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Overflow Thread: 4/8, Padres vs. Giants Extra Innings!

Did anybody get nervous with Heath Bell?  Who was wishing he would retire?  Just me?

Let's do this Padres!  It's go time!

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damnit bot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Callix!

This thread needs some unicorns.

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:11 PM PDT reply actions  

That had to hurt.

Callix first MLB hit, baby!!! Congrats, dude.

by Drama on Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

That will work

Callix. Let him grab second?

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn right.

That's what he's here for.

by Drama on Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice wheels kid

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice rook.

The guy just got smoked by a liner and you don't want to at least watch one go by?? Really???

by Drama on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Last bathroom break

didn't work. I think we're over-selling it.

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

SO close

He's a bit nervous..............bring the claw!!!!!!!!!

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Overflow?

Do we really need overflows on the GLB 2.0???

The original thread wasn't freezing up on me at all as we neared 500....

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:15 PM PDT reply actions  

i think

it was freezing on me a bit.

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It takes forever to load for people that are just getting on

but all the other sites are doing it. I think 500 was the recommended number. What do I know?

by jbox on Apr 8, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

mine starts getting jolty

at about 300

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn claw

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

HOLY SHIT!!!

WHAT A FUCKING PLAY BY AID!!!!!!!!!!!

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Question:

Why does Jim Edmonds works *so hard* to make me hate him?

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Adriad!!!!!!!!!!!

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Er, I can't spell when excited.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a break

He never touched the bag... Kooz laid his left leg down and blocked the bag!!

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH YEAH!!!

ADRIAN FUCKING GONZALEZ!!

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Kouzmanoff

F*cking Gold Glover.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

So awesome.

So awesome.

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

He was out

Great call by the umpire.

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm all atwitter.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

give aid the gold glove man!!!!!!!!!!!

chula vista in the house!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

A little hop

To end an awesome AG inning.

by boha on Apr 8, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

TIME FOR SOME RUNS!!!!

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

Holy Shittake Mushrooms

by Pants on Apr 8, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm never getting any sleep tonight.

Danged nailbiters.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Love how Adrian

doesn't hesitate to make risky throws. He just lets them fly.

by jbox on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously.

It's so natural for him.

by Drama on Apr 8, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have the

mo-moentum now..... Huber comes up with something here

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I was terrified we were done

before that play.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

not to sound pessimistic

But so did I....

As soon as Winn hit that ball to the right side, I thought, Oh Great!! Now Bochy is gonna have the rookie put down a squeeze, and it's over.

What a great effin play by both Aid and Kooz!!

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh, do any of the bullpen guys

have a decent bat? Y'know, just in case. . . .

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm just guessing

But if we need a pinch hitter, it will probably be Maddux

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously Dex is posting for jbox right now.

Notice how he popped on right as Huber entered the game??

by Drama on Apr 8, 2008 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Come on guys

We need to end this game in this frame. Lets get some runs, boys!

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Briles!

4 hit night!

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

BRIAN!!!!!

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Giles

4 for 5. Retire you old man!

by Drama on Apr 8, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

love the old man!!!!!!!!

do it tad!!!!!!!!

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

"Rally dances" would be OK

But they wouldn't afford appropriate attention to the game.

by boha on Apr 8, 2008 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

True

that, and 13 singles wouldnt get you much more than what one Cialis would

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta love that product placement.

In extra innings, we get the same commericals OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

by boha on Apr 8, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seagulls

They should count the birds as part of the Giants' attendance count.

If they don't, they'll average what...8k a game?

by I8EtoDunbar on Apr 8, 2008 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Frustrating

Adrian will have to win this.

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Poor Brian

He only has run the 100m dash a couple times this AB only to end up right where he started.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

2 run shot!!

Come on Aid!!

It would be so perfect for you to end the game after you saved it in the bottom of the 10th.

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Still can't breathe.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Bottom 11

It's gotta be Cla for his second inning

by jpleeg2 on Apr 8, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Daamn the wind.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Shit

I thought he had that off the bat.

