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Padres sweep Giants for second time. Latos throws one hitter, drives in games only run

SAN FRANCISCO - MAY 13:  Mat Latos #38 of the San Diego Padres pitches against the San Francisco Giants during an MLB game at AT&T Park on May 13, 2010 in San Francisco, California.  (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)

The only hit that Mat Latos gave up today was one that he deflected off his glove. Latos was nasty today... like Human Centipede nasty.  If you don't know what Human Centipede is then be thankful. I'm warning you right now, don't look it up. Padres will have to wait for their first no hitter.

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I admit even though Latos was dealing I was a little bit nervous that Black was going to leave him hanging out there in the breeze too long  like Torrealba's back pocket.  Hats off to Latos for the complete game and giving our overworked bullpen a day off.

Now I'm not one that believes in jinxes but is it me or did everybody and their mother mention Latos' perfect game? In the Game Thread on Twitter.  Loose lips sink ships! Just now it's sinking in how close Latos was to a perfect game. Le sigh.

  • Padres sweep the Giants for the second time this season
  • Padres dropped their first 3 series to their opponents but since then have won 7 of their last 8. 
  • Corey Brock tells us Latos has retired 55 of the last 58 hitters he’s faced.
  • Game clocked in just over 2 hours.
  • Latos drove in the only run of the game.

Padres are on a roll!


Final - 5.13.2010 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R
San Diego Padres 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
San Francisco Giants 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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NL West Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
San Diego 22 12 .647 0 Won 3
San Francisco 18 15 .545 3.5 Lost 3
Los Angeles 17 17 .500 5 Won 4
Colorado 16 17 .484 5.5 Won 1
Arizona 14 21 .400 8.5 Lost 6

(updated 5.13.2010 at 3:28 PM PDT)



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Agreed....

Way too many NoNo comments.

by mbcarval on May 13, 2010 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

ELI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 13, 2010 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Whiteside never touched first base.

(Before Adrian caught the ball)

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 13, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok

we’ve seen this about 2000 times now.

by The Kipper on May 13, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It'll be funny for another 2000 times

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by TheAxManCometh on May 13, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

demotivators

are like lolcats without the lol or the cats.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on May 13, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big time series this weekend.

Best hitting club in the NL West vs. best pitching club.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
Bolts From The Blue - Heavy with the facts, slightly less heavy with the opinions.

by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm calling Latos, Kratos or just Katos

I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?

by tonoxtono on May 13, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Latos: "The Freshmaker"

i need someone with PShop skills to make a Latos out of a Mentos

Embarass the organization...VEGEMITE!!! ~Bud Black

by icaughthundleys#4 on May 13, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm off to read McCovey...

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 13, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

me too.

i might bring a salt shaker.

552

by wrveres on May 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't wait.

Those guys are seriously entertaining and funny. I love their sense of humor.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love reading over there

I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?

by tonoxtono on May 13, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are not to happy over there.

i count at least 4 threads with lots of f bombs!!

makes me smile

552

by wrveres on May 13, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way in hell

"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume

by All Things SD on May 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather the no hitter

come from a real one, not a cheapy one awarded after the fact.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

between his pitching and his bat

Latos had .909 WPA for that game according to fangraphs

by abara on May 13, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

Is there a chart that shows the highest WPAs for every player in every game for the whole year?

"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume

by All Things SD on May 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

If you hit a two 2 run walkoff HR, it will be higher.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

*two out 2 run walkoff HR.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

It’s cumulative so you could have WPA over 1 for the game. I bet somebody’s done it.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

but the thing about WPA is that if the situation is close enough to be won on a single AB the percentages reflect that. like, you might have a 1% chance to win at the beginning of the inning, but once there are guys on base and the tying or winning run is at the plate, it’ll be up to 15% or 20%

by abara on May 13, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

You’re right. Ichiro did it earlier this year and got .867 for it. However, he had a guy on second, not first.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have

Lost to the rockies 2 series ago

The one and only AzDuck

by Dude52089 on May 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

wasn't that a 4 game series?

that we split? .. if not, my bad.

