JAKE PEAVY TRADED TO THE WHITE SOX!!!
Jon Heyman has reported and XX Sports Radio has confirmed that Jake Peavy has been traded for 4 pitchers:
- Clayton Richard
- Aaron Poreda
- Adam Russell
- Dexter Carter
XX Sports Radio: Barry Axelrod (MP3) with Darren Smith
- Peavy's agent Barry Axelrod has confirmed that Peavy has been traded. Peavy agreed to the trade.
- Jake Peavy is leaving because the Padres were continually trying to trade him. Padres kept telling him he had to be more open minded. The Chicago White Sox pursued him.
XX Sports Radio: Jake Peavy Interview (MP3) with Darren Smith
- Peavy's wife woke him up at 12:20 PST from a nap to talk to his agent and he approved the trade.
- The Padres continually had meetings asking Peavy to be more open minded about leaving. The White Sox wanted him on their team and they continually pursued him. Padres told him that they had to trade him and it weighed on him. The White Sox wanted him three times more than the Padres and they wanted him even when he was hurt.
- "I'm certainly not scared to pitch in the American League."
- He's looking forward to pitching with Scott Linebrink and hopefully win a World Championship.
- He doesn't want to sit through more seasons like the last two that the Padres.
- Peavy is excited to be going to a team that is competing. The White Sox want to win.
- Peavy didn't want to spend another Winter in limbo.
- "Excited about the opportunity, love the city of Chicago"
- He will be more excited later when he's on a plane after he says goodbye to his Padres teammates.
- "The Padres organization gave me a chance as a 17 year old kid."
- Peavy will keep his house in San Diego and his boys will be in school for the next year.
- "I hope the fans understand."
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"I never thought I'd see number 51 leave... It will be bitter sweet day for Padres fans. I'm sure some that will be upset about me leaving, but they've got the, in my mind, greatest Padre of all time, at least pitcher, coming back tonight and having a nice little tribute for him, so it should be awesome"
- Was the decision to leave tought? "It's not tough, if I was a single man with no strings attached it would have been a lot easier"
- "There are no hard feelings on my end. You sign up for one thing and obviously a lot changed from when I signed my deal."
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"I've been so proud to be a Padre my whole life, but those days have come and gone now. You never know what will happen when, age 31, and I'm a free agent again and I can certainly see myself putting that uniform on again maybe one day down the road and maybe getting to finish my career the way I started it."
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"I understand what had to be done from the Padres standpoint... I can promise my fans that it's not me choosing to leave, this was an inevitable day, whether it happened now or this winter... I knew I would not put on the uniform for the Padres next year and when you know that this decision today was easier because of that."
- Peavy will pitch for the White Sox this season.
- "I gave my heart and soul to this organization and I was so happy to do that. I belong elsewhere now."
- It was made very clear to him that he had to be moved by the Padres Front Office. They moved him for financial reasons.
- "It's a deal I'd like to think is going to benefit both teams"
- "I'm not going to be shy in saying that it was made very clear to me that I had to be moved."
- Peavy alludes to a deal where he could be with his family.
- Peavy will probably cry in the Padres clubhouse, they are his family. "Life goes on. I'm a big boy about it."
- Peavy told Phillip Rivers first about the trade.
- He's excited about being able to compete again and have a chance to win and the White Sox have the ownership that can bring him a World Championship.
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Poreda, Clayton Richard, Russell and Carter
by KingsForum.net on Jul 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confirmed
3:35pm: USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, via Twitter, says the White Sox confirmed they just got Peavy. Brock agrees – Peavy approved the trade this time.
by sacpadre on Jul 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
shitty deal
Padres Baseball: Between Love and Hate
by CurbEnthusiasm on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
time will tell
but we werent gonna be able to hold onto Peavs for too much longer.
This kinda came out of no where though
Miss you Peavs
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peavy lover
DODGERS, RED SOX, YANKEES, BRONCOS, PATRIOTS and RAIDERS all suck. Especially the Dodgers.
by LJbumfool on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Later
Loser!
