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Alderson: "we're actually trying to accomplish something by putting systems in place that will work"

Sandy Alderson Report (MP3)

  • He thinks it's a good thing to have the Dodgers, Indians and White Sox moving their Spring Training facilities to Arizona.  "The more the merrier"
  • Sandy likes the idea of Heath Bell pitching in the WBC to let him face better quality hitters in preparation for the regular season.
  • When comparing Wally Joyner and Jim Lefebrve :  "There is nothing different in Jim's approach that is different from the overall club philosophy"  It's about getting a good pitch to hit no matter where the hitters are at in the count.
  • Hitters need structure and a disciplined approach.
  • Alderson doesn't think the philosophy of the Padres will change after he leaves.  "There is nothing fundamentally different about what were  trying to do than what other successful teams are doing...  The difference is that we're making an effort... we're actually trying to accomplish something by putting systems in place that will work.  I don't think those fundamental elements will change.  They might, but I doubt it."
  • Alderson was very surprised how low the Padres farm system was ranked by Baseball America.  The only player that had a tough year in Alderson's opinion was Matt Antonelli.  Baseball America is tools and draft oriented.  He's very confident that the farm system has improved and will continue to improve.  He thinks there is some carry over from how bad the Major League club did that affected their thoughts on the whole organization.
  • "No comment" on the Cubs or PAC-10 job. Alderson is trying not to comment on his other job possibilities.  He's trying to continue to function as the Padres CEO for the remaining few weeks.  Alderson hasn't thought about whether he's in favor of a College Football playoff. 
  • When the sale closes then he will cease to be Padres CEO, that is projected to be before Padres Opening Day.  Alderson isn't really in the loop when it comes to the sale of the Padres.
  • "Let's start with the Bleacher Bums, they get zero credit" when it comes to the reducing food prices at Petco.  "I don't think Randy [Jones] reduced his prices"
  • Alderson is sure that Correia can pitch at the Major League level, but he's not sure if he'll be a starter or part of the bullpen.
  • Silva turned his ankle running in the outfield.  He hasn't thrown yet.
  • The Dodgers signing Manny was a shocker.  "I wasn't happy to see it because I think that make the Dodgers significantly better"
  • Kevin Towers hasn't told Sandy about any interest in Joe Beimel.
  • Alderson has been impressed with Everth Cabrera's glove.  "I'm looking for a guy who makes all the routine plays and brings a little bit of offense".  "The routine plays have occasionally eluded him..."

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"I'm looking for a guy who makes all the routine plays and brings a little bit of offense".

Ummm….Khalil?

Didn’t Khalil make “all the routine plays” in addition to making some “Jesus F**king Lopez did you see the play Greeney just made?” plays and bring a tad bit more than “a little bit of offense”?

No?

"We're not going to be as bad as you think."

by Drama on Mar 5, 2009 9:20 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Well, you know

Besides him.

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by Axion on Mar 5, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sandy just forgot to follow that up with....

“or someone who makes 300K a year and is "listed” as a SS"

by Steve (Grey Suit) on Mar 5, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So rec'd

Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Mar 5, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Mar 5, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you know what was interesting about that thread

and solid post Drama, it really was .. shame you were getting attacked from the first post.

But, what was interesting about it, was that Drama was correct with almost every one of his arguments. It may have been a reach to label him a bust at such a young age, because I think he has a great season in St Louis, but .. had the padres shopped Greene at the that time or even that summer, they would have gotten a lot more in return that some sidearm reliever with a questionable gap between his ears.

I saw where that thread also caused Phantom to join, so that was a massive plus. Phantom made a solid point about what Kahlil did for the pitching staff, and i think that can’t be repeated enough. That’s going to be the friars downfall this season, defense up the middle. Peavy and Young are going to miss having Kahlil over their shoulder.

and to think they were only 3.3 million away from having the best infield defense in the game (Greene, ODog, Adrian)

As for Alderson, only one, maybe two more fireside chats it sounds like. I have mixed feelings on his departure. He has a ton of knowledge between his ears, and losing that type of talent, especially in the front office, is never a good thing.