552

by wrveres on May 13, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope

3 gamer

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by Dude52089 on May 13, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about

We lost 2 of 3 to the Rockies before taking the Astros and Giants series.

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by All Things SD on May 13, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked today's game

"Lies they are awesome music with an awesome name. Cheers to Heath Bell for having good taste." -Ketchup

by Ketchup on May 13, 2010 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

not even curious what this is

and no way in heck am I going to google it.

by Zen Blade on May 13, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

i shouldnt have

you can’t unsee something like that.

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by justdave on May 13, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gooble Gobble Gooble Gobble

We accept you We Accept you… One of us, one of us…

You sick sick man…

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 13, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’ve been trying to forget that film ever since I heard about it.

by SDzeke on May 13, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

F*ck!

I live right by the Ken.

That means I get to be reminded that such an abomination exists every time I pass by it on my way home.

by SDzeke on May 13, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

A chick that digs baseball and sci-fi?!

You seem to be quite the package EastBay.

The Ken’s a great little theater. There one-night-only specials can be a lot of fun.

by SDzeke on May 14, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

She's single too.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 14, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks

May have to go check it out when Human Centipede is NOT
playing and there is a good sci-fi rocking. :)

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 14, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahhhhhhhhh

i just wikipedia’d it and i’m f_cking horrified.

i think im gonna be sick

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by justdave on May 13, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was curious

But thanks to you I think I will pass.

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah please don't

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www.throughbucknerslegs.com

by justdave on May 13, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I love

is that the guy is planning a SEQUEL! Like there’s more territory to explore there.

by Back2SD2006 on May 13, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

We were so close today...

despite the thrill of the win and shut out and Latos’s great performance…

I can’t feel but a little sad that we lost the perfect game and no hitter on such a play…

so close… I’ve waited 30 years… I can wait a few more, I suppose…

by Zen Blade on May 13, 2010 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Definitely seems worth watching

I’ve got a full slate for thursday tv though.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

P.S.

The Padres are now tied with the Yankees and Twins with the 2nd best record in the MLB.

Rays are 24-10

Pads, Yanks, Twins 22-12

"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume

by All Things SD on May 13, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess you can't be upset when you're 22-12

but if I were the Yanks, I’d be very unhappy with all these small-market teams crawling up my bung.

The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.

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by StrangeBroP25 on May 13, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

after these two starts

I wonder how frantic people are to pick up Latos in fantasy leagues

by abara on May 13, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm die hard

I’ve had him the whole year in one of mine.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about leblanc?

I picked him up

The one and only AzDuck

by Dude52089 on May 13, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have him in an NL only league

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have had Corriea and Savior all year.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 13, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha

I have Latos, Richard, Garland and Young on my roster right now. I like to ride the hot hands.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on May 13, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had Blanks dropped him

had venable, dropped him last week.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on May 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

loyalty is rewarded

that’s why Black let him pitch today.

by Zen Blade on May 13, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Black let him pitch today

Because he let some stats govern his decisions. Let’s not get preachy about it.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a big math/science guy

but I’ve played enough sports and practiced enough science to know that stats are not everything. :)

by Zen Blade on May 13, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

But, managers today let silly stats like SHO and SV govern their decisions.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the way you think, ZB.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on May 13, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting tidbit...

Don’t know if this has been mentioned anywhere, but in the first sweep of the Giants, the Pads won by scores of 3-2, 1-0, and 5-2… Exact same scores for this sweep, just in a slightly different order.

by zombiecow on May 13, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That's creepy

I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?

by tonoxtono on May 13, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good, the Ghosts did their jobs

Axion, make sure you pack them up and bring them back to Petco…

by Zen Blade on May 13, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB is not. . .

and ESPN is apparently only allowed to show Yankees and Red Sox games.