Don't hate the game, hate the nerds!
by thenerdhater on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
easy now
peavy was a gamer and worked his ass off for us
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
except when
he hid his injuries and tried to be a hero
Don't hate the game, hate the nerds!
by thenerdhater on Jul 31, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about SELLING LOW on a guy
Geez. And for even more pitching, too. I know the pitching in our organization is weak, but our offense still sucks, you know.
by JollyWaffle on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no position players?
wtf is up kt
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by CurbEnthusiasm on Jul 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont' sleep on KT
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Vernon Carter is a 1B/3B, not a pitcher
He’ll fit right in behind our 10 other 1Bs and 3Bs
by JollyWaffle on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
move him to right, trade kouz by aug 31, headley to 3rd, kb to left
do it
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by CurbEnthusiasm on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nvm :(
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by CurbEnthusiasm on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scratch that AGAIN
It’s DEXTER Carter, not Vernon Carter. Jbox made a boo-boo. Vernon Carter is 34 years old, so I doubt he’d be at all involved.
by JollyWaffle on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't believe you didn't know Dex was in the deal
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poreda, Clayton Richard, Russell and Carter
Don’t know much about those four pitchers.
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They pulled the old bait and switch!
Get everyone looking at the potential Bell/Gonzalez deals and then BAM – pull the trigger on Peavy!
Sigh……..it had to happen, but was it a good trade? Who knows eh? Either way you knew Peavy wasn’t going to pitch for us again after he got hurt.
by Christina on Jul 31, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Poreda is a lefty with great stuff.
Rookie. Has front of the rotation potential.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
95-96 mph fastball.
- overall prospect in the White Sox system.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
#1 overall
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as i said we have to wait and see
wierd time to trade him but it might turn out ok
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sad that we no longer have the two Alamaba boys leading our teams.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts exactly
DODGERS, RED SOX, YANKEES, BRONCOS, PATRIOTS and RAIDERS all suck. Especially the Dodgers.
by LJbumfool on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are the White Sox taking on all the salary?
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
by Padres_Hobo on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I imagine so.
Don’t think they’d have made the trade if they weren’t.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If so? What is our payroll at now?
And I’ll definitely miss Peavy. I could’ve dealt with him not talking so much and letting the team know when he wasn’t feeling well, but I was 99% satisfied with the guy playing for us. Adios Peavy. It was a good run!
"Get on board early," Black said, alluding to, what he feels, is a crop of up-and-coming players.
"I would tell those fans that we're going to play good baseball. We're going to play hard. We're going to have exciting young players..." -Bud Black
by The Kipper on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im assuming there is at least one PTBNL...
mission accomplished.
by zotzotpadre on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Just the 4.
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by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can anyone be upset with this trade when nobody knows
who these four pitchers are?
I’m going to reserve judgement for at least little while.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Jul 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im happy gettting pored and richard...
but i would have liked gordon beckham in the deal
mission accomplished.
by zotzotpadre on Jul 31, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good bye Old Buddy
I like the Pitcher, the ace with great stuff..who was afraid of nothing, believed HE could win in any situation.
I enjoyed watching everone of his starts, and love going to the games when he was pitching.
I think him moving on is the best thing for the Padres, and right now I am not to say why as I rather enjoy the good times for awhile.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The ONLY thing that makes me not as angry abou this
is that Latos is looking like our next ace to replace Peavy.
by JollyWaffle on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake
If you love something, let it go.
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm excited to see Poreda pitch.
Hope he goes right into the rotation.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think he will...
mission accomplished.
by zotzotpadre on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been in Chicago's bullpen.
Have to see.
Love we shine like a burning star
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by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be a free agent in 3 years and he'd like to come back.
Maybe we’ll be good by now
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And willing to spend multi-million dollars on a free agent!!!
Oh wait, we’re not the Red Sox?
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by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im happy with this
"I suggest more bike" ~KSK
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by justdave on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
rotation
Cy
Latos
Poreda
Richards
Gallagher
(Correia/Stauffer)
i can live with it
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If we trade Adrian in the off-season like I think
it becomes
Buchholz
Latos
Poreda
Richards
Gallagher
(Stauffer/Correia)
That’s an uber-talented rotation.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Cy?
plus we’d prolly get another ML ready starter like a Bowden, depth baby, depth
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really a CY fan anymore.
