Around the Mission: 4/19 Padres Links
by jbox on Apr 19, 2010 8:41 AM PDT
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Print- If Padres can’t treat Adrian Gonzalez right, they can’t treat their fans right - Page 3 - Los Angeles Times
"If it ever came down to signing a long-term deal, I would have to see if the organization was in the frame of mind to put us in a position to win the World Series year in and year out. "Money, stats, all that other stuff, it's not as important as winning." -
Salazar: Same old Padres story
"I don't blame myself for losing interest. I blame the direction the franchise has taken in the waning years of the Moores era and the transition to the Moorad team." -
No-hit history now eluding only trio of teams | MLB.com: News
The San Diego Padres, born in 1969, are in their 42nd season of waiting. -
Hairston a natural at shortstop | MLB.com: News
When the Padres signed Jerry Hairston Jr., the acquisition was essentially hailed as a boon because of his versatility and ability to play just about everywhere. -
Headley comes up big again vs. D-backs | padres.com: News
Chase Headley's two-run double in the seventh inning Sunday highlighted a five-run inning as the Padres rallied for a 5-3 victory over the D-backs before a crowd of 20,634 at PETCO Park.
Young moves toward bullpen session | padres.com: News
Padres starting pitcher Chris Young, on the disabled list with a strained right shoulder, will likely throw his first bullpen session sometime next week, manager Bud Black said Sunday.
Reliever Russell will be back | padres.com: News
On the day the Padres made a roster move to accommodate getting Wade LeBlanc a start against Arizona on Sunday, they optioned reliever Adam Russell to Triple-A Portland, which is where he began the season.
Difficult start for top picks Tate, Williams - SignOnSanDiego.com
"Since the day he signed, Donavan has missed so much time," said Padres Director of Player Development Randy Smith. "We just want to make sure his feet are on the ground."
Padres roll back Arizona in one furious inning - SignOnSanDiego.com
"I just kept running, trying to get as far as I could," said Headley of the three-run play that made it 5-2. "You put pressure on other teams and sometimes they make mistakes. As a defense, you understand when teams do that to you, it makes you uncomfortable, puts the pressure on you."
PADRES: Bullpen gets job done against Diamondbacks
"It's just a carryover from last year," LeBlanc said of the bullpen. "We know that if we can get it to the sixth inning, we can win."
PADRES NOTES: Adjustment pays off for Adams
"I immediately saw what I was doing wrong," said Adams, who said he wasn't throwing over the top as much as he normally does. "It was big for me. I made the quick adjustments and it has helped tremendously so far."
Change Is Good, and So Is Winning – Ducksnorts
"I know it’s early, but the Padres need to improve their approach at the plate with the bases loaded"
The Official Blog of Matt Antonelli: WHY YOU GOING TO THE AIRPORT? FLYING SOMEWHERE?
"I have a meeting with our hand specialist today in San Diego at 11 AM and will be receiving another MRI on my hand at 12:30."
Miscellaneous Early Season Padres Thoughts :: Friar Forecast
"I still think 75-80 wins is a realistic expectation for this team."
Perpetual Padres Saga: Padres Progress
"Chris Young is on the DL... again. This is getting old and I am sick of this process repeating over and over again."
Padres Trail: Five Hundred
"It is comforting, though, to know they have the ability to come back late if they need to."
The injured Padres' righty joins Hacksaw to talk about the progress of his rehabilitation.
One of the newest Padres joins Hacksaw to talk about the start of the 2010 season.
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I'm really tired
of non-local sports writers bemoaning how cheap and horrible the Padres ownership is if they don’t re-sign Adrian. Heck, I’m tired of local sports writers doing it too. You guys want to fork over the $20m/year it will take? Please, by all means. Until then, stfu.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions
Sounds to me
like you don’t think anyone should be allowed to write or say anything negative about the Padres.
Can’t go along with that!
They can say whatever I want.
Doesn’t mean I can’t say that I think they’re stupid.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
*whatever THEY want.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Which one is it?
“you guys want to fork over the $20m/year it will take?……Until then, stfu”
OR
“They can say whatever I want they want.”
I don't really mean they have to shut up and not say anything.
