Peavy doesn't think Padres will win the West, whines about a bunch of other stuff
by jbox on Jun 10, 2010 1:01 PM PDT
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PrintJake Peavy has never known how to keep his mouth shut. He has an incurable case of verbal diarrhea. He likes to think of himself as a good teammate and a competitor, but at the first sign of trouble he's ready to pack his bags and leave. He should really just embrace the fact that he really just wants to be a mercenary for hire.
Why is he still talking about Kevin Towers? He was fired like 8 months ago. I think it's because the White Sox might start rebuilding and Peavy wants to join the Yankees. He thinks that they are the only team that would accept his contract and remain competitive. He figures that if he kisses Towers' back side then Towers might put in a good word for him with his Yankee co-workers. That's my conspiracy theory.
Also he's probably jealous that the Padres are better off without him and have only improved since he left. The record speaks for itself.
Peavy rips Padres over firing GM
I'm a big fan of Kevin Towers and I wish he was still with the organization but Peavy is trying to accuse the new Padres brass of taking credit for the Padres success when Jed Hoyer has always given credit to Kevin Towers.
"Kevin Towers getting let go out there is an absolute joke," Peavy told FOXSports.com on Wednesday. "You can quote me on that. Kevin Towers is a heck of a general manager.
“You see the product of his work. Moorad and those guys just took over the team last year. They didn’t change that team — (Jon) Garland’s pitched well for them, but they didn’t make any significant moves to that team, that coaching staff.
Peavy also believes that the Padres will probably trade Heath Bell but he still roots for them because he has a lot of friends on the team. Between you and me I've heard from a little birdy that a lot of his "friends" on the Padres were not very fond of him, his extracurricular activities, and his big mouth.
"Are they going to win the West? Probably not. Some of the other teams have a little more talent. But I can’t see why they’re not going to compete all year. And I pull for them. I still have a lot of good friends over there. I wish them all well."
When the going gets tough, Peavy gets going. We've heard all of this double talk before.
Rebuilding not part of Peavy's plan
"At this point in my career, I certainly don't want to be a part of any rebuilding process. I hope that would be understandable," Peavy told MLB.com while waiting out the rain in Detroit on Monday. "But I by no means have mailed it in on the 2010 White Sox.
Peavy on a rebuilding scenario
I'm excited to be in a situation where you talk about it's not going to be a rebuilding process. If that were the case, I would certainly try to be moved
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Scathing. . . .
and 100% true. I have never seen an athlete continue to obsess about his old team as long as Jake has. Sad.
by TheGhostofRickMonday on Jun 10, 2010 1:05 PM PDT reply actions
Jake
This where you want to be when Jesus comes back? Talkin’ bad about the Padres?
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I like Peavy
There I said it.
It seems so obvious that he badly wanted to be a Padre. Greedy bastard should’ve taken a hefty San Diego discount.
Totally disagree about the interpretation of the first article
Peavy thinks Towers shouldn’t have been fired and should be given credit for how well the team is doing this year. He “wouldn’t be surprised” if Bell were traded because Adams and Gregerson are so good that Bell wouldn’t be missed. He thinks the other teams in the division are slightly better, but he’s still rooting for the Padres and thinks they can hang around. Other quotes:
“Those guys know their roles," Peavy said of the relievers. "They’re ready to pitch. Darren Balsley and Darrel Akerfelds, the two coaches, instill so much confidence in those guys. They take the field, thinking they’re sometimes better than they are. That goes a long way, when you have people telling you how good you are.”
“I don’t think it’s a fluke," Peavy said. "They’re not going to hit. They understand that. They’re not hitting now. But they pitch great, and those guys battle. They fight. They play the game the right way. They don’t give guys extra outs.”
It all sounds pretty complimentary to me.
by benrb on Jun 10, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Peavy lover.
I was dating this girl from Canada... after about a month I found out she didn't know what sport the Padres played, she thought "padre" was spelled p-o-d-r-a-y and she thought it was some kind of a fish. Dealbreaker.
by Johnny UT on Jun 10, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hoyer should take more credit.
