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GM Towers: "Hate to lose, hate to lose the way that we do"

XX Sports Radio: Kevin Towers Interview (MP3) with Darren Smith

  • Padres been getting decent pitching but have had problems scoring. It will be nice to have David Eckstein and Henry Blanco back.
  • At the end of the year hopefully the Padres will get Young and Peavy back.
  • "Hate to lose, hate to lose the way that we do".  If the Padres weren't suffering from injuries than they would be performing better than they are.  "I'm sure it's not fun for the fans".  The Padres are going through the growing pains.
  • "Hopefully we can find something positive here in the upcoming months to give of us a little bit of momentum going into the off season, because this feels a lot like Groundhog Day and a lot like last year.
  • Towers says the injuries are a result of "Two years of bad luck", it's not the fault of trainers or team doctors.  It's nothing they could have prevented.
  • Addressing his quotes in the UT, Towers thinks Adrian Gonzalez is at the point where he is frustrated as well.  He's at the stage where he wants to win.  Adrian looks at the young players and talk of Peavy moving and realizing that there isn't a chance of winning in the foreseeable future.
  • It's highly unlikely anything will happen before the deadline in terms of trading Adrian.  At the end of the season Towers will sit down with Moorad, Garfinkel and Black to see what they need to do to turn the team around.  They might talk about locking him up in a long term deal, but they'll discuss that at the end of the season.
  • Even if Adrian Gonzalez thinks it's best to move him, he'd have to realize the backlash the Padres would face moving such a popular player. 
  • To convince Adrian to stay in a long term deal, they'd have to show him the talent of the young players.  In the next two months those guys will have to start producing.  It will give the fans and Towers some hope.
  • Kyle Blanks will probably start playing a lot more. Towers talked to Black about it after the game.  They will make a move in the next couple days when Eckstein comes back.  More than likely it will be an outfielder and you'll see Blanks out there more often.  The move will more than likely be a younger player with options.
  • The PTBNL in the Scott Hairston trade will be named the last week in July.  There were two players they identified that they would choose from.  The one they are leaning towards has been mentioned (Sean Gallagher).
  • Cla Meredith was passed up by other guys in the bullpen (Mojica, Gregerson and Adams).  He wasn't pitching in a significant role.  His velocity dropped from 90mph to 84mph.  He didn't have the sink he once had.  Lefties were hitting .300 against him.  He was arbitration eligible next year and he'd still probably be a 11th or 12th pitcher.  With Edgar Gonzalez going down they thought Oscar Salazar would give them a right handed bat off the bench and be more valuable for the team.
  • Towers responds to Krasovic's assertion that players had tuned out the hitting coach. "Being named a hitting coach for the San Diego Padres in Petco Park is literally a death sentence.  It has not worked out for many  that have been here." There is a huge age difference between Jimmy Lefebvre and the players.  The players need to look in the mirror. "If they tune him out than they are evidently not tuning in the right person right now because it's not working either."
  • Towers says that Moorad and Garfinkel are evaluating all the Padres employees.
  • Tony Gwynn and Everth Cabrera are two of the better players and they didn't come from the Padres system. 
  • On Mat Latos: "Liked it, liked the stuff, nice to see 98 pop up there on the scoreboard the first pitch of the game."  He probably could have gotten out of the game with just the solo home run.  The first start was a good one.  He thinks he'll be better against the Nationals.  He'll have a pitch count of 75 to 90.  He has the ability to throw 90 pitches in 7 innings.  Keeping a player from doubling their innings from one year to the next makes sense to Towers.
  • The bullpen has been the best part of the club this year.  They just need to figure out how to score some runs.  "We're not doing it now, so we're going to have to find a way."
  • Things are moving slow with Donovan Tate.  His agent is working to sign other players first.  The local area scout is keeping in contact with Tate.
  • Towers isn't getting many calls because they don't have many active players that are playing well.

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...Moorad and Garfinkel are evaluating all the Padres employees

Are they running the Padres already?

If so, pony up some cash and get the
payroll back up to 80 mil.

"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."

Groucho Marx

by planetjeffy on Jul 23, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

moorad made the lame

its the economies fault excuse. and made it sound like that on top of not pursuing a higher payroll he is making cuts. Also he sounded rather pessemistic about being able to sign Tate, but likes that we’d get a make up pick in the next draft.

Yipee

by 1210pads on Jul 23, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He basically gave an unsure answer

Part of it is the economy
part of it is ticket sales (and darren remarked that it’s a chicken and egg problem which moorad agreed)
an part of it is that they haven’t run the numbers yet.
Let’s not get too apocalyptic

by TheAxManCometh on Jul 23, 2009 2:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not

Don’t piss away $40m because you want to feel good about the number. Don’t forget, last year’s team is the one they’re trying to improve on, the one with the $73m payroll.

There’s no amount of veteran/free agent spending, totaling $80m, that will make this a winning team again. Rebuild the foundation, THEN add your expensive add-ons, don’t just add $40m worth of shit because it’s a big number. Jim Edmonds for $8m again, anyone?

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by Axion on Jul 24, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Jul 23, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eck, maybe

Blanco? Does he even have bats?

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by Axion on Jul 24, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did the A's trade for Hairston?

He hasn’t been playing much.

by soulSD on Jul 23, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like he has.

I’m in A’s country and every game I’ve watched he seems to be playing and doing fairly well.

by sacpadre on Jul 23, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

growing pains?
“Hate to lose, hate to lose the way that we do”. If the Padres weren’t suffering from injuries than they would be performing better than they are. “I’m sure it’s not fun for the fans”. The Padres are going through the growing pains.