I reacted emotionally to an opinion I perceived as stupid.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be nice
if the complaints had some sort of grasp on the reality of the situation.
http://thesacrificebunt.com/
by R. Lankford on Apr 19, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
That's kind of what I was trying to get at.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Its not about Criticism
Its about talking about things writers don’t know a damn thing about. We have been in competition for the the division title for 3/5 years and won it twice. We resigned Peavy to a contract predicated on the fact that we would go deep into the playoffs, but we failed.
If the Padres are winning, the FO will resign Adrian, because winning puts asses in the seats and will allow them to afford a good contract.
If the FO is smart, we will keep Adrian for the length of the contract, the allow him to enter FA and try to compete with FA… if he goes for 20 million a year… only like 4 teams will be able to afford him, and we will get a Type A compensation + a sandwich pick… I think.
Let the new scouts use there wits and draft us a college player that will impact the team in 2 years.
If we compete while we have Gonzo I think we could afford hit at like 15 million a year if we have a payroll of 70-80 million.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Gonzo's Agent stated
they are looking in the 20-25Million a year range for 6 years.
If this is accurate, and not just a chess match, then the Padres SHOULD trade Agon.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
hopefully
15-18 a year for 5 years..I say sign him. If he really wants a Mark Tx. deal, then he can go.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Plus
What teams can realistically afford 20-25 mill a year? Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Angles? Maybe? I think Tex just got lucky… I don’t think the current market will support that again, nor are the big teams looking for 1B.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Agents lie
Often.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Vic Salazar
You reek of fair-weather fan. Get out of my Friar Faithful.
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Patriots Day.
They do it every year. It’s always the same day as the Boston Marathon and is supposed to start right around when the marathon ends.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Apr 19, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Not going well for the Chowder Heads either.
I’m so sad.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Aw a bunch of post-marathon runners?
I bet that place smells awful.
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by Mad_Villain on Apr 19, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
those first two links
can’t believe those guys can get published. No wonder the LA Times is in its last year of existence..
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Awkward?
Does Adrian like his boss? Does Moorad know he has to get rid of Adrian this year? Is this relationship strained? Was this photo awkward for both? Do they fake smile at each other when they pass in the clubhouse?
by The Kipper on Apr 19, 2010 9:32 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That's Ecstatic Adrian and Wide-Awake Moorad.
Looks normal to me.
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Area taxpayers who paid for Petco Park are stuck with a last-place team with little prospect for improvement soon.
What qualifies us as a last-place team? We didn’t finish in last last season. We aren’t in last place now. We haven’t been a “last place team” since 2008. WTF is this guy’s problem?
Also… “little prospect for improvement soon”? I don’t think there’s anyone who knows anything about baseball who wouldn’t agree that we’re on the upswing. We’ve got a roster full of young promising plays.
Eff that guy.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Apr 19, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions
we are last place
if you consider Payroll. See if you spend as much as the Astros, D-Backs, Mets, White-Sox last year and you suck it is bad luck. But at least you give it a try…and fans still show up even though you suck. Just look at their attendance records..
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
The Mets, White Sox and (to a lesser extent) Astros
are in mega-urban centers with huge fan-bases, so they have a lot more resources to draw on to pay the bills and fill seats.
As for the D-Backs, I’m nos sure what sort of financial situation their ownership is in. They were in the middle of the pack on Opening Day 2009 with about $70m in payroll. They’re also the only baseball team in the state; they don’t have to compete with big market teams like the Angels and Dodgers for fans.
I’m not sure if I have a point. I think I’m just trying to point out the Padres are in a different situation than the teams you mentioned.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
you missed it
Those places spent a lot of money and lose, and the fans don’t show up just because of high payroll.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
The White Sox won the WS in 2005
This past decade, they have had 4 seasons where they won 90 games or more.
They won 80 or more games in 8 of the last 10.
I am not sure of your definition of losing.
White Sox
is that they have consistently spent, but the fans only show up when they have good seasons. Attendance is proportional to the W’s and the $. Same with the Astros.
I would say the same about the Mets, but they don’t win.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Mets are regularly
Pwned by the Phils. Its just the laws of nature.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Pirates are last place in payroll.
And that statement doesn’t seem to be referring to payroll… it seems to be referring to performance.
And it you take payroll into account… wouldn’t we be considered one of the most efficient teams in the majors? We probably have the best wins/payroll ratio in the league.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Apr 19, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I think they do.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
in fact i was listening to espn radio
and over the last few years we were like the third most efficient team with regards to wins vs payroll, behind the Twins and somebody else… maybe the rockies or angels i dont remember.