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

yes.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn.

Well, let's hold 'em.

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

i give this game 25 more mins

damn this central time (and tests at 10am) come on friars!!!!

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

wuss.

Try EST with a MD appt at 8.30 -- and I still need to take a shower before crashing.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn't it always a

bath at night or a shower in the morning?

by planetjeffy on Apr 8, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

the assclown has finally calmed down

asshole.

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

u know rowand wasn't going to win it

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

what?

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nevermind.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit

Fucking Bengie Molina. How is this possible

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Motherf*cker

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Bengie Molina is responsbile

for 5 of thier 7 runs in this series.

Unbelievable.

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I think I'm gonna be sick.

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"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Apr 8, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I want to die.

So *embarrassing*

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh well

At least we battled back. Again, stupid mistakes cost us this game. And again, our bullpen cost us the game.

by Phantom on Apr 8, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

"at least we battled back"

against the *Giants*?!?! the *f-ing Giants*?!?!

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

bengie fucking molina??????????

sorry "i made the worst cleanup hitter" comment.

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

g'nite

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm out too....

we go for the series win tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!! nite yall!

Mark Prior is: Nessie, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, a Yeti, a Unicorn and a Chupacabra that lives in Atlantis. You may hear of Mark Prior "close to making a start" but you will never see Mark Prior because he is the biggest Urban Legend on Earth.

by offspeedkills on Apr 8, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay. okay.

Even the worst team wins 60 games, right?

No . . . that's not helping.

Goodnight, all. I'll see you tomorrow when I can believe this was all a bad dream.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

for what?

there's nothing left to do by cry, brood, wallow, throw things, scream, sob hysterically, hide under my pillow, curl into the fetal position, take a hot shower to feel clean again, hide under my bed, cry out for my mommy, tear out my hear, burn a few effigies. . . .

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly! and you say 'for what?'....

How am I going to hang this effigy all by myself?

by goose1 on Apr 8, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait.....what?

I really don't understand what just happened.

According to Baseball Prospectus, what just happened is against the laws of time, space and physics as we know it.

by goose1 on Apr 8, 2008 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

you may be the queen of understatement.

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

this is true. However, for some reason I do not feel as bad as I normally do for losses. I think it was because of that amazing double play that Kooz and Gonzalez made. Im surprised I didnt go hoarse from that!

by padresgirlforlife44 on Apr 8, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

good girl.

the glass is half full. we remember only the good. this is but one game of one hundred and sixty two. the play was amazing.

positive affirmations. it's an art. . . .

Capri. Baseball will get me through the Bar.

by Demoira on Apr 8, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

i shattered my glass

now i can't tell if it's half full or empty. I am bleeding, though.

by goose1 on Apr 8, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

bleeding tears

shaped like little Cla Merediths.

too weird?

by goose1 on Apr 8, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to choose not to believe this

We create our own realities.

8-0 Padres! What a start! What a game!

by goose1 on Apr 8, 2008 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

At least

It was Trevor. However, Khalil is turning into a bust rather quickly. Thats the second game Wolf deserved to win. We keep getting lots of hits but not lots of runs. And I can't believe Jimmy Baseball "stole" a base. Wow.

...the man who isn't a pessimist is a damned fool.-Mark Twain

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 8, 2008 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

wasn't* Trevor

ahahahah

...the man who isn't a pessimist is a damned fool.-Mark Twain

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 8, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do..

According to MLB.com the Padres left 28 men on base tonight compared to San Francisco's 13. Good grief. What a fluke win by the Giants. Looking for a big bounceback tomorrow from Germano.

by Doc's Sports Picks Guru on Apr 9, 2008 1:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Such a frustrating loss

Those fans at the game last night were so excited for their second win, you would have sworn they had won the World Series. I on the other hand was fired up. How do we get 13 hits and two runs? We should have owned them. On a different note, we need Lincecum. That kid is on fire. We were watching the MPH board and everything was clocking in around the 97 range. Wish the Giants would run a fire sale so we could grab him and Cain.

by sacpadre on Apr 9, 2008 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL

Trust me, if the Giants have a fire sale, Lincecum and Cain are the only two players they won't part with. You can gladly have Dave Roberts back, though. Seriously. Take 'em. Won't even charge you. He's a gamer! He's got swagger! Shiny, shiny!

