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Padres players support using tasers on fans

Marty Caswell (Marty1090 Twitter) interviewed the Padres players yesterday about tasering fans:

 

I think tasing a fan is overkill. Only if a fan pulls a weapon or starts acting violently towards a player would I think it'd be necessary.

Why are these baseball players so scared of a fan?  99% of fans just run around on the field and don't even approach players.  If a fan can out run security and catch a player than they belong on the field! 

Hairston, Hundley and Headley are the only ones that say they'll just avoid the fan.  Everybody else wants them tased, to fight them or throw a fast ball at them.

If there was a fight on the field between players, should teammates rushing out of the dugout and bullpen to join the fight be tased?  I wonder how the players would answer that question.

It makes me uncomfortable how some of the Padres interviewed sound excited and eager to watch a fan get tased.  They sound like sadists.


Video of the Phillies fan that was tased after the jump.  See if you can spot which player was in danger from that Philly fan running in circles waving a towel because I can't.

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I said yes

But only if they look like they are making a B-Line for a player if they are just trying to outrun the guard im looking for the old school tackle and lock him up

The one and only AzDuck

by Dude52089 on May 5, 2010 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

You slut

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Monica Seles

Tase their ass.

"I've got great references. Ask Drama."

by Drama on May 5, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

If you are stopping violence

tase ’em.

If if you’re just a cop with too many pounded donuts and someguy is doing snow angels on the field, sorry chubby but you got to chase him down.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually...

I think it’s easier to chase the dude down if they’re being temporarily electrocuted.

by Dex on May 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's my feeling

Regardless of you acting in a threatening manner or not, as soon as you hop that fence and go onto the field, you deserve what’s coming to you (so long as it’s non-lethal, obviously).

I don’t feel bad for the guy whatsoever. A) He’s a Philies fan and B) he knew what he was doing was wrong and idiotic, he paid the consequences.

by creanium on May 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that's the case

Then at least when they do the announcement about not going on the field, then list the tasing/pepper spraying as part of the consequences.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wouldn't matter

They are already too drunk to pay attention to announcement. This way, it’s more like a little electrical surprise!

Thank you for waving at me.

by Winfield's Ghost on May 5, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on May 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

UGH. Green?

I don’t think you people realize that Drama’s going to masturbate to the greenness of this comment tonight. You’re contributing to really disgusting behavior by making his comment green.

by Dex on May 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I agree 110%

I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?

by tonoxtono on May 5, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"And now for something completely different"

by Boilermaker19 on May 5, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't surprise me that they're in favor of tasing.

They’re the ones who are being threatened.

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by Zach (maestro876) on May 5, 2010 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

verde!

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by TheThinGwynn on May 5, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

are you trying to kill Shamu? What if he leapt out of the pool and hit the fence?

Thank you for waving at me.

by Winfield's Ghost on May 5, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Beautiful.

This place needs more WG more often.

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by TheThinGwynn on May 5, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I do love the guy.

"I've got great references. Ask Drama."

by Drama on May 5, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no way to know what the guy

is thinking, this is a situation to be proactive, not reactive.

Taze them, before something worse happens.

Embarass the organization...VEGEMITE!!! ~Bud Black

by icaughthundleys#4 on May 5, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

He would've been hurt worst if there was no taser involved.

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by Axion on May 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

worse*

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by Axion on May 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tase that guy

There are two types of people who rush the field in the middle of the game:
1. Douchebag
2. Hot and/or Naked Chick

Tase the douchebags. There is no such thing as a non-douchebag male who rushes the field and there is no such thing as a chick who rushes the field who isn’t hot and/or naked.

For those of you who have rushed the field in the past, I guarantee you that you fit one of those two categories. Also, douchebags should probably be tased out of principle. Hot chicks should never be tased. Teased. Not Tased.

by Dex on May 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Good to see

some of the players at least have a nuanced view on this matter.

by sixpakfrombelgium on May 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

i have no problem with the tasing.

maybe it will stop these asshats from running on the field in the first place.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

nope

guy did it in Philly again last night

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on May 5, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That guy was fat tho...

no need to tase

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on May 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was holding too

oh Philadelphia

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on May 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

aparently it made TV?

i don’t know, i am guessing it did, thats how you know about it? .. if so, shame on the TV execs for giving the asshat his 3 minutes of fame.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

Jim Rome and it was just the final topic on Around The Horn too

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on May 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You watch Around the Horn???

