Draft Day Discussion
by Dex on Jun 5, 2008 7:13 AM PDT
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PrintThe draft is going to happen today and the Padres have several picks. I don't claim to follow the draft very closely, but I'm more than willing to hear all about guys you think will be getting firesold away from the Padres in 8 years, so consider this an Open Thread.
Paul DePodesta has a post up about draft strategy and the thought of getting players who will be big leaguers as opposed to "high ceiling" guys. It's essentially one of the Moneyball themes to not become totally enamored with guys that look good in baseball pants and instead look for MLB caliber guys.
At this point, I'll settle for either one. If we're gonna field a sub .400 winning percentage, at least give me some eye candy. ROWR!
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Yahoo guy
Just posted this in SLPiH, but the Yahoo guy has us picking a first baseman out of Cal. That doesn’t really make sense in any way, but thanks Yahoo guy.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 7:18 AM PDT reply actions
thinking 4 years out
Sure. Why not. Light a fire under Adrian’s lazy butt.
by Dex on Jun 5, 2008 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Then
that would be lighting a fire under Kyle Blanks’ butt, too, I guess.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. He needs to get taller to be pro.
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
by friarinchicago on Jun 5, 2008 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
First one is Yaw, second one Yaw, third one is Yay.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Steve Henson at Yaw-hoo also has this:
Boston Red Sox – Reese Havens, SS (South Carolina): The Red Sox have long coveted the cerebral, mistake-free Havens despite his relatively low ceiling. Havens is the type of player who makes his teammates better, a consistent performer and leader. If he doesn’t make it on the field, he might join Theo Epstein in the front office before he’s 30.
Wow. We can also draft potential GMs??? KT is getting up there in yrs…
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 7:40 AM PDT reply actions
Geoff Young at Ducksnorts
has a nice little breakdown of who he’d like us to pop at 23 and who he thinks we will pop at 23. It’s pretty good reading for anyone unfamiliar with these kinds of propsects.
Mock Drafts...
This guy says we’re taking Daniel Schlereth. LHP from the University of Arizona.
This guy says we’re taking Shooter Hunt. RHP from Tulane.
This guy says we’re taking Luke Burnett. RHP from Louisiana Tech.
mock drafts are great
When I did my mock draft, I projected us taking Schlereth and then Hunt and Burnett in a groundbreaking “two for one”, so I don’t know what these chumps are talking about.
by Dex on Jun 5, 2008 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Schlereth would be such a bad pick here
I just said the same thing over at DS, but people have been in love with him since he was 14 yrs old because his dad is Mark Schlereth. He was absolutely overrated in the state of CO as a high school player because of that fact and he’s way too high on people’s boards right now because of his bloodlines. Taking him would be a mistake.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
More on Schlereth
Baseball America is projecting we’ll take him.
The Padres could go in a number of directions, depending on what happens in front of them. They’d like a quality righthanded college bat, but almost all of the top hitters are lefties. If it’s a pitcher, they seem to be zeroing in one of the Arizona relievers, Perry or Schlereth, over a starter such as Hunt. San Diego values pitchability, so rumors that Mississippi righthander Lance Lynn is a candidate won’t die, though he’d be a reach.
Yes on Alex, No on Daniel
I’ll tell you right now – he’ll never throw a pitch at the major league level.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Finally
I have a title. And its not profane.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Sports Illustrated
has an interesting piece about Matt Bush. Apparently he’s attained a rare mythos as a 1-1 flameout (thanks a lot for recovering, Josh Hamilton!).
I really hate these kind of articles
As Dex points out on a near weekly basis, the baseball draft is broken. Every year, every single team passes over a guy who makes it. Criticizing a team for those “mistakes” is just ridiculous. Certainly, when you have a run of guys who haven’t made it, the criticisms become louder, but every team every year passes over a guy who makes it. It’s so dumb.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmm...
I’ve noticed you’ve been really kissing Dex’s ass quite a bit as of late. You trying to get a raise? A corner office at GLB Headquarters?