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the lowest payroll teams
almost always have the best wins/payroll ratio.
Even a team with every player making the major league minimum will probably win 50 games. It cost a lot, lot more to win those next 50 games.
This is the sentiment I was trying to communicate.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
the majority of sportswriters that i read
discount the Padres because we don’t have anybody that they’ve heard of. like if you don’t sign washups like the Mets do you have no chance.
keep in mind we had a better record than the Mets last year, when we were supposedly awful, and i have money on the table that says we will again this year.
ya know, if gambling were legal.
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I don't know how much this has been mentioned in San Diego,
but there is a backlash developing against teams such as the Royals, Padres, Pirates etc.
Padres spend the smallest percentage of their revenues on payroll.
Pirates, Royals, Padres have dreadful drafting track records for the last decade, yet they ignore this and blame the larger markets.
They have received millions of dollars from the luxury tax that they have not put back into the team. The KC owner has pocketed all luxury tax and revenue sharing money.
I never heard much about this before, and I don’t know if the UT has covered it. I won’t say it has become a big issue, but it is something that I have heard or read numerous times this season.
I think there is going to be a lot of this kind of talk this year. The teams that claim they can’t compete financially are coming under much more scrutiny.
“It’s not true as it relates to the Padres and frankly if anybody challenges it that it will be very simple to defend because the facts speak for themselves.”
Well of course he is going to say that.
That doesn’t mean it is true.
He is not going to go on a talk radio show and say that he is using the luxury tax and revenue sharing for other things.
They get about $13m in revenue sharing
That’s hardly enough to pocket and use for other things. via here
So I’d say the facts do speak for themselves in what limited opportunity there has been.
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I am playing devils advocate here
but I think their response would be that the Padres cut their payroll in half,
while they gave them $13 million dollars.
I'd like to know exactly how much the Padres got from the luxury tax.
And just because they got $13m in revenue sharing doesn’t mean they can turn around and spend that on player payroll. Again, the Padres have lots of other expenses.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Every team has lots of other expenses.
You think they are the only franchise with stadium debt?
As for wanting to know how much the Padres get from luxury tax and revenue sharing,….I don’t think Moorad is ever going to reveal that.
The Yankees might reveal it, but Moorad won’t.
Point is
you can’t say “they got $13m in revenue sharing, how dare they lower payroll!” when you don’t know what all their expenses are.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Just look at the fact
that ownership is signing top draft picks and paying out. There’s $13m-worth of team investment for you that otherwise wasn’t there.
For the Padres to be in the discussion with the Pirates and Royals ownerships, Peavy would never have been signed long-term and Adrian would already be gone.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
It's too early to blame the new ownership group for pocketing the luxury tax and revenue sharing money.
Last time I checked they just recently purchased their controlling interest of the team.
Give Hoyer and Morrad some time, last years draft was probably the best draft in decades and they signed all of their top picks which is something that killed this organization during the Moores era.
If the Padres still have a payroll of $40 mil in two or three years and they have traded away their best young players coming up for arbitration then we can complain but let them screw us first before we jump to conclusions.
No one is jumping to conclusions.
I am just telling you that a backlash has developed somewhat and teams with small payrolls are facing much more scrutiny.
Don’t shoot the messenger!
Well obviously you are
giving them the benefit of the doubt more than others will.
It is sort of a twisted logic to say we have to believe whatever Moorad says because he won’t tell us the whole story.
Some might be inclined to be very suspicious of that.
Not saying we have to believe whatever Moorad says.
But you shouldn’t go crying foul over stuff when we don’t know exactly what the situation is. What we DO know is that Padre income has plummeted, revenue-sharing and luxury tax notwithstanding.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Lets get something straight
I made it clear that I was just repeating things I have heard and read. I even said I was playing devils advocate and speculating how other teams would respond.
So don’t accuse me of “crying foul”.
Is that clear????
Other teams wouldn't respond that way
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You got me on that one.
Maybe Marge Schott would have.
Oh, and we shouldn't believe whatever the Yankees say either.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
And when others
see that they’ve signed top draft picks instead of cheaping out and haven’t offloaded talent as quickly as it springs up, what Moorad says is congruent with reality.
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I never said
“how dare they lower payroll”
You are making things up!