He’s never shown the ability he did since he first half of 2007. Plus he has yet to make it through an entire season without spending significant stretches on the DL. Even when he’s healthy, I’m not impressed.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
but come opening day he’ll be in our rotation for his experience alone
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Done reflecting
I don’t know much about the prospects, but Peavey needed to go.
A few things bothered me about the ace I love to watch pitch.
First, I felt like his elbow/shoulder was a ticking time bomb, his delivery mechnacis were less than to be desire, and I was waiting for the slider that he threw that would send him to Dr. Andrews.
Him or his agent have been disingenous to the Padres ever since the he signed the extension. The day he signed the biggest contract ever for the Padres, at the season ticket holders meeting he made sure to remind everyone did such a charity case to take such a small deal.
Now he said he was tired of being offered to be Traded!! You have the no trade clause. You are the one to say the Padres were beneath you. You are the one who ask to be traded.
If you really wanted to stay here you could have told KT way back when. “Look I signed a contract to be the Franchise Player, and I am not going to waive my no trade clause any time soon.” That would have been the end of the Peavy trade rumors.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we really need an un-rec button
i don’t think i have seen a post more off the mark in my time here.
552
by wrveres on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peavy has been and always will be a dbag. He never acted like a top paid athelete since he signed his big extension. Great pitcher, but that was it.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is he a great pitcher?
He’s always getting injured and he has not pitched well the last 2 years.
He is not worth 15 mil with a salary going nowhere but up.
This was another good trade by KT.
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
by planetjeffy on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is a great pitcher, but his performance over the last two years were not worth the value of the contract and defeinetly not worth what he thinks he should be getting. Now these could be nagging injuries or signs of things to come. But overall the Padres can’t afford to pay someone that much (relative) if they only make 25-30 starts a year.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we worked his ass of for us
straight up gamer, and hes still young man you cant ask everyone to have a 40 year old Greg Maddux’s personality
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only part of the above post i agree with is the injury factor
i always felt like his elbow was going to explode one day…
but i dont hate on his attitude… dude was a gamer.
"I suggest more bike" ~KSK
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by justdave on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he is young…he is a 27 year old multi-millonair, and he acts like a highschool student. Sure he is a gamer, but be a professional.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great attitude but...
he has been pitching injured over the last 2 – 3 years. He either comes back too early or doesn’t tell the trainers that something is wrong. By that time he is a real mess. Some times, when the injuries start happening – it’s over. Same goes for CY. I could see him (and others) moved in August.
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
by planetjeffy on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he could have some class
Seriously at the Season Ticket Holder event, he was such an ass to all of the people there and the organization. He may have been a little tipsy or something, but at least try not to act like you are doing US a huge favor by having the organization give you a huge contract.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To his credit -
He did take the SD discount to stay here. Moores meltdown fcuked up everything.
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
by planetjeffy on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he really
I know that is what his agent keeps telling him and the media. But if you look at the contract it was pretty high in value compared to what other arbitration eligble extensions were getting.
He was comparing what the thought he should be making to free agent extension like Zambrano, Clemens, Santana and others were getting. But compare it to the Halladay, Web and others, and he had higher per year average.
Here is somehting interesting. He had the 15th Largest avg salary contract ever in the History of baseball, but there are 7 repeats on the list. So that makes him the 8th Highest play player based on average salary.
Those ahead of him:
Arod
Barry
Roger Clemens
Manny
CC
Johan
Teixera
Miguel Cabrera
Jeter
V. Wells (arbotros contract)
Sosa
Zito (arobtors)
Ichiro
Sure you could argue that he should have gotten more than Zito, but that was a terrible contract, and it was Free Agent, not an arbitration buy out contract.