I already have a corner office
I thought everyone did. You don’t? Oh, awkward…
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
What???
“And I said, I don’t care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Dex that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I’m, I’m quitting, I’m going to quit. And, and I told jbox too, because they’ve moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were married, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn’t bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it’s not okay because if they take my stapler then I’ll set the building on fire…”
Any thoughs on who TB is gonna take?
I say they’ll take Posey, but they should take Alvarez.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:09 AM PDT reply actions
Everyone is saying
they’ve committed to Beckham. Posey is reportedly going to fall all the way past the Giants since he’s looking for like $8M +.
I heard they are taking Beckham
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And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life...
What a disappointment
to see that Steve Philips is covering this for ESPN. Blech.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply actions
woah did you see bud selig?
he was lit all weird like a ghostly obi-wan kenobi, except evil looking.
it was like the emperor in the obi-wan ghost effect.
I was thinking
it was like that old Abe Lincoln thing at Disneyland where he’s kind of a hologram.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Ravech
just felt it was necessary to point that Beckham is African-American. While they were showing us footage of him.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:18 AM PDT reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
Poor Karl. He suffered brain damage when they attached that dead animal to his scalp.
“WHAT’S THAT ON YOUR HEAD?“
“A WIG!!”
It's so horrible.
Speaking of the B-52’s…did you see Fred Schneider on The Daily Show reading excerpts from McClellan’s book?? Oh my God. I was on the floor. I love me some Fred.
Yes that was fantastic
Fred is always funny.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Selig is so bad at this
Bad at everything really, but really bad at this.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:23 AM PDT reply actions
Gawd, AH...
Just say, “Pirates pick (name).”
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These guys are a riot
Keith Law on Beckham: “Best chance of anyone in this draft to be a real superstar.”
Jim Callan on Alvarez: “Best chance of anyone in the draft to be an All-Star.”
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions
Not ever
They just called Beckham at his house. He had the TV on full blast in the background and everything was echoing and it was impossible to understand everything.
That’s the baseball draft in a nutshell right there.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Bud doesn't even seem like knows the team names
“With the third pick in the draft, the Kansas City…uherah…Royals select…”
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
LOL
They called Hosmer – connection was worse than with Beckham and they just hung up.
Oh, MLB.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
Each team should have one minute
This is taking too long.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
USD kid to Baltimore
Ater Ravich announced KC was picking AGAIN.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
Orioles take the USD kid
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Giants are up
I want them to draft Zito.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply actions
Hahaha
I actually want Havens for us. Let him play for ten yrs then take over for KT.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
I just heard the Griffy 600 commercial…
Two names are missing from that list….
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LOL
are you serious? I wasn’t listening. That’s great.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
It was on a blog the other day that I didn't link
As Griffey approaches 600, MLB whitewashes history
"Willie Mays, September 22, 1969…600.
Babe Ruth, August 21, 1931…600.
Hank Aaron, April 27, 1971…600."Then the screen flips to Griffey, who sits at 599, and he says, "Ken Griffey Jr…. keep watching."
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There is something crazy hot about her.
The greatest line from “Best in Show”: “What are you, a wizard? A genius?”
"I was at Starbucks and he was at the other Starbucks across the street..."
Agreed on the crazy hot thing.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Crazy ass broad.
Would hit.
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Posey says this is the best day of his life
They must not have told him it was the Giants that picked him.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:43 AM PDT reply actions
You know what would make this more interesting?
Show us who the hs guys took to prom. You can tell a lot about a guy based on that one fact.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply actions
2nd'd
Also need to cut the cooldown time to 2:30, add whammies
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Referencetown
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Would be great
“This guy can hit to all fields, has a great glove and based on this chick he took to prom, he REALLY knows what he’s doing. Tremendous upside.”
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
perhaps...
but it could be that the nicer chick he takes to prom, the more likely he’ll be to get distracted by someone in the minors.
lol
What if they’re trying the Todd Walker method to curing a slump?