Of course the Padres aren't the only team with stadium debt
but other teams, like the ones you mentioned, are in a much better place to deal with it. They have more resources to being with, plus much bigger fanbases who still come to games.
You’ll notice that before 2008, the Padres were winning, drawing ~3million in attendance, and were able to afford a payroll of around $70 million.
Then the team turned to crap, attendance plummeted, and Moores got divorced. Income dropped substantially, so they had to cut expenses to deal with it. That’s the way it goes. Give it a few years for them to build the team back up, and attendance and increased payroll will come with it.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
no luxury tax
Yankees don’t pay the luxury tax anymore because the “finance” their stadium. Even though the tax payers are paying for the Yankees hotel.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Yeah, they are able to deduct
their payments for the stadium.
But they still payed a lot during the last decade to teams that have been cutting their payroll.
Personally I've never heard the Padres ownership (current, at least) blame big market teams
for why they can’t compete.
As for spending the smallest percentage on payroll, I think it’s important to remember that teams have expenses that go beyond just player personnel. For example, I know the Padres spend a ton of their income to service the debt owed on PETCO.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it was the Brewers who made the comment
and Randy Levine of the Yankees FO responded by asking them what did they do with the 18 million they gave them.
The Padres are in a rebuilding phase, which automatically results in lower payroll.
Would there be less backlash if they spent $20M on free agent bench players, or benched their young players in favor of aging expensive veterans. They tried the aging expensive veteran route in 2004-2008 and everyone hated it.
I agree with that 100%
A rebuilding phase with lots of young players will naturally create a lower payroll
The backlash is against spending too much money on outside veterans
Most fans want to see the money committed to players they feel they developed themselves….
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by Mad_Villain on Apr 19, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Personally
I think fans wouldn’t care who the money was spent on so long as they played well and the Padres won games.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Well yeah, winning cures all.
But this year, I would’ve rather seen them commit 20m/yr to Adrian before they game 5m/yr to say, Jermain Dye.
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by Mad_Villain on Apr 19, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
gave*
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by Mad_Villain on Apr 19, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
That being said:
Are they happy with the fact that the Padres have spent $20M on signing bonuses in the last two years, or do they even know?
Personally, I'm excited for it.
I enjoy the idea of prospects and building for the future. However, most people aren’t going to PETCO today because in 3 years Tate might be playing center.
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by Mad_Villain on Apr 19, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Vic Salazar
Obviously doesn’t know what being a baseball fan is all about, and has not heard Moorad’s comments on payroll. The FO believes in these players and will increase payroll to afford their arbitration years, and when appropriate, sign them to FA multiyear contracts.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
or being a Padre fan for that matter
Only showing up when there’s a prospect of contending before the season starts? How many years has that allowed him to be a Padre fan? Five?
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Its ridiculous
The Padres have only sucked in 08… Last year they showed promise and were not last… 05, 06, 07… we were competing for the Division title. How the crap to people get off saying that we are a shitty franchise?
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Competing for the Division title
and won it twice!
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Lets see...
84, 89, 96, 98, 05, 06, 07…. 7 years.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
People forget that
In 1989 we won 89 games and were only 3 back from the Giants. Could have been the Padres in the World Series quake. lol.
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Is this the same Vic Salazar that was an anchor on NBC for so many years?
Doesn’t have anything to do with anything, just curious.
I always knew that guy was shifty
California, what have you done to me?
by CurbEnthusiasm on Apr 19, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
San Diego's uniqueness goes far beyond the size of its metro area.
You have to consider to the North are all the smelly dodger fans, to the East is desert/mountains, to the South is Mexico and its love of soccer, and to the West is Sea World. We’re isolated here while most other teams are pulling fans in from all the little bumfuck towns that surround them. Add in the fact that the Military is the largest single employer in SD and that a lot of people raised in SD leave to go to school or find jobs so then can eventually afford to live in SD.
by Natrone Bomb on Apr 19, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I noticed he skipped the fire sale years
in his opening paragraph.
Salazar is right on TGJr.
though TGJr. could hit a buck twenty five and the fans of SD would still vote him as their favorite Padre…..
just yesterday it was announced at Friarhood
a popular local Padres blog, that Tony Gwynn Jr. was, based on a vote the most popular Padre. Lat year, during the little league WS, almost 1/2 of the kids on the local team that went to Williamsport, said that Tony Gwynn Jr. was thier favorite Padre
define "popular"
The current poll on the front page of that site has 110 votes in just under two weeks.