Only Ryan Howard had a bigger per year, and that was not a contract but arbitration for an reigning MVP and Home Run leader.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the list
Roger Clemens, $28,000,022 (2007)
Alex Rodriguez, $27,500,000 (2008-17)
Alex Rodriguez, $25,200,000 (2001-10)
CC Sabathia, $23,000,000 (2009-15)
Johan Santana, $22,916,667 (2008-13)
Manny Ramirez, $22,500,000 (2009-10)
Mark Teixeira, $22,500,000 (2009-16)
Roger Clemens, $22,000,022 (2006)
Manny Ramirez, $20,000,000 (2001-08)
Miguel Cabrera, $19,037,500 (2008-15)
Derek Jeter, $18,900,000 (2001-10)
Carlos Zambrano, $18,300,000 (2008-12)
Andruw Jones, $18,100,000 (2008-09)
Barry Bonds, $18,000,000 (2002-06)
Roger Clemens, $18,000,000 (2005)
Ryan Howard, $18,000,000 (2009-11)
Torii Hunter, $18,000,000 (2008-12)
Sammy Sosa, $18,000,000 (2002-05)
Ichiro Suzuki, $18,000,000 (2008-12)
Vernon Wells, $18,000,000 (2008-14)
Barry Zito, $18,000,000 (2007-13)
Jake Peavy, $17,333,333 (2010-12)
Jason Giambi, $17,142,857 (2002-08)
Jeff Bagwell, $17,000,000 (2002-06)
Carlos Beltran, $17,000,000 (2005-11)
I really don’t see the Huge discount Peavy took
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its structured to where it wasnt huge on the front end
but boomed at teh end of the contract, when we were likely to move him
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it still money
that is going to be paid to him, and if its defferred he gets 8% interests per year on that money.
It was not a raw deal at all.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got him at a huge discoiunt
The Sox are going to do the heavy lifting.
Everyone knew this was going to happen and
when the payroll was cut to half – it was a done deal.
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
by planetjeffy on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sox are paying the whole thing
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
show me
this huge discount. Because I use to believe it to. Then I started to look at contracts of other players in his situation, and you find out this is not true at all.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like a SD discount to me...
2003 San Diego Padres $305,000
2004 San Diego Padres $350,000
2005 San Diego Padres $750,000
2006 San Diego Padres $2,500,000
2007 San Diego Padres $4,750,000
2008 San Diego Padres $6,500,000
This yr 11 mil – which the Sox are picking up 1/2
while he is on the DL. Next yr – 15 mil
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
by planetjeffy on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
2003-2006 are salary control per the cba. 2007-2009 were arbitration years. He would of made the same with the Yankees red sox cubs etc. T
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 7:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This is absolutely true
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 1, 2009 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poreda
Started for the Sox AAA club on Thursday.
by friarfanatic on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope he gets up to the big club soon.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh he will
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by CurbEnthusiasm on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the pen or rotation?
how is our rotation gonna round out for te rest of the year
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO MORE FUCKING GEER
That’s all I care about.
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hes already out for Mujica
i guess Richards will fill in for that start
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope. Please no Mujica. Good relief, bad for starter.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah don't see that happening anymore
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No more LeBlanc either
Thank god for that
by TheAxManCometh on Jul 31, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poreda is a starter.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes been pitching out of the pen in Chicago
hasnt he
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Some decisions will have to be made.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are the Padres
aren’t we?
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he starts in the minors.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we’re kind of the minors…
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Told all you fools
knew it was happening soon. Bell is up next.
by soulSD on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Sullivan: Padres win. They did well for themselves with a pitcher who isn’t as great as his reputation.
Dan Szymborski: I really like the deal from the Padre perspective. The market has kind of priced Peavy into being overpaid and he is on the DL. And as I said, I really like Poreda.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am glad we can all finally say that. It has been bugging me for the last two years.
He went from super underatted to over rated as soon as he won the CY.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
an overrated CY Young winner?
Ill say i like the trade, and it was necessary, but Peavy was a very good pitcher
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the year
after he won the CY, he pitched good, but not awesome, which was his reputation.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I read the news in the back of a flippin’ taxi at 3am last night on the way home from work! At first, I thought SHIT! It was like being dumped by e-mail, and then…
It’s all well and good and very noble to try and push through injuries but it doesn’t work and you end up hurting the team, he’s proven this to himself! But that country boy alabama testosterone (which clearly drains the blood from the brain) keeps him going.
He had some good/great years here but has consistently struggled in pressure situations. He parties like an animal and thinks he can cruise on his talent.
I’m hoping that the combination of moving to the AL and not being the #1 starter and all around hero will help him step up to the plate and be the pitcher he could/should have been here.
