Source close to A Gonzalez believes he'll be traded to Red Sox within next 10 days.Does this mean deal will happen?No.But momentum is there
about 2 years ago
jbox
92 comments
0 recs |
Email
PrintComments
why can't we afford Adrian?
Most folks seem to assume that we won’t be able to afford Adrian once his contract is up. But isn’t the Pads payroll supposed to get to the 80 mil level in about 3 years? Why not keep the homegrown talent/face of the franchise? Adrian will likely give the Pads some sort of hometown discount anyways. That’s what Tony did his whole career, and I think Adrian will follow suit.
I don't know about that $80m figure
but there’s enough leftover Giles/Peavy/Hoffman money to pay Adrian for at least the next two years before he even becomes expensive, so there’s really zero pressure to move him until then.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
I disagree with the zero pressure to move him
Every day we get closer to the end of his contract, the less he is worth tradewise.
I agree that they can afford to pay him until the end of it, but they will get less and less
as that day approaches.
by strummer on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
"the less he is worth tradewise"
He’s Adrian Gonzalez, not Kevin Kouzmanoff.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Adrian Gonzalez at the end of his contract
is not worth nearly as much tradewise as Adrian Gonzalez under contract.
The closer we get to the end of his contract, the more he resembles a free agent.
Adrian Gonzalez with 38 hrs, an approaching trade deadline
and four teams vying to improve their playoff chances is worth MUCH more than Adrian Gonzalez today with one team bidding.
He won’t start losing trade value unless he has a bad year or less than a year left on his contract.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Dec 16, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
That's a separate issue
More teams bidding will certainly boost the return. We don’t know how many teams are bidding right now. There also might be other players available at the trade deadline who are not available now.
But all things being equal, his return drops as the end of his contract gets closer.
How come the market doesn't get accounted for now?
Because we don’t know all the facts?
Then how can you be sure his value is going to be not nearly as much?
I’m sorry, that’s a rhetorical question. The answer is: you can’t.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Hoyer & Garfinkel told me
it’s like this when it comes to Adrian……you don’t have a for sale sign in front of your house but it’s worth 300,00 and someone comes up to you and offers you 700,000….would you take it?
Yeah Dex & JBox….you aren’t the only people Garfinkel has wined and dined.
It is a pretty basic concept
that a premier player is going to be worth more tradewise while signed to a cheap contract, than he will near the end of that contract.
Sure anything is possible. Maybe Texiera will have a career ending injury and Pujols had AIDS and Prince Fielder ODs. Maybe there will be 8 wealthy teams all in need of a 1st baseman, and AG will be the only one available.
But the reverse is also true. Maybe AG gets hurt, or several other big hitters become available.
by strummer on Dec 16, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I understand what you're saying
Looking at the contract situation alone, you’re right, value would decline over time. But barring catastrophe, he’s not going to drop to the point where he’s worthless, and he’ll be just as valuable before the next trade deadline if not the one after.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Exactly.
“All things being equal” AG’s value at the trade deadline this coming season will be just as high (if not higher) than his value right now. So, Strummer, your point about how he’s losing value “every day we get closer to the end of his contract” is not true. If he’s not traded by this coming trade deadline, then I might be inclined to agree with you, but not before then.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Dec 16, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
TDK
AG’s value at the trade deadline this coming season will be just as high (if not higher) than his value right now
I disagree! The Red Sox, Mets, etc may not want to start the season with 1B still a question mark. They may move in a different direction and eventually no longer be interested. The claim that his value will be just as high or higher seems purely speculative.
Pure speculation
is also exactly what that quote is.
Do you have a point? One that’s your own?
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
It is my own!
And of course it is speculation! But it is a reasonable one. Teams often bow out and move in a different direction. And it shows that AGs value will not neccesarily be “just as high if not higher” next year.
Oh, I thought it was someone else's quote, sorry
But still, speculation can’t disqualify speculation because it’s speculation.
You’re using the market as an example for a point where you’re already ignoring the market. Remember “all things being equal” is saying that his value is going down because of contract time alone, not market conditions, so you can’t cite market conditions as a supporting fact that his value will go down.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
I've got a question
“Who quotes themself?”-SDPads_1
by SDPads_1 on Dec 16, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My mistake
I screwed up TDKs quote and quoted my own words by accident.
Axion
you can’t cite market conditions as a supporting fact that his value will go down.
That was directed at TDK. I am having two different arguments with two people here. You claim that there is no pressure to trade him, and TDK claims that his value will be the same or higher next year because 4 pennant contenders will all want him.
