XX Sports Radio: Wally Joyner Interviewed about his resignation
XX Sports Radio: Wally Joyner Interview (MP3)
- Wally Joyner's resignation was accepted - effective immediately. He will not finish out the season as previously reported.
- Wally gave his letter of resignation yesterday morning and left it on Kevin Tower's desk. He'd been thinking about it for a few days. What led up to it was that he didn't have the full attention of his hitters.
- He felt like he was out of the loop, so he thought it was best for him to move on.
- it's not the way Wally likes to do business.
- Nevin says other people were bringing things into the hitters minds that made the situation tough.
- Nevin says that Wally is a great hitting coach and the team loved him.
- Wally says that he wasn't being included in everything that he should have been included in. He couldn't help with out knowing everything. He was frustrated and decided he didn't care for it.
- The chance that he wasn't going to be brought back next season did not have any affect on his decision. What was happening wasn't acceptable
- He wasn't included in the loop. He can't say who was included in the loop. He says that there isn't a problem with too many chefs in the kitchen if they are trying to make the same recipe.
- It was very frustrating for him to find out these things. His position was the hitting coach and it was to prepare them to be their best everyday and he did that. To find out that other things were going on that he wasn't aware of frustrated him because it prevented the players from doing their best.
- Nevin says that it should be more frustrating for Wally because he played the game faced pitchers, etc and the hitters were getting coached by people that never played the game and never experienced Major League Baseball first as a player.
- Wally thinks it's important to be prepared to be a MLB player and he doesn't think the Padres think differently than that. They just go about it differently.
- Wally told Buddy Black that he was disappointed that he was resigning from a job that he loved. He had to do it though. He thinks he became a better hitting coach because of this year. He'll continue to be friends with Kevin Towers. He'd like to continue to be a coach.
- Wally had planned on finishing his commitment to the team. He loves the players. He planned on going to LA. The Front Office told him not to go to LA and that his position with the Padres was over.
- Wally texted his hitters and told them how much he appreciated them. [Wally breaking up, very emotional]
- It was one thing that made him quit, but things kept coming up that continued to surprise him.
NC Times: Just who is coaching Padres' hitters?
"It was my understanding that I didn't have the full attention of my hitters that I thought I did for the period of time I was coaching them," Joyner said.
"So, without going into it, I felt like I was out of the loop and therefore I thought it was best to move on. ... Finding out there was other things going on I was not aware of frustrated me because it prevented these guys from being their best.
"It was just apparent to me I wasn't being included in everything I think I should have been included in and there was no way I could help without knowing it. And so I was frustrated and decided that I didn't care for it."
Said Joyner: "I think there was one thing that broke the camel's back, but I think there were things going on that continued to surprise me. So, again, this was my decision to do. There are opinions and systems that everyone is entitled to do and my opinion is I'm better off stepping down and moving on."
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thank god i don’t listen to that garbage. I know a lot of you guys listen to the local sports radio, but how in the hell can you handle listening to Phil Nevin. that guy is horrid. I’d rather have the shits after two bean and cheese burritos from robertos, than listen to that interview again. Is he really that horrible all the time? How do you people do it. Somebody is listening .. they keep track of that stuff ya know
So. Reading between the lines here, are we to believe that Wally is being blamed for Headley’s k/bb ratio? His lack of patience at the plate? What hogwash is that. This is the major leagues, only select few can walk into this game and dominate.
go padres!
I didn't get any of that from the interview
Did they even mention Headley?
Some Padres executive was coaching the hitters behind Wally’s back.
He lost his argument with me by quitting early
If he’d waited another week, then I’d absolutely be on his side. I have no doubt that the majority of what he’s saying is probably true. But by quitting early – right after a three game sweep and during a series that – in theory – should matter to the players and to the fans – he looks incredibly selfish.
by Winfield's Ghost on Sep 24, 2008 6:30 AM PDT reply actions
I could maybe understand that
But given the situation, isn’t it better for Wally that he leaves on his own terms? I assume he still wants to coach and it’s probably easier to get the next job if you weren’t fired from your last one.
plus, not really his own terms...
