don’t feel one ounce of sympathy for someone like Kristen Stewart. You don’t like it? QUIT. You’re 20 years old, you have all the money and time in the world to find a profession you love.

She must be out of her effing mind if she thinks the average Joe or Jill is going feel bad because too many people want to take pictures of her.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jun 4, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of actors have changed careers

Charles Grodin – humanitarian
Al Franken – politician
Joaquin Phoenix – crazy person

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by matthewverygood on Jun 4, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are certainly ways she could go about changing her life

But then, when I was 20 I was useless and could not make decisions, and I am sure everyone around her who is getting a cut of her cash in some way… agents, family, friends, etc, are telling her to STFU and “look emo for the camera”. When this kind of money is involved it is hard to break away. I would hope, that if she is really unhappy, that someone who actually cares about her would tell her to take a break, go to college or do something else for awhile. Problem is that cultural priorities are misplaces hugely these days.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, completely agree.

It’s sad that if anyone makes a decision based on principles (Pat Tillman) or happiness rather than money, they’re looked at as some kind of freak.

I’m pretty sure that I would HATE being a famous person. Wealth I could deal with… but probably not fame.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jun 4, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I probably would handle both poorly. lol.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

She is pretty hot...

but then all non-Padre fan women ages 13-24 are stupid.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

And just to show I am not sexist

I think guys never stop being stupid.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stats and facts pshh

Headley is the man.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Jun 4, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Checking in on some of our minor leaguers.

Jaff Decker is struggling mightily in Lake Elsinore. I’m really hoping he’s just getting his feet under him after coming back from injury.

Logan Forsythe, also returning recently from injury, is doing pretty well. Not a lot of power yet, but he’s walking like crazy, so hopefully the hitting will come.

Cory Luebke just made his first start of the season after appearing twice in relief. In 12.1 innings pitched, his line is 4 H, 2 ER, 8 K, 4 BB, 0 HR.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 4, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

My theory on Decker

Not having a spring to get ready hurts him. He is very reliant on his batting eye to draw walks and hit with power. He may be out of sync right now because he didn’t get a chance to get his timing right before game action.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on Jun 4, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
Bolts From The Blue - Heavy with the facts, slightly less heavy with the opinions.

by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 4, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Small sample size, but Luebke looks pretty good.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
Bolts From The Blue - Heavy with the facts, slightly less heavy with the opinions.

by Zach (maestro876) on Jun 4, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Philly:

You can have him. Please remit your least-douchey replacement player.

Ohhh! How come nothing is ever boobs or ice cream? - Homer Simpson

by Boilermaker19 on Jun 4, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Such a nice day

I’m thinking about heading down to the park at the park to watch the game with some homeless compadres

Oh! Sweet Nuthin'

by CurbEnthusiasm on Jun 4, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

They’re buying. The Stairs’ way to heaven.

That is quite possibly the worst f_cking writing I’ve ever read.

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by TheThinGwynn on Jun 4, 2010 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

the author

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by Axion on Jun 4, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say I missed it.

I didn’t read it because I knew it was absolute shite from the synopsis.

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by TheThinGwynn on Jun 4, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jun 4, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh great

This should be fun.
And, when I mean fun, I mean this guy will still be the most hated umpire on the field.

by Jonathan Holmes on Jun 4, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's going to give Latos a PG

to make up for it.

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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Jun 4, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

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