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The problem of too many pitchers

Isn't it obvious? If you carry 23 pitchers on your 40-man roster, you're gonna have problems when you need to replace an infielder, or any position player for that matter. Let me spell it out: The Padres have no infielders on their 40-man roster whom they can call up to replace Everth Cabrera, should they choose to put him on the DL with a bitchy hamstring.

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Matt Antonelli is the only infielder on the 40-man who is not on the major-league roster. And since he 1) sucks and 2) is injured again, he would be useless. The options would be trading for a washout like Chris Burke or Joseph Wilson, like the Padres did last year, or placing Sean Kazmar (.393 OBP in 52 ABs for Portland heading into's Thursday's game) on the 40-man and calling him up.

I'm not quite sure of the rules here. Either the Padres would have to immediately clear a spot on the 40-man for a replacement player or do so once they would re-activate Cabrera. But this is speculation. So far, Everth has not been placed on the DL.

 

Considering his performance so far this year, however, the DL might not be a bad option for him. Last year after a stint on the DL and on minor-league rehab, Cabrera came back like a storm. This year he hasn't shown that thunder.

The Padres would face the same problem should they choose to do something about their weak-hitting outfielders. Although Tony Gwynn has been hot lately -- and drawing a lot of walks, which is a really good sign -- Kyle Blanks continues through a horrible struggle. Among the rest of the outfielders, only Will Venable has been productive, with 14 runs and 11 RBIs, though his OBP (.295) remains pathetic. Oscar Salazar, Matt Stairs, Jerry Hairston and Scott Hairston simply are not hitting.

But the Padres' hands are tied. The two Portland outfielders who have most earned a call-up this year -- Mike Baxter and Chris Denorfia -- are not on the 40-man roster.

So the question is this: Who are the Padres willing to let go? Sean Gallagher might be the only option. He's with the major league club, though he seems to be the forgotten (or is it untrusted?) man. But what if the Padres need to make two moves?

 

A couple other points:

I'm really looking forward to this homestand. Like I mentioned, Gwynn is on a hot streak. At the end of last year, he was the only man on the roster with a better batting average at Petco than on the road. I hope he's on the verge of proving my earlier posts and thread comments about him dead wrong.

I'm guessing Kyle Blanks has these next seven games to find his stroke or be demoted, either to the bench or Portland. I understand players go through slumps, but Blanks just looks totally lost at the plate these days.

I really think the DL would be the best option for Cabrera, even if his injury is less than nagging. Let him study the game for a couple weeks like he did last year, then spend a week or two feasting on minor league pitching to bring his confidence back up.

This FanPost was written by a member of the Gaslamp Ball community and does not necessarily reflect the views of the Gaslamp Ball managers or SB Nation.

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1. The Padres would have to remove someone from the 40 man roster to add anyone to it at this point. That would require one of a couple of actions. They could place someone on the 60day DL, Outright a player, Designate for Assignment a player, or make a trade where the return of the deal is a player(s) that do not have to be added to the 40 man roster.
2. On the 25 man roster, simply placing E-cab on the 15day DL will do the trick.
3. 20 games doesn’t make a season, Gywnn and Scottie might not be ripping the cover off the ball, but their defense is more then making up for it. Our outfield is fine, we have to accepting growing pains from Blanks/Venable to allow the organization to evaluate them properly. Young talent has to be given time to adjust and we have a squad full of young players, play is going to be up and down.
4. Pitching is always in demand, and it never hurts to have extreme depth there. If a deal comes along that allows the Padres to get a solid return on one of their arms they may make a move, but at this point its not worth it. Remember before and during spring training most “fans” wanted the Padres to move Stauffer, I think thus far we are glad the team choose not too. Gallagher has struggled thus far, but the talent is there, and at this point we can not just give talent away without getting some more in return (selling low is never a smart move).
5. Baxter and Denorfia have both been solid at AAA, but they are not the guys that are going to get the call this year, Cummingham and Durango will, given their place on the 40 man.
6. Lastly, give it a rest and wait and see. Enjoy the winning, and the fact this team as currently constructed has done what all of us fans want to see, win. They have shown good team work and great chemistry. Lets not **** it up just for our pleasure of being arm chair GM’s.

by AirmanSD on Apr 29, 2010 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

who the Fcuk is Mike Baxter?

