Jerry Coleman: On a scale from Zero to Tony Gwynn
by jbox on Feb 5, 2010 9:48 AM PST
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The Zero to Tony Gwynn scale is a rating of a Padres' importance to the San Diego Padres and their fans. The scale works to determine the relative importance of a particular Padre based on the assumption that Tony Gwynn is the perfect representation of the San Diego Padres.
Tony the Gwynn himself called Coleman the first real Padres Hall of Famer.
"I always told him he should be the first real Padre to go in. . . . As my career was coming to an end, he used to tell me I had a Hall of Fame career. I said, 'You should be a Hall of Famer before me.' "
Coleman while never playing for the Padres did manage for a year and has been the voice of the Padres for 38 years. He's the first Padres Broadcaster to be awarded the Ford C. Fricke award and inducted into the Hall of Fame.
In his nine years as the Yankees second baseman, Coleman played in 6 World Series and won 8 Division Titles. Coleman earned Rookie of the Year honors in 1949, played in the 1950 All-Star game, and was named the 1950 World Series MVP.
Jerry says "I"m a Padre and I'll always be a Padre".
How does he compare to Tony Gwynn?
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jbox
is certainly not the most objective writer.
"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG
by TheGrandHatching on Feb 5, 2010 10:01 AM PST reply actions
Anyone who votes 5 or lower should be put on the terrorist watch list.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Feb 5, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions
Jerry coached the Padres "of the future"
even though they finished in dead last, the 1980 club had a whole lot of speed with Ozzie Smith, Gene Richards and Jerry Mumphrey all stealing 50+ bases. Speed is what Jed and the boys are banking on for the future. I wonder if that 1980 squad would have amassed a lot more wins if they were playing in Petco.
Wow.
You really did give him a 3. Not a big fan of infidels there, al-Zarqawi?
"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG
by TheGrandHatching on Feb 5, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
no, he's a Padre
“If I had my way, I’d be playing second base for the Padres, play 10 games, get hurt and make $4 million,”- JC
- I guess the difference between Winfield and Coleman is the fact Winfield was paid to represent the Padres in the HOF. Don’t get me wrong, I like Winfield, but a sleazy, greedy move like that just wreaks of yankee.
JC is a class act and a true Padre. The man really does deserve a ton of credit for sticking with the team through so many awful years. It’s a safe to say that he’ll always be the Padres’ #1 fan.
by recorddigger on Feb 5, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
My reasoning
Jerry Coleman hasn’t done anything for this ballclub that truly represents the Padres the way a player like Tony Gwynn has. The only people who even know of Jerry Coleman are Padres fans and a minority of baseball fans in general. Most of the “smart” baseball fans who him are either die hard Yankee fans or have read Summer of ’49, and therefore know Jerry Coleman as a Yankee.
Tony Gwynn forces baseball historians to realize that the Padres have had a player of Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Ted Williams caliber. Tony Gwynn represents this team in Cooperstown as one of the greatest players in the history of the game. It is difficult to even imagine any player achieving the things Tony Gwynn did as a Padre. I can very easily imagine Ted Leitner completing 8 more years as a radio announcer for the club.
One thought experiment would be to imagine the Padres without Tony Gwynn and imagine the Padres without Jerry Coleman. I cannot be convinced that erasing Jerry Coleman from the Padres history would have any effect that comes even close to erasing Tony Gwynn from Padres history.
From where I sit, Tony Gwynn orders of magnitude more important to this ballclub than any player and certainly should blow ANY broadcaster clear out of the water by comparison.
by Dex on Feb 6, 2010 12:27 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree.
I don’t see how an announcer can even register a decent number.
As a big Padres fan since 1983 but as someone who has never lived in San Diego nor listened to the Padres on the radio, I just don’t see announcers being that important.
They are not part of the team. A team is 25 players and a manager and a few coaches.
One more thing: Coleman and other announcers and writers are not IN the Hall of Fame. They are honored in a wing of the Hall of Fame.
Coleman is not a Hall of Famer.
Probably an inopportune time
but I think one of my all-time favorite comments on GLB was wiggins4ever’s suggestion on “17 ways for the Padres to get people to attend more games without making changes to the team or the park dimensions”.
"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG
by TheGrandHatching on Feb 5, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions
Was?
What did you do to him?
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it kind of reminds me of that movie "You've got mail"...I'm Tom Hanks he's Meg Ryan -- Padres prospect Matt Antonelli on sdsuaztec4
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 5, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
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