Hairston x2, Garland, Torrealba… all good moves. I don’t know if we are where we are now without his moves.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Without the Peavy trade last year...
…there wouldn’t have been money for anybody but Shrek.
The fact that he got value for it (Clayton Richard alone is making it worth it talent-wise) is a bonus.
I was dating this girl from Canada... after about a month I found out she didn't know what sport the Padres played, she thought "padre" was spelled p-o-d-r-a-y and she thought it was some kind of a fish. Dealbreaker.
But that doesn't mean Jed didn't do good things with that money
He made good decisions with what he had. The trade happened before he took over.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
no way I see
Towers signing the guys that Hoyer did, No way.
Towers would have gambled and lost big, as he usually did. They guy wasted away many a drafts. screw him.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
Hoyer needs to take credit
in being patient and not trying to rush into putting HIS mark on the team.
Really a lot of GMs wouldn’t have had that much discipline.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
good points
but he had an overriding agenda – the GM/Org. commentary was the thrust.
Padres 2010 Ole'
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by Boilermaker19 on Jun 10, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
Based on the title of the post I expected to see a bunch of trash talk, only to see a bunch of reasonable quotes from Jake that essentially sum up my position on the team. I don’t see the controversy? Unless it’s just a bunch of angry Padres fans rushing to justify the emotional healing process after losing a franchise player by hating on the guy after he left.
by abara on Jun 10, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
if he was pitching worth a shit, it would be fine
He is basically doing to the Sox what he did to the Padres
“…I want to be on a winning team
otherwise trade me to a winning team
and my lousy pitching has nothing to do with it.”
As far as him talking about how well the Padres will do or KT – our record speaks for itself.
"I post like canned meat."
by Hormel on Jun 10, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't begrudge the guy for wanting to play on a contending team at this point in his career
It was clear in 2008 that the Padres weren’t going to be an elite team for a while again (and no, I don’t think we’re an elite team now) and when you’ve been hearing for a year about how you have to be traded and the team is screwed if they keep you, it’s time to move on and prepare for the future.
Does Jake look a bit foolish for offering juicy press quotes at a time when he and his new team are struggling? Sure. But I don’t think his statements about the Padres are unreasonable. Nobody else in baseball thinks we can continue to beat out the division. Why is hearing that from a former teammate so shocking? And why wouldn’t he be upset to hear that his friend, the charismatic “gunslinger” KT, was fired in a housecleaning move? I have no problem with Hoyer and I think he has yet to make a major misstep, but that doesn’t mean I’m not upset about KT being gone.
I, for one, don't take too kindly to your opinion of My Padres.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
by MrDanielX on Jun 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Calm down, MDX. Have another MediFast and a Donovan's steak.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jun 10, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I prefer Ruth Chris.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
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by TheThinGwynn on Jun 10, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If he still was in SD
He would sound like an optimistic fanboy, the way that people have been down on the team.
Seriously I cannot figure out what was so bad about what he said.
I no longer like Peavy. . .
it seems obvious that he is an overpaid, past his peak pitcher who is not suited for the American League.
Perhaps he should just grab that “Baseball Tonight” gig he is clearly gunning for.
by TheGhostofRickMonday on Jun 10, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
I don't think he is smart enough to be in planning a conspiracy.
I think he is just mouthing off because he is frustrated. He is pitching like an average to below average pitcher. His former team is much better after the trade.
He helped the Padres to two playoff appearances… and wanted to be a part of a deep playoff run on a team that would idolize him.
I don’t have a problem with Peavy… I think he is a competitor and he hates his situation… and he is venting to the Media. He probably misses Petco and playing for a gritty team.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Peavy's a douche canoe.
Please don't read my signature.
by SoCalBoltFan on Jun 10, 2010 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Jake was disheartened with Pads plight in March
“It’s disheartening to watch what has happened there (SD)” Jake Peavy (March 2010)
Pads 71-49 (..591) in last 120 reg. season games
Padres 2010 Ole'
I felt bad for Jake...he was bummed about the Padres future during most
of Spring Training….he wanted to save his friend Adrian Gonzalez from the horrors.