I didn't claim that "his value will be the same or
higher next year because 4 pennant contenders will all want him." Please don’t twist my words.
All I said was that you’re wrong to say that the clock is ticking as of right now and that (all other things being equal) he’s losing trade value. I don’t think that clock starts ticking until this year’s trade deadline.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Dec 18, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
It depends on how much Adrian wants
If he wants $20 million a year, even at an $80 million payroll, he’ll eat up a quarter of the payroll and essentially leave this team with a $60 million payroll.
http://thesacrificebunt.com/
by R. Lankford on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
if he wants $20 mill, he can go
$20 million a year is not a hometown discount. If he wants that from the Padres, he can go. But I don’t think it’ll get to that. Adrian wants to play for the Padres and a winner. If we actually increased our payroll this year and the years to come, then I think Adrian will definitely be inclined to give the Pads a significant discount once his contract is up.
by recorddigger on Dec 16, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be happy with a 60 mil payroll
Its about the NL average.
"It's all part of the plan." Jeff Moorad and The Joker in the Dark Knight.
"Dwight Howard couldn't score 40 points in a game if he was going against Yi Jianlian's chair." Bill Simmons chat 5/20
"I don't feel this team can beat us four times," Mo Williams 5/21
Twitter@GordonEdes
“Take a deep breath, Boston fans. Adrian Gonzalez won’t be walking through the door anytime soon. Nothing going on on that front.”
That's what every person on the planet is reporting
Other than DBs that just want to get the press from writing the words “Red Sox” in their “reporting”
Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
Representing the San Diego State University Aztecs, home of the 2009 College Cheerleading National Champions in the all women's division.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Dec 16, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Is this the vaguest rumor of all time?
No mention of who the source might be, why he thinks Adrian will be traded, who will be involved in the trade, or why it would happen in 10 days. Dumb. And now the Red Sox fans are having the world’s biggest circle jerk.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Dec 16, 2009 11:42 AM PST reply actions
7 days..10 days..whatever
Don't hate the game, hate the nerds!
by thenerdhater on Dec 16, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
i wonder what the % is of all AG rumors coming from Boston?
Well if we trade Gonzo and Kyle Blanks sheets the bed then at least we have Lenny Dykstra’s pretend relative to save us.
If I pick it, I flick it
by Duke Street Kings on Dec 16, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions
How's Dykstra's hip doing?
We don’t have a Barbaro on our hands with him, do we?
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Dec 16, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'm more worried about his bat than his hip
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
Just to throw something out there
Let’s say Adrian stays at about 6 WAR for 2010-11, giving him 12 WAR of total remaining value.
Clay Buccholz generated 1.2 WAR in 2009 in 90 IP. So if he pitches twice the innings next year, we could guess that he’d double his value to 2.4 WAR, assuming no improvement at all. That’d give him about 5 WAR for 2010-11.
Jacoby Ellsbury was worth about 2 WAR in 2009, so if we assume no improvement he’d give 4 WAR from 2010-11.
Just those two players, by conservative estimate would give you 9 WAR, about 3 wins less than Adrian would. So you’d need something else in the deal to get at least equal value. Lots of people throw around Daniel Bard, and he could give you 2 wins over 2010-11, so that would help make up the difference.
If we assumed that Buccholz, Ellsbury, and Bard, as young players, would improve over the next two years, then you’re getting equal or greater value. But then you have to balance that against the possibility of injury and regression. Which could happen to Adrian as well.
Bottom line, to my totally uneducated eyes, those three players could give you roughly equal value for Adrian.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 16, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions
and it could be more
because they could be replace players that are below WAR, and the drop off from Adrian to Blanks at 1b, needs to be accounted for.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Sure.
Blanks is tough to project because he only had 172 plate appearances.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
What about the part where we expect Buchholz and Ellsbury to be better in the NL and realize that the odds of Gonzalez repeating last season’s career year aren’t that great?
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "I win again. Engrish is my bitch." - Steven Zucconi
by Richard Wade on Dec 16, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
It's certainly possible.
I was just attempting to be conservative.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 16, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
Equal value
If they can all play first base at the same time.
Bard’s a bullpen upgrade, Buchholz is probably a decent pitching upgrade, but trading Adrian’s offensive production for Ellsbury (awful OPS+ last couple seasons, and not a tremendous upgrade over Gwynn in center) just creates a black hole in our already feeble lineup.
I don’t like these 3 pieces without at least another blue chip prospect.