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by Drama on May 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Woody Paige

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it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 5, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

Reali is the man

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on May 5, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tase great!!!

Less filling???

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 2:25 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

There should be trap doors on the field that open up to

starving tigers below. then have all the Tiger action show up on the jumbotron

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

During the Padres Victory Celebration

on Saturday, a ten year old kid ran onto the field and was tackled by security, he probably won’t be charged with anything…if he got Tazed, i bet he would never try it again

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by icaughthundleys#4 on May 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Friday*

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by icaughthundleys#4 on May 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know how much im for tazing kids

Teens/adults i would kids not so much

The one and only AzDuck

by Dude52089 on May 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

let him spend the weekend in Juvee.

i bet that would stop him from doing it again too.
either way, i am all for tasing these idiots.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was

about to ask a ‘what if’ scenario with a youngin too. I don’t think they should be tasered, but if you are old enough,TASE EM.

by Ilikecheeserolls on May 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pro Tase

Games are long enough without out having idiots run on the field. Tase enough of them and maybe they will knock it off. Though human stupidity knows no bounds.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

There should be a tase chair

kinda like the electric chair except non lethal. It would be great for public humiliation.

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe they police should just tase any one any time,

they think they are doing, or might do someting wrong.

by field39 on May 5, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Why just the field?

Why not allow them to disperse punishment any time they see fit. It is the same thing.

by field39 on May 5, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is tasing someone when trying to stop them from breaking a law the same thing as tasing them for not breaking the law?

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

in this case, yes.

the guy was doing everything in his power to avoid arrest. Tasing somebody resisting arrest IS reasonable force.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

But, if you can arrest a guy without tasing, then you probably shouldn’t tase.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is case by case.

Whhat is being talked about here is: “Anyone who steps on the field should be tased.”
There is a big difference between a policy of instant tasting and reasonable force on a case by case basis.

by field39 on May 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who, other than you, ever said "anyone who steps on the field should be tased"?

But by stepping on the field when you know damn well you shouldn’t be on the field, you give up any expectations to not be tased.

Is this any different than, say, he had broken his arm or busted his face open being tackled to the ground. Is that excessive force? And something like a broken limb has bigger ramifications and longer healing period than being tased.

by creanium on May 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The entire them of this thread is tase them they deserve it.

I don’t know why, but I am alway suprised at how quickly people want to hand over power to whoever happens to be in charge at the time.

by field39 on May 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

because we're sheep

please, lead us

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)

i am here to add levity

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Benjamin Franklin once said

and I quote: Those that would choose security over liberty, deserve neither.

by The Kipper on May 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

im biting my tongue because of my settings

but you have NO idea how many political arguments / debates i’ve had over this very subject. i just find it hilarious / disturbing / weird / awesome that we are having it on the ONE place on the internet that i visit to NOT have to think about my job.

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, thats not the question you posed at all.

you said ." .. Maybe they police should just tase any one any time they might do something wrong" and you followed it up with “Why not allow them to disperse punishment any time they see fit”.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was over the top enough to get people to understand

why you draw a line between reasonable force and punishment. I was wrong.

by field39 on May 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I followed you

I think the problem is that wveres and others don’t see tasing as a punishment and creanium just got lost along the way.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don't feel that tasing is punishment.

jail, a fine, that’s punishment. Tasing is inconvenient. The minute the security guard lets go of the trigger your “punishment” ends.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This for me too.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally

I think that anything that causes physical pain is a punishment, unless it falls under reasonable force. In this case, it was reasonable force. But, not every fan reasonably requires tasing to be removed from the field. I know, because I’ve seen fans be removed without tasing.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess the question is

How long do you chase someone around until you say ‘screw it, tase him’?

From the time the video of Philly fan starts to face on the ground is just about 10 seconds. How long he was running around before that I have no idea.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that the Philly fan wasn't reasonable force.

