Scott Miller rips the Padres
Polarizing sports writer Scott Miller tears into the Padres again.
Marital squabble adds to Padres' woes
The '08 Padres have been sabotaged by poor personnel decisions, underperforming players, injuries, a string of disastrous drafts and, most noticeably, a change in philosophy as general manager Kevin Towers' autonomy has eroded with CEO Sandy Alderson and special assistant Paul DePodesta taking more control of baseball decisions.
It's one thing to blame Sandy but DePo too? Maybe Miller has gone too far this time.
Miller goes on to talk about the rumored payroll cut and the attempted trades of Maddux and Giles to dump their salaries. He points again to the fact that John and Becky Moores are getting divorced. The good news is he has some sources that can speak off the record with absolutely no corroboration.
Sources close to the club say each of the Moores wants to keep the Padres, a competition that should be more riveting than anything that happens to an overmatched club on the field in the near future.
So they're going to fight over the Padres, but how are the Padres going to improve? Well the only way to find out is to get information from an anonymous NL executive. Yes!
One NL executive this week said, "The only thing it appears they can do is to either overpay for a couple of big (free agents), or trade Jake Peavy for a bunch of prospects. What else can they do?"
Overpay? Big free agent? Trade? Does this NL executive know what team he's talking about? This is the Padres, we do none of those things. Miller knows though:
Overpaying -- or even paying market value -- for free agents is almost certainly out of the question under Moores, because once he parlayed the success of the Kevin Brown-Ken Caminiti-Tony Gwynn '98 Padres into inducing San Diegans to vote for a new ballpark, he never has spent as much as promised.
Ah, the promise that meant something different to every fan. Don't blame me, I wanted a new library not a new ballpark. Down with Prop C!
Also they can't trade Peavy without his consent because they hand out full no trade clauses like beach towels. So their only hope is to make sure that Peavy wants to leave. Another season like this and that shouldn't be a problem.
"I certainly think we need to look at the way we see things," Peavy says. "Evaluating whether or not we're going in the right direction."
Then as if things couldn't get any worse, Miller breaks this news:
Hoffman definitely wants to play again next season.
Yay?
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The nicest thing I can say is
That at least their is some depth to this article. He doesn’t just quote an anonymous source and make a couple snarky comments.
The anonymous source thing got beat to death yesterday. The quoting of the NL executive is another silly device. How would that person have any knowledge about the situation. They are an outsider just like the rest of us. They do not have the internal scouting information, financial figures or other internal tools that their rival team would have. It’s one thing to ask that person to describe their current situation, but to have them try to speculate on the Padres future is a bit of a stretch.
The 1998 thing is so ancient history and if anything, hasn’t the loss of players following the season been seen as prescient at this point? How many good seasons came out of Vaughn, Caminiti, Brown, and Hamilton following that season. Finley obviously went on to take an unusual career path that I don’t think even the DBacks could have anticipated. The Padres would have been hemorrhaging money and losing far too many games with that core had they kept it together. If only they could have turned the draft picks they received into something.
Which brings us to the Kevin Towers loss of autonomy. Am I the only one who still sees that as a good thing? There a things that Towers does very well (trading, bringing in productive veterans, among others) but the drafting and player development side was lacking for years. Bringing in Alderson, Fuson, Gayton, and DePodesta has been the answer to shoring up those front office weaknesses. Most teams have a large group of important individuals who manage the front office, the days of the one-man-runs-all GM are gone as the information has made it impossible for one man to keep up. I’m sure that even Towers’ ego is hurt by these appointments, he also would know that it is probably the best way to go for the franchise.
I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.
The comment about
“not spending as much as promised” is so completely asinine. I would really love for someone to produce an article where Moores said, “Once we have a new ballpark, I will spend about $70 M a year” or “we’ll be in the upper-half of league payrolls”.
The guy said we’d be competitive. Outside of this disastrous season, that has been true. We had four winning seasons in a row with 2 playoff appearances and narrowly missing one more. How does that not qualify as compettive?
And what the hell is this guy smoking? Has he seen the NL West? It’s not going to take that much to right the ship. We need solid pitching. Done.
UGH
I don’t want to go back to 2005. I want a good team regardless of what division we’re in. I want a team that could compete with the AL East day to day. That’s the kind of thing that gets me to the ballpark. Not the chance of playing playoff games.