Plus, aren't we in a position where we should be demanding MORE than equal value?
I mean if there really is no incentive to “get rid” of AGon, shouldn’t we expect to get more than a fair trade value if we’re going to trade him?
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Dec 16, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not really.
You’re subtracting Adrian’s value at first true, but you’d be adding to value elsewhere on the team. Blanks would step in at first base and he’s a variable. It’s likely he wouldn’t produce as much as Adrian, at least not right away. But he’d probably give you a couple wins.
You’re right about Ellsbury’s OPS+. But, his 2009 wOBA was .354, which for a center fielder is really good. wOBA is a better measure than OPS+, because it corrects for the over-unfluence of SLG on the OPS+ stat. By comparison, Anthony Jr.‘s was .311. Ellsbury’s defense was real good in 2008, and not very good in 2009, so it’s unclear what to expect in that department, though he has the range to be consistently good.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 16, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I fudged it.
But I think you build around guys like Adrian…not guys like Buchholz and Ellsbury.
Yeah. Big slow power hitters are how we’re going to win in PetCo. Not pitching, speed and defense.
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "I win again. Engrish is my bitch." - Steven Zucconi
by Richard Wade on Dec 16, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
You nailed my point exactly.
I want guys with Adrian’s build/skillset playing every position on the field. I didn’t actually mean that Adrian is an elite talent on an already-challenged offense, and that I don’t think slap-hitting, below average offensive players (despite their SPEED!!!!!) are the answer, or even an adequate substitute.
And I also see Jason Giambi as our second baseman of the future. I’m not sold on Nick Johnson at short yet, though.
you probably stain the sheets
just thinking about Jaff Decker in a Padres uniform.
"Get on board early," Black said, alluding to, what he feels, is a crop of up-and-coming players.
"I would tell those fans that we're going to play good baseball. We're going to play hard. We're going to have exciting young players..." -Bud Black
Yes, because I'm such a diehard Padres FO apologist and total Moneyball whore.
I’d actually rather trade Decker and Blanks for a speedy outfielder with a sub-.200 OBP, but makes the most of that horrendous production by STEALING BASES!!!
To clarify, I was kidding.
That said, I’m not sold that Adrian is an elite talent. He had a career year in 2008. He was 2.5 wins better than he’d ever been before. The odds that he repeats that production aren’t great. With two years left on his contract and coming off what may very well be his best year as a pro, he isn’t likely to be worth more than he is right now.
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "I win again. Engrish is my bitch." - Steven Zucconi
by Richard Wade on Dec 17, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
That depends on what you think BB & E will be.
If you think they’ll realize their upside and be an ace, closer, and starting CF, then they’re pretty good pieces to build around.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 16, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ellsbury is not a centerfielder.
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "I win again. Engrish is my bitch." - Steven Zucconi
by Richard Wade on Dec 16, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
I suppose you could play him in right or left
though he doesn’t seem to me to have the power to play there. In 2009 he posted a SLG of .415 and ISO of .114, both pretty low for a corner outfielder. For a centerfielder it’s closer to average. Again, in regards to defense, he had a bad year in center in 2009, but he was pretty good in 2008 in all three spots.
So if you think his power will develop, then yeah I guess a corner spot would be better for him. But if you think his power will stay the same but his defense will get back to where it was in 2008, then center is better. And he never really showed much power in the minors.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 16, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
He’s an outstanding defensive corner outfielder, but not a very good center fielder. He has more value in the corner even with his league average bat.
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "I win again. Engrish is my bitch." - Steven Zucconi
by Richard Wade on Dec 17, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
what does WAR mean?
If I pick it, I flick it
by Duke Street Kings on Dec 16, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
And as far as "equal value" goes:
People often talk of trades in terms of them being “equal” or not. Which leads me to think:
Why the hell would we want the Padres to be equally good as they are now, but with a few different faces mixed in? If Boston wants a premier 1B to help them compete for the WS next year (and beyond), they should be willing to pay a premium price.
The Padres should have to be made demonstrably better through any trade they make involving Adrian.
Pretty sure that's how Hoyer is looking at it
That’s why I’m pretty sure these “reporters” are just looking for attention. I could go on TV and say the word “red sox” and get huge ratings. All they are doing is hoping on the red sox media machine.
Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
Representing the San Diego State University Aztecs, home of the 2009 College Cheerleading National Champions in the all women's division.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Dec 16, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
The way I'm looking at it
is that those three players RIGHT NOW are equal, but each still have a lot of upside and room to grow and improve. Whereas Adrian is probably as good as he’s ever going to be.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 16, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
And I totally see your viewpoint.
it’s valid, and you’re arguing it well, instead of just mocking me (see above).