I’m just not in favor of immediately tasing anyone.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically

Any policy where the first reaction to a fan going on the field is to tase them. I would think a policy would be something like “Ask them to remove their person from the field”, “Attempt to escort them off the field”, “Use reasonable force to stop them from continuing the disruption” Or something like that.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

my policy

1-taze the fan
2-eat cheetohs
3-run out on to the field to catch the crazy guy running around
4-avoid prosecution for randomly tazing peaceful customers

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically

Isn’t that what the Padres players are saying?

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

arent these security guys protected by the same laws that protect bouncers?

because i know a bouncer can whoop your ass and theres not a damn thing in the world you can do against him legally.

part of their job is that they are trained to determine what is a reasonable threat and act accordingly.

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you can prove that you weren't a reasonable threat

I think you have a case.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

which would be difficult to prove unless you were carrying stuffed animals and pillows

because when the onus is on YOU to prove LACK of intent as opposed to on them to prove intent, it gets real real dicey.

probably why you hear about so few of these guys getting sued.

Where’s ’Tec to chime in on this when ya need him???

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It'd be interesting

Because there would be literally thousands of witnesses at a baseball game.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

can witnesses testify as to intent?

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't they testify

As to whether the force was “reasonable”?

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don't think so

they don’t know if somebody is gonna get Seles’d.

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lets back up.

the video above is 43 seconds long. In that 43 seconds, the asshat ran around resisting arrest, got tased, got arrested, and then got up on his own and walked out under his own power. what was so “unreasonable” about the tasing?

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The part with

The electricity coursing through him.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait

You tricked me. I never said the Philly situation was unreasonable. And I probably don’t think it was.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know ..

and i wasn’t trying to trick you, but you are somewhat arguing against the using of tasing these idiots.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

you and i have both seen ..

video of one of these idiots getting body slammed. I’d argue that caused more pain and suffering that any tasing .. what should they do, tickle the law breaker?

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you are going to body slam someone

Then you should be able to tase them instead.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i worked elite security many years ago

our “training” was a 1 day seminar and a test that you could take unlimited times until you passed it.

by kevintheoman on May 7, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

Just how do you determine what that line is? I dunno . . .

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by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do they determine the line

When to remove a drunken fan or whether a disorderly fan may get violent. Isn’t that what they are there to do?

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

its their job to do that.

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually worked for the event staff

at Qualcomm in 98 and worked the WS and one Chargers v Raiders game. Other than getting to watch the WS it was an awful job . . . I didn’t last long.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should actually rephrase

I’m okay with them tasing, as long its announced as a known consequence. It’s probably more preventative that way anyway. Obviously, there are those that think that sort of force is excessive, yet they do know that they will be arrested for entering the field. Most people would think of getting arrested as physical contact that does not involve tasing, though.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

so security quards tackling somebody ..

and sitting on them with their knee in the guys back doesn’t cause pain? I’d argue the tasing doesn’t last as long and causes less pain, short term AND long term.

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by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

As much as I hate playing “what if”, but, would we even be discussing this had he broken his arm because he was tackled on the infield by the security guard? What makes the tasing so different?

by creanium on May 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think

That the security guard would be liable for any broken body parts if he was not resisting their detainment.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know if that will hold up

I don’t know that it won’t either.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better argument

Breaking an arm would be accident. The tasing is on purpose.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it happened in the course of him being tackled

If he gets tackled without any incident, as is usually the case in these situations, no one ever thinks anything of it.

What makes the tasing any different? The taser was just used to bring him down, he was arrested and walked off without incident after that.

by creanium on May 5, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you tackle someone you aren’t trying to hurt him. When you tase someone, you are. Aren’t you?

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking at some of the many videos on youtube

It seems being tased might be the less painful alternative. Some people really get tackled hard, and on warning track dirt.

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by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine

If you aren’t resisting arrest, then there wouldn’t be a need for a hard tackle.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Just going by youtube video and personal experience it seems like most treat it like a funny game. They run around, trying to avoid security, crowd cheers and then eventually they make a wrong move and someone drops them.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The aim isn’t to hurt someone when you tase them, it’s to subdue them. By causing involuntary contraction of the muscles, it subdues the target. Temporary pain at the site of the electrodes is a byproduct, but the pain subsides as soon as the shock stops and the electrodes are removed.

by creanium on May 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any sort of pain

Seems to me as a violation of due process and should not be taken lightly.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily disagree

But we’re not exactly talking about the electric chair here.