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This is an old quote from the Jim Rome show
but I believe it was “putting the wood to the fattest, ugliest chick you can find.”
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Ugh
You guys are lucky you’re not listening on XM. They are playing “Shadowplay” by the Killers for every player profile they run after a player is selected. It’s really aggravating, especially since The Killers sound like a Polka band on speed in that song.
this is so lame
nobody applauds. if nobody’s gonna applaud then they should’ve had them in a smoke filled room with the picks being handed up to him on postit notes and index cards.
Astros select Jason Castro
That guy can sing AND catch???
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions
And lead rogue nations!
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Connoisseur of fine tobaccos
The upside is immeasurable!
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I wish I was in the Padres draft room
That would be fun to have them throw prospective picks my way.
“Not sexy enough! This one’s almost sexy enough! THIS ONE’S TOO SEXY! TOO SEXY!”
Justin Smoak!
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He went a little higher than projected, didn't he?
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
D'oh!
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
by friarinchicago on Jun 5, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Look forward to
Shelling him/watching him commit E’s
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Beckham
Has far too many facial expressions to be compared to Khalil.
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He was way nervous
Wears his hat poorly, too.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
There goes Cooper
Good. Now we can’t draft him. Take that, Yahoo guy!!!
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions
You really hate the idea
of taking a 1B eh? Even if he’s “the best talent available?”
I mean, we would always be able to trade him.
If we were picking top 5, then I'd say okay
if there was a 1B guy rated in that top 5. But when you get out of the top 5 – maybe top 10 – I just don’t see the logic in drafting for a position that we seem fairly solid at. I know we could always trade him – but I want to see guys come up and play for us, not someone else. Purely a personal preference on my part.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally reasonable
I think the Padres have just been blasted lately for not picking the best guy available. Of course, I think many of these people don’t know shit when they complain, so we’ll see what happens.
Right
I’d also be more comfortable with a hs 1B because he’d take more time to develop and who knows what will happen. But – in theory – a college 1B should be ready to go much quicker.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I say pick best available
Regardless of position. We’re projecting in most cases at least 3 years away and I’m not gonna say we’re solid at any position in the year 2011. Plus, one of our biggest weaknesses is lack of depth.
The problem with "best available"
is that no one knows who that is after you get out of the top 5, maybe the top 10.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but what i’m saying is the padres should pick the guy they think the best guy regardless of position the guy’s listed at. a good number of guys will be converted in some way anyway.
So would you take a 1B over a SS
given that apparently we only play 8 guys out in the field and leave the SS position vacant on our minor league clubs?
And again I mean at the 23rd pick – if we’re at the top of the draft, I 100% agree with you – but to me the further you drop down, you have to pay some attention to position.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I should add
I’m not being argumentative – I’m just curious as to the thought process.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
my thought process
In the age of free agency, I don’t count on anybody being on the team after this year. Better to load up with the best guy (as projected). My thinking is
by Dex on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yahoo! is dead on lately.
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There goes another guy
that the Padres were probably tracking. Damn.
Plus, how cool would it be to have a guy named Ike?
Well crap
I think I’ll be at lunch when we pick…
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Yeah
I think there are definitely some quality guys gonna be available.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
that really is crazy
be interesting to see what happens.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm totally gonna apply for the post
if you people think i don’t pay attention to padres baseball, wait till you see how little i pay attention to every other sport in the world.
by Dex on Jun 5, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure you'll wow them
I’m just not sure in what way.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS.
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
by friarinchicago on Jun 5, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Richie's son?
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
by friarinchicago on Jun 5, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Shooter Hunt is still there
And that is an awesome name…
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions
I know. And I'm at work where Cardinals and Cub fans are fighting already.
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
by friarinchicago on Jun 5, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Brewers took the real son of Lenny
Cutter goes to the Brew Crew in the second round. I guess they like a good gene pool too.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
Graduate of Rancho Bernardo HS
Do we even look at guys out of the county?
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions
No way, that's work.