So, no.

by TheGhostofRickMonday on May 13, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something that

Although scheduling dictates that MLBN shows Thursday games. Fox shows a Saturday afternoon game. TBS shows a Sunday day game. ESPN shows a Sunday Night game. Almost all of those games (except possibly the Thursday ones) are scheduled very early on and usually only get swapped towards the end of the season. Something tells me that a Dodgers-Padres May matchup didn’t seem appealing to these networks back in December (or whenever they picked them in the offseason).

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

So let's ask the real Latos question

Is he the #1 or the #2 in the future to Simon Castro? I know Richard’s going to be a #3 but still……..

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by TheAxManCometh on May 13, 2010 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Latos' ceiling is higher than Castro

I’m not sure that Richard can be a steady #3

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like

Latos and Castro can be that 1-2 punch that other top teams have at the front of their rotation.

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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK in that case

Latos
Castro
Correira (he’s still young)
Richard

Better?

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by TheAxManCometh on May 13, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correia isn't that young.

29 right now, will be 30 in August. Correia is a real #3 though, assuming his numbers last year and this year so far are for real.

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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Correia will be here

By the time Castro is ready to be a #2.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean

You’re basically asking what our 2012 or 2013 rotation will look like.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Latos is almost the opposite of what Savior was

Savior’s hype came before he even reached the majors. We were clamoring for him to save us for months before he came up. Latos got here before anyone knew what hit them.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is, unless you keep tabs on the Padres farm system.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on May 13, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I was taking into account that you do follow the Padres farm system.

If you didn’t follow the Padres farm system then you probably don’t think Latos is a savior at all and probably wonder why anyone has referred to Headley as that for the last 3 seasons.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

ouch...

ugh…

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on May 13, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question

How many GLBers would a Wonko wonk?

If a Wonko would wonk GLBers?

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

who is this "Wonko" anyway?

does he truly exist? Or is this “Wonko” a chance entity that has only come to be out of the collective unconscious of all GLBers?

Perhaps his words arrive a select intervals in which the nearest parallel universe collides with our own, sending his supreme intellect spewing out about our realm like the words of he who is holy!

Perhaps Wonko is a realm unto himself. Gaia, is that you?

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on May 13, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I long theorized

that he was a sentient artificial intelligence.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains."
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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's a bot

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by justdave on May 13, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Latos hasn't walked a batter

since that start against Milwaukee.

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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

It's like he had to hit bottom in Florida

Then there was no way but up. :)

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should be a good weekend of baseball

Garland, Correia?, LeBlanc v , R. Ortiz, C. Kershaw , Billingsley

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 13, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

No ? on Correia

He’ll be there

twitter.com/matthewverygood

by matthewverygood on May 13, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN can't even say Latos name right

I listened to the highlight cringing at hearing them say Lah-tos

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by Dude52089 on May 13, 2010 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

well Yankees lost and Boston didn't play today

So guess shouldn’t be surprised they mentioned the Padres. Slow ESPN day.

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by Padres_Hobo on May 13, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees lost?

Sounds like a headliner to me.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Former Padre Nova pitched for NY too.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on May 13, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can leave that part out.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lead with it

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm curious.

Why is Latos on an inning-limit this year? All we heard last season was “no more than twice the innings”. Since he threw 150 last year, shouldn’t be be fine for 200+ this year?

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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

He has been Verducci listed... we must be careful.

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by MrDanielX on May 13, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is debunked as redundant and not informative

But it doesn’t mean that young pitchers who pitch more aren’t a cause for concern. It just means that you can’t accurately identify the one’s that will regress or get hurt the following year based on age and specific innings increases.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year he was like 85% correct.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 13, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

His results are biased

Any young pitcher that increases their innings total by 25 to 30 IP is likely going to do so because they are pitching well and most likely pitching well means pitching over league average. If you take any set of pitchers that pitch better than league average for a given year and take that same collection the next year you are going to have a high number than will show regression. So, basically, Verducci’s results show a trend, just not the trend he was looking for.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the most recent (obvious) example is:

Cole Hamels

He had his stellar year, won a world series… and then fell off the wagon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=6216

Not saying it is because of the innings, but he fits the profile. Large increases in workload, and then drop off.

by Zen Blade on May 13, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

His component stats stayed the same. His luck and defensive help got worse. Probably a bad example. However, he was a pitcher who was injury prone in the minors and worth protecting to a certain extent because of that.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wasn't in the minors long

But, yes, he had two injuries that sidelined him for extended periods.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pitchers increase their innings for reasons other than just doing well.