To me, when used properly, the risks involved and the bodily harm the fan on the field endures is no worse than a 270-lb security guard falling on him as he tackles him to the ground.

This, of course, all relies on the guard being trained and using the taser properly and without excessive force (which in this instance, he did it all correctly in my mind).

by creanium on May 5, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just would want to make sure

That it ends up done “correctly” or that at least it is advertised as a known consequence.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that's where I agree with you

In this instance, it was reasonable force. They needed to bring a swift resolution to the disruption and as soon as the guy went down, the guard stopped the tasing (and they pulled the electrodes out). It’s not like he stood over him constantly pressing the trigger just to “teach this kid a lesson”.

That’s not to say I’m in favor of instant tasing should you run onto the field.

by creanium on May 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Premtive tasing?

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy broke the law and is running around the field away from security/police. Are they just supposed to chase him around until he gets tired? If someone is running from a law enforcement officer should the cop just chase him until he gets tired and or stops? Or should he use the taser to stop him?

I don’t see the injustice in stopping someone who is actively breaking the law.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

er read instant justice as injustice

my bad. But still they are breaking a city law.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

annnd this is how you get ppl to talk politics on GLB

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

boooo

we dont get to rush the field when we win the WS

by mofle619 on May 5, 2010 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

id get tazed for a WS victory

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

They can't get all of us!

I’d take that risk.

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by jodes0405 on May 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Question

If there was a fight on the field between players, should teammates rushing out of the dugout and bullpen to join the fight be tased?

by jbox on May 5, 2010 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

That's a little harsh dude

The bullpen should just start launching fastballs at the opposing teams’ players.

by The Kipper on May 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That will just encourage people to bring bats to the fight

You are just escalating the arms race.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

After they are tased.

Should they face criminal charges?

by field39 on May 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they broke a law then yes.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't work that way in hockey

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or boxing

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

or reality

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

provided they press charges

i’ve seen plenty of fights they just break up

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe they said on the pregame in yesterday that in San Diego it is a night in jail and a $1500 fine and that San Diego had one of the lowest instances of this in MLB.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the Rockies broadcast team should be tased til the cows come home

Last night was a 4 hour Ubaldo Jimenez circle jerk.

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

No

Lethal force should be used.

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Righteous Kill

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure

he might enjoy the tasing and what a mess that would turn out to be, literally.

by The Kipper on May 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not me

No desire to run out on the field.

by The Kipper on May 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't either

I paid for my seats so I might as well get all the use I can out of them

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't.

Unless we were storming the field in celebration of winning the WS.

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on May 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

trudat

when we win the WS, I will rush the field and eat the infield grass.

by Dex on May 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

ewwwwwwwwwww

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

following around The Kipper

who would be on fire.

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not me

I don’t need to be the center of attention. I can get on the field at events like Firer Fest if I really need to see what it is like.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would

not

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on May 5, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

i had a buddy streak across the UConn football field wearing nothing but tighty whiteys and a fake beard

and he followed the team in to the tunnel at halftime.

yeah he went to jail.

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that kissing Lady still around?

Would she get tased?

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Morgana?

I think they let her on the field.

552

by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be so F**ked up

if they tased her.

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don't think i have ever seen a video where they chased her.

they would walk out after the fact and escort her off the field, but I am pretty sure they knew what she was going to do ahead of time.

552

by wrveres on May 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thin Jim Tracy should be tased

after the 3rd pitching switch in the same inning

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

sorry, "think"

"You're killing independent George!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by Art Vanndelay on May 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's another scenario

Jayson Werth has just hit a home run in the final game of the NL Championship Series to send the Phillies to another WS and to send the Padres home. Do you tase him?

by Dex on May 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

and his dad

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heck Yeah!!!

I’d step on the switch!

by sqrunt on May 5, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Does he have to hit a home run first?

What ever happened to tasing for tasing’s sake?

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by TheThinGwynn on May 5, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's say that you had a button...

And every time you pushed it, a random, male Dodger fan between the ages of 17 and 45 would get tased with no chance of death or permanent injury. AND… each button push would also donate $20 to a charity of your choosing.

How many times do you push the button?

by Dex on May 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

I disassemble the button

and connect the gate manually for uninterrupted torture charity.