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
by friarinchicago on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That looks
like a pretty mediocre pick to make as your first one. Ofcourse I might be absolutely mistaken because I don’t have any experience with the concept of a Draft. We don’t have something similar in European Sports
by sixpakfrombelgium on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions
Well, without Weeks I was set to be a little disappointed no matter what.
With a name like Smuckers, it has to be good!
Well that was a big letdown
I’m gonna check and see who made the All-CIF teams three and four yrs ago to figure out who we’ll pick later on.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
That really irritates me
So much has been made of avoiding Boras guys when we pick at the top, but it’s okay to deal with him later in the round? Makes no sense.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, this is encouraging
As I wrote the other day, this isn’t a need-based pick. Allan is a San Diego native from Rancho Bernardo HS who has been an All-American at Wake Forest. He’s 6′5″, almost 250 lbs and has monster power. Most importantly, he has skills to go along with that raw power.Allan has had an unbelievably consistent collegiate career, as he’s hit at least 15 homers while also drawing at least 50 walks in each of his three seasons – something nobody else in this draft has done. Allan also produced in the Cape Cod League batting over .300 with walks and power, so he has also proven his skills with a wood bat. In short, his track record is impeccable.
Given his size, power, and patience, comparisions have been drawn to Jim Thome
Yeah
They do a lot more research into this stuff than I do. I won’t even try and second guess DePodesta and crew when it comes to the draft.
Well sure
But I’d expect them to focus on all the guy’s positives. The problem for me is that this guy probably would’ve been there at their next pick.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not need based...
Then why did we reach for the guy. Most had him going in the supp round. I even saw someone say he would got in the 3rd or 4th. Why do we want a power hitting DH?
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
Oh and by the way
Dykstra went to the same high school as me and is not related to Lenny. Lenny’s son Cutter is draft eligible though.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
I don't think anyone here
can answer that, but I bet if you keep an eye on DePo’s blog he will let you know.
Apparently, a Gaslamp Baller is in the war room
Not DePo. I’m gonna try to get her to take a photo of the action.
Yeah
DS is very much not pleased at all – they feel that Dykstra would have been available.
Cole allegedly wants a ton of cash.
Cole
That’s fine – avoid him – I have zero problem with that. But why do you take a guy that by most accounts was going to be there 20 spots later?
Just baffles me.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
A lot of guys have been popped much earlier than anyone thought they would. I’m not sure if the Padres were just unprepared for these contingencies, or if they legitimately felt that Dykstra was a special talent.
If DePo supports this, should we?
It's hard to say (for me)
The weird thing is that the first 22 picks, with maybe one or two exceptions, were pretty much guys projected to go in the first 22 picks. Then this comes out of nowhere. I really appreciate what DePo has to say about the guy, but it really makes me wonder what their board looked like. What I’d really like – and hope we get to some degree – is why they felt the need to grab him at 23.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I think maybe the fact that he already has wood bat experience, and power that probably won’t be affected by Petco park played into it. I am looking forward to hearing what he has to say.
He had
his blog post up moments after he was picked, so he must have been ready for it. I guess just because people project that he will go later doesn’t mean he would. Maybe there are some other teams right now kicking themselves because they didn’t expect the Padres to take him so early.
Right
And I’m pretty sure we’ll hear some version of that. The problem is knowing how much truth there is in that.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
about that. A bunch of guys popped releivers way earlier than anyone thought. Shooter is still on the board, as is Collier.
Sure
but by and large, most of the guys picked were tagged as first round guys. You can even look at the picks after the Pads. There were really only maybe three, four at the most, who came out of nowhere.
Again – I think an explanation as to why he was the right guy at 23 would be helpful.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
A "Fuson" guy
I saw someone refer to Dykstra as this. I think Dykstra was higher on their draft board because they prefer his skill set (Patience and Power) moreso than other teams. This fits in with picks Fuson has made in the past (like Headley). I would rather have taken Hewitt or one of the falling pitchers (Freidrich) as long as we’re not drafting for organizational need.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
I'm hoping we draft another first baseman
just to completely blow WG’s mind.
by Dex on Jun 5, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, look.