Each of the following levels gets progressively longer. Pitchers must adapt to the length of these seasons.
HS
College
Short Season A
Rest of the minors
MLB
 
If you factor in any arm troubles then it makes sense to treat them with care. Latos has gone from 56 innings (2008) to 122 innings (2009). Like you said though…you’ve got to consider other factors as well when determing these things.

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by AIChief on May 13, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Verducci list I am talking about is not the regression...

But the injury one.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=verducci+effect

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by MrDanielX on May 13, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read that carefully

Will Carroll named his “rule of 30” the Verducci Effect, however, Verducci’s list is based off of the “Year After Affect” that uses the vague notion that the pitchers “underperform” in the following year.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will Carroll independently found that pitchers who break the “Rule of 30” tend to get injured.

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by MrDanielX on May 14, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

So get that list instead of the Verducci List.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carroll renamed this ‘rule’ the Verducci Effect in honor of the man who initially found the evidence.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 14, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

X'd.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 14, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

You make it seem

Like you and I didn’t read the same thing.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let me summarize.

Summary:

1) Zach says “Why is he on inning limit when he should be good for 200 innings”

2) I say “Because he is on the Verducci list” Meaning injury warning list.

3) TDK says “That list is crap”

4) You say “yup crap, cause no one knows who will be the injured ones” at the same time I say “Well its 85% correct” meaning lets not risk him getting an injury.

5) There is an Off Topic on Regression. I remind everyone that I am talking injuries.

6) You say "It was initially the “year after list”.

7) I remind you that the "injury is is all that matters and is the NEW Verducci list.

The end.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 14, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

The “Verducci Effect” has to do with injuries.

The “Verducci List”, which is what you initially mentioned talks about players who will underperform. I even saw Verducci say this on MLB Network.

The Verducci List also doesn’t follow the Verducci Effect completely. This year, I believe it does, but he also leaves players off that would otherwise qualify and he adds players on that do not qualify.

Verducci’s List is crap. The Verducci Effect has also been determined to be inconclusive at best. However, they aren’t necessarily the same thing.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's probably also worth noting

That the Verducci List only had that high of injury rate because they count injuries like Chad Gaudin slipping on a curb and hurting his back on the side of the dumpster as part of their count.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any list or effect

That includes our pitchers for a negative outcome that is correct 85% of the time, warrants caution.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 14, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it warranted caution

Until it was disproven like 6 or 7 times by different methods. One of which even implied that pitchers who saw innings increases were more likely to have more innings a year after being part of the Verducci Effect.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The FO hasn't said what his limit is or exactly why

But, if you follow the Verducci Effect, then a 25 to 30 IP increase would put a young pitcher in a position where in the following year they are likely to underperform or get hurt. Under these rules though 150 IP was probably too much to throw last year. And given that the team was going nowhere, they probably should have limited him more since no amount of innings could have made that team do anything more than what it accomplished.

Personally, I would prefer a more holistic approach where you understand a pitchers mechanics, their stress levels, their innings totals, pitch totals, injury history and current levels of fatigue to make decisions about how much they should throw.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's what they're doing?

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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could be

But I thought Hoyer said something about them having a number in mind for how many innings he’ll pitch. However, maybe it’s like the “E” light on the gas tank. They know they can go beyond it, but they know its risky and they know should be paying attention to when they have to get off before they run out of gas.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a smart approach.

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by Zach (maestro876) on May 13, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO

I watch both ESPN and MLBN constantly, and ESPN seems to give much more love to the Padres than MLBN.

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it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 13, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

masochist

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

CBS Sportsline has been the best.

And CNNSI, last I checked, was still only talking about Adrian to Boston.

by zombiecow on May 13, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last night's 10 pm SportsCenter

covered the Padres win by basically showing Giants’ defensive highlights. ESPN is beyond awful.

by TheGhostofRickMonday on May 13, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its essentially a 45 minute program that has to show news on every game on every sport imaginable.