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I believe that because his last name is Gwynn
that, in general, he has the affection of baseball fans in SD.
I'm not discounting that
just your original source. He’s definitely one of the most popular players, and since he’s done nothing so far, it has to be in name alone.
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And he could hit .290
And still have a target on his back.
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by R. Lankford on Apr 19, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
target on his back w/.290 ?
heck, if he hit .290 over a full season, Tony Gwynn Jr. would soon be Mayor of San Diego
In his defense
he played excellent defense in 2009.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Apr 19, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I have more confidence with
Kevin Correia at bat than I do with TGJr
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by Mad_Villain on Apr 19, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Has everyone forgotten The Plan?
I feel safe with The Plan.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
The Plan is good
The plan will save us all.
"And now for something completely different"
by Boilermaker19 on Apr 19, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
If: Plan = Save us all
and Savior = Saves
Then Savior = The Plan!
"This team looks dangerous, like a convict with a temper, nothing to lose and a switch blade." -jbox
Let's wait til the McCord divorce trial
and the Dodgers are forced to cut payroll – and see what that asshole writer has to say then.
I think we have seen this same article written 10 other sportswriters assholes in 10 MLB cities, who would like to have AG on their team.
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by Hormel on Apr 19, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What's the record
for most posts on an “Around the Mission”?
I saw the number of posts on here, and my first thought was “somebody’s pissed!”.
"And now for something completely different"
same
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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On lunch break and don't have time to read the article now
But it sounds like the Dodgers writer is being arrogant and has the “SD is LA’s little brother” attitude. Well, I’m pretty sure the Padres have the same record as the Dodgers this year and I’m pretty sure we’ve been to the World Series more recently then them. I think Dodger fans forget that their heyday was a long time ago and except for losing in the NLCS the past two years, they have done jack in a couple of decades.
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by mrbarneydangles on Apr 19, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions
Actually
We play the Giants starting today. I’m pretty sure the Dodger fans are rooting for us for the next 3 days.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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Fast and loose with the facts
We are the 11th smallest metro area – larger than STL,Brewers, Rocks…
Metro Area Population
Yanks 19,006,798
Mets 19,006,798
Angels 12,872,808
Blue 12,872,808
Cubs 9,569,624
Sox 9,569,624
Texas 6,300,006
Phills 5,838,471
Marlins 5,414,772
Braves 5,376,285
Nats 5,358,130
Astros 5,728,143
Red Sox 4,522,858
Tigers 4,425,110
Snakes 4,281,899
Giants 4,274,531
A’s 4,274,531
Seattle 3,344,813
Twins 3,229,878
Padres 3,001,072
Cards 2,816,710
Rays 2,733,761
O’s 2,667,117
Rockies 2,506,626
Jays 2,503,281
Pirates 2,351,192
Reds 2,155,137
Indians 2,088,291
Royals 2,002,047
Brewers 1,549,308
Padres are also 5th in Operating Income.
Forbes article about the Pads and full article here. The revenue will jump with the new TV contract in 2012 and if the team wins a few games. The Padres could sign a 20 mil player if they want to – but is that a good business baseball decision?
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There should be disclosure
That even the best analysts outside the Padres organization consider that Forbes data to be questionable at best. Take it with a grain of salt.
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Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
plus
the way they count TV revenue is suspect. Like the Yankees don’t make much off the YES network, as its own by a different company. But the Padres, while only making about $700K in profit for the TV deal, is responsible for a good portion of the production costs.
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Hey RM
you need to create your wiki profile
http://glbwiki.creanium.net/index.php?title=Ron_Mexico&action=edit&redlink=1
"I post like canned meat."
its not about metro area
its about television market
by kevintheoman on Apr 19, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it's about TMA or DMA, however
as said above – it is more about how you set up the deal. The Padres could have set up their own network if they are responsible for the production costs and gotten all the revenue. Plus, since they are only on Cox – that cuts the market in half (my guess) without local satellite revenue and other new media revenues. It also has to do with demographics, avg income, corporate sponsorship (huge for STL) and such. When you figure that all in, San Diego should be in the top 50% for team income.
"I post like canned meat."
by Hormel on Apr 19, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where's Creanium?
He needs to check out the newest member on the GLB wiki…
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Apr 19, 2010 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
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