Tony Clark can’t be our backup 1B forever.
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Dykstra is described more as a DH than a 1B.
So in that sense we have yet to draft a 1B.
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OMG, I just figured it out
We are getting sent to the AL West!
nnooooooOOOOOOOooooooo!
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At least we wouldn't have to deal with dodger fans anymore.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
Red Sox get Kelly
I know the Pads couldn’t risk taking a guy who has signed to play fball, but if he chooses baseball, we’re gonna hate that we missed on him.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions
That's a massive 'if'
I don’t think the Padres can afford to gamble that much.
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Oh I totally agree
They couldn’t have taken him. But he’ll be one of those guys that people curse about, not recalling the extenuating circumstances.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Seriously. This is so bad. And for what really?
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the draft
is for us fans who care way too much about the team. It lets us get incredibly indignant about things we truly know so little about.
by Phantom on Jun 5, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rapid fire!
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No its someone else
Not sure who it is. MUCH more efficient.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Roy Krasik
So promoted….
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"Comparisons to Matt Stairs"
Signed with ASU.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB.com has this to say
While most people were looking at Decker as a hitter, there probably are still some who might consider him on the mound. He can throw upwards of 93 mph with a decent curve, and that arm strength serves him well in the outfield. He’s got a pretty good approach as a hitter and has the chance to hit for pretty good power, looking like a Matt Stairs-like right fielder in the future
Trust me
Padres don’t consider him a pitcher. It makes no sense to convert a good high school hitter to the mound. You can always convert them later if need be and you end up saving wear and tear on their arm.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
And that's JAFF
LAFF!
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Uh oh
I think John may go by Logan.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
From BP's Kevin Goldstein
46. Padres, John Forsyth, 3b, Arkansas
More average than power, not especialy toolsy, polished approach, a VERY VERY San Diego pick
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
Savior Junior?
You could copy and paste that comment from KG for Savior and no one would know.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
Answer: "Not especially toolsy...."
Question: How did every one of my ex-girlfriends describe my performance when making whoopee?
Found this comment on SignOnSanDiego pre draft
Clearly offense should be a priority for the Padres staff IMHO. What prospects do you see them going after in the early rounds? I hope the Padres use one of their 3rd round picks to get Arkansas’ 3B Logan Forsythe. Rated by Baseball America as the best player in AR and the 76th overall prospect. Has a great power bat and a strong/accurate arm. Plus he’s versatile – can play 2B, OF, or C. Couldn’t go wrong with him..by ARkieBoltGO PADRES!!
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GO HOGS GO!!!
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From BaseballAnalysts.com
46. San Diego Padres
Logan Forsythe, 3B, University of Arkansas Height/Weight: 6-1, 205 | Age: 212008: .353/.479/.533 | 184 AB | 65 H | 8 2B | 2 3B | 7 HR | 46 BB-26 SOA stress fracture in his foot has slowed Forsythe this season and he may end up as one of the steals of the draft. He has good line-drive power and could develop more home run power as he matures. Forsythe has been likened to Mike Lowell by Baseball America. He is a good athlete and has an above-average arm, so he could also play at second base or in the outfield. (Posted by Marc Hulet and Rich)
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trying again
46. San Diego Padres
Logan Forsythe, 3B, University of Arkansas Height/Weight: 6-1, 205 | Age: 212008: .353/.479/.533 | 184 AB | 65 H | 8 2B | 2 3B | 7 HR | 46 BB-26 SOA stress fracture in his foot has slowed Forsythe this season and he may end up as one of the steals of the draft. He has good line-drive power and could develop more home run power as he matures. Forsythe has been likened to Mike Lowell by Baseball America. He is a good athlete and has an above-average arm, so he could also play at second base or in the outfield. (Posted by Marc Hulet and Rich)I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
One more time?