But I just never liked the way he treated people. I never liked the way, he wouldn’t answer a question. He is excellent at the art of spin, and he really should be a politician more than anything.

I imagine baseball pays better though ..

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by wrveres on Mar 6, 2009 12:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

God bless

Did Alderson say we were trying to be like the Boston Red Sox ?

God bless the day any Padres owner can afford to pay $20 million dollars to have their star outfielder, play for another team.

God bless the day the Padres pay $50 million dollars, just to talk to a pitcher, who has never pitched in the major leagues.

God bless the day the Padres can pay $15 million dollars for an outfielder who averages 100 games a season, and be happy about it!!

God bless the day the Padres can sign a free agent pitcher for $5 million, just in case we need him in September.

is that the system Alderson is talking about?

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by wrveres on Mar 6, 2009 12:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sandy didnt say he was impressed with

Everth Cabrera’s glove. He said that the routine plays sometimes eluded Cabrera and that they will see if he can hit. His tone and the long pauses he took in an attempt to say something PC about Cabrera tells you that Alderson is not too high on him right now.

He also said the Padres are not a team that can just keep a Rule V player to keep him. He has to produce. I would say that if he doesn’t improve substantially with the bat, especially in the last week or two of camp, that Cabrera is gone.

Orlando Hudson signed for $3.4 million base plus $4.6 million in PA based incentives. If he gets 550 Pa he makes $8 million. That is only $7.15 million more than Eckstein and please go take a look at their career batting numbers.

I just wish the Padres had spent the money they saved on Eckstein to sign a decent starting pitcher.

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by websoulsurfer on Mar 6, 2009 9:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

But aren't the Padres

precisely the type of team that can keep a Rule 5 player just to keep him? A guy with upside who needs time to mature, on a team that’s not going to contend?

by Dalton on Mar 6, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alderson said they cannot keep a guy

just to keep him. He has to produce.

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by websoulsurfer on Mar 6, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Which is a dumb thing to say about Cabrera

The kid’s 22 and hasn’t played above A ball. They took him because of his “high ceiling.” (see DePo: http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/2008/12/response-to-comment.html)

by Dalton on Mar 6, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Exact quote

“I’ve been impressed with his glove…”

by jbox on Mar 6, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alderson is talking about a system in Boston

Where 4 home grown position players will be starting in 2009 as well as at least 6 of 12 pitchers are home grown (8 if you include the Japanese signings)

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by websoulsurfer on Mar 6, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

"I’ve been impressed with his glove, BUT…"

That but was followed by the whole thing about routine plays and that Cabrera is blowing them and that he also had to provide offense and they would see if he would hit.

Combine that with 3 FIELDING errors in 24 innings over 7 games and you do not have a pretty picture. Sometimes you can forgive throwing errors, but booting the ball is never a good thing.

Add to that the fact that Cabrera’s footwork is atrocious, (take a look at the video of him where he makes the throw from his knees – if his footwork was even average he gets to that ball standing up) and you are looking at a kid that while he has upside, needs a few more years in the minors to learn how to play the game.

I would love to see him start the season in Lake Elsinore. The Padres need to work out a trade with the Rockies.

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by websoulsurfer on Mar 6, 2009 10:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I put the whole part about the routine plays

I’m not sure what you are taking issue with.

by jbox on Mar 6, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Argument for the sake of argument.

Anyway, if we manage to keep him on the roster for the entire 2009 season, he could be optioned to the minors the following season. Woo Hoo!

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Mar 6, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DL

Any chance Cabrera ends up with an “injury” and lands on the 60 Day DL? With that said, how long can a player spend on the DL in a given season?

TBD

by IputtheYinTony on Mar 10, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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