"If the Padres lose (again) and no -one is watching, does it count in the standings?" ...anonymous confucious guy
by ABY on Aug 1, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird part in the interview
where he says that it will be a bitter sweet day for Padres fans but at least they’ll get to see Hoffman pitch tonight. WTF?
by jbox on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he said we are going to lose (or win in the bottom of the 9th, off a triple for Gwynn Jr.).
I don’t think he thinks before he speaks.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's from alabama
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by justdave on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodbye Jake
It’s become so in to hate on him, but I liked the guy and I will miss him. Hope it was a good deal, don’t really follow minor leagues so I’m going to trust that others know better than me. But I will miss seeing #44 sling it for the Padres. Later bro. I, for one, will miss you.
Unapologetic Trevor Hoffman apologist.
by sdgaucho on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Discount For San Diego
So here is the Discount that Peavy so unselfishly took for us. Then immedietly complain about it to the Season Ticket holders. For this discount we gave him a full no trade clause;
Starting pitchers
The highest-paid active starting pitchers, by average annual value:
CC Sabathia, $23,000,000 (2009-15)
Johan Santana, $22,916,667 (2008-13)
Carlos Zambrano, $18,300,000 (2008-12)
Barry Zito, $18,000,000 (2007-13)
Jake Peavy, $17,333,333 (2010-12)
A.J. Burnett, $16,500,000 (2009-13)
Jason Schmidt, $15,666,667 (2007-09)
Derek Lowe, $15,000,000 (2009-12)
Roy Oswalt, $14,600,000 (2007-11)
Mark Buehrle, $14,000,000 (2008-11)
Roy Halladay, $13,333,333 (2008-10)
Ryan Dempster, $13,000,000 (2009-12)
Chris Carpenter, $12,700,000 (2008-11)
Bronson Arroyo, $12,500,000 (2009-10)
Kevin Millwood, $12,000,000 (2006-10)
Now I think Peavy is better than Zito and Zambrano, but both of those contracts were free agent extensions and not buying out arbitration eligible years. Which is what happen with Jake, we could have renewed his contracts, then gone to arbitration where he would have gotten $4-$8 a year most likely.
Now he did sign with a team that he thought would have a bigger payroll, so in his defense he didn’t want this situation. But situations change. My neighbor didn’t think he would lose his job and his house, but that is what happen.
When you are the highest paid person in the organization, you have a responsibility to act like a professional. Jake is a gamer, but he kept making us feel that he thought he was above the organization. If he wanted to be traded, becaues of the payroll situation, fine, but act like the high paid executive you are not like the star athelete in a high-school.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake Peavy, $17,333,333 (2010-12)
2010-12
by 1210pads on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
and when he signed it, only the Zambrano and the Clemens contract were in place. He was buying out years in the front end and raising those averages up when he would have been paid relatively cheap and adding the third highest salary for a pitcher at the time. He propobably truely thought he was giving us a huge discount since by 2011 (his first full year of free agency) everyone would be getting $25M a year contracts.
So the allusion is that he took a huge discount, but the facts do not support it at all. At the time they may felt like he should have just waited for his arbitration to be over and walk like Zito did and get overpaid by someone else, but you could not count on salaries going up like they were. There are only so many $150M contracts that can be dolled out and eventually there will be no suitors.
As it turns out, Peavy got the better end of the deal. No matter how you slice it.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trade....
Could be extremely beneficial for us. Richards and Poreda are both Big Hard throwing lefties…we have been starving for that for a long time. Both are top prospects.
Dexter Carter may be the steal of the deal…very young, leading the minors in K’s. I think we all knew that Peavy was gone…this was a solid deal.
If we can get one or 2 outfielders, we could be a very solid club.
by Love The Russians77 on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We need a 2B and a catcher
And we still have two third basemen…. and first basemen…
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by Axion on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soooooo
trade one of the 3Bs and the 1B in the minors for a good catcher. Go from there.
by TheAxManCometh on Jul 31, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not one effing bat!!!
Not one! No Beckham, no Tyler Flowers, no Dayan Viciedo .. nothing ..
A bunch of “possibilities” for the mound, that’s it.