46. San Diego Padres
Logan Forsythe, 3B, University of Arkansas Height/Weight: 6-1, 205 | Age: 212008: .353/.479/.533 | 184 AB | 65 H | 8 2B | 2 3B | 7 HR | 46 BB-26 SOA stress fracture in his foot has slowed Forsythe this season and he may end up as one of the steals of the draft. He has good line-drive power and could develop more home run power as he matures. Forsythe has been likened to Mike Lowell by Baseball America. He is a good athlete and has an above-average arm, so he could also play at second base or in the outfield. (Posted by Marc Hulet and Rich)I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
This is ridculous
A stress fracture in his foot has slowed Forsythe this season and he may end up as one of the steals of the draft. He has good line-drive power and could develop more home run power as he matures. Forsythe has been likened to Mike Lowell by Baseball America. He is a good athlete and has an above-average arm, so he could also play at second base or in the outfield. (Posted by Marc Hulet and Rich)
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
That actually sounds quite good.
Hope he can come through at another position than 3B though
by sixpakfrombelgium on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
We'll see where we are
in 3 years. No use moving him yet.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
I see
really have little experience with this Draft thing so I don’t really have a clue about the potential impact of these picks.
by sixpakfrombelgium on Jun 5, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
3 years is a good rule of thumb for high draft picks
Some guys move faster, but they have to really dominate in the minor leagues o do that (Troy Tulowitzki is an example, drafted in 2005 debuted in 2007). Others, like Headley, are more typical with 3-4 years in the minors. Others, like PMac, take much longer either due to injury or position changes or struggles in the minors.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
Has Lopez gone yet?
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45 min break?
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Resume at 6:15 I think I heard.
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Padres should call up Headley right now.
Take the focus off their underwhelming draft choices today.
I definitely think we should call up Headley
but I think it’s interesting we’re going after a bunch of offensive guys. It should be interesting to see how the rest of these picks pan out. I wouldn’t necessarily call them underhwhelming, just not what we expected.
Unless, of course, you know oodles of info about each fo these guys :-p
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I don’t know oodles about anything. ~ Drake Swank
For those not in the know
Jaff Decker = pick for loss of Brocail
Logan Forsyth = pick for loss of Cameron
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
I think it's back.
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It is, btw.
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Keith Law
thinks Dykstra was an “oh shit” pick:
He’s a big, strong first baseman with a chance to hit for power. His approach is pull-oriented; I have to see him use the whole field to believe he’ll hit for average and to really profile offensively at first. He’s no better than average at first base and can’t play third. This was probably a Plan B pick because the player they wanted was Havens.
I'm also pretty sure
they wanted Havens, but I though Hewitt might be the backup plan.
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Makes a lot of sense
because I wanted Havens, too, and everyone knows the Padres and I think alike.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder
if they’ve fielded any phonecalls from Sosa or Bonds yet.
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Dodgers pick
Lindblom
lol
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Yay we are up again.
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James Darnell
R/R, 3B, Univ. South Carolina
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69th overall?
bow-chicka-bow-wow
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In chat at BaseballProspectus
Someone asked Kevin Goldstein who the top 3 hitters left in the 2nd round were and he said:
Only three hitters from my top 50 remain.Tyler Ladendorf: Juco SS w/ speed
Denis Raben: slugging LF from Miami who had poor junior year
James Darnell: S. Carolina 3B with juice in his bat, but loopy swing, probably a LF in the end
The other two were gone, so I guess we did well here.
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Also from BP's Kevin Goldstein
Tom Waits (Ducksnortville, The Intertubes): Is it wrong for me to be more excited about Darnell than the Padres first 3 picks?Probably—But I do like Darnell and thought he would go higher.
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mmmm
someone said sandwich pick
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Consistent
Seems like they were determined to get guys who could smash the ball regardless of where they play and they’ve been consistent. I really do like that.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions
If nothing else
At least it’s a philosophy.
