Rule 5 Draft
With the Rule 5 draft coming up next week I thought it might be worth while to take a look at some of the more interesting players that are eligible for this year's draft. There is a handy list of all the eligible players for this year's draft here. First off the players in the Padres organization it lists as eligible are:
Nick Schmidt, Aaron Breit, Matt Buschmann, Nathan Culp, Steven Faris, Colt Hynes, Alexis Lara, Anthony Contreras, Andy Parrino, Quentin Berry, Craig Cooper, Hayden Beard, Nick Schumaker, Danny Payne.
I don't see any of those players being drafted and kept on a team for all of 2011, maybe Colt Hynes.
Now here are some position players I think the Padres should take a look at.
| Pos | Age | Level '10 | Org | Drafted | G | AVG | OBP | SLG | HR | SB | |
| Matt Lawson | 2B | 24 | AA | SEA | 14th rd | 118 | .293 | .372 | .439 | 9 | 6 |
| Brad Emaus | 2B | 24 | AAA/AA | TOR | 11th | 125 | .290 | .397 | .476 | 15 | 13 |
| Ryan Adams | 2B | 23 | AA | BAL | 2nd | 134 | .298 | .365 | .464 | 15 | 2 |
| Marquez Smith | 3B/2B? | 25 | AAA/AA | CHC | 8th | 107 | .297 | .371 | .556 | 20 | 2 |
| Steve Clevenger | C | 24 | AA | CHC | 7th | 88 | .317 | .367 | .461 | 5 | 0 |
| Justin Sellers | SS | 24 | AAA | LAD | 6th | 90 | .285 | .360 | .456 | 14 | 5 |
| Josh Rodriguez | SS/2B | 25 | AAA/AA | CLE | 2nd | 107 | .297 | .378 | .484 | 13 | 6 |
| Corey Wimberly | SS/2B/OF | 26 | AAA | OAK | 6th | 135 | .284 | .373 | .354 | 3 | 56 |
Sellers and Lawson are supposed to be + defenders while Wimberly is supposed to be below average. Marquez Smith is a + defender at 3B, but probably average at best at 2B where he only has 32 minor league games played. The rest are some where around average defensively. Brad Emaus and Ryan Adams are probably the most highly regarded, making organizational top prospect lists at some point. With Adams ranking 8th in Baseball America's Orioles prospect list for 2011.
There are also a number of eligible pitchers that could possibly be useful bullpen arms. I mainly looked for guys with high K/9 rates since I consider strike outs kind of a proxy for "stuff", and high strike out guys typically have the best chance of succeeding as relief pitchers
| Age | Level | Org | Drafted | G | IP | ERA | WHIP | BB/9 | K/9 | ||
| Beau Jones | P | 23 | AA | TEX | 1st | 34 | 52.2 | 2.91 | 1.27 | 5.1 | 11 |
| Michael Dubee | P | 24 | AA | PIT | 18th | 46 | 77.1 | 2.21 | 1.073 | 2.4 | 7.9 |
| Jay Buente | P | 26 | AAA/AA | FLA | 14th | 34 | 48.2 | 3.14 | 1.315 | 4.4 | 10 |
| Michael Broadway | P | 23 | AAA/AA | ATL | 4th | 40 | 53.1 | 4.39 | 1.425 | 4.2 | 9.6 |
| Brad Meyers | P | 24 | AA | WSN | 5th | 6 | 30.2 | 1.47 | 0.978 | 2.1 | 10 |
| Jason Rice | P | 24 | AA | BOS | 11th | 48 | 60 | 2.85 | 1.25 | 4.5 | 11 |
| Eammon Portice | P | 25 | AA | BOS | 12th | 40 | 93 | 4.65 | 1.366 | 2.4 | 9.3 |
| Pedro Beato | P | 23 | AA | BAL | 1st | 43 | 59.2 | 2.11 | 1.14 | 2.9 | 7.5 |
| Wynn Pelzer | P | 24 | AA | BAL | 9th | 32 | 114.1 | 4.25 | 1.653 | 5 | 8.1 |
Brad Meyers was highly regarded and off to a great start last year, but injured his foot after just 6 starts. Meyers could potentially be a useful back of the rotation starter in the future, but not next year. Wynn Pelzer is the same Wynn Pelzer we traded for Miggy last year, and I think would have a very good chance of being a useful reliever. Even after a down year in 2010 Pelzer is ranked by Baseball America as the Orioles 6th best prospect going into 2011. I don't know why the Orioles can't find a way to fit Pelzer and Adams on their 40 man rosters, but I guess that's their problem.