Its fricking Petco park, you could get just about anybody not related to Josh Geer and they could pitch here successfully …
this is such friggin BS! … A 22 year old Pitching a A ball .. a 27 year old reliever … thats what we got ..
and then … and then we have this joker, (i’ll with hold what i really want to say cus i don’ want another warning) who has an obvious hard on to slam Jake Peavy any chance he gets, cherry picking contract years …. for what ?? He can’t even wait, just needs to gets his kicks in ASAP …
where the hell is the ignore button … this sooo effing sucks.
552
by wrveres on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ignore button is the little X in the top right of your browser, or red dot on the left depending on your OS
or you could use your eyes to skip over comments. everyone is entitled to their opinion.
by 'Eaters on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Facts
I did not cherry pick any years. Those are facts that are reported to Cots Contracts site. If you have a probelm with them take it up with him. I am just not a delisional fan that believes everything a player says or his agent (or an organization says). Look at the contracts all of them and present your case.
What I think of Jake is my opinion, but the contracts are documented facts. But I have seen him talk several times and have met him personally 3 times. I have my opinion.
Also its not like I have come out of left feild and just joined this site, been here for many years. Also we have had season tickets since 1971 season. So I have been and will be here for the long haul.
Is this franchise better without Jake. No. Is this franchise better off without Jakes bargain basement contract that every other team thinks is high…probably, time will tell, but unless he pitched like he did in 2005 and 2007 and not like 2006, 2008, 2009 it was an anchor around the neck of this franchise. But of course none of that is to blame on Jake. He is perfect.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sad to see Jake go,
but it was inevitable, and at least he didn’t go to the Dodgers (or any other NL team for that matter), so I don’t have to necessarily hate him now.
Only thing that ticks me off about this trade deadline is that I didn’t think our PITCHING was necessarily the problem. Considering our original starting 4 (Peavy, Young, Baek, Hill) have been out of commission for so long, I didn’t think the fill-in guys have been all that bad (except for Geer) and our bullpen gets it done more often than not. I thought what we should be going after at the deadline were HITTERS! With some decent offense on our side, said pitchers would probably have much better W-L records right now!
Also, I’m glad we still have Gonzo and Heat sticking around.
by Mr. Meadows on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah over the last 1/3 of season...
I guess the “fill in” guy for Baek in Mat Latos will do….sigh..
by texpadre on Jul 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're not all minor leaguers.
Richards has been starting for the Sox all season. Poreda started the year in the minors, and has been pitching out of their bullpen.
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by maestro876 on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How many starts do you think Peavy will make this season?
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by Axion on Jul 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
probably none
It’s an odd deal for the White Sox. Peavy and his agent have told the White Sox that he is very doubtful to pitch this season.
by brewer090 on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap
@SI_JonHeyman: #padres almost pulled off triple play. too bad gonzo & bell for loney, martin, mcdonald, dewitt, dejesus fell apart.
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by Axion on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i would refuse
to root for russell martin
DODGERS, RED SOX, YANKEES, BRONCOS, PATRIOTS and RAIDERS all suck. Especially the Dodgers.
by LJbumfool on Aug 1, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2010
The weird/scary thing is that we only have about $12-$18M obligated for next year. I hope this means we will sign our top picks and get a quality bat in the line up.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
by Ron Mexico on Jul 31, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They get
20 – 25 mil from revenue sharing.
Everyone gets to line their pockets.
I think that is their plan.
Oh and a new TV contract after ’11 season.
I see 2 more yrs of suckiness and then
watch out.
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
by planetjeffy on Jul 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where can I find those numbers?
How much each team pays or receives in revenue sharing money.
Or even just the numbers for the Padres?
Thanks
by strummer on Aug 1, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox fans perspective
I dont know if you guys want it but i follow the sox minor leaguers pretty extensively and maybe i can give you a lil insight on the guys you got…
Poreda-definitely a hard thrower with a good slider but control and secondary pitches have led many to question if he can stick in a rotation. has middle relief or closer ability. Posesses potential number 2 stuff if he can gain better control and work on secondary pitches
Clayton Richard-projects as a 3-4 starter with average stuff. Never was a big prospect but surprised a lot of people at times this year. Should play well at petco and is currently on quite a streak
Dex Carter-Good low a pitcher with an average fastball and possible plus curve. Leads minors in strikeouts but has stayed at low a all year whereas fellow old dominion teammate dan hudson has propelled up to aa with similar stats. If he can find a decent changeup to go with the curve he can start but if he cannot he projects as a middle relief guy. Definitely has the upside to be a good starter but hes a way off.