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue...

by UnleashTheGore on Apr 9, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Completely Disagree

The only guys that would return any value would be Lincecum and Cain. It's like the A's, they had to trade their two best players to rebuild because nobody wants Crosby, Chavez, Harden or Street. Sure they traded away Kotsay, but all they got back was a broken down amateur closer. Although, the Cubs were nice enough to give up a real pitching prospect for the remains of Jason Kendall.

If the Giants want to build for the future it would be wise to trade away Lincecum or Cain. The package similar to what the A's got for Haren would make the Giants way better off then if they kept both of them. The problem with the Giants is that they think their fans want to see the wily veterans and the promising young pitchers. But, I think the Giants just want a chance at winning in the near future.

And, I'm still waiting for Meredith or Bell to come in the seventh inning of April 4's game with the bases loaded, the scored tied and Thatcher struggling.

by Wonko on Apr 9, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with the Giants is that they think their fans want to see the wily veterans and the promising young pitchers. But, I think the Giants just want a chance at winning in the near future.

As a Giants fan *ducks* I'm going to have to say you're dead on with that assessment. It's unfortunate that management won't accept suckitude for a couple years by playing semi-prospects to see what they've got. Playing Aurilia/Roberts/Durham or playing Lewis/Velez/Ortmeir will both result in losing. However we can at least evaluate if the younger guys will be part of the future of this team.

You would be correct that Cain and Lincecum would be the only players that would return much value. The problem is that they are the only hope and future of this team, and the fan base that has put up with so much thus far would be completely rabid if they were traded away in a fire sale. Plus you have to consider that if by some stroke of luck the excellent position prospects they have around Single-A ball (Villanola, Noonan, Fairley, etc.) actually pan out and provide some offense for the major league club in say 3-4 years, I see very few if any teams that could compete with a playoff rotation of Lincecum/Cain/ throw-in third starter.

Anyway, that's just a Giants fan's $.02 on the state of the organization and why Lincecum and Cain cannot be traded.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue...

by UnleashTheGore on Apr 9, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

you'd think....

you'd kinda think that the giants would take a cue from across the bay and just throw a little more money at it if that makes any sense. really focus on identifying talent, but also use their money advantage to make big signings as needed. it seems like it should be straightforward, but what do i know.

by Dex on Apr 9, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait wait wait...

We did make big signings when needed!

Barry Zito!....oh wait, our only strength was pitching.

Aaron Rowand!....wait...we already had 5 mediocre CFs.

Damnit.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue...

by UnleashTheGore on Apr 9, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

One quibble

The only problem, and I hate to break this to you, is that there is no hope. So you're thoughts about Cain and Lincecum being the only hope is a little too optimistic.

Also, Lewis/Velez/Ortmeier aren't even semi prospects. Lewis is 27 years old, so he no longer has any upside. Velez is 26 and his game is based on speed, there's no real future there either (although he's probably the best of the bunch). Ortmeier is also 27 and doesn't really have enough power for a LF/1B. Rajai Davis is also 27. It's pretty ridiculous how old their young guys are. Basically the only argument for playing these guys would be if they had never signed Roberts/Winn/Rowand/Durham/Aurilia/Vizquel because then they could afford to bring in real talent without much loss between the cheaper guys and the expensive guys. At this point though it really doesn't matter. Maybe you get lucky and a guy has a career year and you can trade him to some dumb team, but it seems almost as likely that would come from an expensive guy as a cheap guy. It's really ugly, man.