It’s not growing pains. It’s stabbed in the back, kicked to the curb and left for dead pains. You have to have some talent for it to be growing pains. Most of these kids would not be major leaguers except for the fact they are in the San Diego system. Most of these quotes from KT sound as if he is tired of this and would bolt as fast AGon given the chance.

"Never retreat, never surrender" - Mark Grant

by wishfulthinking on Jul 23, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Battered Fans Syndrome?

I was talking to my brother the other day about how sick I am of the Padres’ commitment to their fan base. I thought about all the apologies I’ve made for the team over the years, and how the more I think about it, the more I sound like a battered wife. Not to diminish the real problem of domestic violence, but it seemed like a valid analogy give the recent state of the Padres and their reaction to their fans. So I looked online at some of the reasons battered women stay in bad relationships and found the following:

Feelings of Guilt:
Sometimes we may believe that our husband is “sick” and/or needs our help; the idea of leaving can thus produce feelings of guilt.

Promises of Reform:
Our abuser promises it will never happen again; we want to believe this is true.

Love for Spouse:
Most people enter a relationship for love, and that emotion does not simply disappear easily or in the face of difficulty. After a battering, our abuser is often extremely penitent. Because our self-esteem is so low following the incident, the apologies and promises of reform are often perceived as the end of the abuse.

Damn. That sounds like the life of a Padres fan.
Feelings of Guilt? Yeah, I’m a life long Padres fan. I don’t welcome the notion of giving up on my team.
Promises of Reform: This is beginning to be the team motif
Love for Spouse/Team: Check.

The problem I’ve seen lately though, is the same thing you see in any abusive relationship. If the guy can just slap around the woman and she’ll come back every time, where is his incentive to change? Answer: It doesn’t exist. The same seems true for the organization. Every time they produce a crap product, there we are, first in line to buy it. Sure, we bitch and complain, but we always come back for more because we aren’t" fair-weather fans".

At the end of the day Moorad, Moores, and company are business men. If they can still turn a profit while putting out mediocre team, then why do they care about changing business as usual? Sure, playoff berths and a WS win would help the organization immensely. However, at this stage in the game, it seems like that would just be a welcomed outcome, rather than the goal of the organization. If AG can find a better team to play for, more power to him. I’d love to see him stay, but that is for purely selfish reasons. It seems fairly obvious that the Padres aren’t really committed to their fans or even their players at this point.

Just my 2 cents.

by sacpadre on Jul 23, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My pops

and I have pretty much decided to not renew our ticket package next year. Put the money towards a Chargers packet this season.

This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman

by Padres_Hobo on Jul 23, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

But,
but most owners don’t buy baseball teams to make money (they don’t want to bleed money). they are usually very rich men that like the idea of owning a team and its there toy. There are some exceptions but I don’t think the Padres have had an owner that has use the team as a charge card. Usually its the opposite where they have had to put money into the team and hope they see themselves repaid later. They usually only make money when they sell the team, not while they own the team.

This was the cased with Moores. The Padres while may have been operating in the slight black each year (or negative, its hard to quantify how much money they put into the development systems, but most fans forget all the operational costs with the franchise), they did have cash flows issues. Each year the Moores would have to float a lot of the operational costs out of their own accounts until the cash started to come in. This is where the divorce had major impacts given that during a divorce all most all the assets are frozen by the lawyers. Now the Padres all of a sudden had to operate within there monthly cashflow, and pay off ball park dept, staff salaries, signing bonuses, minor league costs, etc. even when they didn’t have any cash coming in.

I don’t think the organization wanted to abuse fans, I think they either mismanaged, had some bad luck, or did not have the aptitude to succeed. (probably a combination of all of them).

So I think this is more of a case of ineptitude than it is of apathy or trying to turn a quick buck.

"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

by Ron Mexico on Jul 23, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be good for some of us to have an affair

Root for another team. Sure the Padres will always be the main team, but it can be fun to get caught up in following a team that actually has a chance to do something.
Personally I think the Twins are a fun team to follow.
For some reason, this is much more common in football. Fans have secondary teams especially when their football team really sucks. I remember getting real caught up in the Bills-Giants Super Bowl run back when the Chargers were bad in the early 1990s.

good post Sacpadre

I was going to dig out my old alcoholics anonymous 12 step book and make a Padre analogy, but I think it is in a stack of books underneath the empty cases of beer.

by strummer on Jul 23, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've been wearing an angels baseball t-shirt all day

just wanted to experience that winning feeling

"Never retreat, never surrender" - Mark Grant

by wishfulthinking on Jul 23, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Following Another Team is Permissable

if it’s an American League team. Of course it can’t be the Seattle Mariners, them being our fiercest inter-league rival, and all.

http://avengingjackmurphy.blogspot.com/

I don't agree with a word you're saying but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" ~Patrick Henry

"Shut the fuck up Donnie, you're out of your element!" ~Walter Sobchak from The Big Lebowski

by AIChief on Jul 23, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a good plan

Plus I don’t have to return my Yanks gear now, lol.

by PadsFan09 on Jul 23, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my second team too

of course i live in New York and have a family full of yankee fans except my late grandma who was a brooklyn fan until they left then a met fan and then a padre fan when she moved to SD

Fire Bud Black!

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 23, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I go to school in NY

So it’s either the Yankees, the Mets, or the people who sold their souls to the devil….I mean the Red Sox.

The Mets = (bottom of) NL East = play the Padres often.

I think since the trainwreck known as the ‘98 Series, we’ve had one homestand against the Yankees.
Which sounds mighty good to me….we’d lose 120 games in the AL East haha

by PadsFan09 on Jul 24, 2009 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heath Bell listed among top 5 trade targets...

No surprise here, but the two-year systematic disassembling of Moore’s Petco promise continues:

"Never retreat, never surrender" - Mark Grant

by wishfulthinking on Jul 23, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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