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Red Sox claim Brian Giles

Looks to me like the Red Sox put the claim in to block the Rays and Angels who both could potentially use Giles as an extra outfielder in their post season runs. Taking into account the fact that Giles could block a trade with the Red Sox, this looks more like an Epstein metagame move as opposed to loading up the team.

I'd say pretty decent chance Giles stays with the Padres.

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Won't happen

They have zero use for Giles.

But if they want to trade Lester and Ellsbury for him, I’ll listen.

by Dalton on Aug 7, 2008 9:55 AM PDT   0 recs

With David Ortiz wrist problem

Maybe they would pick up Giles for backup. I don’t think Giles will get traded personally but what if they started talks around someone like Jed Lowrie, I would be very interested.

by thepadfather on Aug 7, 2008 10:08 AM PDT   0 recs

Lowrie

Is basically their starting SS at this point. It wouldn’t make sense for them to do that deal.

Hopes meet Dashed. Dashed meet Hopes.

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 12:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

After they trade for Giles

they’re going to call the Mets and ask about Oliver Perez.

by A Whales Vajayjay on Aug 7, 2008 10:41 AM PDT   0 recs

Ellsbury, Pedroia and Papelbon for Giles

_>

"If I wasn't Bob Dylan, I'd probably think that Bob Dylan has a lot of answers myself." - Bob Dylan

by JollyWaffle on Aug 7, 2008 10:46 AM PDT   0 recs

Note to self: don't make ">_>

"If I wasn't Bob Dylan, I'd probably think that Bob Dylan has a lot of answers myself." - Bob Dylan

by JollyWaffle on Aug 7, 2008 10:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

they CAN trade him to Boston

“Giles has a limited no-trade clause, and Boston is among the teams to which he can be traded without his permission.”

by RBS on Aug 7, 2008 10:48 AM PDT   0 recs

Actually, it reads

“cannot be traded without his permission”

If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly

by Boilermaker19 on Aug 7, 2008 10:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They corrected it

It said “can” the first time I went to the link.

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 12:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

fake n bake

www.wellbelowthemendozaline.blogspot.com

by justdave on Aug 7, 2008 12:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tanning booths in Boston differ from the San Diego ones?

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

no theyre the same

just wayyy more crowded.

i just moved back here from there in late FebTober

www.wellbelowthemendozaline.blogspot.com

by justdave on Aug 7, 2008 1:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Update from Tom Krasovic...

More info concerning the possible Padres-Red Sox trade involving Giles.

The close relationship between Padres General Manager Kevin Towers and Red Sox GM Theo Epstein, his former top assistant, can only help the chances of a deal getting done within the 48-hour window.

By getting creative, Towers and Epstein might arrange for Giles to return to the Padres this offseason.

Giles’ contract stipulates a $9 million club option for 2009 with a $3 million buyout; if he is traded, the option - in addition to his current $9 million salary - would rise to $11 million.

Giles can decide to ride out the season with the Padres. Or the Red Sox simply might choose to block the right fielder from being traded to another playoff contender.

Nonetheless, there are three potential winners to a trade—the Padres, Red Sox and Giles.

Giles could gain at least $600,000 in extra salary, plus the chance to play for the defending World Series champions with the possibility of returning to San Diego next season.

by Drama on Aug 7, 2008 2:31 PM PDT   0 recs

Hopefully

he’ll go all Geoff Blum on us, I’ll be really happy for the dude if he does.

by A Whales Vajayjay on Aug 7, 2008 2:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Just to clarify

I mean get traded, hit an important homerun for WS champ, then return home to us for next year.

by A Whales Vajayjay on Aug 7, 2008 2:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I've been advocating this for a while

The important homerun is a new twist. If a team buys out his option, it probably means he won’t want as much money for 2009, plus he’s getting old and may want to retire a Padre. It would be easy enough for him to come back at a reduced price instead of the Padres keeping him this year, and picking up his $9 million option.

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I like this idea

Rows of lights to illuminate lines
Why don't they turn them off and let us see night
Drove crazed, grooming my lies
You can't look in on one way eyes

by CurbEnthusiasm on Aug 7, 2008 7:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How exciting would it be

If the Nationals were to sweep the DH and the Mariners win tonight, making a 3 way tie for the Strasburg? It makes me all tingly on the inside.

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 3:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh yeah

I guess the Mariners would have to lose to get in a three way tie, not win. We lead them by a 1/2 game going into their game tonight.

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 3:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We're tied

for last first now right?

