According to reports, Padres have signed 30-year old pitcher Jon Garland to oa deal pending a physical.
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Confirmed by Corey Brock.
On his twitter.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 26, 2010 2:22 PM PST reply actions
This
sounds pretty good. Out of all FA starters out there Garland seemed like the most interesting option. I never imagined he would fit into our budget though…
by sixpakfrombelgium on Jan 26, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions
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by Axion on Jan 26, 2010 2:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
i hate Garland
but somehow i like that we got him.
I can’t explain.
by schwing and a miss on Jan 26, 2010 2:44 PM PST reply actions
Great innings eater for our young staff.
Nice move Jedi.
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Now we await what gossip jbox will dig up on him
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 26, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions
dont mind adding to the competition
i wouldnt fell comfortable just yet putting LeBlanc into the 5 hole. I wonder sometimes if he’s related to Geer. I do like Stauffer and his ability to compete. Gallagher, Poreda & Ramos are total question marks and I didnt really expect them to get the ball. Let the best man win!!!
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by Duke Street Kings on Jan 26, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions
ITS A YOUTH MOVEMENT
Unless of course Hoyer likes the player, then it doesn’t matter whether or not they fit with anything we do
So we got a big fat injured guy to play PH or maybe LF (yeah right)
Now we get an old pitcher who brings ‘veteran leadership’ (CY or Correira anyone?) and can ‘eat innings’ (though there’s nothing about whether he does anything GOOD in those innings).
So yeah instead of finding out what we have in players like Stauffer or LeBlanc or even Ramos, we get an old pitcher to take up innings while he gets rocked.
BRILLIANT (fail)
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I am annoyed
I like the youth movement and I like all the moves minus stairs and this. It’s a contradiction to their plan of action and doesn’t fit what is being done especially stairs.
We’d need to find out which of Leblanc and preda and stauffer can play
by TheAxManCometh on Jan 26, 2010 3:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Stairs
who cares about that deal. it is nothing.
if he comes to spring training and can’t play it cost us nothing.
by schwing and a miss on Jan 26, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Stairs will get maybe 100 at bats all season.
No exactctly the kind of role you usually fill with a prospect.
Exactly.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 27, 2010 4:07 AM PST up reply actions
I kind of agree with you about Garland.
Though it could be the team doesn’t think any of those guys are ready or dependable. Plus if Garland performs well you can trade him in July for a prospect or two and then play the young guys anyway.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 26, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Cheap, durable starters are very valuable.
You don’t just throw 2-3 rookies to the wolves and count on them for 400 IP. Remember the Yankees starting Ian Kennedy and Phil Hughes a couple years ago?
Totally right.
Which is why this is probably the better approach.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 26, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Young pitching staffs always work better when there’s 1-2 veterans there to lead the way and answer questions.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 27, 2010 4:08 AM PST up reply actions
Un Rec
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 26, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
or maybe
we know what we have in Stauffer (sucks) LeBlanc (bullpen).
by schwing and a miss on Jan 26, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
If thts the case
Then cut them all and throw them in the scrap heap. Why the hell keep them in the first place?
by TheAxManCometh on Jan 26, 2010 3:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
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In the National League and in PETCO
he could be about a 3 WAR player. If they signed him for $10m or less, it’s a pretty good deal.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 26, 2010 3:13 PM PST reply actions
has to be
under 10 million. my guess is no more than $6
he and Correa will be good trade bait if we are out of it too
by schwing and a miss on Jan 26, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
If Correa can hold it togeather for another half season then the Padres can move him at the deadline and get a mid level prospect, or if CY can stay healthy and pitch well the first half of the year there may be an oportunity to move him as well. Adding Garland gives the Padres a ton of flexability this year.
I think everyone knows by now that CY is useless away from Petco.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 27, 2010 4:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Except for that one start in 2006 in St. Louis.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 27, 2010 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
he took a no-no
into the 8th i think in milwaukee maybe 2 years ago
Sorry.
Five days after taking a no-hitter into the eighth inning, Young held the Pittsburgh Pirates hitless through 5 1-3 innings in leading the San Diego Padres to a 1-0 win Sunday afternoon.
Yup.
And it wasn’t just a no-no, it was a perfect game. Ended up being a complete-game shutout though.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 27, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
The deal is for $5.3m
with a $6.75m option for 2011.
That’s a pretty good deal. He should exceed that and generate surplus value.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 26, 2010 3:17 PM PST reply actions
Brock thinks this is the team that will go to spring training.
I say grab Jose Molina or someone like that on the cheap.
Ausmus signed with the Doyers
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 26, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
we'll probably find a backup catcher
on the waiver wire when the rosters are paired down… right?
mission accomplished.
i think so.
someone will get released or traded.
by schwing and a miss on Jan 27, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
I like it
If healthy, should really contribute. Makes trading Young much easier.
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Eh, still an "if"
How many times can Albert Pujols break his face off? Surely the odds are getting longer.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jan 27, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
I remember saying something similar
as he was standing on first base. And then he went three more bases and took out Josh Bard…
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Am I going to lose another bet???
Dammit.
I like this better than giving Ben Sheets $10 million dollars.
Hahahahahahaha
He’s signed for $5.3 Million.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 26, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I now have the first two rounds...
By the time we finally meet…we’re going to have plans to get seriously fit-shaced.
Wasn't that the plan to begin with?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 26, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
hurray beer!!
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by justdave on Jan 26, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice addition in Garland
anyone still angry about addition of Stairs based on the fact that he lost 31 lbs.
He only lost the weight
Because an artificial hip weighs less than the original.
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by Boilermaker19 on Jan 26, 2010 5:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think he was added because he’s been a good LH PH for a while now, and it’s a position that needed to be filled on this team.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 27, 2010 4:10 AM PST up reply actions
Great, great move.