I really like Bard. I don’t think a dominant reliever is what is holding the Padres back at this time. I say that because I think you can find players like Ellsbury and Buchholz down the line, or find guys just as useful within our system in the next 2-3 years.
Don’t get me wrong— I’d like all of them on our team, I just think we need significantly more for a player of Adrian’s caliber.
The problem with that kind of thinking is that Adrian will be gone in two years and we’ll have nothing to show for him.
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "I win again. Engrish is my bitch." - Steven Zucconi
by Richard Wade on Dec 17, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
That could be true
Even if you do trade him. Especially with the so-so prospect and not-so-great major league names being thrown around.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
I'm not exactly sure what people expect to get back for Adrian.
Though the general popular consensus seems to be half of the trade partner’s starting lineup and all their top prospects.
Look at the Teixeira trades. In 2007, the Braves gave up 1 starter and four prospects for a year and half of Tex. The Angels gave up Casey Kotchman and a minor league pitcher in 2008 for a half a year of him. None of those guys that were given for Teixeira have done much with the exception of Elvis Andrus.
It seems to me that the names being thrown around for Adrian have much better chances to succeed than those guys. Buccholz, Ellsbury, and Bard have major league experience and have shown a lot of talent. Most of the guys traded for Teixeira hadn’t shown anything at the times they were traded. And Teixeira is a better player than Adrian.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 17, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
And I'm not particularly sure
That the Teixeira-type trade would make us any better. Right now the Rangers have backup catcher who can’t catch, a good fielding SS that has so-so hitting skills and probably will reach free agency before he can hit, a fireballer who doesn’t seem like he can start and another guy who can barely crack the rotation. So basically no one that ever really replaced Teixeira. So where does that leave us? I’d rather just see where we get with an awesome slugger and take our chances on our prospects that we developed ourselves. Dipping into other people’s prospect wells is more likely to find their duds than their studs. And the Padres FO agrees with me.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
Sure
but taking our chances with our slugger only makes sense if you reasonably expect to do anything the next two years, and I don’t know that that’s the case. At least the Rangers got something for him, and the prospects they got could have turned into good players, as opposed to the certainty of the nothing they’d have gotten when Teixeira left for free agency.
And I’d argue that the pieces being talked about coming from Boston have a decent chance to succeed based on minor and major league track record, plus the fact that Hoyer likely knows what he’s getting from them better than anywhere else.
"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 18, 2009 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
Pieces being talked about by who?
Hoyer and Epstein aren’t talking about any pieces only the media is. The Red Sox will not give up any pieces that they think are worth keeping and those are exactly the ones Hoyer will want. If a deal between those teams gets done at this point it’ll have to be a 3 teamer because Hoyer will not get the guys he wants. Also, given their stance that they are listening and not asking its not like Hoyer gets to pick and choose.
Anyways, I do think its reasonable that the Padres can do something. It’s worth a shot. Trading Adrian absolutely cripples the offense. There is no one they can get back in trade or promote from within that will replace that kind of offensive production over the next 2 years and you can realistically expect a couple of pitchers to pick up the difference. Trading Adrian throws in the towel for the next 2 seasons and given some of the talent the Padres are accumulating that seems foolhardy. Not to mention that Moorad still sounds optimistic about signing Adrian. Or at the very least he’s saying that he hasn’t received any word from his agent that Adrian will price himself out of San Diego. He does say that if that does happen, they most likely will look to move him.
Bottom line, you trade Adrian you have to get back pieces that will improve this team by 2011 and maybe 2010 or else you should stick with what you have until you’re pretty sure what you have won’t help you. Adrian can help us, these Red Sox players probably can’t and there’s still time to trade him. If Adrian’s value is so low that these Red Sox players are the best we can do, then you might as well wait.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
Source close to Adrian
I went to the Starbucks in his neighborhood on Saturday, so I could be the source.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
No.
But apparently they have drunk people looking for bathrooms.
by Dalton on Dec 16, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
awesome
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Viva Ron Mexico!
"Get on board early," Black said, alluding to, what he feels, is a crop of up-and-coming players.
"I would tell those fans that we're going to play good baseball. We're going to play hard. We're going to have exciting young players..." -Bud Black
Talks are going nowhere
Jose Arreguay just needed some attention.
Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
Representing the San Diego State University Aztecs, home of the 2009 College Cheerleading National Champions in the all women's division.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Dec 16, 2009 3:12 PM PST reply actions
definitely possible
but making a statement of a 10 day time period seems really random. How would a source close to Adrian know this anyway…. I wouldn’t think it would be brought to Adrian’s knowledge until a deal was in place. It’s not like they need his permission.
I like to read
the comments section on Mlbtraderumors.com for this Adrian trade stuff. Just like with Peavy last year, lots of rediculous proposals by fans of big market teams that think the Padres are supposed to act as their AAA affiliate.
The best offer i saw in there that could make sense was Buccholz, Bard, Hermida, Ramirez (the C from TEX), and Westmoreland for Adrian. If something like that is put on the table I’d have to think Adrian’s out of here.
Some of the proposals on there were hilarious.
Papelbon, Anderson, and a prospect was the best. I especially love it when they then lay out the Red Sox’s roster after the trade to show how much better it looks with Adrian’s name in it.
Even yankee fans
Think the red sox fans are delusional at best.
And frankly I don’t think they think we even qualify as an AAA affiliate. We’re basically San Antonio to them.
Buccholtz and Bard are key parts, Westmoreland would be good, and then two more parts and then you’d have a fair trade.
by TheAxManCometh on Dec 16, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
A deal with Boston makes sense
The Red Sox traded Lowell, who they really were forced into signing because of the shortage of 3rd basemen at the time. I think they would like to move Youklis to 3rd and got rid of Lowell to do so. They don’t have Manny, and Ortiz has not been as consistent lately. So they know they need a big bat in the lineup, and first base would be a great spot to put one, especially a high average, great defense, line drive hitter with power who swings a left handed bat in pesky pole Fenway Park.
Sure, Adrian might be worth slightly more at trade deadline when teams need to add bats, but not necassarily. The Red Sox would probably like to get a deal done now, and have Adrian with the club from the get-go, not when they are 6 games back of NY in August. That means that would probably be willing to put together a more attractive package to the Padres and give up a bit of talent.
On the Padres side, yeah Adrian is fantastic, but if they don’t expect to win in the next two years, his contributions amount to nothing more than padding his own stats. Adrian alone does not put that many folks in the seats. A crop of young players might be a great move for the Pads. Blanks to first. Ellisbury, Gwynn, Venable in the outfield in a speed and defense park. They also need a good arm to replace Peavey.
I just dont see the Padres holding Adrian much longer just because he is currently a bargain. He is worth more to teams who are immediately competitive.
by jtothepizzle77 on Dec 16, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty Torn on Adrian
Adrian is the hometown hero who is obviously a crowd favorite. He has been the best player on the team for years and could easily be Mr. Padre Jr (sorry Anthony) if he ends his career here.
With that being said, if we can get a bunch of young up and comers we gotta pull the trigger. The key here is not to get prospects which won’t pan out but MLB ready talent that can contribute early and grow with time. Not too familiar with the Red Sox (I hate them almost as much as the Celtics) and their players but it seems like Buccholtz is that kind of player. Jacoby worries me, not too familiar with him but he seems like he is a bigger name than his talent because of where he plays.
Whatever happens with Adrian, Padres will have a young, exciting team, Throwback Thursdays, and cheap beer…plenty to cheer about.
Lamar = Laker for Life...Go Pads...Go Bolts
by mrbarneydangles on Dec 16, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions
Is there an easy way to scroll through this to find the new posts?
If I pick it, I flick it
by Duke Street Kings on Dec 17, 2009 7:16 AM PST reply actions
awesome!! i'm glad i asked
If I pick it, I flick it
by Duke Street Kings on Dec 17, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Well the newest rumors are that the Orioles have pitching
and they were very interested at the meetings.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Don't think they have anything we'd want from then
Maybe matsuz and jones?
by TheAxManCometh on Dec 17, 2009 10:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
jones is probably more valuable than adrian at this point
So that ain’t gonna happen. They won’t trade wieters either, so don’t even think it.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Dec 17, 2009 2:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Big League Stew - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
- Photo: Padres fan regrets letting mother capture moment with Trevor Hoffman
- Marlins agree to unretire No. 5 for Logan Morrison, who will honor his father’s favorite player
- Weatherman Derek Holland does Dallas TV
- Ask Alex: Will Julio Teheran or Matt Moore win rookie of the year?
- Ku Klux Klan, umpires and bowling: Why the minor leagues tossed out Jim Evans academy
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
