Tony Gwynn Jr. traded to Padres for Jody Gerut!
by jbox on May 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
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PrintAfter hearing rumors of this trade, I just asked Tom Krasovic and he hadn't heard anything:
Tom Krasovic: No. He's been available, on and off, for more than a year. So I doubt he would be expensive.
At virtually the same time Corey Brock broke the news:
Padres trade today, only it's not Peavy. The Padres are getting OF Tony Gwynn Jr. from the Brewers for Jody Gerut. More later.
[Note by jbox, 05/21/09 12:21 PM PDT ]
Tom Krasovic: That's accurate. Gwynn Jr. will roam Petco Park. Gerut wasn't bad, but Gwynn Jr. should cover a bit more ground.
Tom Krasovic: Scouts like his defense a little better. Gerut's a more powerful and accomplished hitter who was off to a poor start.
[Note by jbox, 05/21/09 2:39 PM PDT ]
Tony Gwynn Jr. will be in uniform tonight vs Giants and will wear number 18.
[Note by jbox, 05/21/09 2:40 PM PDT ]
Gerut never seemed to play as bad as his number might show. He made some great plays in the outfield this week. One he turned his back on the ball and stole a home run by leaping over the outfield wall. Later in that same game he dove in on a shallow fly ball. Seemed to hit the ball hard on a line.
The only thing I really know about Tony Gwynn Jr. is that he sprung from the loins of Tony the Gwynn and that's really enough for me.
I'm not sure if it will make a whole lot of difference this season which player we have in the line up. Gwynn's younger, less injury prone and supplies his own batting coach.
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Welcome home Tony
Maybe the Padres can use him full time as a lead off hitter
by TheAxManCometh on May 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions
Can't help but feel this
is a PR move more than a baseball one
Gotta be the furthest-flung Friar fan
by london_balling on May 21, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions
He is younger and cheaper
and a bit of a PR move. Gerut was no great shakes either though. Let the salary dump continue.
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
Total PR Move
Gotta get fans back in those seats! Attendance has sucked lately. Now nostalgic San Diego baseball fans will flock to the park to see Tony Gwynn (Jr.) play for the Padres again.
I always liked Gerut, but he’s been in a funk lately. This could turn out to be good.
Love the move
Completely agree with it from a marketing perspective. Disagree with it from a “Gey” OT jokes perspective.
"I bleed powder blue." - Antonio Gates
by matthewverygood on May 21, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
I don't like the PR spin on this
If PR were a priority, Trevor would still wear a Padre uniform.
If PR were a priority, Giles would NOT be in a Padre uniform.
I’m not convinced that TGJ sells tickets.
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by Axion on May 21, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't know.
Does he sell the place out? Of course not. But does he sell some tickets? I think he does. I think you’re both over-estimating the intelligence of a number of San Diego sports fans. The same people that call Scott Hairston “Harrison” will LOVE this deal.
Where was this thinking
when TGJ was passed on waivers?
I just don’t see them suddenly coming to this realization. If it’s all true, tell them I hate them.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Totally right
and just think of the PR they’ll get when they let Heat go in two years and wheel Trevor back in for a final hurrah!
Gotta be the furthest-flung Friar fan
by london_balling on May 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny you'd mention that.
I’ve hypothesized that they would pull that stunt too.
Nice user name, too. You live by the river?
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by TheThirdGonzalez on May 21, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
One other thing...I think PR IS a priority with the Padres front office.
They just have no f**king clue as to how to do it correctly. The sad thing is we can’t even blame this on Sandy.
Not without trying
We can pin it on Sandy for not getting TGJ earlier. If we’re just going to suck in the present and enjoy season’s past, we should have started it two seasons ago.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
This is a dumb, pointless trade
It’s not an upgrade and if anything puts TGJR in the unwinnable position of being compared to his father. And if this was really done as a PR move, if THIS is something the FO really thinks will spark fan interest, then this organization is in far more disarray than I ever thought.
by Winfield's Ghost on May 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions
Seriously
I don’t want to see failed Gwynn out there.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Failed Gwynn ? I watched Chris Gwynn in 1996
Chris Gwynn has a “Oscar Azocar” like year in 1996. We have already seen a failed Gwynn in a Pads uniform.
