The Times story link has changed; so has the contents. The Pads are eating some portion of his salary but not all of it; that makes this deal unlike most the McCourts have pushed for (“revenue neutral” has been their favorite catchphrase this trade season). If the Padres were to eat most of Maddux’s salary, they would necessarily have to ask for James McDonald, the best remaining pitching prospect in the organization.

If he comes up he’ll feel like he needs to prove himself in the majors. He’s already pitched a lot of innings this year. No need to risk him getting hurt. After his early season struggles I’m not even sure he’s ready yet. It’s better to throw some tired old arms out there and let them take the injury risk where it won’t cost us anything if they get hurt.

The Dodgers already have the best pitching staff in the National League. Maddux is just insurance.

Fans actually like watching him pitch. He’s one of only about three entertaining players on the team. He makes the team better. It helps the Dodgers and we get a cut in payroll and entertainment value.

That settles it.
KT is an outta-the-closet Dud luver.

Why should we be HELPING them since they lost Pennyless to the DL???

It’s like Sleeping With the Enemy.

Are for a player to be named later. It makes it so that you don’t have to worry about the whole waivers thing. It also buys you time. You usually have a list of guys that are possible trade candidates and you can continue to evaluate them for the rest of the year. It protects you against surprise in-season injuries and you don’t have to use a roster space for the guy. Trust me when I say that the deal had 0 percent chance of going any other way. Even the Adam Dunn deal was for basically 3 PTBNLs, where one of them is Owings, in theory, since he is on the DL and didn’t clear waivers and technically can’t be traded.

I still play that game a lot!
on topic I hope we can get something reasonably decent for Maddux. Also would be nice to see him back with the Padres in 2009, but I’m guessing that’s kinda of fool’s hope

right tec?

But Maddux has already played for the Dodgers. It’s not like he’s adding a new team. Or does he now have to add the Dodgers logo twice to the hat?

“Mr Maddux, what team logo would you like on your cap?”
“I’ll take two Cubs, annnn Atlanta Braves, one Padre logo, and a Dodg… make that two Dodger logos.”

I would insert a Dodger edition Manny with the cartoon eyes and mouth saying “Hey Guys!” here.

The Dodgers could probably make the playoffs by adding a league average arm like Maddux. It really takes that little—think of what the Padres could have done down the stretch last year by taking innings away from Tomko/Germano/Thompson/Stauffer and giving them to a 100 ERA+ guy. Average would have gotten the job done.

so I don’t mind either. He just wants to finish out his career in a place where he’s happy.

I don’t like the idea of making the Dodgers better. If they win the NL West it’s our fault.

That the Dodgers are giving up two PTBNLs like someone posted then it would seem that the Padres are probably getting quantity over quality (most likely because the Dodgers wouldn’t give up quality). That isn’t to say that they won’t be decent prospects, but most likely neither will be in the top 10 Dodger prospects. And, if the prospects are pitchers, then better to have 2 than 1 (TNSTAAP).

If we reference the Randy Wolf trade, where the Astros got a slightly worse pitcher for longer and were bidding for his services, the Padres got back an okay prospect. Reineke probably would slot in around #15 on the Dodgers prospect list. It would be somewhat reasonable to expect a similar return. However, like I said above, if we get 2 prospects, then I’d assume they will be of lesser value than that. But I still consider either return a good haul considering that Maddux has very little use for the Padres at this point (aside from entertaining fans for ~7 more starts).