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Trevor Hoffman: On a scale from Zero to Tony Gwynn

I can already tell that I'm going to have a hard time explaining the idea behind this post, because I'm having trouble explaining it to Dex. Dex keeps cutting me off saying "Jerry Coleman is a Yankee!"

If we assume that Tony Gwynn is the perfect Padre in every conceivable way, then how do other people associated with the Padres measure up?

I want to do a series of blog posts trying to figure out how some other San Diego Padres icons measure up to Mr. Padre. Then after we get the results we can maybe figure out a formula that tells us what criteria is important to us as fans.

This isn't so much about stats as much as it is about how beloved they are by Padres fans. 

For instance if I said "Paul McAnulty", you might say "Who?"  or "That good for nothin' sonuva--" and he'd get a zero.  But if I said "Ken Caminiti" then you might scratch your chin and say "Well, I love him 1/3 as much as I do Tony the Gwynn" So you'd vote him a 3.

It's not just about love, but also how important he was to you and the franchise.

If I said "Kevin Kouzmanoff", you might swoon and fall off your pony and say "he's a NINE!" In this case you'd be an outlier because you're crazy if you think that.

It also might depend on your age.  For example, I might have been alive when Winfield still played for the Padres, but I wasn't cognitively aware of him.  I think of him as a Padres executive who wears a Yankees hat any chance he can get.  So while an old guy like WG might say something crusty like "Winfield was the cat's meow", I just can't get behind that.

So does this make any sense?  Do you understand what you are voting for? No?  Hmmm.  Let's try anyway.

Let's start with another Padres all time great, Mr. Trevor Hoffman.  He's the all times save leader. He's the link between the 1996, 1998, 2005 and 2006 teams.  He was a Padre for what 16 seasons?  A great guy by all accounts and involved in the community. He was always friendly to fans and the media. Where does Trevor rank on the Tony Gwynn Scale?

Poll
Where does Trevor Hoffman rank on a scale form Zero to Tony Gwynn?
Tony the Gwynn
91 votes
9
260 votes
8
133 votes
7
45 votes
6
17 votes
5
5 votes
4
3 votes
3
2 votes
2
2 votes
1
1 votes
Zero
2 votes

561 votes | Poll has closed

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for the record.

voted Tony the Gwynn.

i loved Tony but i loved Hoffy more.

Hoffman routinely got me up in my seat rocking ..
Gwynn made me golf clap a lot when he slapped a single through the 4.5 hole.

I love em both, but I was partial towards Hoffy.

does than make me a loon?

552

by wrveres on Feb 3, 2010 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

No

Hoffman is one of the few guys that you could see being up there with Tony. You’re not crazy for thinking that, but I disagree.

by jbox on Feb 3, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

It’s the 5.5 hole.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Feb 3, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul McAnulty

Gets a 1 from me for his walk-off hit by pitch to beat the Mets.

by Frozen_Pizza on Feb 3, 2010 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

Still though

1/10th of a Tony Gwynn?

by jbox on Feb 3, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Cammy gets a 1

cus he tried to bang my married sister, even after he found out she was married.
And from what i understand their were many brothers in the same boat.

552

by wrveres on Feb 3, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

See that kind of information is important

because fond memories rank highly in this vote.

by jbox on Feb 3, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Love this comment.

Love this whole post. Well done, jbox.

"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG

by TheGrandHatching on Feb 3, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

"And from what i understand their were many brothers in the same boat."

Doesn’t that say more about your sister, or did I read that wrong?

by choobie on Feb 3, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was suggesting that there were many married girls getting hit on by him.

by soulSD on Feb 3, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

no

he means that Cammy hit on lots of chicks.

and each of them had a boat.

by Dalton on Feb 3, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  


I hit on lots of chicks too guys!

by soulSD on Feb 3, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs


I got a boat

And I've been into the plants and simple treasures

by CurbEnthusiasm on Feb 3, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   4 recs

That was my interpretation of "brothers".

But the “boat” thing confused me.

"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG

by TheGrandHatching on Feb 3, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

"Wut r u talkin' about I love boats"

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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Feb 3, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll give him

8.5 on the Gwynn scale.

He left and we just made another closer who leads the NL in saves, whereas RF in a post-The Gwynn world… ugh.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Feb 3, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Excellent point

Hoffman was much more replaceable

by strummer on Feb 4, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I gave him an 8

but added 1 point for wearing jorts.

I hate you,

by Mad_Villain on Feb 3, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

"If I said "Kevin Kouzmanoff", you might swoon and fall off your pony"

F’n hilarious!!!

BTW, the only 9 that I would give would be for KT. That guy was a true Padre blue FRIAR.

by friarfanatic on Feb 3, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

we’ll definitely have to rate KT on the Gwynn scale.

by jbox on Feb 3, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

How about....