Did you want them to do a 30 minute expose on a 5-2 win from the beginning of May?

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it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 13, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you got it backwards

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

why, kipper, why?

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

remember Dex's story from this morning

when he told the guy not to be excited about baseball in May. I harkened back to this, with my prior reply to ’tec.

That BY eastbay, that BY.

by The Kipper on May 13, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

espn lover.

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on May 13, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just went to MiLB.com

The fourth story on their main page says that Jaff Decker will be making his return to action tonight.

by thepadfather on May 13, 2010 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

sick!

"You got the Hula channel?"

by CurbEnthusiasm on May 13, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

bitter about the call

On the replay, he looks barely safe. That pissant hit breaks up a perfect game? Sorry, I am thinking if SF is tossing the blanks, the call goes the other way. Or NYA. Or BOS. The bottom of the 6th is not that close, but to break up a perfect game on that?

I was at the game. That call denied me seeing our first no hitter and possibly or only perfect game.

Lame…

by jayman66 on May 13, 2010 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

I like how you acknowledge that he was safe… but still think it was a bad call.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on May 13, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was "could go either way" safe

i am saying, go the way of the perfect game when it is that close

not the strongest argument in the world, but if there was a way to run a controlled experiment with bigger name franchises doing the pitches, i feel pretty sure that call goes the other way much more with them

by jayman66 on May 13, 2010 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Is this one of ours at today's game?

If so, I say Great job!

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That was me.....

O.K. fine it wasn’t me.

I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?

by tonoxtono on May 13, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it surprising that they let a fan in with brooms

You cant do that at Petco Park.

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes you can...sort of

You can take a broom head in, then use an inflatable pole for the handle. They just don’t want the long stick brought in.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on May 14, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

yessss

I was hoping for a picture of this dude

by abara on May 13, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

this guy is my new hero

i couldn’t stand Gnat fans when i lived in the bay area

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by icaughthundleys#4 on May 13, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB.com's recap has more comments than any other Padre game this year

it seems the Doyers fans believe they will be in first place by Monday.

by abara on May 13, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

That's unpossible.

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Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 13, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yup

By winning today, the earliest we could possibly move to second place is Monday following our game vs. the Giants. And that’s only if we lose the next 4. Even then, the Dodgers would not regain first place, only the Giants could.

The earliest the Dodgers could have sole possession first place is next Wednesday, but that’s only if the Padres lose their next 6 games, Dodgers win their next 6, the Giants do no better than 4-2 over that stretch and the Rockies do not win their next 7 games.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 13, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ouch...

I just heard the sound of numbers Crunching!

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by podpeople on May 13, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

that, combined with all the lacquer that

seeped through my respirator at work today, may have taken a few days off my life;)

how are ya, eastbay?

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by podpeople on May 13, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why, just fine

Sorry about the lacquer.

Another intense game.
Another Padres win.

How you doin?

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

not to shabby.

I attended the first two games of the series, which were quite AWESOME! I listened to todays game on the radio, and KNEW that that lone hit would be the only hit, and yet another “almost” in padres’ lore.

As the Padres go, so do I!

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on May 13, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, you brought us the first 2 wins

And Double Broom Boy brought us the 3rd!
Sweet!

Me, too! I gotz a reserved seat on Teh Bandwagon.
Never getting off.

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im so stoked

I caught the first two innings on the OT but then had to go back to work, but was watching on gamecast.

I’ve had my signature for a while now and I’ve always believed Mat is the real deal and I think others will start to notice too. He’s only 22 and he’s got all the talent in the world. Props to Mat for bouncing back solid after the hit. That Florida game seems like a long time ago.

Padres are cruising right now and it’s awesome. I’m driving down to SD tomorrow and will be at the game on Saturday, can’t wait. Petco will be rocking for sure.

Let’s sweep the Doyers.