And, I'm still waiting for Meredith or Bell to come in the seventh inning of April 4's game with the bases loaded, the scored tied and Thatcher struggling.

by Wonko on Apr 9, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

No hope?

Did you or did you not see Lincecum mow down your team last night? These guys are flamethrowers with pretty damned good 2nd and 3rd pitches. If that's not hope, I don't know what is. If you mean overall, as a team, though, I'd agree, they have little to no hope in the next few years. We can, however, look forward to 2 out of every 5 games during the year.

Lewis has no upside just because he's a few years older than the golden "prospect" age? Remember, he played football for most of his younger years, so he may not have hit his peak as a baseball prospect yet. And the little time he's had in the majors, he's shown some good things. I wouldn't be so dismissive of him. Future all-star? Absolutely not. Future decent OF? Possibly.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue...

by UnleashTheGore on Apr 9, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yes...

it definitely is "really ugly, man". Well put.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue...

by UnleashTheGore on Apr 9, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

As much as we'd like to wish for seeing Lincecum and/or Cain in SD, I can't see Sabean dumping them - that wouldn't just be a fire-sale; that would be a complete decimation of the organization and if he thinks SF fans are irritated now, I can't imagine the kind of long-term damage he'd do to the team and the fan base by getting rid of two young guys like that, regardless of the reasoning.

by Winfield's Ghost on Apr 9, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what they pay the PR guy for

I just don't see what keeping Cain and Lincecum does for you other than waste 5 years of their careers playing for losers. The Giants won't be ready to contend when they hit free agency and why on earth would they want to stay? Their value is highest now, it's time to trade at least one of them. You gotta treat the fans as adults and let them now that this is the best way to build a team that will be competitive faster.

As for the Padres getting Lincecum or Cain, I don't think we have the prospects to be in the ballpark. Maybe Antonelli, Headley and Latos would get us close, but there is no way we'd do that.

And, I'm still waiting for Meredith or Bell to come in the seventh inning of April 4's game with the bases loaded, the scored tied and Thatcher struggling.

by Wonko on Apr 9, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you assume they won't contend in 5 years?

I'll give you that the next few years look bleak, but their Single-A team has some very good prospects. Durham, Roberts, Aurilia, Winn, and Molina all come off the books in the next 3 years, just in time for these prospects to make their way to the Giants, as well as freeing up some money to add a couple key free agents (not that they've been great at doing this, granted, but it's theoretically possible). In 5 years they could be a much different-looking team and I think it's quite hard to write them off so soon.

Would I have guessed around 2002 that San Diego would dominate the division the way it generally has over the past few years? Not at all. You just can't guess what will happen in 5 years.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue...

by UnleashTheGore on Apr 9, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

The Padres were competitive in 2004 and would have been in 03 if not for injuries. I think it was obvious to most that they would be a good team in the coming years. Not a good comparison. In 5 years a couple of those single A guys will trickle up to the majors. Villalona, Sosa and probably one of their 2007 draft pick pitchers might be ready by then. That's really not enough to contend with Lincecum and Cain. The Rowand and Zito contracts will be big burdens by them. It's pretty unrealistic to think that an organization that doesn't have a farm produced major league regular hitter currently playing can produce a whole team of them in 5 years, let alone a contending team. Most teams are lucky to product 2-3 guys a year. The Giants are asking to basically develop 20 in the next 5 to be competitive. I know, I know there is free agency, but that usually doesn't play out well when you are cellar dweller.

And, I'm still waiting for Meredith or Bell to come in the seventh inning of April 4's game with the bases loaded, the score tied and Thatcher struggling.

by Wonko on Apr 10, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The GM is generally the PR guy

I hear what you're saying - I just think its unlikely that they'd ditch them. I think they'll hang on to them and see if they can get some of the younger guys in their system to come thru faster or grab some younger guys elsewhere on the cheap. With two arms like that, you always have hope and they give you an anchor to try and rebuild the team.

by Winfield's Ghost on Apr 9, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

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