Archie Cianfracco, Phil Plantier, Mark Sweeney, Willie Blair, Doug Bochtler and Craig Shipley?

by pad_619 on Feb 3, 2010 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

i used to love trevor and defend him against bastard yankee fans

now? meh he was a real douche on the way out

And I've been into the plants and simple treasures

by CurbEnthusiasm on Feb 3, 2010 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

still gave him a 9 though

hells bells baby

And I've been into the plants and simple treasures

by CurbEnthusiasm on Feb 3, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Feb 3, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He did it twice, actually.

But the second time Tim McClelland said Matt Holliday scored with her.

by Dalton on Feb 3, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

“Hell, I like you, you can come over to my house and f**k my sister.”

by Drama on Feb 3, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

exactly, sarge.

that’s what San Diego would tell Tony Gwynn.

Hoffman we would invite over for a couple beers, but have an excuse lined up in case things started dragging on too long.

by Dalton on Feb 3, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't BELIEVE people are going as high as TG or even a 9

I forget now what I put, but Tony Gwynn gets compared to Ty Cobb and Honus Wagner. Trevor gets compared to Lee Smith and Mariano Rivera.

by Dex on Feb 3, 2010 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

I gave him a 6

and I thought that was being kind of generous.

by jbox on Feb 3, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the problem with the pool

Is that TG is the only name on there. It would help if, say, #5 had someone like Adrian, #3 had Jake Peavy, #9 had Curt Schilling, etc.

by Dalton on Feb 3, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I gave him an 8

He was a great Padre, which is what the questioned asked right? Tony is the all time best San Diegan and one of the best hitters of all time. There should be no 9s and Tonys.

by soulSD on Feb 3, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Hoffy gets a 9

I saw front row field for the prime of Gwynn’s career. He is untouchable.

by field39 on Feb 3, 2010 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

I thought 8 was fair.

Someone actually voted a zero? Did he kick your dog once or what?

by goldfyngor on Feb 3, 2010 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

Sandy Alderson still lurks this site.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Feb 3, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

7

No one gets an 8 or a 9.

"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG

by TheGrandHatching on Feb 3, 2010 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

I can't wait for the rest of this series.

I hope you do dancing grounds crew guy. That little prick.

"When the going gets tough... TheGrandHatching pops in later." -- WG

by TheGrandHatching on Feb 3, 2010 4:56 PM PST reply actions  

There can be only one

Mr. Padre and that’s T the G so I say 9.
Gwynn – P Mac = Trevor

by anthony on Feb 3, 2010 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

subtracting negatives

that would put Trevor 1 above Gwynn in my book

Farewell Kouz...go tear it up in Oaktown

by icaughthundleys#4 on Feb 3, 2010 6:05 PM PST reply actions  

P Mac was entertaining, he gets a 1 for that. Where does Matt Bush rate?

by anthony on Feb 3, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

he never played for the padres

And I've been into the plants and simple treasures

by CurbEnthusiasm on Feb 3, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

subtracting negatives

Hitler was a better leader than George Washington.

by Dalton on Feb 3, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, jbox.

This was fun. We should do this again soon.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Feb 3, 2010 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

Don't treat P-Mac

like he was Jim Edmonds.

I hate you,

by Mad_Villain on Feb 3, 2010 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

I honestly only have 2 memories of Paul McAnulty.

1) Drama bitching about him.

2)


San Diego Padres’ Paul McAnulty is out at third as Colorado Rockies’ Garrett Atkins applies the tag after McAnulty tried to stretch a double into a triple while leading off the bottom of the 13th inning in a scoreless game against the Colorado Rockies Thursday April 17, 2008 in San Diego.

And yes, #1 and #2 did overlap.

by Dalton on Feb 3, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I did bitch about him a lot, didn't I?

The night he tried to stretch that double I completely lost my shit.

by Drama on Feb 4, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Be nice to PMac

He gets a 1. The first guy that I could think of that would earn a 0: Doug Mirabelli.

I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Feb 3, 2010 9:41 PM PST reply actions  

So PMac

had 1/10 the meaning to you as Tony the Gwynn?

by jbox on Feb 4, 2010 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I see the scale as more richter-like

Where each one is 10 times the previous one.

Or, maybe a Bell curve.

Anyway, it just seems like you have to earn a zero. PMac worked hard and was a little scrappy. I’ll save the 0’s for jackasses.

I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Feb 4, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

exaaactly

dont treat Pmac like he was Edmonds

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Feb 5, 2010 3:56 AM PST up reply actions  

He had that lovable loser

thing working for him.
You couldn’t stay mad at PMAC, even when he ate all your nachos.

by strummer on Feb 5, 2010 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

9

The player most associated with the Padres other han Gwynn.

The all-time saves leader.

He will enter the Hall of Fame as a Padres player.

Hell’s Bells.

by brewer090 on Feb 5, 2010 2:06 AM PST reply actions  

I am not so sure

he is a slam dunk for the HOF.

But I guess I should save that for another thread.

by strummer on Feb 5, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it will take several years

but eventually he will get in. A lot of it depends who else is on the ballot.

He can’t expect his SAVES total to carry him in.

by strummer on Feb 5, 2010 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

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