Hairston has been one of my favorite players since his acquisition.

A clutch guy who loved being a Padre.

Wonderful.

Chris Burke wasn’t thrown in on a potential three-team deal with Kooz.

I’m sure we received more talent than we gave up, and we are not winning this year, but it still stings. An outfield of Venable Gwynn and Blanks is in our future with Kouzmanoff probably being shipped to the Mariners and Correia to the Rangers for a pitching machine and 3 bags of balls.

I’m sorry but there’s little to no upside in any of these pitchers for a guy who probably could’ve brought in more or, worse case scenario, kept up a piece of the outfield.

And yeah I know the future of the Pads is apparently Blanks (OK), Gwynn (GOOD) and Venable (IDK) but does that mean you get rid of one of your best hitters for that? Serious?

If that’s the case what do we hope to get for a Meredith or a Kouzmanoff or what?

Took us by surprise, for sure. First thought was that this is a sign of an impending Holliday move, either with Hairston as Holliday’s replacement or by packaging the both together for a bigger return.

Webb is essentially AAAA filler, but Italiano isn’t a bad prospect. Electric stuff with a bad delivery. The A’s were trying him the rotation, but throwing him in the bullpen and fasttracking him to the big leagues might not be a bad idea. He dominated low-A ball last year before struggling in high-A, but again, he’s not a bad candidate for a bullpen move.

Of course, everything depends on the PTBNL.

but it hurts.

Usually, when you get new management – they pony up and grab some exciting players – not deal off the few you have left.

Hairston was one of the most inspiring players (when he played). I’ll never forget his game winning hr’s right after he was sent here from AZ. He was cheap 1.5 mil and under control for 2.5 years. However, he is 29 and is hitting way above his average. He is often injured – so his trade value is at an all time high. Figure that Jake is gone, so we are short of arms…and our pitching coaches are miracle workers.

With no offense left – the next several months are going to be the dog days indeed.

Any suggestions?

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If you want it.

Fuck this; I’m goin’ to the bar.

Wow, we gave up a 30 year old 4th outfielder for 3 young arms. They could end up being nothing but that’s why you stockpile arms; in hopes of getting a good one. We have a ton of young bats that can play outfield coming in the next couple years. We need more young power arms.

Your service to this organization has been excellent, and you maintained a level of play so that the team was able to trade you for something valuable, so that one day, us Padre fans may enjoy a winning team again. For this, I thank you, Scotty.

Dear Kouz and Briles, you could learn something from him. Hint hint.

yes, it’s another A’s fan. Don’t worry, Beans didn’t swipe the site in trade. We’re not invading. Promise. Us A’s fans have been pondering the PTBNL. The prevailing thought is Sean Gallagher. He’s been in Beane’s doghouse, but he’s got wicked stuff. He’s on the DL, but he’s one of the A’s most promising pitchers. He was the centerpiece of the Rich Harden deal, after all. So don’t judge the trade just yet; we sure aren’t. Time will tell on this one.

hell – dump Adrian, Bell, Jake, Chris and load up on prospects.

I take this as a panic move. KT couldn’t find any takers for Kouz, doesn’t want to give up on Headley and isn’t yet ready to send Blanks down. This opens up more time in LF for Headley and more time in CF for Gwynn.

What I don’t get is how the Padres don’t even know how to rebuild. I know nobody is going to come to the games if there’s no stars around, but keeping Peavy, Young and Gonzalez around is eventually going to end with San Diego getting a lesser value in a trade during the last year of the player’s contract. I just read an article in ESPN magazine where A-Gon said “I’m just going to play out the rest of my contract with the Padres” one too many times for comfort. I hate to say it, but a firesale is in order if you’re going to call it quits on this season.

It’s terrible to see Scotty go.

teams are out of it (A’s, Padres). Wonder if the A’s plan on flipping him?
vr, Xei

I agree with goose1 that Scotty was one of my favorite guys to see come up to the plate. He has really come into his own in the field, too.

BUT, Xeifrank is also right that the Padres are long out of this race anyway, AND let’s face it: our starting rotation isn’t the most formidable group of five guys on the planet. With Peavy and Young down, the idea of facing our starting pitching doesn’t quite strike fear into the opposing team (and when he was healthy, even CY hadn’t exactly been pitching what you would call “lights-out” baseball this year). When your “Ace” is Kevin Correia—who I’ll admit has been surpirsingly sharp lately—you’ve got problems. I like Chad Guadin when he has good control, but he has a tendency to be erratic. Josh Banks is average, at best. And Josh Geer and Walter Silva just bring two words to my mind: “batting practice”.