Since he wanted to finish the season, and the padres told him not to bother…
well
This way, he can get his side of the story out first and while people are paying attention and saying he wanted to finish out the season is just him trying to soften the blow of bailing out on the players. At least for him the order of events didn’t paint him as being the failure here.
Somebody was gonna get thrown under the bus. Wally just made the first move.
I think it's pretty much clear
that most of the coaching positions exist so that a team can scapegoat someone in the future. Has their really ever been evidence of a hitting coach inlfuencing hitters that much?
I believe in pitching and bullpen coaches, since pitching is such a mechanical thing. But hitting is more dynamic. It’s clear from the way the Padres treat their hitting coaches that they think along the same lines. And aside from this year, the previous four years haven’t been that bad for the Padres.
Alderson better be on Too Much Show tomorrow
And if he is, it’s gonna be THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST …
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
You think that,
But Sandy is the king of deflection and Darrin Smith and Philly Billy aren’t exactly kings of the attack interview.
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
Wally...
Are we supposed to be believe that the philosphy of the organization has changed since he was hired? I’m pretty sure that when they approached him about the job they let him know exactly what they were looking for. Did he think it was going to change? I just don’t get it.
And if he thinks it’s ok to go against the philosophy of the organization…it’s not going to be easy to get another job if you have a reputation for only doing things your way.
what it sounds like to me is
he didn’t know that it was different because he was told he was going to be the one coaching the hitters and then he found out that someone was telling them different things and that’s when he found out what exactly their approach to hitting was. i couldn’t imagine there being confusion on his part without him being mislead.
when he is saying its the philosophy of the organization differing from his i think he’s just saying that in a more proffesional way “eff those lousy mother effers they effing went behind my back i effing hate them and its not like they know how to effing play baseball eff!”
"Real baseball should be played in the daytime, in the sunshine." - Lou Gehrig
You're both wrong
It sounds like Wally was going about being a normal hitting instructor unaware that the organization would be giving any other input to the hitters. He eventually found out they were doing so and it frustrated him because he wasn’t told what they were going to be teaching. The way it sounds is that if the organization gave him full control over the hitters, he would have been happy. If the organization had informed him of what their plans/philosophies for the hitters were then he would have been happy. But since they just did (possibly) contradictory stuff with the hitters behind his back, he was unhappy.
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
by Wonko on Sep 24, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be clear
Both Drama and C8LIN B are wrong and you are right, correct? Just so no one else bothers offering up an opinion.
by Winfield's Ghost on Sep 24, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
i wasn't aware
that personal opinons and interpretations could be wrong
but I guess you must be Wally’s best friend and he told you precisely what he meant.
"Real baseball should be played in the daytime, in the sunshine." - Lou Gehrig
So wrong
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
you should really just make that your signature
it will save you lots of time.
"Real baseball should be played in the daytime, in the sunshine." - Lou Gehrig
You're wrong
It was funnier this way.
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
And you are wrong as well
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
Wonko FTW
Drama: “I don’t get it”
C8LIN B: “What it sounds like to me…”
Wonko: “You’re both wrong… Drama, you actually DO get it and C8LIN B, it didn’t actually sound like that to at all”
by Dex on Sep 24, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You're wrong too
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
Tell me...
What’s it like in those closed door meetings you have with Sandy, KT and DePo? Do they have refreshments? Snacks? Does Sandy ever eat a Snickers bar with a knife and fork?
by Drama on Sep 24, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I'd like to know
when these clandestine hitting/coaching sessions started. Was it before or after the Padres received a check from SDGE for generating clean, green, renewable wind energy with 1200 strikeouts?
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
by Axion on Sep 24, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
I'm not sure I can make a judgement
After only hearing one party’s side of the story.
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