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by Axion on May 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

It doesn't even need to be a male Dodger

People in general would do it a lot.

People will do it just by being ordered by some authoritarian person telling them to… without the money to charity.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahah

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

Whenever I think you can’t take a perfectly good lighthearted comment and turn it into something soul sucking to read, you prove me wrong.

I’m going to request a Gaslamp Ball Tase button.

by Dex on May 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine!

It can be a male Dodger fan.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Milgram?

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on May 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahhh-h-h, yes. Good ol' Stanley.

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by podpeople on May 5, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

does the button ever wear out?

because that is how much

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

There is the episode where they shock each other in Dr. Monroes office

I don’t recall one where a robot was made to shock people. But it has been 20 years and I just can’t remember them all like I used too.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 6, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is this an imposter?

http://www.youtube.com/user/wiggins4ever
I dont think he could get into PB Bar and Grill

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on May 5, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about the people who do the free taco promotion?

If they pick the wrong hat and we don’t get free tacos, TASE THEM.

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on May 5, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Gamboa:

"I loved going into Philadelphia," Gamboa said. "Their fans were just like Chicago. It was electric in the park. It would be a mistake for people to label Philly as a problem city for the acts of a couple stupid wackos.

Electric? Poor choice of words.

by jbox on May 5, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Even poorer
Their fans were just like Chicago

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by Axion on May 5, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Man, this discussion got deep

And all I can think about is how funny that scene in “Fever Pitch” would have been if they had tased Drew Barrymore as she ran across the field to stop Jimmy Fallon from selling his season tickets.

They should definitely tase whoever thought it was a good idea to give Fallon a talk show, and everyone responsible for keeping it on the air.

"And now for something completely different"

by Boilermaker19 on May 5, 2010 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

YOU WATCHED FEVER PITCH?

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it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 5, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regardless of what you believe on this matter

Dont you guys think these videos that Marty is getting are awesome?

We dont ever get to see the guys just hanging out in the clubhouse.

I think its awesome.

by All Things SD on May 5, 2010 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing.

It all seemed so candid, like there’s a definite good rapport between her and the players; they don’t tighten up and get all Crash Davisish.

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by TheThinGwynn on May 5, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tase 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

In all seriousness, I think use of a taser isn’t out of line. Like they say, “If you wanna dance, you gotta pay the fiddler”. As has been pointed out, nobody knows what somebody out there is capable of doing.

Besides, getting tased isn’t that bad. When I was younger, I had a friend whose mom is a police officer and he “borrowed” hers and we all took turns being idiots. Yeah, it sucks but not as bad as getting broken bones from some huge dude tackling you or throwing a fastball at you.

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by TheThinGwynn on May 5, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

If you're of the quality of health

where a taser’s gonna mess you up, you’re still better off not engaging in strenuous physical activity that ends in being gang tackled.

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by Axion on May 5, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

if they catch the suck again

the title should read “Padres fans support using tasers on players”

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by justdave on May 5, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Back in my Highschool days...

It was the CIF championship game being played at the Murph, Mission Bay vs RB. I went to Mission Bay. A buddy and I had agreed to charge the field if we won the game. We won. We jumped up from our seats, and stared at each other, nodded, and hopped over the railing above the Home Dugout to begin the decent down to the field. My buddy just jumped from the railing down to the field, kept his footing and ran to the middle of the diamond and began to share in the celebration. I was not so lucky. when my buddy had jumped from teh railing I was still hanging on trying to figure out a way that I could jump down and not sprain an ankle. by the time I saw him hit the ground, gather himself, and start on a mad dash to the pitchers mound, I had finally decided to just make it a simple free-fall down. what I didnt expect was to be caught by one of the “field-security-guys” and then power bombed onto the turf right in front of the dugout. everybody in the area that I was sitting saw this event transpire as if it were a cinematic event. very embarrassing

anyhow, I jumped onto the field with the intent to enjoy in the celebration of my high school buddies, and instead of partaking in this, my hopes were dashed by the superior body mass of some weird guy that got off on tossing me around like I was some no-name wrestler. All I can say is that it already sucks taht we have to face the possibility that we’re going to get pummeled before thousands of spectators, now the way to make us crap our pants too?

whatever.

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by podpeople on May 5, 2010 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

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