Adam Russel-decent reliever that looks like a throw in. Nothing too special
This being said i bet all of these guys will be a lil better in sd than they could have been in homer friendly us cellular, especially carter who gets a lot of flyouts. I think its a risky move for the sox so i dont know who got the better deal just yet.
by The Anti-Larry on Jul 31, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Another Sox fan perspective
Richard’s the prize of this trade. Good sinking fastball he can push into the mid 90’s. Secondary pitches coming along, but still below par for a major leaguer. Great pitching mentality, like to attack hitters and work quickly.
Poreda’s got a long way to go to be a starter or reliever in the big leagues. His fastball isn’t as good as advertised, and the few times I’ve seen him pitch for the White Sox it hasn’t fooled opposing hitters. To my eyes, he’s yet to develop a secondary pitch beyond a “show-me” or “get-me-over” slider. Struck me as more of a “thrower” than a pitcher, and I think will likely end up in relief. Scarily enough, the few times I’ve seen him pitched he seemed to become afraid of throwing strikes after hitters connected with his fastball, which lead me to believe that he’s used to his fastball alone being enough to succeed in the minor leagues. I could be wrong, but I think he got a rude awakening with the White Sox that everyone in the major leagues can hit a fastball, no matter which hand you throw it with or how much it sinks, if that’s all a pitcher has to offer.
Carter’s a live arm in A ball who leads the minor leagues in strikeouts, using a well located but undominating fastball and a good curveball. I’d put at least a few pitching prospects of the White Sox ahead of him, namely Dan Hudson, and maybe a few guys in the lower minors or ‘09 draftees. Carter reminds me too much of two other pitchers in the White Sox minor league system to lead the minor leagues in strikouts in the last three years, namely Gio Gonzalez and Brandon McCarthy. Both are curveball pitchers with non-dominating fastballs, and neither Gonzalez or McCarthy have yet succeeded in the major leagues. Both McCarthy and Gonzalez, though, possessed other pitches besides the fastball and curveball, of which the same cannot be said of Carter. High upside, but also the possibility that he’s already reached that upside in low A ball.
Russell is fungible, but maybe the Padres can turn him into a good reliever.
Any one of these guys could have success, but none is a finished product or a sure thing. The only player that I predict I will miss of this quartet is Richard. Of course, I could be wildly, wildly wrong about any of them, especially if Poreda reaches his ceiling with the Padres or Carter if I’m underrating his ability. And all four seem injury resistant, which tends to be the case with all White Sox pitchers, which is another reason I like this trade: I see a high probability that Peavy’s injury problems are going to be a thing of the past.
Padres fans on Gaslamp ball seem to be happy with the trade, and so do White Sox fans. That’s pretty rare. I’d have made this trade if I were sitting in Kenny Williams’s chair.
by Stealfirstbase on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who are all these 315+ people voting?
WHERE ARE YOU?? SHOW YOURSELVES!
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 31, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3 of the 4 guys have major league experience
3 of the guys the Padres got in return for Peavy have major league experience.
Just wondering if you are paying attention?
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by websoulsurfer on Jul 31, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
consensus is that White Sox got best of deal
we Padres fans will be hoping these guys pan out
I be losing the faith quickly
the blog I saw yesterday in Twitter baseball brief says we are now the San Diego Pirates
this might top the Fire Sale days of Wiener Werner as the worst days in Pads history
http://mrsportsblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/its-official-the-san-diego-pirates/
by cucamonga on Aug 1, 2009 12:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that
we traded away some really good talent over the years, guys who had hall of fame careers (Ozzie Smith), solid careers (Sheffield and McGriff come to mind from the 93 sale), and others who had better moments (Joe Carter) … I don’t think Peavy = that enormous sale. That’s way too much of a stretch to be remotely true. Trade one guy when his value is almost at its peak, and it’s a fire sale? Really?
by Lancers46 on Aug 1, 2009 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's just trying to promote his "blog"
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Aug 1, 2009 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been MIA today and I know nobody is waiting for my opinion
But here’s my thoughts.