For those unfamiliar with the rule 5 draft, the wiki article here is pretty helpful. Basically a player is eligible after 5 years in the minors if they were obtained when they were 18 or younger and after 4 years if they were 19 or older. The draft order is the same as it is for the regular June Amateur draft, that is from worst record to last. So we will be something like 22nd this year. A player that is chosen costs $50K and must be kept on the team's active roster for the next season or else offered back to the original team. Not every team picks a player and typically about 15-20 players are chosen in all. Most players chosen are pitchers since it's easier to hide a pitcher in a bullpen for a year than a position player on a bench.
Who knows what Hoyer and Co. will do, if anything, in this year's rule 5 draft, but there is possibly a diamond or two in that rough. With the trade and free agent markets being as thin as they are at middle infield this year and our need for at least one more reliever the rule 5 draft could be a means of the Padres filling a need on the cheap. Who knows maybe Hoyer could find the next Dan Uggla or Joakim Soria.
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(or Johan Santana)
Or, like Santana, maybe Jed can trade for that special player…
Ehhhh, I don't deserve a signature...
For some reason
Seeing the name Ryan Adams had me laughing like crazy. Too bad he’s not a faceless, slider-tossing goof…
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by FriarFaithful4Life on Dec 2, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions
Out of that list
only ones i’m interested in are those that can get on base and have good speed with good defensive skills. Things we are going to need, we are still looking for a bloody lead off hitter so anyone of those guys fit the bill?
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Well, we're looking at possibilities, and it's possible
that some farm systems are deep enough that the club has a star at a position and a couple prospects in the minors that could play that position at the major league level. The better prospect moves up and the lesser, but still good prospect gets bypassed enough to stay in the minors long enough to be exposed to rule 5.
Imagine catchers in the Yankees system. With Posada holding the position so long, that organization has probably had a string of prospects who could have been serviceable major leaguers, but the Yankees would protect only the best prospect. Some of those lesser prospects might have made it if given the chance.
Pujols wasn’t the best 3B prospect in the Cards system until he got the chance in Spring Training, and LaRussa put him on the team and played him at several positions to get his bat in the lineup, and that sure worked out. Did anybody think Tony Gwynn Sr. was a future HOF’er? Even the Dodgers only picked Piazza as a favor to Tommy Lasorda.
You never know until you give the kid a chance in the majors.
NOTE: I reprinted what “wegotballsley” wrote below. I thought it would be funny (like TTG’s post, from whom I stole the idea).
Out of that list
only ones i’m interested in are those that can get on base and have good speed with good defensive skills. Things we are going to need, we are still looking for a bloody lead off hitter so anyone of those guys fit the bill?
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If they could meet your criteria, they would not be on the list.
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by TheThinGwynn on Dec 2, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
Well, we're looking at possibilities, and it's possible
that some farm systems are deep enough that the club has a star at a position and a couple prospects in the minors that could play that position at the major league level. The better prospect moves up and the lesser, but still good prospect gets bypassed enough to stay in the minors long enough to be exposed to rule 5.
Imagine catchers in the Yankees system. With Posada holding the position so long, that organization has probably had a string of prospects who could have been serviceable major leaguers, but the Yankees would protect only the best prospect. Some of those lesser prospects might have made it if given the chance.
Pujols wasn’t the best 3B prospect in the Cards system until he got the chance in Spring Training, and LaRussa put him on the team and played him at several positions to get his bat in the lineup, and that sure worked out. Did anybody think Tony Gwynn Sr. was a future HOF’er? Even the Dodgers only picked Piazza as a favor to Tommy Lasorda.
You never know until you give the kid a chance in the majors.
by wegotballsley on Dec 3, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
Clay Zavada
That’s the guy they should be taking a chance on. He had TJ in May, so they could stash him on the DL for a while yet.
…they could stash ’stache him on the DL…
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Shit.
Nice use of the reply button, TTG.
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I don't see us having a roster spot for a Rule 5 draftee
Unless we trade someone for players who won’t go on the 40 man or the draftee gets one of the remaining starting spots or we make Luebke or LeBlanc the 5th starter or we make Everth Cabrera the starter at 2B or SS and the draftee is a backup MI or the draftee is a backup catcher/ All of those scenarios seem unlikely to me.
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The signing of Moseley
Makes the odds of them getting someone in the rule 5 unlikely.
Kind of unrelated question, Wonko (or anyone else) you know if Hoffpauir is out of options going into 2011?
by Antonio Olivares on Dec 7, 2010 5:42 PM PST reply actions

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