Padres 2010 Ole'
If he wants to come back here and join the winner he can tell Ken Williams we would gladly give Mujica for Peavy.
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jun 10, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions
Even Gallagher.
3 for 1
How could they say no?
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jun 10, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm I dunno.
Jake would have to prove he is worth a roster spot… LeBlanc & Correia have better numbers than Jake.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
I guess he would be better than Gallegher & Mujica.
Peavy can take a spot in the ’pen with Stauffy.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Stauffy
can get the close games, and we can put Jake in as the number #2 long reliever
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Long Reliever?
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Pinch hitter
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by Axion on Jun 10, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, Peavy you rascal
Gotta love the guy.
"Get your hopes up. That's what hopes are for by the way, to get up. You don't get your hopes down, you get your hopes up." -Jeffrey Tambor
I'm really not offended by anything he said.
I just wish he’d STFU about the Padres. Jake, you don’t play here anymore, and everyone else has moved on.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jun 10, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions
I sure he didn’t hold a press conference.
“are the padres for real” is a major story line this season, and the only name that the most of the media know that is associated with the padres is peavy. So they ask and he talks. He’s loose lipped for sure, but I don’t know if he is obsessed with the pads.
Anybody notice
the two contracts signed by the two young aces of the natinonal league after the same time hasen’t worked out so well. Peavy and C. Zambrono.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Zambrono was mislabeled
He is more of a #3 starter. I believe most of the sabremeterics community has been harping on that for quite some time.
by polyrhythm07 on Jun 10, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
mislableled?????
he got a huge contract, mislable is calling someone an Ace and they are a number 3.
Paying someone a $120M contract is taking a Dodger on all common sense.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Yeah, exactly
He is not an Ace. He profiles more as a #3. Mislabeled.
by polyrhythm07 on Jun 11, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
What a dick!
I used to like this guy.
I even have Pads jersey with his name on the back.
Now after reading his comments, i’m actually glad we got rid of him.
Yo, Jake: how’s Ozzie Guillen and the White Sox stint working out for ’ya? Stand down, jerk.
by Jonathan Holmes on Jun 10, 2010 1:53 PM PDT reply actions
I love Jake, but this just takes the cake
Talk about your own team and your own pitching Jake. And don’t say that we’re not going to win the NL West. You’re not going to win the AL Central. So there.
by unfinishedbusiness on Jun 10, 2010 2:05 PM PDT reply actions
I feel so bad for Joey Cora.
He has to put up with this jerk(off) seven months a year.
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LOL
Mujica has lower ERA the Jake.
Not that it means anything, it just made me giggle.
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So does Gallegher.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
let's face it - our entire pitching staff is better than Jake and better without Jake
"I post like canned meat."
But also. Peavy in PETCO would help his numbers.
I still feel more confident in Burroughs pitching than Mujica
by LetBurroughsPitch on Jun 10, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
True. He was never that sinker, pitch to contact sort of guy
He still has decent K’s. But his gb/fg ratio… from what I understand has never been great.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Why did the White Sox want him again?
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Jake's FIP is a half run lower Mujica's
Although Mujica’s xFIP is 1 1/2 runs lower than Jake’s xFIP
Edward seriously needs to curb that gopherball problem. 2.48 HR/9 is unacceptable. His other stats are rather awesome (9.31 K/9, 0.93/BB), albeit his BABIP is .213 compared to Jake’s .308.
Jake should have never went to extreme flyball park, and one in the AL no less!
by polyrhythm07 on Jun 10, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
When most of your outcomes
Are homeruns and strikeouts, its going to be hard to avoid a fluky BABIP. It’s also harder for it to regress to the mean.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I'm tired of the phrase "regress to the mean"
The “mean” can suck my left nut. I don’t give two squirts of piss what PECOTA says… Or what players are projected to be, or if they are “playing above or below their heads”. They are people capable on any given night to achieve amazing feats of greatness or suckatitude. Mujica gives up HR’s… Gregerson is a beast. My Padres are ass kicking and should be like 6 games in first place. if it were not for the collective uselessness of the rest of the NL to beat the Dodgers.
