Dave Winfield: On a scale from Zero to Tony Gwynn
by jbox on Feb 4, 2010 1:38 PM PST
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PrintThe Zero to Tony Gwynn scale is a rating of a Padres' importance to the San Diego Padres and their fans. The scale works to determine the relative importance of a particular Padre based on the assumption that Tony Gwynn is the perfect representation of the San Diego Padres.
Dave Winfield. The first Padres representative in the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Never mind that 50% of that decision was because he was bribed into it and the other 50% was to stick it to George Steinbrenner. He's a Padres Hall of Famer. He has his number retired. He started his illustrious career with the Padres. He's an Executive Vice President with the Padres.
But do his years as a Yankee overshadow his years with the Padres? Did his constant stream of TV appearances wearing Yankees gear create a rift between him and San Diego? Has so much time gone by that all those that actually saw him play in a Padres uniform met their great reward?
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by TheGrandHatching on Feb 4, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
There is a good chance
that if Winfield had chosen to play football or basketball out of Minnesota rather than signing with the Padres, San Diego would not have a team today. He was that important in establishing the franchise in their infancy.
Thank you for waving at me.
by Winfield's Ghost on Feb 4, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions
Agree!
I voted 7. I don’t think he was here long enough to get a higher vote.
But he was the first real star the team had. Other than Gwynn, he is the best player to be developed by the Padres. I don’t fault him for playing for the Yankees, that has no impact on me.
Besides, it is not as if we have an abundance of other players to choose from to replace his significance.
Second greatest Padre of all time.
This, I have to think about...
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he had some good years. When I started following the Padres in the early 80s I don’t remember too many other fans mentioning him. I remember being surprised when I heard that he had played for the Padres and even more surprised that he was going into the HoF as a Padres.
Perhaps it’s not entirely his fault. He was surrounded by a pretty meager team, so he didn’t have a lot of impact in terms of winning seasons or playoff appearances. But still, I think there are about 5-7 former padres I would rather meet and have a meal with than Winfield.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 4, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions
You give Garvey an 8
and Winfield a 3?
Wow! You and I view the game and the franchise very differently.
Winfield was a great Yankee!
and a better player than Garvey. But Garvey had a much bigger impact on the Padres than Winfield did. Plus, I’ve been a Garvey fan since before I can remember.
Outside of looking at Winfield’s stat lines, I couldn’t tell you one impactful thing he did as a Padres.
The Garv had the HR and went an entire year without committing an error in the field, and led the Padres to their first playoff and WS appearance.
Garvey is the reason I started following the Padres, and I didn’t even know Winfield had been a Padres until someone told me in the 90s.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 4, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Winfield was a great Padre.
It is too bad it took you over a decade to even realize he had played for the team.
"Wow! You and I view the game and the franchise very differently."
This is the Internet.
Go ahead, you can call him an idiot.
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by Axion on Feb 4, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
i've noticed you and Dex are very good about that policy in your posts.
Too good, probably.
by Dalton on Feb 4, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
my thoughts on rating padres players
The sad truth is we do not have that many legends or even great players who played 5+ years in the Padres uniform. We just don’t. If Adrian makes it the entire 2010 season, he will qualify for that 5+ years.
As for older players (before the early 1980’s; I was born in 1979), if I know that they played for the Padres, that has got to be worth at least a “5” rating. But no one, but Tony, is worth a 10.
9’s… Trevor, a few others
But most Padres are going to rate at 5 or lower.
My guess is that players who played for the Padres two decades ago (or more) are going to be very hard to rate. Start throwing out players from late 90’s and 2000’s, and there will be much greater consensus.
We would have lost the WS in 6 games
instead of 5
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Dave Winfield was the first star the Padres had.
He was a complete player, a five-tool player. He was a great athlete, an exciting player, 6-6, 220.
He is in the Hall of Fame as a Padres player. Winfield, Tony Gwynn. That’s it. Only Hoffman can join them in the next 10 years or so. Who after that? Adrian? It’s a short list.
He was the best player in the league in 1979. He just happened to play on a bad team. He never matched that season with the Yankees.
Winfield was so good that the Yankees signed him to the biggest contract in baseball history.
by brewer090 on Feb 5, 2010 1:55 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
He is in the Hall of Fame as a Padres player
’cus the FRIARS paid him to do it.
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by wrveres on Feb 5, 2010 2:15 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
It is not just playing ability.
It is the entire package…. No one forced Dave to come back and take a job with the Padres, but he did. The moment he did, it was time to put away his Yankee gear and represent the Padres. Instead, he has chosen to represent the Yankees at every availalbe oppertunity. For that I gave him 0.
I disagree!
Jerry Coleman is employed by the Padres, but he shows up at Yankee events.
Players like Gossage, Reggie Jackson, Keith Hernandez have been employed by teams but still attended functions and events for other teams.
I don’t have a problem with it. They played for multiple teams.
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