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Apr 29, 2010 7:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm glad I'm not the only one

who enjoys that that much.

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by TheThinGwynn on Apr 29, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Matt Antonelli...And since he 1) sucks"

Stopped reading there

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on Apr 29, 2010 10:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yep.

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on Apr 29, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one speaks ill of ANTON!

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Apr 29, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

'Tec stopped reading there too,

but for an entirely different reason…

"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers

by jodes0405 on Apr 29, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ew

What's a signature?

by Ketchup on Apr 29, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

OOOOOOO

California, what have you done to me?

by CurbEnthusiasm on Apr 30, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps I was too harsh.

I should have referred to him as a very good double-A second baseman who just couldn’t make the jump to triple-A.

by dontkickthebaby on Apr 30, 2010 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Knowing what they do about Antonelli's injury...

And that he could be out 10-12 weeks, they will probably put him on the 60 day DL which clears a 40 man roster spot, and add Lance Zawadzki to the 40 man.

"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox

by MrDanielX on Apr 29, 2010 11:06 PM PDT reply actions  

And that's exactly what they have done.

And that has allowed them to delay their roster decision. So, if Antonelli is actually well enough to come off the DL in two months, the Padres will then have to decide if they prefer to keep a minor league washout second baseman or one of their many pitchers.

by dontkickthebaby on Apr 30, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Somewhat off topic here, but...

Does anyone know why they’ve got Poreda pitching in a relief role in Portland?

by theodore donald kerabatsos on Apr 30, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Probably because he lost all semblance of control.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 30, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

true

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Apr 30, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most scouts

Thought his best role would as a reliever. I’m thinking the new Hoyer/McLeod regime agreed with this and also thought that we had a decent amount of starting pitching, but not enough elite LH relief pitching.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on Apr 30, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

The fact that we have a bunch of good starting pitchers makes it easier to swallow… but it’s still pretty disappointing how this guy went from potential ace to “let’s see if he can handle a relief role” in the span of less than a year.

by theodore donald kerabatsos on Apr 30, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

The crowd that saw him as "potential ace"

Was not a very big crowd to begin with.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Apr 30, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

i need an overview

of how all the rosters work in baseball (25 man, 40 man), where is the best place to get it?

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 30, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

from Wonko

www.FriarsOnCardboard.blogspot.com
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by TheThinGwynn on Apr 30, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

he always makes me think that he thinks I’m an idiot…

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 30, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

but he thinks everyone is an idiot

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Apr 30, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read my sig

I don’t think you’re an idiot.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Apr 30, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB.com has all of the info, if you search for it.

But surprisingly Wikipedia is actually correct with its section on how the 25 man and 40 man rosters work. Options are a little harder, but most beat writers have summed it up (unless of course you want to read the CBA)

by AirmanSD on Apr 30, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

This may not be exactly what you're looking for

But, here’s a breakdown of the common roster transactions

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on Apr 30, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically, what you need to know is

Players on the 25 man roster are the only ones eligible to play in major league games.
Players on the 40 man roster are the only ones eligible to fill an opening on the 25 man roster.
Players on the 15 day DL are temporarily removed from the 25 man roster, but remain on the 40 man roster.
Players on the 60 day DL are temporarily removed from the 25 and 40 man roster.
Follow the link for any more details than that (like waivers, designated for assignment, option years, rule 5 draft, etc).

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Apr 30, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

See?

www.FriarsOnCardboard.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThinGwynn on Apr 30, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitcher

I like having “too many” pitchers on the 40-man … replacement level hitters are dime-a-dozen … pitchers have longer “development time” and greater “development standard deviation” (I just made that up, trying to imply that even pitchers like Liz can still develope into a pitcher that can help the Padres in the future) … but I’m confident that by the time Antonelli is ready to come off the 60-day DL, one of those pitchers will be able to be slip’d thru waivers (or else we won’t care if he gets claimed). On other other hand, perhaps CY just goes on the 60-day DL by then …

Base on his performance in spring training, I think Antonelli is worth giving one more shot … I hope this hand injury didn’t blow that out of the water. He is a long-shot … but he seems like a premium athlete that’s worth making giving some extra development time/opportunity to …

by LynchMob on May 3, 2010 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

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