This made no sense… but it had to be said.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
So naive.
Plus. I was talking about BABIP anyway, which a pitcher has very little control over. So he could do his amazing feats of suckitude or greatness and he wouldn’t be able to effect it enough to stop it from going where its going to go. Historically, that place is towards the mean. In Mujica’s case he gives up too many HRs and strikes out too many hitters to ever give up enough balls in play that would make the sample size meaningful. That’s all I was saying.
And remember, things aren’t going to regress towards their mean; they are likely to regress towards the mean. Huge difference. There’s not some hands of fate pushing them in a direction. It’s just a probability that doesn’t have a high certainly due to it being impacted by real people doing somewhat random stuff.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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by Wonko on Jun 10, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good... the second paragraph gives me a warm fuzzy
I have regressed back to my mean.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Everything in moderation
Regression to the mean is a fact of life when analyzing trends in data sets and even people can be part of a data set.
However, as stuff gets more advanced you can start to illustrate your frustration. Take Aramis Ramirez. Using tools from 10 years ago you would see his start to the season, you would see if projections and his very consistent production and you would assume that even though he started out poor the rest of his season is likely to show regression to the mean of either his projections or his 3 year average. However, nowadays you can pick apart the details. You can see that he’s swinging at pitches he didn’t used to swing at. You can also see that he’s swinging and missing at a greater rate. You can get a picture of a guy that, unless he proactively adjusts his approach, is not going to magically turn back into his old self. You would have to be stuck in the past to believe in the gospel of the stats over the reality of what is happening. Like I said, real people doing somewhat random stuff.
However, for every Aramis Ramirez who comes apart at the seems and watches his career go down the toilet, you can get an Alfonso Soriano who suddenly resurrects it without any trend to support it. This makes the numbers balance in the big picture and makes the game interesting to everybody, including the hardcore number crunchers.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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by Wonko on Jun 10, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am just pissed at people slapping the freaking "RTM" label on someone
Like they have no say in what they become.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
cub lover.
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by TheThinGwynn on Jun 10, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I was actually thinking that as I wrote it.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I might copy this and use it elsewhere. With no credit given, of course.
I post on another site and argue about baseball stuff… and it drives me batsh*t crazy when people use “regress to the mean” to predict everything.
Every schlub who can add two numbers together now fancies himself a baseball statistician ever since the term “regress to the mean” was introduced into common vernacular.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jun 10, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
"If that were the case, I would certainly try to be moved ..."
CWS: 26-33
by soulSD on Jun 10, 2010 10:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
first off,
Towers DESTROYED this organization with horrible drafts! he had complete control over such things until Alderson came along and straightened things out a bit. screw the injury bug, these guys do enough scouting to know who has the potential for such things. I mean, Come on, these guys/scouts have been in the craft all their lives! Towers made a few great trades, but to say his he was a great, even GOOD, GM, NO WAY. He’s the reason this team has suffered as long as it has. SHit, he’s not responsible for the Peavey trade, the SCOUTS are, they told him who had stuff. geeesh.
pennies, anyone?
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
RE: Leaving the White Sox for the Yankees, who can absorb his contract and be competitive
Yankees
White Sox
Jake
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Mr. Predictable
…I GUARANTEE you, if the Chi Sox had a better win/loss record than the Pads..and if they were leading in their standings, we wouldnt hear a peep out of Jake. Mr. Predictable, doesnt have the balls to admit that he would relish the chance to be here again. He saw this coming..
..and he did everything in his power to delay and put off his being traaded. Aint it funny, how the face of the franchise left and the team went straight to the top with less offense thana when he was here…LOL…I think its hilarious.
And his ERA will continue to suffer as long as he’s in the AL…you can take that to the bank.
He should know his Padres History
Jake should have known that leaving SD for fame and fortune does not work most fo the time. Look at John Montefusco. Great in SD, not so great in NY. Andy Benes, Adam Eaton, Kevin Brown, Mark Davis all had similar fates.
Peavy
Headline was too long, should have been “Peavy doesn’t think.”
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