Red Sox boycotting, sticking with coaches

by Dex on Mar 19, 2008 9:24 AM PDT in News

The Red Sox are boycotting spring training games and potentially the Japan trip. Obviously, the Red Sox need their coaches and trainers. How else are they gonna figure out which designer Asian performance enhancing drugs to buy? Who's going to be injecting their collective buttocks?

GO RED SOX! STAND TALL WITH YOUR ENABLERS!

Update [2008-3-19 13:38:53 by jbox]:
The dispute was settled. The Red Sox continue to get whatever they want, like the spoiled child of the MLB that they are.

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fricking Red Sox

I hate how they think they are bigger than the league, other players, and commitments they made.

I think Selig should banned them from the playoffs and take away their drafts and the players free agents rights.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra

by Sammy G on Mar 19, 2008 9:31 AM PDT reply actions

This is such crap

They all make wads of cash. They're really bitching about this?

Didn't the Dodgers do something like this for China? Didn't they get slammed in the national media? What a bunch of crap.

by Phantom on Mar 19, 2008 9:33 AM PDT reply actions

Trainers

Don't get paid nearly as much you think they do. They are firmly middle class white collar workers.

by Wonko on Mar 19, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions

Wow

Kinda surprised by the reaction here. I hate the Red Sox as much as anybody (what a stunner to see Schilling volunteer to speak to the media about this) but its ridiculous not to pay the coaches for the trip. As Stark pts out in the sidebar, its probably costing MLB more to fly Selig and his entourage over there than it would to pay the coaching staffs. Not like this is a quick trip to China, either - its almost two weeks. If the coaches are expected to participate in the games and the off the field clinics, there's no reason for them not to get the stipend.

by Winfield's Ghost on Mar 19, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions

I don't even think

the players should be getting a stipend. They should view this as an opportunity.

Look, I don't get paid anything extra when I go on a trip for work. Do these coaches get stipends when they're on the road? MLB should be treating this like any road game. If they are differing from that, then there's a problem. If not, then the coaches need to suck it up.

by Phantom on Mar 19, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions

I think that's a simplistic view

Any of us getting paid extra for our work trips just isn't the same thing as taking a MLB team to a different continent for games that count in the standings.

If I remember correctly, not only will they be playing two games, but the teams are doing a bunch of clinics and community work as well. Those are things they would not normally be doing in the run-up to the start of the season if they were staying at home.

I can agree with you about the players receiving a stipend - 40K seems like nothing more than a token - but if that was agreed upon as part of the trip - and based on what Stark said and what MLB is NOT saying, it seems that it was - its ridiculous for MLB to pull the money, particularly from guys who are on the wrong end of the food chain on a MLB team.

by Winfield's Ghost on Mar 19, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions

Perhaps

I do tend to get overly worked up whenever anyone in professional sports complains they don't get paid enough. I know it's not equivalent to compare their situations to my own, but it tends to be how I respond.

by Phantom on Mar 19, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions

The Walk Off Walk article...

...just put you in a foul mood, didn't it?:)

by Winfield's Ghost on Mar 19, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions

In all honesty

it certainly did. I can deal with honest criticism of my team, but that article was filled with so many inconsistencies and stereotypes that I just couldn't take it.

by Phantom on Mar 19, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions

Business Trips

When I went on trips for my old company they used to pay stipends for trips. They called in per diem. My salary was ample enough to cover expenses, but they still paid enough to cover meals, taxi rides/rental cars, and if the trip was over a week they gave some extra cash for leisure expenses.

I think the overall thing with the Red Sox is that they didn't have to go in the first place, but they voted to go based on some of MLB's promises and when the MLB reneged they voted to back out of the deal. Sounds pretty reasonable whatever the financial gains.

by Wonko on Mar 19, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions

some players...

Brooks got invited to play with the A's in Japan and the $40k is huge for him and his wife and kid since he doesn't have any big league time yet. What would've been infinitely more irritating than some trainers missing out on the cash would've been if he was forced to miss out on that because of the Red Sox. Luckily everything worked out, so I can go back to just hating the Red Sox at my normal levels of hatred.

by Dex on Mar 19, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions

shit,

I use to go to Japan all the time for work, I didn't expect to get a stipened, I expected to honor my committment and do my job.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra

by Sammy G on Mar 19, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions

you didn't get per diem?

No wonder they sent you all the time. They totally suckered you into going for nothing extra!

by Dex on Mar 19, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Yankee fans are dumb

Have you read the comments attached to the ESPN articles?

I am a HUGE Yankee fan and an equally HUGE Bloody Sawks hater...but I applaud the players for sticking up for the coaches and support staff.

t was a very admirable stand by the Red Sox players, that apparently has received positive results. As a Yankees fan I applaud the Red Sox for sticking up for their coaching staff.

NY and RS fans pretend they hate each other but secretly crush on each other.

by jbox on Mar 19, 2008 10:44 AM PDT reply actions

Ewww

Bill Belicheck is at the Florida San Diego State Basketball game.

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Mar 19, 2008 6:42 PM PDT reply actions

Surprise!

The BoSox are bitches: http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20080320-9999-1s20padnotes.html

And look, MLB WAS GOING TO PAY THE COACHES, just not as much as the players. This is just another case of the Red Sox using their media-darling status to get their way. Nobody heard about the A's boycott till today because nobody cares if the A's boycott. If the players were really that concerned, they could have split up their own bonuses to make up the difference. It's great the Lucchino said "the team" will do this, but I have a feeling that none of that money is coming from the spoiled ass players: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/specials/spring_training/2008/03/19/redsox.boycot t.ap/index.html

by Phantom on Mar 20, 2008 8:31 AM PDT reply actions