He’s not going to “block” any of our young pitchers. They’ll still get their chances.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jan 26, 2010 4:04 PM PST reply actions
Of course he blocks them
Only way Stauffer etc gets up there is if one of the five main ones get injured. Preventing others from getting the chance to be in the majors is called blocking.
Unless you seriously believe one of the five won’t make it out of ST as a starter, and if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you
by TheAxManCometh on Jan 26, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah you're right...
I forgot that CY, Correia, Latos, Garland and Richard are all good for 33 starts and none of them will miss any starts due to injury or under-performance.
We should probably go ahead and trade all those pitching prospects now.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jan 26, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Here's a dumb idea
Let’s ask a guy who threw only 73 innings last year to be our 5th starter all season. Here’s a dumber one: Ask the guy who threw 46.1.
Trial by fire is for the end of the season.
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Stop making sense!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 26, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
There are a whoooooooole lot of baseball cliches.
But “you can never have too much pitching” is probably the most true of all.
by Dalton on Jan 26, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i hate to pile on here
but i’m going to pile on here:
how can you expect 5 pitchers to pitch every inning for a whole year, you’re living in some fantasy land.
mission accomplished.
ehh.....
Not excited about this. Adding a pitcher with a WHIP of ~1.39… Luckily we will have a strong outfield… so maybe this could be reduced, but still…
He does not strike me as a huge improvement over any of the young pitchers that we would want to test and see if they can establish themselves.
Although, this could be a brilliant move if we are going to a weird 6 man rotation where Chris Young ONLY pitches at home, ever.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=6073&type=pitching3&three=1
Don’t know if ppl are aware of Young’s incredible home/away splits, but they are getting really ridiculous (beyond simple random fluctuations)—check each of the past three years.
Honestly, he should only pitch at home… And in the playoffs, EVERY attempt should be made to have him pitch at home, even if that means “disrupting” the normal pecking order.
and AZ.
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Garland has been a decent pitcher.
Career FIP of 4.72, projected to be around 4.50 this year. PETCO should help that. If he gives 2.5-3 WAR, it’s a great deal.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 26, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed about CY, not about Garland. Any time you can add a pitcher who has a no-hitter and a 20-win season to his name, for fairly cheap too, you have to call that a good move.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 27, 2010 4:14 AM PST up reply actions
On a side note.
There’s a Padres replay game on tonight, CH4 at 8PM. 2009 game, Pads vs. Phils.
by friarfanatic on Jan 26, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I was probably there. Is Geer pitching his ass off?
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by John Gennaro on Jan 27, 2010 4:15 AM PST up reply actions
They probably wouldn't replay a loss.
It’s probably the game they came back from down seven runs, or the one where they snapped Lidge’s save streak.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 27, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
I like it
considering how much he was paid last year and the prospect arizona got back (tony abreu) , this deal will not be fully realized till august 1… we can count on him being good healthy trade bait when we need it the most. this is an investment in the farm system… props to jed.
mission accomplished.
Yeah, that's the beauty of this deal...
If we’re not in contention at the deadline, there’s a pretty good chance he’ll be healthy and could net us a decent prospect in return.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jan 26, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
I guess the same could be said of all three vets...
Jed’s hoping one (or two) will be healthy and sporting a decent ERA in hopes of shipping them off for some young talent at the deadline.
Does this make our new #5 pitcher our most expensive player?
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by Duke Street Kings on Jan 26, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions
He won't be the #5 guy.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 27, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
Relatively new to the NL
and pitched well in LA. Jon should have an above average season
in the big parks of the NL west. He won’t get blown out in early innings,
which is the problem we had last year – which wore out the bullpen.
We now have a pretty good pitching staff.
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--Groucho Marx.
Can't complain about this one
I applaud Hoyer and ownership for actually making moves. Better than sitting on our hands. I’m just praying we aren’t sunk come July so we can keep Adrian, that sure would be nice…
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by mrbarneydangles on Jan 26, 2010 8:42 PM PST reply actions
hey we filled out our last open pitching
spot with a guy who recently pitched for a winning world series team.
in a universe of overpaid pitchers – we got a pretty good deal.
he is about the same quality as wolf, who is making 10 mil with the brewers
if latos and young step up this year – the padres will have a strong pitching staff.
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by planetjeffy on Jan 27, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
following the lead of the Chargers WRs
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by John Gennaro on Jan 27, 2010 4:16 AM PST up reply actions
height = win
thats how i do it in video games, it only stands to reason that it works in real life as well.
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Sweet
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Fangraphs doesn't like it.
Consensus seems to be the Padres should have stuck with the young kids.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 27, 2010 7:35 AM PST reply actions
They don't like it
because it’s not “sexy” and maybe unnecessary, but we got him at a good price. Those of us looking at the other options (realistically) know we can get some usage out of him.
The only thing we should take from this is:
We got him at a good price. I don’t read FanGraphs for their plotted charts on the sex appeal of the trades the Padres make, we have jbox and Dex for that.
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What do you read them for, then?
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 27, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Numbers. Real ones. “Sex appeal” can’t be plotted without a facial symmetry test. Every GLBer knows that.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Stick With the Kids?
It’s true one potential #5 (Stauffer) pitched only 73 innings – in the majors. He also pitched 42 in triple-A for a total of 115 innings. Not bad after missing the previous year recovering from shoulder reconstruction surgery.
That guy with only 46.1 innings – in the majors (LeBlanc)? He pitched 121 innings in triple-A, for a total of 167 innings, second to Correia among ML and triple-A pitchers. In his last 7 starts, he went 6,6,7,6,5,5 and 7 innings, and went 3-0, the team went 5-2 and he had a 2.57 ERA. I’d like to have seen if he could keep that up.
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