But he did hit that double…
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by TheThirdGonzalez on May 21, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction
Another failed Gwynn who bats nowhere near .300.
Believe me, I’d love nothing more than to be wrong about this. But to me, it looks like we got another Drew Macias with a fancy name. PLEASE, PLEASE LET ME BE WRONG.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
This is a bad move
Couldn’t we get a better deal for Gerut?
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
Gwynn cleared waivers in April,
so the Padres could’ve had him for nothing at that time. He didn’t hit much in Triple A last year.
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."
Groucho Marx
Exactly
this makes no sense.
Must be a complete salary dump, and Gerut is only making $1.75 MM whereas TGJ is probably making 400k or 500k.
We save a little over a million and lose a good bat?
The only beneifit will be that he can lead off.
A GOOD BAT????????
Gerut’s hitting 220
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by matthewverygood on May 21, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He also hit about
.297 last year, he’s barely up to 100 ABs, nevertheless I’d bet he can outhit Gwynn JR
Wow
Gerut for Jr? Is this all we could get for him? May 21: Padres officially waving the white flag after a 5 game win streak. Moores/Moorad REALLY want to have this budget down to 40 mill.
This just in
Padres actually attempting YOUTH MOVEMENT
People still unhappy
by TheAxManCometh on May 21, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
What the Funk is this?
Seriously, a struggling AAAA hitter for a guy who nearly hit .300 last year with some power.
Not to mention, Gerut might not have the legs of TGwynn but he made MANY spectacular diving plays in center field.
Just during that one game in the reds series, he stole a near-home run and made a diving catch coming in.
The only advantage is that TGwynn is younger and a bit cheaper, but I think Gerut’s not making more than 1 MM right now anyway.
Totally not worth it.
Straight up, we got a worse player for a better player, horrible.
So I take it
your name doesn’t stand for ‘Tony Junior Bandwagon’.
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by TheThirdGonzalez on May 21, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's actually
TIJUANA JAIL BREAK
"Get on board early," Black said, alluding to, what he feels, is a crop of up-and-coming players.
"I would tell those fans that we're going to play good baseball. We're going to play hard. We're going to have exciting young players..." -Bud Black
It's this kind of trade
that makes everybody negative on what we’d get in return for Jake.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
The FO is aware
that they were supposed to tank last season to get Strasburg right and not this one?
The guys at Friar Forecast look at it from a positive angle
Though “positive” is a stretch
Your Newest Padre: Tony Gwynn Junior
"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt"
Come on now, is Gerut that good?
we picked him up off the scrap heap in 08. He is a career 267 hitter with limited power and a decent glove in the field. The only reason he is in the majors is because the padres stink. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him at AAA for the brewers. He definitely won’t be more that a situational guy for them. Let’s not act like we just traded Babe Ruth for a baby ruth.
I think this trade is a push. Gerut might be slightly better player, but Gwynn is younger and a better defender and has more upside.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Here here
All very very good points that I hope everyone else reads
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by matthewverygood on May 21, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Limited power with a glove
to no power with a glove
It’s a downgrade no matter what.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
How does this make Venable / Macias / Huffman / Blanks feel?
most any of those guys could do the same thing as TGJ and we wouldn’t have to trade anyone to get them because THIEY"RE ALREADY OURS!
by TJB on May 21, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
good point
i feel like venable has earned a chance
DODGERS, RED SOX, YANKEES, BRONCOS, PATRIOTS and RAIDERS all suck. Especially the Dodgers.
by LJbumfool on May 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think there is any doubt
Gerut is gone at years end and in his 30’s. You trade him and get a 26 yo 4th OF and save 1 million and change.
This is a terrible thing for the Padres. - Jerry Coleman
Easy Solution
LF: Hairston
CF: Gwynn Jr
RF: Venable
by TheAxManCometh on May 21, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Who cares?
Might as well get a Triple-A player with the name Gwynn for a .221 hitter. It’s a Triple-A team anyway.
Gerut a luxury
at 1.75 million. Hopefully this means more plate appearances — like every night — for Hairston, with Gwynn as 4th outfielder/defensive sub. If so it is addition by subtraction. Assuming Scottie keeps hitting .354.
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