Baseball was, is and always will be to me the best game in the world. -Babe Ruth

by sdsuaztec4 on Aug 7, 2008 3:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahh Shiz

Half game out.

Baseball was, is and always will be to me the best game in the world. -Babe Ruth

by sdsuaztec4 on Aug 7, 2008 3:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OMG

Nationals up 4-2 in the bottom of the 2nd in game 2.

Lastings Milledge and Emilio Bonifacio have sure put a spark into these guys.

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 3:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

AM I LATE GIZE?

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Aug 7, 2008 5:12 PM PDT   0 recs

When does it officially become a fire sale???

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar Exam.

by Demoira on Aug 7, 2008 5:14 PM PDT   0 recs

When you get rid of players

And don’t ask for anything of value in return

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 7, 2008 5:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So we're just waiting to see if we

1) actually give Briles away
2) actually fail to get anything in return

Then we can call it a fire sale and look forward to many years of ”. . . and we gave away so-and-so who is now doing amazing for such-and-such team” right?

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar Exam.

by Demoira on Aug 7, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I actually love this move.

If we get back even ONE good prospect and get Giles back at a cheaper price next season…it’s brilliant.

by Drama on Aug 7, 2008 6:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's some pretty big IFs

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar Exam.

by Demoira on Aug 7, 2008 6:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Theo and KT work well together.

I have faith this is going to work out great for us. We deserve something to go right.

by Drama on Aug 7, 2008 7:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

like cla meredith

by sacpadre on Aug 7, 2008 7:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not fair.

Cla was AWESOME his first year.

by Drama on Aug 7, 2008 7:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You think Theo's going to ley KT skin him again

ala Bard and Meredith for Jackass Mirabelli? I tend to think he’s learned his lesson….

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar Exam.

by Demoira on Aug 7, 2008 7:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That was different.

That was Theo’s own fault. He got backed into a corner and made a huge mistake. He knows that. This isn’t like when Jon Daniels and KT cruised up to Daniels suite at the Hyatt during the GM meetings and woke up 24 hours later in a bathtub of ice without a liver and a cordless telephone duct-taped to his hand.

by Drama on Aug 7, 2008 7:26 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

"ley"? Did you mean "let" there?

Someone has their mind in the gutter.

by Drama on Aug 7, 2008 7:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Can't be helped.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar Exam.

by Demoira on Aug 7, 2008 8:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey Paders fans...

How would Giles handle CF? He’s one of he best corner outfielders according to the zone-based defensive ratings. Is there a reason that wouldn’t translate into at least a league-average CF? If so, the Red Sox might have put Giles in center and benched Coco/Ellsbury.

Also, why wouldn’t any NL teams claim Giles? The Mets and Cardinal have big OF holes, and Giles’ contract is a favorable one.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 8, 2008 2:08 PM PDT   0 recs

Actually Giles has played CF

a couple times for SD. I have at least one photo of him there, at Petco, to prove it.

Irregardless of where he plays, he goes all out. The Padres season is TOAST, but he still goes after every ball hit, full speed into the wall if needed.

He is still fun to watch and brings shenanigans to the otherwise shambles of a season.

The 8 teams Giles can veto, including 4 NL teams: Baltimore, Boston, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Florida, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh and Washington.

Chicks Dig the Bullpen. Last years.

by eastbaysd on Aug 8, 2008 2:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Waivers

Most teams have a sense of who teams will really let through waivers. The Cards and Mets probably knew that they would have to work out a deal to get Giles. For all we know they have already inquired about Giles earlier and didn’t like the price (in prospects). Giles was never going to be released so a claiming team is just waiting their time trying to claim him and by blocking the player for the sake of blocking him they risk creating bad relations with a future trade partner. Not to mention Giles was going to cost the claiming team at least $7 million ($2 million poison pill + $5 million buyout for 2009) plus his remaining 2008 salary for less than 2 months of work. Plenty of players make it through waivers and plenty of players don’t get claimed even though they would be useful to teams. Teams just know that they have to pick their battles. In this case, the Red Sox thought it was worth all this to keep Giles away from a couple of contenders and to make a play at him for themselves.

As for the CF thing. I’d have to think Drew is a better CF right now than the 38 year old San Diegan.

I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.

by Wonko on Aug 8, 2008 2:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I imagine he'd be capable,

but i’ve always gotten the impression that he doesn’t really have the stamina and range for CF. He’s all-out in RF, though, and the idea of someone else having to learn the Petco RF quirks terrifies me.

Capri. Denial. It's a sweet sweet place; come join me....

by Demoira on Aug 8, 2008 9:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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