Walter Sobchak: Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos
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Yeah
I think it goes back to the idea that their draft board may have looked significantly different than everyone else’s. I like that they came in with a simple idea and tried to execute it. We need hitters. Let’s draft hitters and worry about everything else later.
I’m good with that.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Into the 3rd round
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Chris Carpenter
taken by the Cubs
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Padres pick
Blake Tekotte
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Another guy who did well in the Cape Cod league
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
I was once tricked into watching the movie “Summer Catch”
I always laugh about the Cape Cod league now.
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Apparently
they want to make sure guys can hit with wood bats. He’s also a CF, which is really nice.
Yep
Sticking to the gameplan apparently.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
3rd round complete, comp round up.
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Our pick
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Sawyer Carroll
RF, Univ. Kentucky (Bat:L, Throw:R)
*cue LOST theme
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another big hitter
I’m starting to love this.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Not so loud!
They’re gonna start picking injured pitchers!
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comp round over
Round 4 begins
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Still thinking about it....
Man, did we miss out on drafting Freddie Prinze, Jr.
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Love the Chatham A's
Wasn’t one of the guys we got today a Chatham A?
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dykstra?
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I just noticed while typing that
Severe shortage of vowels in that name. Not a good sign, or is it?
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Okay I'm pissed
One of my favorite college players, Brandon Crawford, SS, UCLA just went to the Giants. Dammit Dammit Dammit.
I watched all 23 innings and all I got was this lousy signature.
We havent picked this round yet
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USD's Josh Romanski (LHP)
to the Brew Crew
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This coverage is horrible
What number are we on?
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM PDT reply actions
Cubs are up
Who knows what number lol
Guy is going fast, but it’s dull.
SOMEBODY THROW A PIE!
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OMFG
I know that kid… Matthew Cerda
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Anyway, that's local...
Oceanside High, to the Cubs.
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I just know we're after the Mets
We need to pay them back for screwing us all day.
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Wow am I delayed....
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The DraftTracker is much faster than the video
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn it's like a full pick delay
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Kipnis
The MLB scouting report is not kind to this guy:
He may not have enough speed and defensive ability to play center and he may not have enough bat to play a corner.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM PDT reply actions
lol
I see the words “fourth-outfielder type.”
*crosses fingers
“please don’t be the new PMac, please don’t be the new PMac”
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It's the fourth round
If there weren’t questions about the guy’s ability to do something-or-other he would have been drafted earlier.
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From BP's Bryan Smith
I don’t love what the Padres did earlier, but you have to give them some credit with James Darnell and now, Jason Kipnis from Arizona State. Kipnis is a draft-eligible sophomore so he won’t be the easiest sign, and his body isn’t one the scouts love. But the dude has speed, patience, and some power. You can do a lot worse in this round, trust me.
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I think that's gonna be a common reaction
That people won’t like the early picks but they’ll like the middle round picks. But if all of the picks are put in the context of finding hitters, the early picks aren’t that bad.
by Winfield's Ghost on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm putting zero stock into any of these decisions
They could all be brilliant, or terrible, I wouldn’t know.
If I remember seeing them four years from now, it will be a miracle anyway.
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Yeah, but
The last couple of years they got real excited about some of our picks, and those are still considered good drafts so far (with the exception of Schmidt’s unlucky arm issues). So it’s a little disappointing. I guess though, if you take the best available guys and you don’t absolutely need them at the major league level soon (like we do with Antonelli, Headley, Hunter, etc.) then we have some tradeable prospects if they start panning out, and that helps the major league club. So I’m starting to buy into this draft. I just really want a SS or CF that I can dream about playing in Petco.
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Rangers pick
Clark Murphy, OF, Fallbrook HS (5th round)
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Twins pick
Nicholas Romero, 3B, San Diego St. (5th round)
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Woooooo
San Diego State!
"Ladies and gentlemen, I suffer with you... I've never seen such stupid baseball playing in my life."
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jun 5, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Padres 5th round pick up
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Padres select...
Anthony Bass
RHP, Wayne St U
(5th round, 165 overall)
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