Kouzmanoff for Swisher?
Just an idea I was toying this and I would be curious as to what some Padre fans think of this. It's a hypothetical Kevin Kouzmanoff trade idea, and like most of theme, they are unrealistic, but here we go.
I certainly understand the fact that Kevin Kouzmanoff and Chase Headley can coexist, but is that actually best for the team? I am not completely sure how good or bad Headley's defense is in LF, but he does not seem like a strong defender in LF and that's likely because he is a 3B playing LF. So the issue with the team isn't so much Headley vs Kouz, but really Kouz vs avaliable LF production
With that in mind, I started to think about what teams might need a 3B, but have a surplus of OF's? Then it hit me, what about the White Sox? Joe Crede is a free agent after this year and while the Sox do have Josh Fields in the minors, he had a poor 08 in AAA and did even worse in the bigs.
Where am I going with this? The Padres trade Kevin Kouzmanoff to the White Sox for Nick Swisher, who had an absolutely horrible 2008 with the team in which he hit .219/.332/.410 with 24 homers in an offensive park. He is under contract until 2010 at 5.3 million in 09, and 6.75 M in 2010. He also has option years for 2011 and 12 at 9 and 10 million dollars apiece.
So why Swisher? He hit worse than Kouz and he did it at US Cellular, NOT Petco. Here's my reasons why:
-Nick Swisher is only one year younger than Kouz, but prior to 08 has a track year of marked MLB success.
-In 08, Swisher posted the highest LD% of his career at 20.9%, which gives him an expected BABIP of .329, his actual BABIP this year was .249, suggesting he was quite unlucky.
-If you adjust for that "luck" Swisher hits the following line .272/.383/.477 which is a very good line I think we'd all like, even after park adjustment.
-This move would help the defense, because I believe Swisher & Headley at LF and 3B would be more efficient with the glove than Headley & Kouz
-While Kouz is a good hitter and would be extremely special if he had more plate patience, Swisher already has demonstrated plate patience, and I'd rather bet on the 28 year old who already has that skill than the 27 year old who may or may not ever develop it.
-I'd even throw in Venable or Gerut if I had to, but would obviously prefer not to
Would the Sox do it? Obviously I have no idea, but I don't know how high they are on Swisher given the fact that he had such a bad year that they decided to acquire Griffey at the deadline (although Konerko was partially responsible for that too). Do they view 3B as a hole? Maybe not, maybe they love Josh Fields despite 2008 or maybe they want to bring back Crede. If that's the case, I haven't given up, I just try to find a 3rd team to make it fit. That team? The San Francisco Giants
The Giants clearly have a hole at 3B and would covet a young 3B like Kouzmanoff. They could send Aaron Rowand, who Williams tried to acquire this past off-season via FA, cash, and a few pieces (Jack Taschner and Clayton Tanner?) to the Sox for Kouz from the Pads, and Swisher to the Pads. That's a highly unrealistic scenario, but that's what the internet is for. To explore cooky half baked ideas that will never see the light of day.
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Swisher in the PETCO outfield.
He couldn’t cover the ground in the Cell. I hope you’re joking.
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
he played CF in the Cell
LF isn’t quite as challenging. Plus, do you really think Headley is Willie Mays out there in left?
by NeifiChicken on Sep 30, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
He wasn't very impressive in Center.
He’s a nice philantropic guy off the field which could be a plus for San Diego. However, despite Josh Field’s struggles at Triple AAA, I still think he’s the Sox’ guy.
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
by friarinchicago on Sep 30, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
i think that's the best point
Fields is likely still their guy, despite his 08, which was quite horrible for a guy who is repeating AAA and has spent time in the bigs.
If that’s the case, I’d look into a 3 way deal with the Giants and Sox as I mentioned before, because Kenny Williams does love Aaron Rowand, and if the Giants were smart they’d want to move as much of his contract as possible. Kouz is a perfect catch for them because they DO NOT value plate patience and badly need a young 3B
by NeifiChicken on Sep 30, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Problems
1. Swisher is LH, I think we have enough of those. I don’t want some lefty specialist mowing down the hitters because Khalil, Headley, Antonelli, and Hundley are our only RH hitters.
2. I can’t see the White Sox making this deal. Swisher is a more versatile player, is only one year older, has more power, and their best hitting prospect in AAA plays 3B (who hit as many HRs in 2007 as Kouz did in 2008, but with 250 less ABs).
3. Money. But I don’t think Padres fans want to hear this excuse, so I’ll refrain from going into detail.
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good points, but
1) That hitting prospect, Josh Fields, was not on the club this year though and struggled in the minor leagues this season. They probably still have him in their plans, but 2008 was a lost year for Josh Fields
2) Swisher is a switch hitter
by NeifiChicken on Sep 30, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I looked at Fields' 2008 numbers
They look pretty good to me. He didn’t dominate, but definitely not bad enough to give up on the guy.
And I don’t know why I thought Swish was a lefty.
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I doubt they give up on him too. He was too impressive in 07 to merely cast off, but his 08 was horrible, can’t deny that. He was repeating a level after he’d already been in the bigs. He should have dominated AAA, not struggled
He’s probably their 09 3B though, can’t deny it
by NeifiChicken on Sep 30, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it
book it. Make the trade, but we need a grade B- pitcher in with the deal.
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I don't see the Padres trading Kouz for another outfielder
Isn’t the main point of trading Kouz to get Headley back at third and free up space in the OF for Gerut/Venable/Giles? Defense is important too but I think Kouz’s value would be much better served if it went into a 2B or a SP or bullpen help.
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I was just thinking this
We need less OFs not more. However, a Gerut/Venable/Giles OF is very lefthanded. Maybe Kouz to the Rangers for one of their many pitching prospects?
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With Hairston on the bench
there would be a decent right handed option for the OF
by sixpakfrombelgium on Oct 2, 2008 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
He's going to play all 3 positions simultaneously against lefties?
That’s impressive.
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i don't want to trade Kouzmanoff
but i sure do not want to sacrifice Venable or Gerut to make any kind of deal possible
Gerut is proving he can still have a career and was doing great for us
Venable has so much effing talent i would not dare move him
all need to stay thank you, but epspecially not be traded for swisher. heccccccck no!
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Just to add fuel to the fire
https://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=238582&src=162
See how this develops, I could see Swish asking for a trade.
Watching game 163, with Uribe at 3rd (no faith in Fields?) and Wise at LF over Swisher, I could see this turning bad if the Sox miss the playoffs.
cant u guys not talk about trading kouz on my birfday???? :)
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Man, I hope we trade Kouz
Happy Birthday!!!
by Winfield's Ghost on Oct 1, 2008 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions
The simple fact is you feel responsible for Goose and you have a confidence problem
by Winfield's Ghost on Oct 1, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Happy Happy!
whispers: psst anyone heard anything new on the kouz trade?
Thank goodness that's over!
Nice knowing you, Kouz

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lmao i kinda expected thi afte ri posted
but thanks guys :)
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