I need to be enticed to go to games 6 months out of the year. Screw the playoffs as long as I can be entertained the rest of the time.
by Dex on Aug 15, 2008 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think what he is saying is
For 2009 we can right the ship pretty easily to stay competitive. I’m sure Phantom would be the first to add the caveat that we would still need to be progressing toward a good team while righting the ship.
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Trevor time
The Hoffman news, if there is any truth to it, is clearly the most alarming. But until an anonymous source backs up the information, how can we know?
Trevor
Although I stay away from the knee-jerk ripping of him that seems to be so fashionable around here these days, I was hoping Trevor would call it quits after this season. He has pitched much better recently, but I’m with the majority who believe his early season struggles would only be more protracted if he pitches another season. That being said, if he wants to come back next year, why not let him? Let’s face it, we’re not winning next year either. We won’t be as bad, we hope, but do we really believe the front office is going to do something over the off season to make us contenders next year, even in this joke of a division? Maybe I’m in the minority in thinking that, but I have very little faith at this point. Do we really want Trevor to get number 600 in another uniform? If he wants to come back and try for that milestone, we should let him. And it seems to me like he’s been quite an asset to our craphole of a bullpen lately, coming into games he should have never had to and bailing out the morons in front of him. He’s proven he can still pitch, and unless we get major upgrades to our bullpen before next year, hell, we’ll need him. If there is a better place to put the money that would be owed Trevor, and the front office is willing to put it there (always the question with these guys), fine, but like I said, this is as much about my lack of faith in the FO as it is my love for Trevor. I’d rather watch a mediocre team with Trevor Hoffman than one without him. And maybe we get a nice milestone to celebrate and are able to send him off to the Hall of Fame on less of a crap note. That being said, PLEASE RETIRE AFTER THIS YEAR, TREVOR! (But if you come back I’ll still love you!)
Padres for life
Trevor
I know I would love to have Trevor on my Fantasy Team this year. I drafted 7 starting Closers, 1 is still a closer…..That is all.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra
Does anyone know anything about Becky?
I was surprised to read that she wants the team. Does she just want it because it’s an asset? Or is she really interested in owning and running the team?
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Aug 15, 2008 8:34 AM PDT reply actions
I dunno if the team is really the asset
The team by itself runs barely profitable. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wants in on that MLBAM share that comes along with being an owner. That’s gotta be worth a billion by itself.
Yep
Ownership brings its own set of benefits that are in no way related to profits. Most teams fail to turn a profit or make negligible amounts of money. All of the money that Moores has made is related to the property he’s developed around Petco, and not profits from operations.
The team may not be bringing in lots of cash...
but the appreciation in value alone makes it worth hanging onto. According to Forbes, he bought the team for $94 mil in 1994 and it’s now worth $385 mil. That’s a pretty nice investment even if the team isn’t making money each year.
by theodore donald kerabatsos on Aug 15, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Right
It’s an asset in that she can sell it at some point and get hundreds of millions for free. The cynics of the world would also say that divorce is messy and people are vindictive, some women may want their husband’s stuff just so their husband can’t have it.
I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.
This is true
in the sense that it’s worth something once you sell it. But it’s sort of like any long-term investement in that sense. Your stocks aren’t worth anything until you sell them. So while their share price may rise and fall throughout their years, they’re really only worth the dividends you receive until you sell them.
Not entirely true, but good analogy
All assets are worth something above then just when you sell them. Probably their best asset is that you can use them for collateral and receive cheap cashflow that can be used for more wealth building. Most of us don’t really comprehend this since we borrow to buy stuff, instead of borrowing to finance business ideas, investment opportunies, etc.
That is HUGE.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra
Whoa
Arizona’s sweet-swinging pitcher, Micah Owings , is headed for Cincinnati as one of the two players-to-be-named later in this week’s Adam Dunn deal. One problem holding it up: Owings currently is on the disabled list.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
I'm a little surprised
That he got through waivers. Or maybe he didn’t and they won’t send him there until the season is over.
I don't have to always be right. I just have to always think I'm right.
I'm surprised because PTBNL
usually just means, “Someone Axion has never heard of.”
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
He bats better than he pitches.
Maybe they are going to put him in the outfield.
by Zach (maestro876) on Aug 15, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not the worst idea
Play him everyday and see how it goes. Pitch him as a long reliever or mop-up guy while the experiment is in place. Somehow I don’t see Dusty Baker going for this, no matter how much better Owings hits compared to Corey “I use Dusty’s Toothpick as a Bat” Patterson.
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