Nate Colbert: On a scale from Zero to Tony Gwynn
by Dex on Feb 8, 2010 12:49 PM PST
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The Zero to Tony Gwynn scale is a rating of a Padres' importance to the San Diego Padres and their fans. The scale works to determine the relative importance of a particular Padre based on the assumption that Tony Gwynn is the perfect representation of the San Diego Padres.
I am, admittedly, weirded out by the responses in our Zero to Tony Gwynn series so far. I mean... it's a scale that goes 0 through Tony Gwynn and increments by one each time until you get to Tony Gwynn. So you can't say that Ted Leitner rates a Tony Gwynn on a scale of Zero to Tony Gwynn unless you think that Leitner is in fact as important or more important than Tony Gwynn to the Padres.
And let's be honest, if we didn't have Ted Leitner as the announcer, how much worse could we possibly do? Even if we don't replace him, that just means we probably get more Jerry Coleman, which is a good thing, right?
Anyways... I want to see what everyone thinks about Nate Colbert. Remember Nate Colbert? If you weren't around when he played, do you know who Nate Colbert is? I'm not going to sell this a lot, but let's just say that Rob Neyer considered Nate Colbert one of the Padres' top two first basemen in team history as recently as 2006 (pre-Adrian Gonzalez), but nobody ever talks about him.
So Nate Colbert, arguably the first Padres star. RANK HIM!
[Note by Dex, 02/08/10 3:59 PM EST ] I should say that there are no wrong answers here (as much as I criticize people who really really like Ted Leitner). If you honestly have no idea who Nate Colbert is, then feel free to rate him lower. It's your thing. Do what you want to do. I can't tell you who to sock it to.
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Most HRs in Padres history.
Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 8, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions
I like to think
he laid the groundwork for the future Mr. Padre.
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5
6 impactful years with the Padres. One of the few early Padres with name recognition, and is solely associated with the Padres.
That being said, I’m not sure how different the Padres franchise would be without him…
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 8, 2010 1:17 PM PST reply actions
UNTIL WE'RE DONE!!!
I can’t wait for Melvin Nieves
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 8, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Give it the zero!
Nobody’s going to post your response for the world to see.
by Dex on Feb 8, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
sdpad01 might
Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 8, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Bashing at The Murph
Colbert hit five homers during a double-header at The Murph, one of the most exciting days in Padres history. The ’84 Padres record has radio clips of the feat.
actually it was in Atlanta
and let’s not forget a picture of the man. Has anyone ever looked as snazzy as Colbert in the Padres’ uniform?
More info on Colbert’s record, which tied Stan Musial, can be found here:
http://www.seth.com/coll_histbseballs_18.html
wasn’t that before they installed the inner wall, too?
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The fences at Atlanta Fulton
were moved in from 1969 through 1973
http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/Atlanta-FultonCountyStadium.html
during a double-header at The Murph
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The famous Colbert double header
took place in Atlanta
http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1972/B08011ATL1972.htm
thanks
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Since I have nothing to say about Nate Colbert...
Shouldn’t the scale really have been from Matt Bush to Tony Gwynn? I mean, I can’t imagine any player capturing Pads fans hearts or meaning more to the organization than Tony Gwynn, so I accept him being a “10”. In the sense, I can’t imagine any player accumulating any more ill will from Pads fans than Matt Bush.
Honestly what would a guy have to do to rate lower on this scale than Bush? Burn a Tony Gwynn effigy in the outfield? Jump into the stands and start killing fans? It’s gotta be something pretty bad, right?
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Feb 8, 2010 4:56 PM PST reply actions
What about leaving San Diego because you want to be closer to home (in Georgia), only to accept the large payday up the freeway in L.A.?
Never forgive, never forget: Kevin Brown
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Yeah yeah, before that, he was great. But goddamnit… to LA?!
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Their offer was ridiculous. RIDICULOUS.
Remember all the extras they threw into it? He got like free use of the teams private plane…hotel suites on the road…all kinds of stuff. He would have been out of his mind to turn that down.
The best part was that they were really just bidding against themselves. No one was even in the ballpark of what they were putting on the table. Stupid Dodgers.
If he was pulling a Darren Dreifort
I’d be okay with it…..but he was still good for a few years afterward.
But goddamnit, Drama
TO LA????
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I checked his stats in hopes that maybe
he went to LA, took the money, and sabotaged the team… but, nope…he was still pretty damn good.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
Brownie
never pretended he wasn’t an ahole. I loved/hated that about him.
Thank you for waving at me.
by Winfield's Ghost on Feb 9, 2010 6:31 AM PST up reply actions
Never.
He was around for only one season, but it will be very difficult for him to drop out of my Top 5 favorite Padres of all-time. I just loved the guy. He had nasty stuff and brought an intensity that you could just feel running through the team every single time he took the mound.
He was an absolute total prick and had no problem taking a bat and destroying every light fixture in the clubhouse tunnel, toilets and whatever else just happened to be near him.
He was so much fun to watch.
I have one rule
Ok, fine, many rules. But the biggest rule is NEVER GO TO LA!
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I’m sorry, who?
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The Padres ...
have lost two players because they signed the biggest deals in baseball at the time — Winfield to the Yankees and Brown to the Dodgers.
5
That’s one for each of his solid or better seasons with the team.
He was the Padres best player during their first six seasons (1969-74).
He had two All-Star level seasons, and one of those was near-MVP level (1972).
In his sixth season, he hit 207/319/364.
But the Padres never had a winning record during his tenure, and someone had to be their best player.
Among Padres first baseman, Klesko is better, and Adrian has probably passed him, too.
Below the players I mentioned.
Still a hell of a player.
The problem with this analysis
is that Colbert was the ONLY guy on those teams who could hit. Pitchers had to prepare for one guy when they faced the Padres. It’s really tough to explain how bad those teams were. Expansion then was far different than it is now. So, in my mind, when you factor in that he was the only guy that opposing teams had to think about, his numbers are really, really good. Someone obviously had to be their best player, but he was very good.
Thank you for waving at me.
by Winfield's Ghost on Feb 9, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
My first real knowledge of Colbert came from
reading Winfield’s autobiography when I was about ten. The one thing that stands out to me most was that he absolutely looooved Cutty Sark.
www.FriarsOnCardboard.blogspot.com
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