Mat Latos is the real deal...Go Lakers, Pads, and Bolts

by mrbarneydangles on May 13, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

What the Nationals are doing to the Rockies right now is criminal.

It’s like Kobe’s visit to Colorado in 2003 all over again.

"I've got great references. Ask Drama."

by Drama on May 13, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Somebody better call 911

I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?

by tonoxtono on May 13, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Human Centipede

3/10

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by Axion on May 13, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

awe

now that a few hours have passed since this game, i am still in disbelief and what took place today. aside from the near perfect game/no-hitter, what gets me more than anything is that despite only having a one run lead, there was no point during the game where i thought we would be overtaken. the giants never once threatened. beware doyers!

by elw89 on May 13, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

when mat knocked in the first (only) run

I posted “”http://www.gaslampball.com/2010/5/13/1470953/game-thread-5-13-padres-vs-gigantes#37461768" >1 – zip we win"
and shortly thereafter, headed out to a client for the afternoon.

Done with my meeting at 7pm, I checked the score on my phone – and I was not surprised.

"I post like canned meat."

by Hormel on May 13, 2010 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

dammit

"I post like canned meat."

by Hormel on May 13, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys

Heres the important thing.

The very first post of the OT today was Jailbait.

We nearly had a perfect game.

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

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by All Things SD on May 13, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

you wont see it now

I think a mod deleted it

"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume

by All Things SD on May 13, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

huzzah!

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 13, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Our Magic # is 128

"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume

by All Things SD on May 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on May 13, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

can we get a widget with our Magic # posted on the front page now?

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by Ron Mexico on May 14, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Loose lips sink ships"

was the title on my episode of Survivor, jbox, you damn wizard.

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by Axion on May 13, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Panda Down

hahahaha

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by icaughthundleys#4 on May 14, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes it is

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude? Really? It's CAKE!

bwahahahahahhahahhahaha

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 14, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need to make sure this gets on the front page

when we play the Giants again next week.

It’s tres fantastique!

"Savvy Chicks Dig the Bullpen"

by eastbaysd on May 14, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beaver fans?

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't planning on going to tonight's game...

but I just found a really great seat for $50 and I’m strongly considering it. I don’t exactly have $50 to burn… but I could swing it. Hmm…

Also, I learned something new today… you can find really good deals when you’re looking for a single ticket. Don’t judge me.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on May 14, 2010 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Ha! I found that out when I was looking for a ticket for tomorrow.

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by jodes0405 on May 14, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have been to a game alone before and actually had a great time.

It all depends on who you end up sitting near. If you have cool people around you, it doesn’t matter if you’re alone, you’ll have a good time.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on May 14, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

People do tend to keep a watchful eye on people that show up alone to a game.

Makes it harder to get away with masturbating in your seat.

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by Drama on May 14, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Oh man...

Totally just got busted for laughing at my computer at work on that one. Rec’d.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on May 14, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have too.

Went to opening day alone. I had a good time.

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on May 14, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN.com has yet another front page article about the Padres today.

Not defending them, but we’re getting our just deserts.

Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 14, 2010 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

ESPN Insiders only.

I’m not shelling out cash to hear what Buster Olney thinks about the Padres.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on May 14, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll save you the "pennies a day"

He’s a believer.

Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 14, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Having read the article, you’d be shelling out money to not hear what he thinks. I don’t think he had a single opinion in there. Just stats and quotes.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 14, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW here's another kudos to ESPN

As I’ve mentioned on here before, I cancelled my cable because I can get basically everything I need through the internet or over the air these days. One of the big reasons for this was ESPN 3 (formerly ESPN 360) which is a premium service offered to Cox internet subscribers.

Well, I rushed home to watch the Celts-Cavs game on ESPN3 last night, only to find the feed not f***ing working. I actually called ESPN customer service and they informed me that it was a nationwide problem and that “they’re working on it.” Long story short, the game feed is fixed with about 2:30 left in the 4th quarter and the Celtics up by like 12 points. I’d rather watch an artist’s interpretation of the game.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on May 14, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well that's what you get for watching the NBA anyway.

Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on May 14, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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