Should Khalil Greene and the Padres reunite?
by jbox on Jan 8, 2010 2:15 PM PST
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PrintLast week on XX 1090 Coach John Kentera interviewed Jed Hoyer and asked him if the Padres considered picking up Khalil Greene as a utility player who could sub at short and play third base.
"We do need to bring someone in that can play shortstop...Khalil [Greene] is a name that will probably be on the list".
According to our Gaslamp Ball poll 64% of you wanted to see Khalil return to the Padres.
My initial reaction to Khalil's return would be similar to Michael's, when Toby returned from Costa Rica:
Buster Olney had this to say a few days ago:
Greene is working out this winter at Vanderbilt University with his former college coach Tim Corbin. "I hope someone gives him a shot," said Corbin. "... He is working very diligently on his defense and his offense in our cages, three to four hours a day." He may be working hard, but it'd be shocking if the 30-year-old scored anything more than a minor league contract.
After a little bit of reflection and having Dex belittle me, I think I would be okay if Khalil was given a chance at the Minor League level with the Padres. I just think for now, he's too big of risk. The Padres need a competent and consistent utility man and with Khalil's recent troubles in the past couple of years, he would need to prove himself again in the Minors before I would want to see him playing at Petco Park again.
One major factor as to why I would not want him back on the Major League roster is because I don't trust Bud Black not to play him. He'd probably start getting three starts a week a few weeks into the season. It's too big of a temptation for Black. He's a huge Khalil fan and if Everth Cabrera slumped for a few days he might replace him entirely.
Though a large majority of San Diego fans would welcome him back with open arms, I'm not so sure this would be the best place for him. Khalil left San Diego frustrated. Even with Alderson gone and the grievance resolved, I've heard that the storage locker is still there... waiting. Plus, there would be lofty expectations in this city for him. He would probably benefit from a fresh start in another club's Minor League system.
Corey Brock thinks the chances of the Padres signing Greene are "very slim" and "not going to happen".
[Note by jbox, 01/10/10 11:51 AM PST ]
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Micheal Scott summed up my feelings perfectly
I was not a fan when he was here, and I don’t want to see Spicolli back.
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
Rec'd for the Michael/Toby reference
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
No way do I want him taking up roster space,
and I especially don’t want him taking starts from Everth.
"I'm a Padre at heart. Always gonna root for the Padres. Twenty-five years [with this organization], how can't you? Next year I'm gonna be rooting like a son-of-a-gun for these guys and for Blackie ... I'm gonna be rooting for the next general manager here, rooting for the city, the fans, everybody. I think a lot of San Diego." -Kevin Towers
I remember Black
pinch-hitting for Khalil in big situations before he left.
I don’t think Buddy’s his biggest fan.
http://thesacrificebunt.com/
That was more because
They needed some power in those situations and the rest of bench had none.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
I need to hear who else they are considering for a utility role before I say no.
He may be a far better option in the correct role than we realize.
Yeah, that's why I'm split on having him back...
I don’t want him taking starts from Everth and his offense is crap, but solid defense is exactly what you need from your backup.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jan 8, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Everth’s development at SS is way more important than a one year reunion with Kbot.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
i thought that was so funny
that i ALMOST stole it and put it on my facebook page.
well i did do that, but i gave credit to the almighty box.
i have tears in my eyes from laughter, because that is EXACTLY what my reaction would be the first time he flailed at a low and away slider and moped back to the dugout in his overly baggy uniform.
"I suggest more bike" ~KSK
www.throughbucknerslegs.com
Here's a better question with him as a FA
Why in the world would he come back to San Diego where he was thrown out after a bad year and started most of the problems he’s been struggling with?
by TheAxManCometh on Jan 8, 2010 4:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
lol i dont think sunny san diego is behind khalil's anxiety
Big kid tested, mother fucker approved
by CurbEnthusiasm on Jan 8, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think if somebody sets up a meeting with the storage locker and Khalil on Opra, and they can hug it out.
I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?
If he's willing to take a minor league deal
and he can play 3B, SS, and 2B. I’d love to take the chance on bringing him. There’s really no risk, and the potential for upside is definitely there.
I know he left SD on some shaky terms, but there’s a completely new front office staff which would alleviate that akwardness. Plus maybe getting to play in the place where he has experienced success before in his career would be good for the confidence. It’s not like he’s going to be an outspoken clubhouse cancer type. I still see people at petco wearing Greene jerseys… he has a good following and if nothing else it would be a small PR move that makes some actual baseball sense.
Who would you want to see as the utility IF. Luis Rodriguez or Khalil Greene???
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Still seeing support out there for the #Padres to sign Khalil Greene. Not going to happen. Will likely wait for out-of-options guy in ST.
is he talking about you?
Big kid tested, mother fucker approved
by CurbEnthusiasm on Jan 8, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Dumb
Why would you take AB’s away from Evereth to give them to a guy who was sub par hitter at best with marginal speed, and power that oddly showed up at colorado, and few other places. I was saying they should have gotten rid of Greene 2 seasons before they did, defense is nice and all, but you also have to put runs on the board at some point.
I most remember the fact that any RHP with a slider could get this guy out by throwing 3 straight outside sliders, whether they were anywhere near the plate or not.
As to the point of utility infielder, I remember Luis Rodriguez having some key pinch hits, and playing a soldid defense at any position he was put at. Greene actually got pinch hit FOR multiple times.
I don't remember Luis Rodriguez
“playing a solid defense at any position”
I used to be a Khalil fan until
I watched his special on channel 4. I had this idea that because Khalil looks like Spicoli, he was Spicoli. Couldn’t be further from the truth, talk about no fun.
Couple that with the fact that he absolutely sucked big time and there is absolutely no reason for Khalil to come back. Plus, IMO Everth is the most exciting Padre to watch and he’s a young guy that will most likely struggle here and there and will need extended PT to grow and overcome those struggles.
Lamar = Laker for Life...Go Pads...Go Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Jan 9, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions
Yeah
We have a crazy boring team. Zero personalities on our team. Well Heath, but he tries too hard.
sigh
(looks at photo of Uncle Milty and swoons)
"I suggest more bike" ~KSK
www.throughbucknerslegs.com
miss you milton
<3
Big kid tested, mother fucker approved
by CurbEnthusiasm on Jan 10, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather
Take my chances finding someone in spring training or signing Jerry hairston jr
or as more of a dream to sign a better 2B and then move eckstein to utility
by TheAxManCometh on Jan 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i'm confident that Khalil's anxiety started
when Greg Maddux peed on him.
by Mad_Villain on Jan 9, 2010 4:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Using UZR
from FanGraphs Khalil’s defense was rarely very good. Something to keep in mind when talking about how well he plays D.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
by Wonko on Jan 9, 2010 5:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think it's that Kouzmanoff idea
that because the error count is low he must have played excellent gold-glove caliber defense. I wouldn’t be opposed to it, on the grounds that he comes in KNOWING the starting SS job isn’t his, he’s a guy you play on Sunday (with Bud Black’s Wacky Weekend WTF Lineup) to give Cabrera/Kouz or some other player a rest. Ex: rest Adrian and Kouz, stick Blanks at first, throw Headley in LF and Greene at third. It gives Black flexibility to rest players without producing a lineup of guys batting .240 and lower.
Id like to see him back
ill take anyone who can hit. The Padres need someone with some power, maybe itll scare some pitchers into actually throwing to adrian.
id like scott hairston back too, i can dream…
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