Peavy wasn’t doing s___ for us this year. He isn’t earning his money. We effectively turned a multimillion dollar sinkhole into a Josh Geer replacement and some prospects. Hooray.
Oh year, I guess Peavy would have come back next year. But, no guarantee that he’d be able to be the Cy Young caliber pitcher. So, we trade in that uncertainty for the uncertainty of (count ‘em) 4 quality pitching prospects (Poreda being the highest ceiling guy and the most likely to come close to producing like Peavy used to) AND they free up money to do something (pessimists will say they will do nothing, but I refuse to be like that, life’s too short).
I know there were no bats, but the bats are coming. Padres have some guys that will fill those roles over the next few years. I’m glad we held onto Adrian because trading him would have crippled the offense (even more than it is) for years. There was no replacement for him on the way and I really, really think Blanks will be a good outfielder. Jake on the other hand may be able to be replaced by guys like Latos, Gallagher and Poreda. I think we’ll be okay there.
And, of course, it’s hard to be down on the Padres with them playing like they are. I definitely had fun watching the last four games and I hope the rest of you did too.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 1, 2009 2:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Wonk.
I like the trade for those reasons as well.
Not sure where the other poster got the idea that the White Sox got the better deal—most opinions I’ve read think that we made out great for Peavy.
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by maestro876 on Aug 1, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the deal
This is a deal that had to be made, Peavy is my second favorite padre player all time, second only to Hoffy. This is a good deal that will benefit both teams, I like Richards, he has really good potential and I’m very happy that he became part of the deal, and of course, maybe the main prize, has to be Aaron Poreda, he looks solid and looks to be the real deal, unlike other WS prospects (Anderson, Fields) Of course, it remains to be seen but I am very pleased with this deal and something tells me that it will benefit the padres as well as it will benefit the white sox.
by MrPoe on Aug 1, 2009 5:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake's perspection is that he's a gamer but is he really?
Its hard to be gamer when you’re not pitching in games. He never developed a change-up (as he was repeatedly asked to do) that would save his arm (ie less injuries) and make him a much more reliable and consistent pitcher. As a gamer with electric stuff, he’s suppose to attack hitters like a Lincecum or Johan but the Jake I saw was more likely to nibble at corners and run up huge pitch counts trying to work around a batter and strike them out (the anti-Maddux.) And let’s face it, he pitched worst (just like Hoffy) when it mattered most. 163th game, playoffs, World Baseball Classics (plural), All-Star games…
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Aug 3, 2009 8:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i failed to realize
how serious the pre-season WBC and meaningless All-Star game were. THat changes my entire perspective on Peavy then
by 1210pads on Aug 3, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game for the playoffs
That was meaningless as well. If you haven’t noticed, the Padres don’t play meaningful game because they suck (even with Peavy.) Do you really want me to find the quotes where Peavy says they are the most meaningful games he’s pitched because he’s wearing the flag and USA on his uniform?
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Aug 3, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here you go, from the horse's mouth:
“This is a playoff atmosphere,” U.S. pitcher Jake Peavy said. “Everything is on the line, you’re doing everything you can to win and advance in this tournament, and playing for your country just takes that through the roof. It’s as good an atmosphere as it gets, I believe.”
AP Story, Sunday, March 08, 2009
Team USA will send Jake Peavy of the San Diego Padres to the mound.
“This is probably the coolest thing I’ve ever done on a baseball field,” the 24-year-old right-hander said. “To be with this group of guys, have a chance to represent my country in America’s pastime, I can’t put into words what it means to me.”
AP Story, March 7, 2006
You either believe all the gritty gamer stuff that comes out of Jake’s mouth or think its hogwash, but you can’t have it both ways when it goes poorly.
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Aug 3, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im sure he did want to win
but you cant expect him to be in form that early in the spring, in fact very few of the mlb players at the WBC were on top of their game that early as is evident by the failure of teams like the U.S. and Dominican in comparison to Japan, Korea, and Cuba
by 1210pads on Aug 3, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs



