So maybe we’ll at least get someone as our PTBNL who can really beef up our rotation. On the other hand, don’t we still have Will Inman and Matt Latos? Why can’t we give them a shot at some innings? Especially Latos, who I understand has really been pitching well in SA.

And hey…..what about Brian Lawrence??

and he pans out, then I could swallow this trade. He’s got a lot of potential, and was pitching very well in AAA before he got hurt. Once he gets better, if we get him, I’d like to see him in San Diego so he can take his lumps this year and maybe start to get good for next year.

then i will begrudgingly be ok with this trade. hell i loved scotty as much as the next guy, but we can’t keep everybody that we love until the end of time. moves need to be made from time to time, and if Gallagher is part of this deal it may help us in the long run.

if he isnt, hand me a pitchfork and torch and i’ll join you guys in the management witchhunt first thing.

and realized our current payroll is damn low now…..

The current state of affairs

trading Kouz doesn’t really save us any money right now too but he’ll be gone soon with Eckstein, Correia or LRod being the next to go.

and this trade still sucks and most people are smacking us around for making such a dumb move

yep, sounds pretty right

Logically, this might pay off in the end for the Padres, but right now, it sucks. So long, Scotty.

I cannot believe what I am seeing. I leave you bitches alone for half a season and the place falls to crap.

For everyone bitching about this move, please. Hairston put up gaudy numbers, but they were mostly counting stats. He had a tendency to swing at bad pitches around his eyes (see many ABs over this weekend) and was probably playing above his means this year. Hell, I remember last year when SI wrote an article saying that Hairston had solved our CF problem. And, another thing, the dude was injury prone (like my poor, broken robot).

So, bitching about “what we got”? Well, we got two dudes that throw in the mid 90s. You can pretty much count they number of guys in our system capable of doing that with both hands. We NEED pitching. In case people haven’t figured it out by now, pitching is kind of one of the big reasons we did well earlier this decade. Pitching and defense, and enough hitting. We never lit the world on fire with the bat, but our relievers usually kept us in games. The past two years, this has not been the case.

I disagree with those who claim that this trade will hinge on the PTBNL. I think that sweetens the pot, but I also think this was a move the team had to make. Everyone and their brother knew Scotty was going to be traded in the next few weeks (many people thought he was being showcased in CF, which is why little T played right), and KT deemed the trade to be a smart move.

As for those complaining that we “always ditch the popular guys for crap”, I present the following:

Akinori Otsuka (who was much beloved) yielded us Adrian Gonzalez and Chris Young. That trade obviously blew up in our faces.

Phil Nevin for Chan Ho Park Debatable on how much Nev was liked, but CHP was a pretty significant piece for us down the stretch after we acquired him.

Jody Gerut for Tony Gwynn Obviously it’s a bit early to judge this one, but early returns are promising.

And the hardest thing I’ve ever had to admit on this board:

Khalil Greene for pitching Somebody obviously predicted something about Khalil’s mental state and made a move that has improved the team. Luke Greggorson has pitched passably and people are high on Worrel. Yet, even with them both having been hurt this year, both of them have outperformed my beloved shortstop.

So, let’s all remember that we have jaundiced memories that only include those events that match our current moods. This team cannot afford to deal in sentimentality, and they’ve often made unpopular, but shrewd moves. We’re still waiting on how some of the other trades pan out (I think that Inman will work out and Thatcher shows fleeting flashes of competency).

Anyway, had some time for a change so I thought I’d say hey. I got a new role at work and I’m actually busy, which seriously hampers my blogging time. Between that and pursuing my MBA, there hasn’t been much time for debate. I’ll try to be a little more present in the next few months.

because the most important aspect of this trade is clearing the logjam in the OF so that the younger guys can be evaluated. When a season is on the down slide and the stock is high on a 30 year old who’s never really played a full season the time to evaluate players for next season has arrived. I really like Scott Hairston but we have to see if Venable can play. We also need to get Blanks ready to be the starter next year.

With any luck the pitchers will pan out……like they did in the Linebrink trade…..(I’ve never seen a player get optioned more than Joe Thatcher).

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Any truth to the rumor that Jeff Moorad is now trying to buy the As so he can force them to trade Hairston again?

but you have to admit that these guys we’re getting are better than Leo Rosales.